HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes BZA 06-26-00 BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
CITY OF CARMEL, CLAY TOWNSHIP
JUNE 26, 2000 40f.
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals met at 7:00 PM on June
26, 2000 in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana.
Members present were: Leo Dierckman; Michael Mohr; Earlene Plavchak; Pat Rice; and
Charles Weinkauf.
Laurence Lillig and Terry Jones were present representing the Department of Community
Services.
The minutes for the April meeting and the May meeting were approved as submitted.
H. Public Hearing:
lh. Old Town Apartments (V-48-00)
Petitioner seeks approval of a Developmental Standards Variance of Section
16.4,8: Minimum Ground Floor Area to allow units in a multiple -family
dwelling to e smaller than 800 square feet. The site is located at 751 North Range
Line Road. The site is zoned B-5/Business.
Filed by William E. Wendling, Jr. of Campbell Kyle Proffitt for PAR Enterprises.
NOTE: Item lh. was heard together with the following item:
Old Town Barber Shop (UV-61-99) (li. under Old Business)
Petitioner seeks approval of a Use Variance of Section 16.1:Permitted Uses in
order to establish a barber shop in an existing residential structure. The site is
located at 751 North Range Line Road. The site is zoned B-5Busines.
Filed by Pat Robinson of PAR Enterprises.
Todd Reutz of Campbell Kyle Proffitt appeared before the Board representing Pat
Robinson, applicant for the Old Town Apartments and the Barber Shop.
Mr. Reutz provided drawings of the apartment units. The two ground floor units consist
of 467 square feet; the two upstairs units consist of 422 square feet. The property has
been used for a four-plex dwelling unit for the last 13 years. Without the requested
variance, the property would have to be re-structured and the benefit to the property and
its residents would be lost if it could not continue being a four-plex dwelling. Mr. Reutz
commented that the apartments are well maintained and offer housing for individuals
who could not otherwise afford the cost of an 800 square foot unit in Carmel.
The Department has recommended a favorable consideration providing the apartments
are not further reduced in size or that the property not exceed four units. Mr. Robinson
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assured the Board that it was not his intention to ever decrease the size of the units or
ever increase the number of units on this site.
In regard to the Barber Shop,the location is a small, accessory building at 751 North
Rangeline Road and was previously used as a sign shop. It is believed that the barber
shop will be compatible with the purposes of the B-5 Business district. Within this area
on Rangeline Road,there are several businesses: insurance offices, photo studio,
restaurants, dental offices, an existing barber shop, and a flower shop. The applicant
feels that the proposed barber shop will be more aesthetically pleasing than the sign shop
previously operated from this site.
The property to the immediate north is zoned B-3, and the traffic generated by the barber
shop would be no greater than its previous use. There are two parking spaces between
the buildings, and various parking spaces in the existing parking lot. There will be no
additional parking spaces provided that will take up any existing green space on the
property. The proposed use will be equal to or greater than the previous use, and the new
remodeling and improvements will be more aesthetically attractive as well. There will be
windows added, overhead garage doors removed, stucco-type brick on the exterior, and
large windows in the front.
There is an existing barber shop south of the proposed facility on Rangeline Road. As
indicated, the proposed barber shop is believed to be in keeping with the zoning district.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to these two petitions;
no one appeared.
Laurence Lilllig reported that the Department is recommending that the petition for the
square footage on the apartment be approved with conditions that none of the existing
apartments will be further reduced in size; currently 467 square feet for the units
downstairs, 422 for the upstairs apartments. Further, conditioned on the total number of
apartments on site not to exceed that which currently exists (4).
In regard to the Barber Shop, the Department is recommending favorable consideration
of the petition.
Pat Rice questioned whether or not the use would continue with any and all subsequent
owners or if approval would apply only to this particular petitioner. Also, would the size
requirement be specified at 800 square feet with any subsequent owner?
Laurence Lillig responded that the use approval would be granted to the property itself
and not the owner.
Pat Rice then recommended that any approval be granted to the present owner only and
not to subsequent owners without coming into compliance with the Ordinance. Pat also
asked about the number of parking spaces required and the number of spaces available.
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Laurence Lillig reported that the site plan shows 11 parking spaces; multi-family use
requires 2 spaces per dwelling unit;therefore 8 spaces would be allocated for the multi-
family use and the barber shop would require 3 spaces, or one space for every 300 square
feet of floor area.
Mr. Reutz stated that the church parking lot is not being utilized for any parking spaces.
The spaces will be marked and lined.
Pat Robinson, 3277 Smokey Ridge Circle, Carmel, stated that the parking spaces were
designed in accordance with Carmel's requirements, 9 feet for the width of a car and 20
feet long, or 10 feet wide and 18 feet long. Subtracting the stairs, 7 or 8 feet, and the
cement or steel posts that protect the stairs, there is excess space available of 11 or 12
feet.
Leo Dierckman questioned the rationale for the Department report. Laurence Lillig
explained that the Use Variance is a pre-existing, non-conforming use that has been in
place for approximately 14 years. The Department's position is that so long as the use is
not intensified, there is no issue at hand. In terms of the barber shop in the B-5 district,
there are other businesses and residential uses, and a barber shop would not necessarily
be an appropriate use in the residential district.
In response to questions from Mr. Weinkauf, Pat Robinson stated that the barber shop
would consist of 3 chairs. Mr. Weinkauf commented that there should be a minimum of
9 parking spaces, one per chair and two waiting per chair. There is concern for adequate
parking spaces for the tenants first and the business second.
Laurence Lillig stated that the Ordinance requires 11 parking spaces, 8 for the
apartments, 3 for the business.
Mr. Robinson explained the parking. The number of cars waiting for the barber shop
would be readily visible and people would not park and go in but would return later. At
night, the spaces are utilized for the residents; during the day, the spaces will be utilized
for the barber shop business. The barber shop is never open after 5:00 PM, however,
they would be open on Saturdays. Mr. Robinson stated that there is also on-street
parking available.
Following up on a question asked by Pat Rice, Earlene Plavchak asked if approval would
be to the owner or with the land. John Molitor pointed out that there would probably be
some constitutional difficulties with making a variance or special use approval personal
to the particular owner because it would restrict the ability of the property to be sold.
Generally speaking, the courts do not like to see any restraints on the ability of real estate
to be bought and sold. There would be other ways to approach it, such as limitations on
further remodeling or a time frame specified to allow the property to be remodeled and
brought into compliance with the ordinance.
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Todd Reutz agreed with Mr. Molitor's comments and did not want to see a restriction on
Mr. Robertson's investment by placing limitations on him that would prevent him from
selling it as an investment piece of property if he should choose to do so.
Michael Mohr asked about the conditions in the Department's report; John Molitor
responded that the conditions are reasonable because they require no further investment
in the property.
Ms. Rice commented that she still had an issue with the safety factor and traffic coming
and going. Ms. Rice agreed with Mr. Molitor's comments that if the building were ever
remodeled, it would be brought into compliance with the ordinance at that time.
Mr. Reutz registered no objection. Mr. Robinson is not intending to remodel the building
in order to increase its size, the number of units, or diminish further the size of the units.
Ms. Rice was specific that the remodeling referred to interior work--not aluminum siding,
shingles, roofing, etc.
Mr. Weinkauf commented that it was bothersome to know that there are other apartment
units in the area that do not meet the 800 square foot minimum requirements in a single
family type building. It was still a concern how this particular apartment building
"slipped through the cracks."
Todd Reutz suggested that the Carmel zoning ordinance discriminates against persons
who work in Carmel but cannot afford 800 square foot homes. There must be some
housing for persons who work at McDonald's or other restaurants, who live and want to
work in the community. 800 square foot dwelling units are very expensive in Carmel.
The petitioner is asking for favorable consideration of any and all facets of his petition.
Mr. Weinkauf took exception to accusations of discrimination by the Board and
cautioned the petitioner. If the petitioner has a problem with the Ordinance as written, he
needs to appear before the body that has the power to change the Ordinance.
Earlene Plavchak suggested a time limit that Mr. Robinson could expect to recoup his
investment. The property either needs to come back before the Board for a review of the
Variance or come into compliance within 10 years. Putting a limit on remodeling is to
the detriment of the tenants.
Leo Dierckman moved for the approval of V-48-00,with the following conditions: 1)
none of the existing apartments shall be further reduced in size; 2) the total number
of apartments on site shall not exceed the current number (4); and 3) the petitioner
shall be required to return to the Board in 10 years so that the then owner of the
property will be required to seek a new variance.
Mr. Robinson then responded to the motion and questioned the rationale that he should
be required to come before the Board every 10 years to renew his "license" and no one
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else does. Or, does the Board intend to require everyone else up and down Main Street
and Rangeline Road to appear before the Board. Mr. Robinson asked for further
clarification, because he was aware of"hundreds" of owners of apartments in the area
that are not in compliance with the ordinance.
Michael Mohr responded to Mr. Robinson's comments; if this truly is the situation,
perhaps the Department should investigate and determine exactly who is not in
compliance with the ordinance. Perhaps those people should be brought in and each
instance addressed. From a time period standpoint, it probably should be a shorter period
of time.
Mr. Weinkauf commented that if what Mr. Robinson says is true about the many other
apartments that are not in compliance, perhaps it needs to be the responsibility of the
Department to find out how many exist and where they are. However, whatever decision
is made here is not precedent setting.
Leo Dierckman then amended his motion to allow for a 5 year time frame for the
petitioner to return to the Board rather than 10 years; the motion, as amended, was
seconded by Michael Mohr.
The petitioner stated a willingness to comply with the 5 year time frame to return to the
Board for a variance and agreed to submit such a statement in writing to the Board.
The public hearing was then closed.
The vote on Leo Dierckman's motion on V-48-00, with conditions specified, as
amended, was APPROVED 5 in favor, none opposed.
In light of the discussion that referred to other property owners in the area that are not in
compliance, John Molitor offered to draft a letter to the Task Force for the Old Towne
area requesting that they consider some provisions in drafting Ordinances to ensure that
all properties within the area are brought into conformance with the standards imposed on
this particular petition. The Board concurred.
Leo Dierckman moved for the approval of UV-61-99, Old Town Barber Shop. The
MOTION was DENIED, One in favor, (Michael Mohr) and 4 opposed (Leo Dierckman,
Earlene Plavchak, Pat Rice, Charles Weinkauf.)
2h-4h. Telamon Signage(V-49-00; V 50-00; V-51-00)
Petitioner seeks Developmental Standards Variances of Sections 25.7.02-8(b);
Number & Type to increase from zero signs to one; 25.7.02-8(d):Maximum
Height of Ground Sign to allow an increase in height from 6' to 10' and 25.7.01-
4(l) to allow an off-premise sign. The site is located at 1000 East 116th Street.
The site is zoned M-3/Manufactguring.
Filed by Larry Rodeman of the Telamon Corporation
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John Thomas of Land Design Services, 5665 Grandview Drive, Indianapolis, appeared
before the Board as consultant to Telamon. Larry Rodeman of the Telamon Corporation
was also in attendance.
A variance is being requested to allow a sign to be constructed on 116th Street; the design
and graphics of the sign were displayed on the overhead projector. Three variances are
being requested. 1)to allow the number of signs to be increased; 2)to allow the signage
to be increased in height from 6 feet to 10 feet; and 3)to allow signage on an off-site
location--the signage will be located on the west side of the entrance road to Telamon
Corporation.
The sign will be set within a landscaped pool area with a fountain on a mound that is set
17 feet back from the proposed 80 foot right-of-way for 116th Street. One of the
difficulties with the present location of Telamon is the 300 foot setback from 116th Street-
-no one knows their location.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to any or all of these
petitions; no one appeared.
Laurence Lillig reported that the Department is recommending favorable consideration of
each of the petitions.
Ms. Rice asked for further description of the sign. Mr. Thomas responded that the sign is
a sculptured metal, stainless steel cylinder and the red bars symbolize a "T" for Telamon.
The sign itself is a cylinder that is basically 30 inches in diameter and the bars flow. The
sign itself is not lit; however, there are two flood lights hidden in landscape rocks that
will shine on the name "Telamon" only.
Michael Mohr asked if the signage contained the company logo and color scheme or is
this merely for signage purposes only.
Larry Rodeman of Telamon Corporation, appeared before the Board and clarified the
signage. The Telamon corporate colors are blue and white, the colors in the sign are
decorative only. The bars across the top are indicative of wave links to coincide with
communications, the business of Telamon.
Leo Dierckman commented that the Plan Commission committee had looked at signage
for Telamon. The reality is that although the sign is different, it is very creative and the
total landscaping adds to the aesthetics. The signage is attractive and a work of art.
Charles Weinkauf asked where ground level is in relation to the sign. Mr. Thomas
responded that the 10 foot elevation is from the top of the sign, actually 6 feet tall, and
the berm the sign is setting on is approximately 4 feet above 116th Street.
The public hearings were then closed.
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Earlene Plavchak moved for the approval of V-49-00, APPROVED 5 in favor, none
opposed.
Leo Dierckman moved for the approval of V-50-00, APPROVED 5 in favor, none
opposed.
Leo Dierckman moved for the approval of V-51-00, APPROVED 5 in favor, none
opposed.
5h. Springwood, Lots 1 & 6 (V-52-00
Petitioner seeks a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 25.2.1 to increase
the height of a front yard fence from 3'6" to 6'6". The site is located at 414 & 415
Springwood Way. The site is zoned S-2/Residence.
Filed by James J. Nelson of Nelson&Frankenberger for SCM Development.
Jim Nelson, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, appeared before the Board representing the
applicant. Also present on behalf of SCM Development is Curt Albertson.
On March 21d, the Carmel Plan Commission unanimously approved a primary plat
application for a small residential community to be known as Springwood, located west
of and adjacent to Springmill Road, north of its intersection with West 126th Street.
Residents of the area appeared at the public hearing and spoke favorably on behalf of the
request. Also, the six planned lots have now all been reserved.
From its inception, Springwood was planned as a private enclave of large homes on
estate size lots. In keeping with the plan, the primary plat provides for the division of the
13 acres into 6 residential lots; the minimum lot size is 1.5 acres,the largest is 3 plus
acres in size.
Access to Springwood is from a single cut off of Springmill Road leading into
Springwood by way of a private, one lane drive which includes in the center substantial
landscaping and water features. An important component of the entrance that includes an
electronically controlled, wrought-iron gate, is a brick screen wall that runs parallel and
adjacent to Springmill Road. The front elevation of the screen wall is proposed to be 6
feet six inches high and composed of all brick material.
Screen walls of this particular type are common to residential communities in western
Clay Township such as Laurelwood, Winterwood, Windermere, and Walnut Creek
Woods, as well as several individual estates with screen wall treatments.
The screen wall assures privacy to the residents of Springwood and particularly those
residences who will build homes on lots 1 and 6, since these lots are nearest Springmill
Road. The screen wall also offers identification.
Section 25.2.1 of the Zoning Ordinance states that on residentially zoned lots less than
two acres in size, fences located within a required front yard shall not exceed 42 inches or
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3 feet 6 inches in height. The screen wall is located on lots 1 and 6. Under a strict
application of the zoning ordinance, lots 1 and 6 both enjoy road frontage on both the
private drive serving the development as well as Springmill Road. They are viewed as
corner lots having two front yards: one on the entry drive, and one on Springmill Road.
Last week, the Plan Commission approved a variance from the Subdivision Control
Ordinance that would permit the homes on lot 1 and lot 6, as always intended, to front the
entrance drive.
The petitioner is requesting approval at this time.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to this petition; no
one appeared.
Laurence Lillig reported that the height of the screen wall is contrary to the Subdivision
Control Ordinance and the Department recommends negative consideration. Four years
ago,the Department was directed to create an ordinance that would essentially eliminate
large fences and screen walls on major thoroughfares in Cannel and Clay Township,
known as the Frontage Place Ordinance, No. Z-318. With that particular ordinance in
mind, the Department is of the opinion that this is contrary to the purpose of the
ordinance and recommends negative consideration.
Pat Rice commented that it is the Board's job to make exceptions wherever appropriate,
and since this is a side yard rather than frontage, would it not fit within an exception?
Laurence Lillig responded that the Frontage Place Ordinance set up a situation wherein
houses on corner lots would front on a thoroughfare of greater functional classification
and then have access off the side road (in this case, the private street.) In order to begin a
process of halting the progress of large screen walls through Carmel's and Clay
Township's major thoroughfares. As an alternative, the option was left open to place a 50
foot landscape buffer between the right-of-way of the major thoroughfare and the first
residential lot. The petitioner in this case elected to apply for a subdivision waiver rather
than install a 50 foot landscape buffer in between the first lot and the right-of-way. The
Plan Commission granted the subdivision waiver. As an alternative, the screen walls
could be placed to the back of the 50 foot landscape buffer, maintaining a greenway
along the major thoroughfares. The Department feels that the proposal is contrary to the
ordinance.
Leo Dierckman moved for the approval of V-52-00, Springwood, Lots 1 & 6.
APPROVED 5 in favor, none opposed.
6h-8h. East 96u` Street Auto Park, Lots 1, 2, & 3 (SU-53-00; SU 54-00; SU-55-00)
Petitioner seeks Special Use approval for an automobile dealership on each of
three lots. The site is located northwest of East 96th Street and Gray Road. The
site is zoned B-3/Business.
Filed by Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson&Frankenberger for DYC Realty.
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Charles Frankenberger of Nelson &Frankenberger appeared before the Board
representing DYC Realty, Tom O'Brien, and Tom Wood in connection with their request
for Special Uses to permit automobile sales and service on a parcel of real estate located
on the north side of the East 96th Street commercial corridor. Among those also present
were Al Young, Tom O'Brien, and Larry Hyde on behalf of Tom Wood.
Approval is being requested for Special Uses; the petitioner will return to the Board in
July for Sign Variances. The petitioner will also be appearing before the Plan
Commission in July for plat approval.
The subject real estate is bordered on the south by 96th Street, on the east by Gray Road,
and farther west, by Keystone Avenue. DYC Realty is the owner of the west parcel, a
floodway in between, and the east parcel and consists of approximately 40 acres. The
entire parcel is being platted; however, the request for Special Use is only for the eastern
parcel.
Other uses in the vicinity include mining operations, Williamson Run residential
community, Palmer Dodge, H.H.Gregg headquarters, office uses in the Precedent Office
Park, and other car dealerships located on the north and south sides of 96th Street,
including Tom Wood, World Wide Motors, and Dan Young.
The real estate along 96th Street is zoned B-3/Business district. The permitted uses in this
area are special uses requiring Board of Zoning Appeals approval. The Special Use
approval being requested this evening is for automobile sales and service and is among
the permitted special uses in the B-3 district.
The site is divided into three lots, in the center of which is an access road. Lot 1 will be
occupied by Tom Wood Lexus; Lot 2 will be occupied by Tom O'Brien; and the back
parcel will remain titled in the name of DYC Realty. After obtaining Special Use
Approvals, Tom O'Brien and Tom Wood will commence construction of their
dealerships. Unlike Tom Wood and Tom O'Brien, DYC Realty does not intend to
immediately improve its site for automobile sales and service. DYC Realty at this time is
requesting Use Approval only and will return to the Board for building and site approval.
The plans for the building for the back parcel are not yet known.
In an effort to build cooperation and consensus, the Williamson Run Homeowners
Association and the petitioner have arrived at certain commitments. As a result of the
commitments, the Williamson Run Homeowners Association supports the proposed
Special Use.
One of the commitments pertains to the western parcel, west of Carmel Creek(not a part
of this request for Special Use.) The owner of this parcel has committed to use
restrictions prohibiting retail on the western parcel but permitting general forms of office
use. There are also commitments regarding substantial landscaping and mounding. The
owner has committed to a 50 foot greenbelt area where the real estate abuts Williamson
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Run common area. Within the 50 foot greenbelt will be mounding between 4 feet and 6
feet in height. Three, 25 feet, long live Pine Trees will be installed in this greenbelt area.
Commitments regarding the eastern parcel, east of Carmel Creek and the subject of this
request, have also been made. The landscaping plan shown features two changes not
shown in the informational brochure. First,the floodway delineation plans approved by
DNR permitted a 15 foot tree preservation area along the northern boundary of the
floodway, and immediately below it to the south a 15 foot transition yard. Secondly, the
Williamson Run Homeowners Association agreed that mounding on the east side of
Carmel Creek provided little in terms of screening. More effective screening would be
provided in the form of additional landscaping along the diagonal.
Other commitments pertaining to the eastern parcel east of Carmel Creek include the
commitment that there will never be any parking, asphalt, or lighting within the greenway
area. Additionally, there are commitments that place restrictions on lighting, noise, and
hours of operation. Through the commitments and through working together with the
Williamson Run Homeowners Association and the applicants, there is established
consensus.
The lighting plan and sample fixtures are included in the informational brochures and are
designed to minimize spillover and intensity of lighting at the boundary lines. The
lighting plan has also been reviewed by the Williamson Run Homeowners Association.
Mr. Frankenberger discussed the elevation of the buildings. The front of the Tom
Wood/Lexus building will be a dryvit material and glass; the sides will be painted,
concrete masonry. The east and west elevations of the Tom O'Brien building are
identical. Again, the front of the building will be dryvit and glass, and sides will be
concrete block and metal panels.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of these petitions. The following
appeared:
Michael Keller, 3710 Bauer Drive, Williamson Run Subdivision, appeared before the
Board as a member of the Board of Directors of Williamson Run Homeowners
Association. The Williamson Run Homeowners has worked with the applicants and have
met with them on numerous occasions. Negotiations were conducted and an Agreement
has been made between the applicant and the Homeowners Association.
Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to these petitions. No one
appeared.
Laurence Lillig reported that the Primary Plat for this subdivision was on the Technical
Advisory Committee Agenda last Wednesday. The Department is recommending
favorable consideration of the special Use petitions conditioned upon the satisfactory
resolution of any outstanding TAC concerns and upon Plan Commission's approval of the
Primary Plat.
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• Pat Rice commented that in terms of appearance of the buildings on the north side of 96th
Street, the buildings have a fairly "corporate" look. Are the proposed buildings to have a
similar look or will they look like an automobile dealership, each one different, with the
building itself becoming a logo.
Charles Frankenberger responded that the front of each building faces south. The
buildings are dryvit material with glass around the showroom.
Laurence Lillig clarified that the only reason this petition will be heard at the Plan
Commission level is for Primary Plat approval. There will be no other opportunity to
necessarily review the site plans or architecture at that time--it is simply a platting issue
at that point.
Pat Rice felt that the Board should be able to actually see what they are approving and
certainly the building materials used on the buildings are important. There are different
sizes and blocks that can be used--some of it does look like brick--and given the rest of
the corridor, the Board would like to see what it will look like.
Charlie Frankenberger stated that according to the architect,the exterior building
materials on the south elevation would be dryvit and glass; however, samples of the
materials are not available this evening. The renderings are how the buildings will
appear from 96th Street. The buildings would be built consistently with what is shown on
the renderings. Charlie Frankenberger voiced his understanding that there are no
architectural standards in the B-3 district.
For further clarification, Laurence Lillig confirmed that B-3 zoning does not require
ADLS review or Development Plan approval.
Pat Rice's position was that either the Board of Zoning Appeals or the Plan Commission
has the responsibility for the type of buildings that will be agreed to.
Charles Weinkauf commented that the dealerships in question are both of very high
quality--the current Tom Wood/Lexus dealership is one of the finer looking automobile
dealerships. It is inconceivable that they would be doing something of lesser quality with
a new facility. Mr. Weinkauf did not feel it was the Board's responsibility to review the
actual building materials.
Randy Remenschneider, architect, appeared before the Board to clarify the building
materials. Dryvit is the brand name of a product and describes a particular
manufacturers' product, essentially a stucco-type material, synthetic, and includes cement
in it. It does have a stucco-like appearance and is used in residences and a lot of
commercial buildings. Dryvit is a building material very much in use today and does
have a pleasant appearance.
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Leo Dierckman asked if the petitioner were willing to allow the site plan and the building
design to go before Plan Commission review process as a part of the plat. The site plan
and building motif, etc. could be reviewed by the Plan Commission.
Mr. Molitor was in agreement with the provision and no objection was made by the
petitioner.
Leo Dierckman asked if the HOA Board of Williamson Run had voted on the petitions
and whether or not the actual homeowners had seen the proposed buildings. Mr. Keller
responded that due to the regulations of the Board of Williamson Run, it is the Board's
consensus to approve it and is not a general vote from the homeowners. However, this
was presented at the annual Homeowners Association meeting, and the plan was
welcomed with approval. (Approximately 35/40 persons attended the homeowners
meeting out of 172 homeowners.)
Leo also asked if approval could be held up for the third parcel that has nothing proposed
thus far or are all three parcels required to be approved at one time?
Laurence Lillig explained that the reason parcel three is before the Board at this time is
because the access drive for all three parcels is contained entirely on lot three. The Board
would essentially be giving the petitioner approval to go ahead with that phase. Once it
was established what would be going in on that parcel, the petitioner would return for a
Special Use Amendment.
The public hearing was then closed.
Leo Dierckman moved for approval of SU-53-00. APPROVED five in favor, none
opposed.
Leo Dierckman moved for the approval of SU-54-00. APPROVED five in favor, none
opposed.
Michael Mohr moved for the approval of SU-55-00. APPROVED five in favor, none
opposed.
Special Note: Approval is subject to the Plan Commission review process, as previously
stated.
9h. Brooks Landing at Prairie View, Section 1,Lot 3 (V-56-00)
Petitioner seeks a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 5.4.2 to decrease
the front yard setback from 40 feet to 15 feet. The site is located at 6905 Longest
Drive. The site is zoned S-1/Residence.
Filed by Jose Kreutz of BDC/Cardinal Investments, LLC.
Jose Kreutz, Vice President of Operations for Brenwick Development Company, 12722
Hamilton Crossing Boulevard, Carmel, appeared before the Board on behalf of the
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applicant. Approval is being requested for a Developmental Standards Variance to allow
a decrease in the front yard setback on Lot 3, Section of Brooks Landing, a portion of the
Prairie View project.
Lot 3 lies specifically at the termination point of Longest Drive, an extension of 131'
Street, east of the round-a-bout at River Road. The request is to reduce the front yard
setback on one of the two sides of lot 3, a corner lot, and required by Ordinance to meet
requirements on both streets fronting the lot.
Admittedly, this situation is a self-inflicted wound through a series of mistakes on
Brenwick's part. At this time, the petitioner is requesting that the 40 foot setback on the
north side of the lot be reduced to 15 feet for three reasons. The lot lies at the end of a
public street. Longest Drive terminates and become an extension of the driveway into the
golf course along White River. The lot is surrounded by asphalt on three sides, and is
partially wooded. The purpose of reducing the front yard setback on one side would be
to rotate the house at such an angle that it would provide the termination point to the
road.
A reduction in the front yard setback would not endanger the health and welfare of the
owner of the lot--the intended owner would like to erect a fence along the private drive
that borders lot 3 to the north. Denying the petition would result in the home being
setback farther and therefore reduce the number of trees remaining on the lot at the
completion of construction of the home.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the petition; no one appeared.
Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the petition; the following
appeared:
Harry Boyce, 6899 Longest Drive, adjacent to lot 3, appeared before the Board and
voiced a strong objection to altering the setbacks for several reasons. Mr. Boyce was not
in favor of adjusting a setback site in order to accommodate a building property. This
particular lot is probably the worst lot in Brooks Landing, the most expensive subdivision
in Prairie View, to be that close to the street. The road bends to enter the golf course and
having a portion of the building within 10 to 15 feet of the street compromises the
aesthetic appearance of that section of the subdivision as well as have some potential
financial ramifications in terms of the desirability of adjoining properties. Also, due to
the traffic in this particular location at the severe bend in the road, a building close to the
street would impose a real hazard.
Rebuttal: Jose Kreutz referred to the drawing. The intent is to construct a home as
closely to the footprint of lot 2 as possible. The intended owner of the home is proposing
to build a structure of the same caliber as the neighboring homes, but it is difficult to do
so with the current, front setbacks and easement on one side. As to the traffic issue, the
intended homeowner would like to install a continuing iron fence at the termination of the
curb on Longest Drive.
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Mr. Boyce was given an opportunity to answer which was more important to him,
preserving the trees on the building site or the positioning of the home. Mr. Boyce
responded that protection of the trees would be given a slight priority, but he would really
like to see a design that could accommodate saving as many trees as possible and
complying with the setbacks. It would be a fairly unique design, but errors in planning
are not justification to compromise.
Charles Weinkauf asked the petitioner to return to the Board with various options for
further consideration, and the home super-imposed on the site. The petitioner was asked
to consider tabling to the July meeting. The petitioner is willing to comply.
Brooks Landing at Prairie View, section 1, Lot 3 (V-56-00)was TABLED to the July
meeting.
Clarification from the Department: As originally platted under the Cluster Ordinance, a
reduction in the front yard setback was allowed from 40 feet to 30 feet. The variance is
actually for a 40 foot front yard. The petition, as read, is correct.
l0h. Faith Apostolic Church Expansion (SUA-57-00)
Petitioner seeks approval of a Special Use Amendment in order to expand the
existing church from 6334 square feet to 15,554 square feet on 4.22 acres. The
site is located at 1212 East 116th Street. The site is zoned R-1/Residence.
Filed by Pastor Matthew D. Ball of Apostolic Faith Church.
Matthew Ball, pastor of Faith Apostolic Church, 1212 East 116th Street, Carmel,
appeared before the Board on behalf of the applicant. The ministry of the Church has
been expanding consistently and the physical facilities need expansion as well. The
proposed addition will be termed the "Family Activity Center" and will provide more
classroom space, recreational areas, kitchen facilities, and additional office space.
All adjacent landowners have been notified by certified mail and informational packets
have been submitted to the Board. Mr. Ball stated that the expansion will not adversely
affect the adjoining neighbors. It is over 135 feet to the nearest residence and separated
from all adjacent property owners by dense trees and other vegetation.
The proposed addition will complement and blend in with the existing facility, with
matching decor, brick, and landscaping. As can be seen, it is an attractive building and
an enhancement to the area.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition. No
one appeared.
Laurence Lillig reported that this particular petition was reviewed by Technical Advisory
Committee on June 21st. The Department is recommending favorable consideration,
conditioned upon satisfactory resolution of any outstanding TAC concerns.
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Earlene Plavchak moved for the approval of SUA-57-00. APPROVED (subject to TAC
concerns) 5 in favor, none opposed.
11h. Asherwood Golf Course Expansion (SUA-58-00)
Petitioner seeks approval of a Special Use Amendment in order to expand the
existing Asherwood golf course onto adjoining property. The site is located at
9950 Ditch Road. The site is zoned S-1/Residence.
Filed by James J. Nelson of Nelson&Frankenberger for M&B Associates.
Jim Nelson, attorney, 3663 Brumley Way, Carmel, appeared before the Board
representing Melvin and Brenda Simon. Also present was Aaron Cohen, consultant to
the Simons, and Nola Albrecht, landscape architect with Schneider Engineering.
In February, 2000, the Board of Zoning Appeals granted to the Simons a Special Use
Amendment approval. The approval provided for the expansion of the private
Asherwood Golf Course onto the 9 acre parcel of real estate south of and adjacent to
Asherwood, west of and adjacent to Ditch Road, and immediately south of greens No. 1
and 10.
The approved plans provided for the construction of a single entrance, golf chalet, and 8
golf greens providing for an 18 hole short, or executive style, course. At that time, the
application was supported by the nearest residents of Deerfield, with conditions specified
in a letter agreed to by the petitioner.
The letter with conditions specified is being re-introduced at this time for the purpose of
re-affirming as to the additional real estate, the commitments made with the adjacent
neighbors.
As a part of the February approval, the petitioner agreed to dedicate to the County
Highway Department additional right-of-way adjacent to the Lundeen real estate. This
dedication has been completed and a deed presented to the County Commissioners for
acceptance.
This evening's Amendment application involves the parcel of real estate immediately
south of the Lundeen parcel commonly referred to as the Grossman parcel and is 7 acres
in size, located at 9900 Ditch Road. The request is to combine the Lundeen and
Grossman parcels and provide for a re-design of the executive course previously
approved. The executive golf course will be enlarged from 9 to 16 acres.
The perimeter treatment to the west and south consists of a series of heavily landscaped,
undulating mounds and also includes a wrought-iron fence not to exceed 5 feet in height.
The change from the first proposal has been the addition of four greens, and additional
real estate that has provided greater separation between the playing areas.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one
appeared.
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Laurence Lillig reported that the Department is recommending favorable consideration of •
this petition, conditioned upon satisfactory resolution of any outstanding Technical
Advisory Committee concerns.
The public hearing was then closed.
Michael Mohr moved to Approve Docket No. SUA-58-00,Asherwood Golf Course
Expansion, conditioned upon all Technical Advisory concerns being resolved.
APPROVED 5 in favor, none opposed.
12h. Lattice Communications (SE-59-00)
Petitioner seeks Special Exception approval to establish a 120 foot cellular tower
on 0.052 acre. The site is located southwest of West 13151 Street and Spring Mill
Road. The site is zoned S-1/Residence.
Filed by Douglas B. Floyd for Lattice Communications, LLC.
Note: The Board previously set some guidelines for cellular towers; it is possible that
those pre-requisites have not been incorporated into the Board's formal Rules of
Procedure.
Douglas B. Floyd, attorney, appeared before the Board representing the applicant. Also
in attendance: James Parten, Director of Site Development for Lattice Communications;
Sam Johnston, Vice President of Lattice Communications; Ty Stoffer, Radio Frequency
Engineer for Sprint, PCS; Eric Parker, Site Acquisition for Lattice Communications; and
Shane Delahan with GPD Engineers.
Lattice Communications is a national company with regional offices in Fort Wayne,
Indiana and Cincinnati, Ohio. Lattice is in the business of identifying sites for wireless
carriers, entering into lease or purchase agreements with owners of real estate in the area
where wireless providers need facilities, and building facilities available to multiple
wireless carriers in order to accomplish co-location. In short,Lattice is in the business of
leasing space on the towers to multiple providers.
Mr. Floyd submitted two letters from ????
It is hopeful that the Board will agree that the use of a power sub-station site is a logical
and reasonable place in a residential area to enhance the service for users of wireless
communication devices.
All 25 criteria specified in the Ordinance have been looked at and considered carefully by
the petitioner. Area neighbors who might have a concern regarding their property values
understand that the communications pole is necessary for the greater good of the
community, notwithstanding that it may be something a neighbor may not want to look
at. It is hopeful that the Board will find that location on a power sub-site is the most
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appropriate place to provide the community as a whole with what it needs in the way of
benefits from wireless communications.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the petition; the following
appeared:
Alexa Albrecht, 1604 Old Mill Circle, Carmel, spoke in support of the petition.
According to Ms. Albrecht, the wireless telephone service in the entire area along
Springmill is extremely poor and from an emergency contact perspective, 911 cannot be
dialed from this location. The option being provided by Lattice is felt to be palatable, and
Ms. Albrecht feels it is a good solution.
Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the petition; the following
appeared:
Fred Clayton, 13042 South Hampton Court, Springmill Ridge, south of the proposed
tower and current sub-station, spoke in opposition to the petition. Mr. Clayton stated that
there is ample area along the Meridian Street/Highway 3 corridor where there is good
coverage for service. A major concern is how the petitioner acquired the property and the
rights. If PSI has used eminent domain to acquire the existing property and it has, in turn,
been sub-leased to a third party--it is wrong. Also, the property has streams on the east
side and west side, with 131 st Street on the north side. If PSI decides to expand the size
of the sub-station, they would come south onto Mr. Clayton's property and he is opposed
to that. There are better places for the location of the tower. Mr. Clayton did not approve
of how the property has been changing hands, and wanted to go on record as saying that
it is pretty under-handed the way it has been handled. Mr. Clayton urged the Board not
to approve the petition.
Rebuttal: Doug Floyd reported that a copy the Deed recorded in the Hamilton County
Recorder's Office in Book 354, page 156 was made available and should answer Mr.
Clayton's questions about the method of acquisition of the real estate. As a result of the
judgment and condemnation, it is not a deed but a grant of title to 1.32 acres from
Merchants National Bank and Trust Company to Public Service Indiana; the deed is
dated January 10, 1986.
In regard to availability of sites on U.S. 31 referred to by Mr. Clayton: It would be at
least one-half mile to one mile away and would mean that taller towers would need to be
erected to have any coverage at this site. Any questions along this vein need to be
directed to the Radio Frequency Engineer. The search area to provide the appropriate
coverage by only going on 120 feet, reduces the area in western Clay Township that can
be available not more than three quarters of one mile from the site being proposed.
Laurence Lillig gave the Department's recommendation. The area map shows the
landscaping immediately adjacent to the fence around the sub-station. Looking at the two
landscape plans in the informational booklets, it is noteworthy that no landscaping is
shown on the west property line. There is a substantial amount of landscaping on the
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adjoining property to the west. It is the Department's position that the petitioner should
be providing some landscaping for screening and not relying on landscaping on the
adjoining property to achieve the end result.
The Department is recommending favorable consideration of the petition, conditioned
upon the following: 1) The architectural design, landscaping, and signage of the
accessory structure is acceptable to the Board; 2)The architectural design of any future
accessory structures for permissible, co-located antennae be of equal or greater
architectural quality than that approved under this petitioner; and 3) The determination of
compliance with condition No. 2 shall be delegated to the Director and subject to appeal
to the Board.
Leo Dierckman asked about the height of the tower and the extent of the coverage.
Ty Slofer, Radio Frequency Engineer, with Sprint PCS, responded that typically, there
are 200 to 250 foot towers in a rural area. The more populated areas have towers that are
shorter, because the density increases. On a rural site, the company and its equipment is
about a 7 mile radius. During the summer, coverage will go down due to foilage of the
trees.
Mr. Weinkauf clarified that the proposed tower is 120 feet with the possibility of up to 6
co-locators. The Ordinance requires a minimum of four users; the initial user and 3 co-
locators.
Doug Floyd stated that Sprint is going on the tower at the 100 foot mark, leaving 20 feet
of space above their antennae for other users.
Jim Parten, 1709 West State Boulevard, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Director of Site
Development for Lattice, addressed the Board. In this particular area,the need for height
is not as great for penetration into residential areas. The petitioner is looking at carriers at
120 feet, 110 feet, 100 feet, 90 feet, and 80 feet--5 carriers.
Doug Floyd stated a willingness to meet with Mr. Weinkauf, John Molitor and Steve
Engelking, and will TABLE in the interim.
John Molitor referred to provisions in the Ordinance that require an application for a
permit to erect a tower must include a report from a qualified professional engineer that
a) describes the tower height and design, including a cross section and elevation; b)
documents the height above grade for all potential mounting positions for co-location of
equipment and the minimum, recommended separation distances between antennae; c)
describes the tower's capacity, including the number and types of antennae that it can
accommodate; d) states that the applicant will operate the tower and attached antennae in
compliance with applicable law; and e) documents that the applicant has before filing the
application, investigated the possibility of co-location with the owners of all other towers
in the vicinity and any other information that may be requested by the Director.
Charles Weinkauf stated that the licensees were not complying with the Board's request.
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Pat Rice asked about a map that located towers in the community.
Eric Parker with Sprint PCS, Rosemont, Illinois stated that this sub-station had been pin-
pointed on the map.
Doug Floyd commented that the most recent meeting with the DOCS staff narrowed the
map to existing Sprint locations and what the new site would do. There are no other
towers that could cover this area. If there are materials missing or requirements that have
not been met, the petitioner was willing to return to the Board next month, thereby
allowing them 30 days to address missing information.
Docket No. SE-59-00 was TABLED until the July meeting to allow the petitioner an
opportunity to meet with the Department of Community Services to address any items
outstanding.
13h. Carmel Pro Printers Parking(V-60-00)
Petitioner seeks a Developmental Standards Variance of Section 27.5: Amount of
Parking Spaces Required in order to reduce the number of spaces mandated by
the addition of new storage space. The site is located at 303 West Carmel Drive.
The site is zoned I-1/Industrial.
Filed by Joe Stilwell of Wathen Remodeling &Design for Carmel Pro Printers.
Dyon Luisee, 17926 Amberwood Court, Westfield appeared before the Board
representing the applicant. Approval is being requested for a variance to allow a
reduction in the number of parking spaces due to the addition of an upstairs for storage
and floor space.
In response to questions from Mr. Weinkauf, Laurence Lillig reported that the footprint
of the building remains the same; the petitioner is building up, not out.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the proposed
reduction in number of parking spaces; no one appeared.
It is the Department's understanding that the additional space will not entail an increase in
the number of employees or traffic on this site. The Department is recommending
favorable consideration of this petition.
The public hearing was then closed.
Earlene Plavchak moved for the approval of Carmel Pro Printers Parking V-60-00.
APPROVED 5 in favor, none opposed.
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14h. Merchants' Square—Petco Signage (V-61-00)
Petitioner seeks a Developmental Standards Variance for additional signage for
Petco. The site is located at 2208 East 116t Street within the Merchants' Square
Shopping Center. The site is zoned B-8Business.
Filed by Gordon Byers for Petco.
Gordon Byers, attorney at law, Noblesville, appeared before the Board representing the
applicant. Approval is being requested for a Developmental Standards Variance for
additional signage at the Petco facility. There are two variances being requested; the
grooming sign on the façade of the building, and the signage facing Keystone.
At present, Petco has been approved for signage on the west façade, although the signage
is not yet in place, and on the north façade. Any variance would be conditioned upon the
removal of the signage on the west façade. There is also signage on the pylon on
Keystone Avenue.
The Petco sign is in place and the grooming sign is being requested. The grooming sign
is 15 inches high, 9 feet long, over the entrance on the north façade, next to the existing
sign. Within Petco, some facilities have a separate grooming operation and separate
entrance, some do not. The Ordinance allows signage to go in the window as long as it
does not exceed 30% of the window space, but this avenue was not pursued.
After consulting with the Department, the most appropriate course of action was felt to be
a variance. The basic reasons being: separate entrance; different hours; different
function; and the signage will identify to customers and the general public the two
different operations. The petitioner is requesting a Petco sign to be put on the façade of
Keystone Avenue--it is in close proximity to Hobby Lobby.
The purpose of the signage is to direct to Keystone. The signage has been approved by
Binmar LLC, (The Linder Company) designer of the signage wall, but it is not allowed
by the Ordinance. If the Board sees fit to grant approval of the sign facing Keystone, the
petitioner will withdraw and remove the sign on the west facade, AAA Way.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to this petition; no
one appeared.
Laurence Lillig reported that the Department is recommending negative consideration of
this petition.
Pat Rice asked for clarification of the sign facing Keystone--the back side of the Hobby
Lobby signage wall is very offensive and looks like a Hollywood backlot. Ms. Rice was
not inclined to add to the signage.
Laurence Lillig responded that it was the Department's understanding that the Hobby
Lobby sign was to be the only signage placed on the wall. If the grooming sign is
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approved by the Board of Zoning Appeals, the petitioner will forego signage on the west
façade; the grooming sign wouldn't necessarily require a variance.
Pat Rice moved for the approval of Petco Signage (V-61-00) "grooming" signage B on
the north façade only. APPROVED three in favor, Pat Rice opposed, no one abstaining.
I. Old Business
Emerald Crest at Hazel Dell Summit Amenity Area (SU-13-00)
TABLED
3i. Kingsborough remainder(V-17-00)
Petitioner seeks approval of a Developmental Standards Variance of Section
5.4.6:Minimum Lot Width in order to reduce the permissible width from 120 feet
to 100 feet on 0.869 acres. The site is located at West 14151 Street. The site is
zoned S-1/Residence.
Filed by John B. Urbahns of Kingsborough LLC.
Jeff Reasner, with John B. Urbahns, 3905 Vincennes Road, Indianapolis, appeared
before the Board representing the applicant. This item was tabled at the previous Board
of Zoning Appeals meeting in May.
The petitioner is requesting a variance of developmental standards in order to construct a
single family home on a 100 foot frontage lot rather than the required 120 foot frontage
lot as required. The parcel fronts on 141st Street.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor of the petition; no one appeared.
Charles Weinkauf referred to a letter received from P. Thomas Murray, Jr. representing
the Ponds West Homeowners Association, which states, in part "The Ponds West
Homeowners Association's Board of Directors opposes any variance for the
developmental standards. The Board believes that it is in the Association's members' best
interest that the application under Docket No. V-17-00 be denied."
Members of the public were invited to speak in opposition to the petition; the following
appeared:
Chuck Adkins, 14350 Quail Point Drive, Carmel, stated objection due to the number of
trees that would be removed in order to accommodate the construction of a single family
residence on this site. The trees are currently an effective site buffer between Mr.
Adkins' home and his neighbors.
Mr. Adkins stated that at the time Kingsborough was mapped out, the developers met
with the adjacent neighbors and promised that the wooded lot immediately in back of Mr.
Adkins and the side lot, the lot in question, would not be touched. This was a verbal
commitment from the developer to Mr. Adkins, his father, and his neighbors to the west
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of Kingsborough in Ponds West. The granting of the variance would substantially affect
the property values of the adjacent homeowners, and the residents would like to see the
verbal commitment honored.
Tom Harrison, 1000 141A Street, Carmel, voiced opposition to the petition by reason of
public safety. A hill to the west of the site obscures the view of traffic from the west to
anyone entering the right-of-way. The drive would also be hidden from view of traffic
eastbound on 141st Street. The speed limit in the area is 45 mph, although traffic is
known to travel almost 70 mph. With increased construction in the area,there is a
tremendous increase in the amount of traffic flow on 141st Street.
Bob Fritsche, 14360 Quail Point Road, stated objection to the proposed development by
reason of waterway disruption and endangering wildlife habitat. Altering a controlled
waterway at the front of the property could cause flooding to surrounding properties or
change the status of some area properties to a flood zone and cause financial burden on
property owners of the entire area. The proposed site is one of the few remaining areas
that give refuge to many wild animals in the area and would endanger their habitat.
Earlene Plavchak moved for the approval of V-17-00, Kingsborough remainder. The
vote was 0 in favor, 4 opposed, none abstaining. MOTION DENIED.
NOTE: Items 5i. through 15i. were heard together and voted on separately.
4i. Bauer Commercial Park- UAG Honda(SUA-21-00)
Petitioner seeks Special Use Amendment approval to alter the existing approval
for an automobile dealership. The site is located at 4140 East 96th Street. The site
is zoned B-3/Business.
Filed by Charles Frankenberger of Nelson&Frankenberger for UAG Young, Inc.
5i.-10i. Bauer Commercial Park-UAG Honda (V-22-00; V-23-00; V-24-00; V-25-
00; V-26-00; V-27-00)
Petitioner seeks Developmental Standards Variances of Sections 25.7.02-7(b):
Number & Type to increase from one sign to eleven; and 25.7.02-7(c):Maximum
Sign Area to allow the following:
V-23-00 one 55.42 square foot "Honda" sign
V-24-00 one 80 square foot Honda logo
V-25-00, V-26-00 two 65.625 square foot "Service Center" signs
V-27-00 one 69.75 square foot "Dan Young" sign
The site is located at 4140 East 96th Street. The site is zoned B-3/Business.
Filed by Charles Frankenberger of Nelson&Frankenberger for UAG Young, Inc.
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l li. Bauer Commercial Park- UAG Oldsmobile (SUA-28-00)
Petitioner seeks Special Use Amendment approval to alter the existing approval
for an automobile dealership. The site is located at 4100 East 96th Street. The site
is zoned B-3/Business.
Filed by Charles Frankenberger of Nelson&Frankenberger for UAG Young, Inc.
12i.- 15i. Bauer Commercial Park- UAG Oldsmobile (V-29-00; V-30-00; V-31-00;
V-32-00)
Petitioner seeks Developmental Standards Variances of Sections 25-7.02-7(b):
Number & Type to increase from one sign to ten; and 25.7.02-7(c):Maximum
Sign Area to allow the following:
V-30-00; V-31-00 two 55.33 square foot "Service Center" signs
V-32-00 one 99.66 square foot "Dan Young Oldsmobile sign
The site is located at 4100 East 96th Street. The site is zoned B-3Business.
Filed by Charles Frankenberger of Nelson&Frankenberger for UAG Young, Inc.
Charlie Frankenberger, 4983 St. Charles Place, Carmel, appeared before the Board
representing United Auto Group in connection with its request for Sign Variances and a
revision to a previously approved Special Use. Approval of the requests will allow Dan
Young to operate an Oldsmobile dealership and a Honda dealership in two buildings,
presently occupied by Dellen Oldsmobile and Dellen Lincoln Mercury.
The petitioner appeared before the Board in May. At that time, the vote was 2 in favor,
one opposed to the Special Use request, and there was no vote on the sign variances.
Consequently, the entire matter was postponed until this evening.
The original Special Use permitting the use of the two buildings for an automobile
dealership was approved by the Board of Zoning Appeals on March 23, 1987. As a result
of the prior approval, Dellen was permitted to operate a Lincoln Mercury dealership in
one building and an Oldsmobile dealership in another building. Under the request this
evening, the use will remain the same; it is being presented because the front of the
buildings has changed to reflect the new proprietor.
An overhead was displayed showing the site and the surrounding area. The elevation of
the Honda building was also shown. The building remains substantially the same except
for the front. The building will be a white textured material with blue trim.
Originally, 11 sign variances were being requested, one for the number of signs, the other
10 were for the sizes of signs. After conferring with the Department, the petitioner has
eliminated six of the bubble signs that were below the Service Center and they do not
appear in the renderings. The Dan Young and Honda signs were consolidated.
Therefore, the number of signs has been reduced from 11 to 4.
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The logo is silver and on-let; the other signs are individually mounted, internally
illuminated, blue lettering. Again, the building is white with blue trim and remains
substantially the same except for the façade of the building.
The Oldsmobile building remains substantially the same except for the front. The
building will be white with red trim. The signs being requested require four variances;
three for the size of signs, one for the number of signs. Again, the petitioner conferred
with the Department and as a result of that meeting, the number of Oldsmobile logos has
been reduced from 7 to 4.
A photographic rendering was shown of the proposed building. With the exception of
logos that are on-lit and silver, all other signs are internally illuminated and red in color.
The exterior surface will also be a white textured material with red trim.
Mr. Frankenberger commented that the signs are believed to be appropriate for the 96th
Street commercial corridor and enable the petitioner to compete with the neighbors to the
south in Marion County. The signage also provides the public with needed information
by identifying the logo, vehicle make, identity of the dealer, and the availability of
service.
Mr. Frankenberger stated the following reasons for disagreement with the Department's
recommendations: The Department has expressed a preference for the style of the
existing buildings and therefore recommends denial of the Special Uses and the attendant
sign package. In the alternative, the Department recommends approval of the sign
packages if the Special Uses are approved. The points of disagreement are as follows: It
is the petitioner's understanding under the Zoning Ordinance that Special Uses are
generally to be considered favorably unless they are obviously inappropriate. The
petitioner's believes that this use is appropriate and consistent with surrounding
businesses. The primary use of the real estate for automobile sales and service was
already approved in 1987. The only thing being changed is the front of the building--all
else remains substantially the same. There is no Overlay Zone applicable to 96th Street
and there are no architectural standards in the Ordinance. If architectural standards are to
be applied, they should be specified, predictable and uniform.
The revised frontages shown have evolved as part of the manufacturer's identity and
indicate that there is a new proprietor. The architectural styles were not arbitrarily
chosen--there are those who prefer these revised frontages and consider them to be
newer, cleaner, and fresher.
The granting of the petitioner's request should not be considered in any manner to be a
reversal of the 1987 Board's original approval. In other words, the granting of the
petitioner's request is not a disagreement with the decision of the 1987 Board--It is not a
statement that the 1987 Board was wrong. It is the petitioner's belief that the 1987
Board's decision was correct, but that different proprietors and different manufacturers
now want to occupy the building. Therefore, an amendment to the existing Special Use
is being requested.
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Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to any or all of the
proposed petitions; no one appeared.
Laurence Lillig reported that the Department agrees with Mr. Frankenberger in that the
use of the site is not affected by the change;therefore, the Department stands by the 1987
Board's decision to approve the red brick, architectural style for the building. The
Department's recommendation also makes provision with respect to the sign variances,
that if the change in style is not approved, a sign package appropriate to the existing
façade should be submitted.
Pat Rice's comments: The corridor does have a corporate look with the exception of the
grandfathered businesses close to Keystone, and the proposed certainly breaks the
corridor look. The existing facades could have been used with signage reflecting the new
ownership.
Earlene Plavchak agreed with comments made by Pat Rice. The proposed is a very
different look and difficult to believe that it is the 96th Street corridor. A proposal should
be brought forth preserving the corporate façade with different signage.
Michael Mohr's comments: One of the things being looked at is the dealership itself and
demands on the owners. From the standpoint of expectations for those buildings and
drawing traffic in and attracting customers, there may be some "tweaking" that can be
done. However, the proposed buildings are beautiful and consistent with both sides of
96th Street.
Earlene Plavchak asked if the corporate headquarters of Honda and Oldsmobile had a
recommended set of drawings or guidelines for new buildings.
Randy Reifsnider, representing Presnell Group, Architects, responded that both Honda
and Oldsmobile have corporate standards produced in a booklet. The guidelines are not
only for the buildings but the furnishings and finishings inside.
Earlene Plavchak asked if it was very likely that other, relatively new, Honda and
Oldsmobile dealerships will look like what is proposed. Mr. Reifsnider responded in the
affirmative.
Ms. Rice referred to other projects that have recently been approved and the fact that sign
packages have been totally different from those anywhere else in order to fit what Cannel
desires. It is not impossible for these companies to submit alternate designs for signage.
Ms. Rice recommended a compromise be worked out.
Ms. Rice asked if the petitioner were willing to return to the Board with a revised sign
package, utilizing the existing architectural design of the buildings and façade.
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Mr. Frankenberger asked for clarification: If the request is denied, is there anything that
would prohibit the petitioner from filing again and only requesting the sign variances for
the existing building, and not being required to wait one year before filing.
Mr. Molitor confirmed that there would be a wait period for re-applying for a Special
Use.
Laurence Lillig reported for the Department. If the Special Use Amendments are denied,
the Department could meet with the petitioner and discuss amending the Variance
petitions so that they would then be specific to the existing architecture. The Docket
numbers could then by recycled and scheduled for the next available agenda. Mr.
Molitor concurred.
Mr. Frankenberger reiterated his belief that architectural standards and preferences
should be applied on an ad-hoc basis where there is no basis in the Ordinance; there is no
Overlay Zone. There are those who prefer the proposed buildings to the existing
buildings and the 1987 Board did not say that "We are approving a red brick building and
the only thing that can ever go there is a red brick building." The petitioner is requesting
that the Board vote on the Special Use before them, and if there is a negative vote, the
petitioner requests a tabling on the sign variances.
There was a question of clarification from Pat Rice regarding the square footage of the
entire Honda sign. Laurence Lillig explained that the diameter of the semi-circle,
multiplied by the height from ground to the roof line, totals 870 square feet.
The public hearing was then closed.
Michael Mohr moved for approval of Bauer Commercial Park-UAG Honda (SUA-
21-00). The vote was 2 in favor, 2 opposed (Earlene Plavchak and Pat Rice) NO
DECISION VOTE. The petitioner will return to the July meeting.
Michael Mohr moved for approval of Bauer Commercial Park-UAG Oldsmobile
(SUA-28-00). The vote was 2 in favor, 2 opposed (Earlene Plavchak and Pat Rice) NO
DECISION VOTE. The petitioner will return to the July meeting.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was Adjourned at
12:50 AM.
Charles Weinkauf, President
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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