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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 07-21-87caxmnL PLAN -COMMISSION MINUTES - JULV21, 1987 ' .. 1 121 r The regular meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission was called to order by the president, Richard Albright, at 7:35 P.M. July 21, 1987 at the City Meet. ing Hall. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance. Roll was called and all members were present as follows: Richard Albright Sue McMullen, Jim O'Neal-, Sr., Vaughn Story, Henrietta Lamb, Paul Ayers, Ila Badger, Max Moore, Minnie Doane, Jeff Davis, Sandra Long, Bob Boone and Jim — Schneider. Staff members present were: Gordon Byers, Chuck Kiphart and Rosalind McCart. , There were no additions or corrections to the minutes of the June 16, 198r meeting and Mr. O'Neal moved that they be approved as submitted. Seconded by Mrs. Badger. Motion carried. Mrs. McMullen related that the City Council did act on the ordinances (in- cluding the cul-de-sac ordinance) and did approve them. Mr. Albright spoke of a letter dated June 22, 1987 from Mayor Reiman re- garding Carmel Dr. sidewalks (which is a part of the official minutes and attached to the master copy). Mayor Reiman related that she had instructed the city engineer in May to notify the property owners on Carmel Dr. to put i their sidewalks. Mr. Albright said he received a letter from Coppergate Subdivision develoF er, R.J. Klein, stating that he was concerned about the mention of his sub- division by Tom Schellenberger concerning the installation of septic systems on those lots. Mr. Klein sent Mr. Albright a copy of a report prepared by a PHD Soil Scientist from the Dept. of Agronomy at Purdue Univ. (which is in th file in the Dept. of Community Development) who had studied the soils as they exist today in that subdivision and who suggested several ways of handling th situation. A lot by lot report was included suggesting where on the lots the septic should go and the recommended system to use. A letter from the Hamilton County Health Dept. was read by Mr. Albright (which is a part of the official minutes and attached'to the master copy) -- stating that effective July 17, 1987 the Hamilton County Board of Health re- quires that a soils evaluation be conducted by a soil scientist who is accept able to the Board of Health on all subdivision plats in Hamilton County. G. Public Hearings 19. 7:30 P.M., Public Hearing on Docket No. 49-87 D.P. Development Plan Application for a 2,900 sq. ft. addition to the existing Stewart Law Office. Site is zoned B-7 and located at 931 S. Range Line Rd..in Carmel, IN. (BZA Variance required). Filed by Phillip L. Stewart. The public hearing opened at 7:45 with Mr. Stewart making the presentation for a 2900 sq. ft. addition to his property. The plan was shown and explaine, for the 40 ft. wide by 70 ft. long expansion, with a basement level for storal for law offices. 'The total sq. ft. of the building with the addition will be 434o. There are 10 parking spaces presently and 12 additional are proposed. Three variances from the Board of Zoning Appeals are required. Color photos of the existing structure and an elevation drawing were passe( to members. An exterior drawing of the building was shown. Building materials that blend with the existing structure will be used. All parking areas will be curbed. Mayor Jane Reiman was present and"spoke of B-7 zoning and its origin. stat- ing that the intent of the B-7 is'to protect the residential areas to the east and that Mr, Stewart request this evening will not protect those to the east Mayor Reiman said she objects because it is a major change in the B-7 zone, Mr. Stewart responded assuring that the neighbors are fully aware of these plans and that he has talked with them about it. Mr. Stewart. said the neigh- bors approve of what he has done so far and are not opposed to the proposal, lZbUAKtVEL FLAN COMMISSION MINUTES JULY 21, 1987 Page Iq Z T The public hearing closed at 8:00. Mr. Stewart informed that. the parking proposed is only to meet the ordin- ance. They anticipate4,aO, people in the office and'they do not need all the spaces required by ordinance. Mr. Stewartsaid they could have a green belt on the east side by g1'v3iig up seven parking' spaces. i j They will be losing 4 trees in this new addition process,and they will ibe replacing trees on the south property line. i This item was referred to the Land Use Committee for review on August 4, 1987 at 7:30 P.M. at the City Meeting Hall.. 2g. 7:30 P.M., Public Hearing on Docket No. 59-87 Z, Rezone Application fa 68.568 acres of land located at S.E. corner of 116th St. and Spring Mill Rd. Petitioner requests a change from the existing S-2 zoning tc B-6 zoning for a proposed multi -building office complex. Petitioner Illf also commits to certain covenants and conditions as part of the rezone request. Filed by Jim Nelson, Attorney for Dr. John B. Pittman, property owner. Dr. and Mrs. John Pittman, Al Oak of Paul I.• Cripe, Inc., Moe Thomas of Thomas`Assoc. and John Meir, HNTB (Traffic Consultants) were present. The public hearing opened at 8:07 with Mr. Nelson making the presentation. Location and surrounding uses were presented and an aerial photo was shown Mr. Nelson stated that ttiis property is on the fringe of the Meridian Corridor and next to high rise buildings and will not be appropriately develo ed as residential. It is a transitional area and the petitioner requests to develop the parcel as an office park to be known as Spring Mill Center. The height of the buildings is to be restricted. An enlargement of the recommended Land Use Map was shown to point out this transitional area. The conceptual development plan was presented and it is to be developed into 4 parcels. Parcel A is 20.2 acres abutting Fidelity Plaza and the Meridian Corridor. The use will be restricted to office use in a five story building 80 ft. in height. Parcel B fronts on Spring Mill Rd, and will be for office use in a three story building not to exceed 45 ft. in height. -The parcel will contain a lake near Spring Mill Rd. Parcel C abuts lllth Street to the south and will be for a one story office use. The parcel will contain a retention pond. Parcel D will be a 100 ft. landscape mound that will run the entire length of the north, west and south sides. This green belt contaij 9.5 acres or 14o of the available acreage. There will be earth mounds and landscaping along the main boulevard and at the entrances and these improvements will be installed prior to the first certificate of occupancy for the first office building. There will be Indianapolis water and road improvements to the entrances on 116th and lllth Streets have been approved by Mr. Hufford. The collector street within the perimeter of the property will be. 26 ft. wide (per lane) and will be dual lane at the entrance. Concerning commitments and covenants, Dr. Pittman covenanted that certain excluded uses in the Overlay Zone apply to this parcel, the site development approval will be subject to continuing jurisdiction of the Carmel Plan Com- mission, the use of the real estate will be restricted to office and parcel D will remain as a permanent green belt. Mr.. Nelson stated that this proposal is the most appropriate use for this real estate and provides an element of transition. Prepared reports regarding the project were passed to members to review. Mayor Jane Reiman made comments, stating that she is neither for or agains'f the proposal at this time but asked the petitioner and Plan Commission mem- bers to give consideration to the very important matter of the building and improvement of the roads and the intersection of 116th St. and Spring Mill Rd, i! Mayor Reiman urged that 116th St. be widened to 4 lanes and that Spring Mill Rd. and 116th St. be studied and upgraded, stating that traffic and roads are a priority and she feels the petitioner should pay for these improvements. w/Cl4I=L FLAN -COMMISSION MINUTES = JULY 21, 1987 Page .3 1 Z Mayor Reiman related that over the years other petitioners have built roads, etc., as part of their initial plan and that we must not compromise. Bob Book, 12550 Spring Mill Rd., representing Clay West Property Owners Assn., spoke in opposition to bringing commercial to Spring Mill Rd. Mr. Book stated that the corridor was done in such a way that property owners on each side are protected over a long period of time and urged the Commission _- to keep faith in the Comprehensive Plan. Earl Schleicher, 11 W. lllth St., spoke in opposition, stating that there is a major traffic problem now in trying to get out onto Meridian from lllth St., that lllth St, is not wide enough to allow for this additional traffic and that there is already a drainage problem. Marvin Klingman, just south of Schleicher's property, said that the corric is already commercial against their wishes and asked why can't we keep Sprinh Mill residential all the way up. Mr. Klingman stated that lllth St, would have to be widened and a stop light would be needed at lllth and U.S. 31. Mr. Doug Church, Noblesville attorney, representing the Frenzels and the Bookwalters on Spring Mill Rd., made a presentation in opposition to this re- zone stating that rezoning from residential to commercial is the most radical and urged the Commission to stop putting commercial in noncommercial areas. Mr. Church said the reason for this intrusion into residential is that the Property owner will personally profit from this investment and asked that the existing zoning classification be kept. Chuck Wilson, attorney at Box 82001, One Indiana Square,,Indianapolis, IN. representing the people south of lllth St. and east of Spring Mill Rd., made a presentation stating that there is no commercial development on Spring Mill Rd. at this time and they are very concerned about this proposed commercial development. ' Mr. Wilson said he is confused as to who the petitioner is and asked Mr. Byers to look into who is the correct petitioner in this case. Mr. Wilson questioned if the purpose and intent of the B-6 District'is to include properties that are bounded by lllth St., 116th St. and Spring'Mill ..-Rd., all of which are in an inappropriate condition for this kind of a dev- elopment. .Mr. Wilson stated that there is nothing in the covenants that has anything to do with the road problems and asked that the Commission deny this request for a rezone. Richard Strain, Spring Mill Streams Homeowners' Assn., urged the Plan Com- mission to vote against this rezone and keep Spring Mill Rd. a buffer resi- dential zone. Wally Boysen, 10989 Spring Mill In., spoke of the increasing traffic on Spring Mill now and said that this is of great concern. Jeanne Book, 12550 Spring Mill Rd., asked to keep Spring Mill completely residential and urged the petitioner to go back to the drawing board. Gary Schnitz, 11088 Spring Mill In., spoke in opposition. Dick McKenna, 11070 Spring Mill In., stated concern for the protection of the Carmel community neighborhoods and urged the Commission to vote against the rezone and protect our neighborhoods. Peg Goldberg, 12800 Shelbourne Rd., Clay West Property Owners Assn., and a Hamilton County Commissioner, urged the Commission to vote NO on behalf of the County Commissioners. Mrs. Goldberg said the roads will not handle this additional traffic and the detention -retention ponds are not a long range solution to poor soils and drainage problems. Mrs. Goldberg said also that more police protection would be needed and that she believes the original: Plan of residential along Spring Mill Rd. should be honored. Sue Dillon, Spring Mill Streams., said that commercial use would have,a domino effect and that she feels threatened by commercial development along Spring Mill Rd. Robert Roberto, 321 W. 107th St., stated concern for traffic and the safety of their children and families along that area. Letters in opposition from Terry and Jane Lynch, 107 W. lllth St., and from 10LUARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES,- JULY-•21, 1987 Page `4 - Sam and Lucina Moxley, 11612 Wm. Creek Dr., were read by Mr. Albright and introduced into the record. These letters are a part of the official min- utes and are attached to the master copy.. Mr. Nelson made responding remarks commenting*on the Comprehensive Plan and stating that they`'a're aware of the traffic and its study and the con- dition of the roads, and related their road improvement plans: The public hearing closed at 9:50. t Mr. Ayers questioned the plan for the school property across the road on Spring Mill Rd. Mr. O'Neal answered that there are no current plans for the 80 acres owned by the school, which was originally purchased for a second high school Mrs. McMullen commented regarding sidewalks in Clay Twp., relating"that the county has said NO to sidewalks in Clay Twp. This item was sent to the Technical Advisory Committee for review on Thursday, July 23 at 10:30 A.M. and to the Land Use Committee for August 4, 1987 at the City Meeting Hall. The petitioner is to bring traffic data along to the committee meeting. 3g• 7:30 P.M., Public Hearing on Docket No. 60-87 Z, Rezone Application for 40 acres of land located.at the X.E. corner of Westfield Blvd. an( E. 99th St. Petitioner requests a change from the'existing.S-2 zoning to R-1 Zone District for a proposed cluster subdivision. Filed by Jim Nelson for Paul E. Estridge, Sr., property owner.: Paul Estridge, Sr., Paul Estridge, Jr. and Bruce Hagen of Mid -States Engir. eering were present. The public hearing opened at 10:12 with Mr. Nelson making the presentation An aerial view of the area was shown. The surrounding area is residential and the recommended land use is mod- erate intensity residential. The petitioner plans single family residential under the Cluster Option. Albert Sherry, 2344 E. 99th St., questioned the drainage for this prop- erty, stating that the run off is crease this run off. terrible now and the cluster homes will in= Mr. Sherry said that cluster is not in keeping with the surrounding homes and asked what is going to be done with 99th St., relating that Keystone cannot handle any more traffic and where is it going to go and will the roads be widened. Jim Decoursey, 10000 Westfield Blvd., said that cluster homes there is in- consistent with the surrounding area and questioned the rezone from R-2 to R Mr. Decoursey asked how many units and the values of the property and why doe the petitioner want clusters in this area of single family large lots.; Bill Stubbs, 10415 Chester Dr., stated that this is an established neigh- borhood for single family and feels the drainage problems should be resolved before any consideration to a rezone is given. Mr. Stubbs asked how this wil: be handled. Jody Zilker, 2405 E. 99th St., stated that she wants less densi } more than one house per acre on that land. tY and no Mr. Nelson explained that they are only asking for R-1 instead of R-2 and they will be single family homes. The cluster option allows them to be -clust- ered. Mr. Nelson said the roadways are under the jurisdiction of the county and thawhat is t the drainage will be improved with the use of retention pondsts.. 128 lots is This item awas dreferred toathe wLand OUse lCommittee for review on Au 1987 at the City Meeting Hall. gust 4, H. Old Business 7h. Commission to consider Docket No. 5-85 S.P., Secondary Plat re -approval for Brookshire Village consisting of lots 197 through 202. This Second pSz'br Plat was originally approved on Feb. 18, 1985. Since one year has Zoning Oi�inathisZagroval, a reapproval is necessary per the Carmel 0, as amended. CARMEL PLAN • COMMISSION MINUTES `- JULY 21, 1987 Z'''"t 'Page ' - W �., g 5 13: Mrs. Badger moved to hear this item of old business first. F Seconded by Mr. Davis. Motion carried. Mr. Stan Neal of Weihe Engineers was present. This Secondary Plat was approved in 1985 and was not recorded in the time limit allowed and now needs reapproval. — Mr. Story moved to reapprove this Secondary -Plat for Brookshire Village, lots 197 through 202. Seconded by Mr. Davis. i Motion carried unanimously. lh. Commission to consider Docket No. 48-87 Z, Rezone.. Develo I Application for 1 pment�& ADLS 7.3 acres of land located at the S.E. corner of Penn sylvania St. and 116th St. Petitioner requests a change from the exi ing R-1 zoning to B-5 Zone District for a proposed office development Filed by Sam Gillespie for Trammell Crow Co. Mr. Gillespie and Mr. Jim Nelson were present. Mrs. Badger gave the Land Use Committee report (which is a part of;the official minutes and attached to the master copy). The committee recommender approval and Mrs. Badger so moved. Seconded by Mrs. Lamb. Motion carried unanimously and a favorable recommendation will be forwards to the City Council. Mr. Boone stated that the Industrial and Commercial Committee recommends approval of the Development Plane and Mr. Boone so moved. Seconded by Mr. O'Neal. Motion carried unanimously. i At this point in the agenda Mr. Albright related that, in order to gen- erate funds for the increase of two staff members for Mr. Kiphart's office, fees need to be increased and the Executive Committee is to review this matter. 2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 50-87 P-P., Primary Plat Applicatioi for Copperwood Subdivision consisting of 79 lots on 40.27 acres. Sits is zoned R-1 and located on the south side of 146th St, immediately east of Woodgate Subdivision in Clay Twp. Filed by Donald Dunkerly. Mr. Dunkerly and Stan Neal of Weihe Engineers were present. I Mr. Davis gave the Subdivision Committee report. The committee recommend• ed•approval and Mr. Davis so moved. Seconded by Mr. Ayers. Findings of fact were completed by members. This approval is for 78 lots. Motion carried•unanimously. 3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 51-87 P.P., Primary Plat Applicatior. for Towne Lake Subdivision consisting of 34 lots on 2.7 acres. Site is zoned S-1 and located on the west side of Towne Rd. approx. 1500 fi south of 106th St. in Clay Twp. Filed by Vural Gurtunca for the Circle Group, Inc. Mr. Gurtunca, Phillip Nicely and Stan Neal were present. Mr. Davis gave the Subdivision Committee report. The committee recommend- ed approval subject to the drainage approval letter from Kent Ward. The public hearing closed at 11:04. The public hearing had been held open from the previous meeting. Mr. Davis moved approval as presented. Seconded by Mr. Ayers. Mr. Davis stated that the risk of getting a septic permit is on the developer, relating that the land cannot be developed without a septic permit Findings of fact were completed by members. to/,t,j-LM'1Li1' ri,nll UU1.II.11JJ1U11 1•1114UTEJ - Ou" 4.1, lyo'( rage o- Motion carried 12 to 1 (Mr. Albright voting NO). 4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 52-87 P.P., Primary Plat Application for Valleybrook Subdivision consisting of 30 lots on 27.75 acres. Site is zoned S-1 and located on the east side of Gray Rd. directly south of Woodfield Subdivision in Clay Twp. Filed by James P. Dugan for Dugan & Morris Development Corp. Stan Neal of Weihe Engineers was present. Mr. Ayers gave the Subdivision Committee report. The committee recommend- ed approval and Mr. Ayers so moved. Seconded by Mr. Davis. Mr. Kiphart stated that he has the drainage plan approval and the Fire Chief's approval. Findings of fact were completed by members. Motion carried unanimously. 5h. Commission to consider Docket No. 46-87 ADLS, Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage Application for Copy Rite Inc., a 14,000 sq. ft. office building. Site is zoned B-2/B-6 and is located in Meridian Technology Center in Carmel, IN. Filed by James Head for Copy Rite, Inc. Mr. George Sweet was present. Mr. Boone gave the Industrial and Commercial Committee report (which is a Part of the official minutes and attached to the master copy). The committee recommended approval and Mr. Boone so moved. Seconded by Mrs. McMullen. Motion carried unanimously. 6h. Commission to consider Docket No. 47-87 ADLS, Architectural Design, Lighti g and Signage Application for a proposed 104,000 sq. ft. of£icen/warehouse facility. Site is zoned B-2 and located in Meridian Technology Center in Clay Twp. Filed by Kevin A. Miller for Technology Center Associates. Mr. Miller was present. There is one slight change to the elevation - a brick. Samples were shown. Mr. Boone gave the Industrial and Commercial part of the official minutes acid attached to the recommended approval and Mr. Boone so moved. Seconded by Mr. Moore. Motion carried unanimously. a drivit material instead of Committee report (which is a master copy). The committee I. New Business li. Commission to consider Docket No. 61-87 ADLS, Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage and Landscaping Application for subdivision sign approval for Smokey Knoll Subdivision located at the N.W. corner of Gray Rd. and 136th St. Filed by Dick Fisher for SAFCO, Inc. The petitioner was not present and this item was not heard. 2i. Commission to consider Docket No. 62-87 S.P., Secondary Plat Applicati for Kingswood Subdivision, Sec. 2, consisting of 54 lots on 26.225 acres. Site is zoned S-1 and located y mile south of 116th St., E. of Gray Rd, in City of Carmel, IN. Filed by Ray Roehling for Kingswood, Inc. Mr. Roehling was present. Mr. Joseph Meischke requested by letter to speak this evening regarding con cern for a potential drainage problem in that construction has already been done in a floodway that leads into Cool Creek and the permit from the state has not been given. yr _.. ,CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES - JULY 21, 1987 .0 Page..713� Mr. Kiphart addressed the matter stating ' and they should come out and deal with it. Jack Sutherland, Schneider Engineering, subdivision. Discussion followed regarding regulation which is up to the state. that that is the state's problem explained the run off fromthis of construction in a floodway, Mr. Davis moved to approve the Secondary Plat. Seconded by Mr. Ayers. Motion carried unanimously. 1•3i. Commission to consider Docket No. 63-87 S.P., Secondary Plat Appli- cation for Lexington Farms, Sec. 1, consisting of 29 lots on 12.993 acres. Site is zoned R-1 and R-3 and located 1 mile west of Westfieli Blvd. between lllth St. and 106th St. in Clay Twp. G Filed by Dean Ziegler for Davis Development Corp. j Mr. Davis moved approval of the Secondary Plat. Seconded by Mr. Ayers. i Motion carried unanimously. 4i. Commission to consider Docket No. 64-87 ADLS,.Architectural Design, Lighting and Signage Application for 52,400 sq. ft. combination retail office building. Site is zoned B-2 and located at the N.E. corner of Pennsylvania St. and Congressional Blvd. in City of Carmel", IN.! Filed by Kevin Miller for Browning Investment Corp. I Mr. Miller was present showing the plan for a two story office building, ry combination retail A rendering of the building and the landscape site plan were shown. Trash storage will be inside the building. An elevation drawing was shown. The building will be of brick with stone accent. . Two sign locations are requested for the office space. The signs will be white letters with bronze returns. The individual retail tenants si space. gnage will be on sign panels above their A roof plan was shown. There will be two large mechanical equipment piece which will be completely screened. The lighting plan was presented, i. This item was referred to the Industrial and Commercial Committee for review on August 4, 1987 at the City Meeting Hall. .. 5i. Commission to consider Docket No. 65-87 ADLS, Architectural Design, Ligh 4ting and Signage Application for Executive Commons Phase 2,,a .0.48 sq.•ft. office building located at Executive Commons, 270,E. Carmel Drive. Site is zoned B-8. Filed by Mick Sheetz. Mr. Sheetz was present. Mr. Robert Turner, architect,, made the presentation. 81 parking spaces are required and the petitioner proposes 118. Parking will be paved and curbed. They plan only two tenants. The plan was shown. The existing landscaping will not be effected. Additional landscaping shown for 7 white pine trees. Drainage and utilities were presented. The lighting and floor plans were shown. The building will be wood frame construction with brick veneer. The building is for office use. The exterior of the building was shown. The signage will be the same as presently exists. This item was sent to the Industrial and Commercial Committee for review 1 5�bARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES - JULY 21, 1987 Page 8 {; `}'"u' .y on August 4, 1987 at the City Meeting Hall 4 6i. Commission to consider Docket No. 66-8.7,•:,ADLS., Architectural Design and Signage and Lighting"Application for-5k6(4uik's Oilube Inc., a 2;232 N.W.1commercial cbuilding. Site is zoned - W.cornerofKeystoneAve. and116thSt. in the City cofeCarmel�,eIN. Filed by Doug Floyd for Mcquik',s Oilube Inc., William Gruppe, Pres. _ Mr. Doug Floyd made the presentation for the commercial building on .89 acres of land. The plans and a rendering of the building were presented. The landscaping was shown. Samples of the building materials were shown and the+colors will be brown and earth tones. The signage is per the ordinance and the location was pointed out. The lighting plan was shown. This item was sent to the Industrial and Commercial Committee for review on August 4, 1987 at the City Meeting Hall. ssion to 7i. PlatlApplicationnforer Docket No. Woodfield, See. 46 Subdivisionoval of consistingofd29 lots on 17.36 acres. Site is zoned S-1 and located I mile E. of Gray Rd. and I mile south of 146th St. in City `of Carmel, IN. Filed by Stu Huckleberry for Robert Langston. Mr. Huckleberry and Mr. Langston were present. Mr. Davis moved reapproval of the Secondary Plat for Woodfield, Sec'. 4. Seconded by Mr. Story. Motion carried unanimously. , 8i. Commission to consider Docket No. 67-87 S.P., Secondary Plat Appli- cation for Foster Estates, Sec. 2, consisting of 51 lots on 23.9 acres. Site is zoned R-1 and located at the N.W. corner of Carey Rd. and 146th St. in the City of Carmel, IN. Filed by John T. Schutz for Quadrant Development Corp. Mr. Schutz. -was present. Mr. Davis moved to approve the Secondary Plat for Foster Estates, Sec. 2. Seconded by Mr. Story. Motion carried unanimously. There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting adjourned. President Secretary f ' Y 1 i j A f 'r