HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PC 12-17-91 CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17 , 1991 1
The regular meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission was brought to
order by Jeff Davis, President on December 17 , 1991 at 7 : 38 P .M.
at the City Council Chambers . The meeting was opened with the
Pledge of Allegiance.
The board members present were: Jeff Davis, Max Moore, Tom Welch,
Jim O'Neal, Henrietta Lamb, Norma Meighen, Judi Jacobs , Annabelle
Ogle, Richard Klar, Sue McMullen, Alan Potasnik, Tom Whitehead,
Ron Houck, Henry Blackwell and Sharon Clark of Hamilton County
Plan Commission. Caroline Bainbridge was not present.
The staff members present were: Terry Jones, Mike Hollibaugh,
Wm. Wendling, Jr. , Karen McClure and Dorthy Neisler.
Ms . McMullen moved to approve the October 15, 1991 as amended.
Ms . Ogle seconded.
Unanimously approved.
Mr. Blackwell moved to approve the November 19 , 1991 minutes as
presented.
Mr. Houck seconded.
Unanimously approved.
COMMUNICATIONS, BILLS EXPENDITURES & LEGAL COUNCIL REPORT
Wm. Wendling, Jr. stated that they were contracted to redraft the
ordinance and to make it a more manageable document. A copy of
the Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance Preliminary Draft was
distributed to all board members for their review. This next
year it was scheduled to work with the Plan Commission with the
Plan Commission' s direction and to do whatever is necessary to
review this document to incorporate changes or answer questions
that the Planning Commission and the community at large has
regarding the body of this document. Hopefully, at the end of
the year process that they would have a document that the
Planning Commission could unanimously recommend to the City
Council .
Mr. Wes Bucher stated that there will be additional copies of the
Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance Preliminary Draft in the office of
the Department of Community Development.
Also, HNTB will have a finished print out of the Comprehensive
Update Plan by December 31, 1991.
Mr. Bucher thanked everyone that he has worked with in his term
of office.
G. PUBLIC HEARING
lg. Commission to consider Docket No. 61-91 PA, a Plat
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Amendment application for the replatting of lots six
and seven and the vacation of lot 14 of the Brentwood
subdivision, located on the south side of 136th Street,
approximately one quarter mile east of Keystone Avenue.
This amendment involves 3 lots on . 910 acres of land,
that is zoned R-2 (residence) .
Filed by Robert Lasich.
The public hearing was opened at 8 :47 P.M.
Mr. Robert Lasich, 9100 Keystone Crossing, Suite 400,
Indianapolis, IN, made the presentation, a copy of which is on
file at the Carmel Department of Community Development.
A development plan was displayed and brochures were handed out to
all board members .
There were no comments from the public:: at this time.
The public hearing was closed at 8 :49 P.M.
Staff recommendations were noted by Mr. Davis (which is a part of
the official minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
Mr. Terry Jones stated that through conversations with Mr. Lasich
their desirous of requesting suspensin and based on the fact
that the magnitude of th; project and what they are wanting to
do, they have been to the Technical Advisory Committee already,
that was merely a suggestion recommendation by the TAC to
relocate the easement. It was in no 'ray looked at as something
that they really stressed other than the fact that they wanted to
bring it to the attention of the appl:_cant. Should they desire
to build something in that area in the future, that easement
effectively bisects their lot and could cause some problems with
the issuance of a building permit in the future. The lot is
large enough that most likely it shouldn't cause them any
trouble .
Ms . McMullen moved to suspend the rules and vote on this tonight.
Mr. Klar seconded.
Unanimously approved.
Mr. Houck moved to approve Docket No. 61-91 PA as presented.
Seconded.
Unanimously approved.
H. OLD BUSINESS
lh. Commission to consider Doc] et No. 44-91, a Primary Plat
application for Rosemead Commons, located at the north
side of 116th Street, approximately one quarter mile
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west of Rangeline Road. The plat includes 18 lots on
10 . 98 acres of land, that is zoned R-1(residence) .
Filed by James J.Nelson for R.A.Dine Co. , Inc .
Subdivision Committee minutes were noted. There was a concern
for the traffic situation. (which is a part of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
Mr. Blackwell moved to approve Docket No. 44-91 PP as presented.
Mr. Houck seconded.
Ms . Sharon Clark asked if the Public Works has the authority to
make the land available for a blister.
Mr. Terry Jones stated that the only way they would have
authority would be if the City itself would want to proceed with
purchasing or condemning this . It would have to be one of those
two procedures . The City Council or Board of Public Works would
have to enter into.
Mr. Nelson stated that he had explained that they had asked for a
variance from the requirements of the Subdivision Control
Ordinance as to passing blisters . The reason that they asked for
the passing blister is because sufficient right of way does not
exist for the construction of a passing blister. The entirety of
the right of way of 116th Street is within the jurisdiction of
the City of Carmel . The area where they would have to obtain in
order to construct the passing blister is within the jurisdiction
of the county, because the curb cut that is being granted by the
Carmel Board of Public Works for entrance into this project, is
to be approved by the Board of Public Works . The county
expressed no interest in this project. Further, Mr. Wendling,
Jr. reviewed the Subdivision Control Ordinance and determined
that the construction of a passing blister is not required for
any residential subdivision when adequate right-of-way does not
exist for its construction. Initially they asked for a variance,
it was later determined by Mr. Wendling, Jr. that if sufficient
right-of-way does not exist and cannot be acquired and they were
not able to acquire it, a passing blister is not a requirement.
They are not seeking a variance for the lack of a passing
blister. It is not a requirement that they have one. Mr. Nelson
stated that if the county acquires the land for us and they have
no ability to acquire, they will install the passing blister.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members .
Unanimously approved.
2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 52-91 OA, a Zoning
Ordinance amendment to Z-160, entitled the Zoning and
Subdivision Control Ordinance of the City of Carmel,
Indiana, 1980, as amended. The amendment would
establish regulations for installation of sidewalks in
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all developments .
Filed by Wm. Wendling, Jr. for the Carmel/Clay Plan
Commission.
THIS ITEM WAS TABLED AT THE LAND USE COMMITTEE.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No. 54-91 ADLS/DP(amend) ,
an Architectural Design, Lighting & Signage and
Development Plan Amendment Application for Duke
Associates-Parkwood Building 2 . Site consists of 4 . 6
acres of land located approximately 500 ' east&a46OIlHof
existing Building 1 within the Parkwood development at
the northwest corner of 96th Street and College Avenue.
Site is zoned B-6 (business ) . Petitioner requests
approval to construct a 97 , 800 square foot, four-story
office building.
Filed by Philip Nicely for Duke Associates .
Mr. Philip Nicely, 8888 Keystone Crossing, Indianapolis, IN,
stated that they appeared before the I & C committee. Regarding
the I & C minutes the one exception is that the last point is
that they made application for a variance and what they had said
they might do that or they would most likely reconfigure the
building. They do not own all the parcels in the park area is
not owned by Duke Associates .
Industrial & Commercial committee minutes were noted. (which is a
part of the official minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
Mr. Klar moved to approve Docket No. 54-91 ADLS/DP as presented.
Seconded.
Mr. Houck asked if there were any concerns that they are to be
aware of.
Mr. Terry Jones stated that the review of any project in this
development was a little bit complicated. When it was approved
in 1988 there was a set of commitments agreed to that the US 31
overlay requirement would be met for the overall development. It
was his understanding that was not to imply that each individual
phase as it came through would meet all of the requirements of
the US 31 Overlay for obvious reasons . There are certain things
that are not applicable on certain projects in the middle of the
development and that is the reason for pointing that out to the
Commission to how projects like this in this particular
development would be reviewed in the future as far as the US
Overlay, for the entire project and then for the project in
question. The B-6 requirements would be looked at as far as
setbacks and this kind of thing with the interior phases as they
develop. Regarding parking and landscaping are noted mainly for
illustration purposes when other projects come into that area.
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Mr. Houck asked about the island size being able to support
certain material that you decide to plant . Staff recommended a
written commitment on maintaining the islands .
Mr. Nicely stated that they have agreed to do that. Their
experience has been to maintain the islands and this type of
thing and landscaping that 4 1/2 feet is sufficient to do that.
They would give a commitment to continue to&a3744Hmaihhiin
Unanimously approved.
4h. Commission to consider Docket No . 56-91, a Primary
Plat(replat) application for Avian Glen, located on the
east side of Hazeldell Road, approximately one half
mile south of 146th Street. The plat includes 196 lots
on 113 . 78 acres of land, that is zoned S-1 (residence) .
The petitioner is also requesting the following
Subdivision Regulation variance:
6 . 5 . 3-Platting of double frontage lots .
Filed by Stuart Huckleberry for Avian Glen Associates .
Subdivision Committee minutes were noted (which is a part of the
official minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
Mr.Blackwell moved to approve Docket No. 56-91 Variance and
Primary Plat as presented.
Mr. Houck seconded.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members for the
Variance.
Unanimously approved.
Findings of Facts were completed by all board members for the
Primary Plat.
Unanimously approved.
5h. Commission to consider Docket No. 58-91 Z , a rezone
application for Logan Limited. Site consists of . 6
acre of land located approximately 800 ' north of 103rd
Street, on the east side of Pennsylvania. Site is
currently zoned R-1(residence) . Rezone request is to
zone this property to R-3 (residence) for the
construction of a three two-family dwellings .
Filed by Craig and Marshal Longardner for Logan
Limited.
Mr. Longardner stated that this has been amended to two( 2) duplex
units and have also committed to a floor plan that has met with
the approval of the neighborhood association.
Mr. Davis stated staff comments that if for any reason those
plans are modified after approval of the rezone, the petitioner
would need to reappear before the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission and
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the Carmel City Council for approval of the modifications (which
is a part of the official minutes and attached to the Master
Copy) .
Mr. Potasnik moved to approve Docket No. 58-91 Z as presented.
Mr. Klar seconded.
Unanimously approved.
I . NEW BUSINESS
li. Commission to consider Docket No. 62-91 ADLS (Amend) , an
Architectural Design, Signage and Lighting application
for Copyrite Inc . Petitioner seeks approval to the
remodel the existing building located at 11911 North
Meridian Street, Carmel, Indiana. The site is the
former Hewlett Packard building and contains 7 . 54 acres
of land. Property is zoned B-6 and is located within
the US 31 Overlay Zone.
Filed by George Sweet for Copyrite Inc . Center.
Mr. George Sweet, 2008 Burning Tree Lane. , Carmel, IN, made the
presentation, a copy of which is on file at the Carmel Department
of Community Development.
Mr. Bob Kerns , the Chief Financial Officer of Copyrite, Mr. Dean
Reynolds with the architectural firm of Tucker and Booker, Mr.
Dave Sexton, able assistant of Schneider Engineering were
present.
A site plan, a development plan and a rendering were displayed.
This will go to the Industrial & Commercial committee at 7 : 30
P.M. in the Caucus room on January 7, 1992 .
Mr. Jeff Davis stated this application is only pertinent to this
petitioner.
Ms . McMullen expressed to everyone how much she has enjoyed
working with them these past years and that it has been a
privilege to serve this committee for 12 years .
Mr. Davis expressed how much he has enjoyed working with everyone
and serving on this Plan Commission.
The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 36 P.M.
President Secretary