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City of Carmel Technical Advisory Committee February 17, 2021
CARMEL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 Place: Virtual meeting. Time: 9:00 a.m. (Approximate start times for each item are listed below) 9:00 a.m. Docket No. PZ-2021-00003 PP: Asherwood Primary Plat Docket No. PZ-2021-00008 SW: UDO 6.09: 600 ft. Max. Cul-de-sac Length, 4,230 ft. requested Docket No. PZ-2021-00009 SW: UDO 7.26: Private Street Not Permitted, Private St. requested Docket No. PZ-2021-00010 SW: UDO 7.28: Min. 2 Access Points, only 1 Access Point requested
The applicant seeks primary plat approval and design standards waiver approval for 41 lots on 85 acres. The site is located at 10110 Ditch Road. It is zoned S-1/Residential. Filed by Brett Huff with Kimley-Horn on behalf of Gradison Design Build.
Brett Huff with Kimley-Horn presented the project. This project includes a new private, gated subdivision with forty lots with a minimum lot size of one acre featuring custom home designs. Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing - Mr. McCoy stated that the applicants would need to submit street names with him at a later date. Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation - Comments submitted on ProjectDox regarding the required path along Ditch Road per the Bike and Pedestrian Plan, missing sidewalk connection along the street entrance drive to the path, and a requested crosswalk at the first intersection. Rodney Johnson – Indianapolis Power & Light Co. - Mr. Johnson confirmed that a 4” conduit would need to be installed where the pipeline runs
through the subdivision. Mr. Johnson also noted concern for a home to the south of the subject site. Mr. Mark Gradison with Gradison Design Build confirmed that this estate in question would remain in place and in service during the development along with the clubhouse. Mr. Johnson inquired if
both structures would remain permanently. Mr. Gradison stated that the estate will not be relocated and that the plans for the clubhouse had not been determined at the time and could get demolished in the future. Mr. Johnson also inquired about the location of a possible trail on site. Mr. Gradison stated that the trail was requested per Mr. Littlejohn and the applicants would keep Mr. Johnson informed as they work through Mr. Littlejohn’s request.
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Sam Clark – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office - Mr. Clark stated that he had not submitted his comments on ProjectDox yet but inquired where the
outfall would be for the first section of the subdivision. Mr. Huff stated that the site would drain to the northeast of the site through a pond out to Ditch Road. Mr. Clark inquired if this infrastructure would be constructed with the first section of the subdivision. Mr. Huff confirmed that the would be connecting to the existing pond to the east which connects to Ditch Road. Mr. Clark stated that he would take a look at drainage calculations and submit his comments on ProjectDox. Alex Jordan – City of Carmel Engineering - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. Angie Conn – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - No comments. Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - No comments. Ms. Keesling deferred comments to Ms. Lopez. Alexia Lopez – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - Comments submitted on ProjectDox regarding open space and landscaping requirements. Mr.
Huff inquired about the two common areas along the entrance road requirement to be 75’ wide and 0.5 acres in size. Ms. Lopez stated this is a requirement only if these areas are counting toward open space requirements. Mr. Mindham stated that he would confirm this and thought that if the area is considered perimeter or bufferyard than the common area counts at 50%. Mr. Mindham stated that he thought the 75’ width was related to recreational open space but because this area was along the road it would be interpreted as perimeter bufferyard at 50% of the area at the width the road would require. Mr. Gradison inquired if there was a difference since the area was adjacent to a proposed private street instead of public right-of-way. Mr. Mindham stated he believed the 75’ width would remain. Ms. Lopez reminded the applicants that the common area would need to meet this width to be calculated into the required minimum open space area. Mr. Mindham confirmed that the area along Ditch Road would count as bufferyard but that farther back area would have to meet the 75’
width requirement. Mr. Huff stated that he was fearful of meeting the 25% open space required for the project and that a variance may need to be filed due to the minimum lot sizes of at least an acre. Ms. Lopez stated that this is a standard for new subdivisions in the subject zoning district. Ms. Lopez inquired about the programming and amenities of the common area (i.e., play equipment). Mr. Gradison stated that
the common area would be open green space and that the usable area would be surrounding the pond in a later section once the programming has been determined later on. Mr. Gradison stated the island green would remain with tee areas, a bocce ball set up, and a few fire pits – possibly a shelter. Mr. Gradison stated that the majority of the amenities would be housed within section two. Ms. Lopez recommended that if the common area to the west was not going to be usable with amenities, more trees could be planted, and a forest element could be introduced instead of an open grass area. Mr. Gradison stated that this area would be used for planting trees for mitigation on site if trees could not be saved elsewhere on site. Ms. Lopez requested additional information on the gate regarding height and distance from the intersection to meet the requirements outlined in the UDO like a bus pick-up/pull-off stop area as well as pedestrian and bicycle access through the site
even though the streets are gated. Ms. Lopez offered to schedule a meeting at a later date to discuss her comments in more detail.
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9:15 a.m. Docket No. PZ-2021-00006 TAC: Carmel High School Performing Arts Addition The applicant seeks administrative approval of an 18,240 sq. ft. building addition and minor site
modifications to the southeast corner of the site. The site is located at 520 E. Main St. It is zoned R2/Residence. Filed by Pete Rankovitch of TLF Engineers, on behalf of Carmel Clay Schools. Pete Rankovitch of TLF Engineers presented the project. This project includes an 18,000+ sq. ft. two-story, brick building addition to the southeast corner of the existing high school. The project also will replace an existing parking area in front of the building with an access drive for drop-off, fire access, and deliveries. Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing - No comments. Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. Sam Clark – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office - No comments. Alex Jordan – City of Carmel Engineering - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. Mr. Jordan stated he received a building permit review task for the loading dock foundation release at this site. Mr. Jordan inquired where on site the loading dock would be located. Mr. Rankovitch stated that the loading dock was not a part of the Performing Arts Building submission and is a part of a parking lot project. Ms. Conn showed the location of the proposed loading dock on the site plan. Mr. Jordan inquired if Mr. Rankovitch was involved in the loading dock project. Mr. Rankovitch stated that his company provided site plans as a part of a previous bid set. Mr. Jordan stated he would confer with the City Engineer regarding the
foundation release. Ron Farrand with Carmel Clay Schools stated that the loading dock project was on hold. Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - No comments. Angie Conn – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. Ms. Conn stated this addition will request a BZA variance for the building front yard setback as well.
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9:25 a.m. Docket No. PZ-2021-00012 TAC: Carmel Middle School Site Improvements The applicant seeks administrative approval of site improvements for vehicular and pedestrian
circulation. The site is located at 300 and 400 S. Guilford Rd. It is zoned R1/Residence. Filed by Ernso Brown of Fanning Howey, on behalf of Carmel Clay Schools. Brittany Heidenreich of TLF Engineers presented the project. This project includes site improvements at Carmel Middle School for vehicular and pedestrian circulation. The eastern parking lot proposes the removal of a center curb cut, a new median added within Guilford to remove a left turn lane, a new drop-off area created south of the existing curb cut, and enhanced pedestrian routes added from Guilford to serve the main entrance. Additional bike racks will be added on the eastern and northern sides of the school as well as improved circulation within the east and northern parking areas for vehicular drop-off. Additionally, a portion of missing sidewalk will be added to the western side of the building as well as a proposed right-in, right-out entrance west of the tennis courts to better facilitate
bus exiting and access to the southwest parking lot. Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing
- No comments. Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry
- No comments. David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. Sam Clark – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office - No comments. Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - No comments. Angie Conn – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. 9:30 a.m. Docket No. PZ-2021-00014 TAC: Islamic Life Center Construction Plans
The applicant seeks administrative approval of construction plans related to the prior BZA Special Use approvals. The site is located at 14120 Shelborne Rd. It is zoned S1/Residence. Filed by Marcus Jackson of The Veridus Group, Inc. on behalf of the Al Salam Foundation.
Marcus Jackson of The Veridus Group, Inc. presented the project. This project includes a worship center with parking, detention, utilities, and landscaping. Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing - No comments. Daren Mindham – City of Carmel Urban Forestry - Comments were made on ProjectDox regarding tree spacing. David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation
- Comments submitted on ProjectDox regarding sidewalk connection on the south side of the building to the path, bike rack locations, and path connections to the intersection.
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Sam Clark – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office - Mr. Clark stated that he had not submitted his comments on ProjectDox yet but inquired about the
overall outfall of the project. Mr. Jackson stated that the proposed outlet flows the majority of the site to the dry detention basin on the south side and outletting from there to an existing manhole to the west. Mr. Clark stated that this should be fine as long as the outlet if verified with the proper capacity for the new structure and offered to send the Mr. Jackson the drainage calculations. Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - No comments. Angie Conn – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - Comments submitted on ProjectDox. Mr. Jackson inquired about obtaining the plans and drainage report for the property to the west and east. Mr. Clark confirmed he would send these documents
over to Mr. Jackson. Christopher McCoy of McCoy Architects LLC. inquired about bike rack placement. Mr. Littlejohn stated that the Unified Development Ordinance requires bike parking to be located within 50’ of the main entrance of the building and that the racks can be dispersed
between multiple entrances for convenience and that the requirement had existed since the Bike Ordinance went into effect in approximately 2005. 9:40 a.m. Docket No. PZ-2021-00198 DP/ADLS: Yellow Dog Veterinary Clinic at Legacy The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new veterinary office. The site is located at approximately 7325 E. 146th Street between Community Drive and Beallsville Drive. It is zoned PUD (Legacy Z-501-07.) Filed by Ashton Fritz of Fritz Engineering Services, LLC, on behalf of Dr. Stanley of Yellow Dog Veterinary Clinic. Ashton Fritz of Fritz Engineering Services, LLC. presented the project. This project includes a 5,970 sq. ft. veterinary clinic with 24 parking spaces located within the Legacy development between Hopewell Parkway and E 146th Street. Dave McCoy – City of Carmel Addressing - Mr. McCoy stated that the address provided for this business would be 7325 E. 146th Street. David Littlejohn – City of Carmel Alternative Transportation - Comments submitted on ProjectDox regarding location of bike parking and missing sidewalk
connection on the eastern side of the entrance drive to provide a full sidewalk connection along the property’s frontage. Sam Clark – Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office - Mr. Clark stated physical plans needed to be submitted to his office as well as an outlet permit. Rachel Keesling – City of Carmel Planning & Zoning - Ms. Keesling inquired about the design of the peaked overhang for the building. Mr. Peter Winters of Cooler Design, Inc. confirmed that the design was being revised to an older version. Ms. Keesling stated reverting back to the previous overhang design was alright. Additionally, Ms. Keesling found the architecture of the proposed building beautiful with amazing brick detailing. Mr. Littlejohn warned the applicants that the bike racks shown on the architectural renderings of the building do not comply with the City’s Ordinance that requires an inverted U or A rack and referenced the applicants to Section 5.29 of the Unified Development Ordnance.