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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 04-18-01 .~ ~ Our Lady of Mount Carmel (Special Use Amendment) The site is located on the southwest corner of East 146th Street and Oak Ridge Road. The site is zoned S-lIresidence. Filed by Charles R. Stafford of C. R. Stafford & Associates for Our Lady of Mount Carmel. Dick Stafford, C. R. Stafford & Associates, introduced the following individuals: Bill Snodgrass, Musset, Nicholas & Associates, Inc. mechanical and electrical engineers on the job, Dan Kuester, DlK., site/civil design, Scott Schutz, Eden Enterprises, Inc., Attorney Paul Reis, Ken Remenschneider, Remenschneider Associates, landscape architect, and Glen Ritchey, Our Lady ofMt. Carmel. Mr. Stafford cited the church location at 146th Street, which is being rerouted, and Oak Ridge Road. The existing church is two levels with 10,000 square feet per level. The shaded area represents the addition which wraps the building on both the east and southeast. The addition will also have two levels to match the exiting floor levels. Monsignor Duncan stated in an early meeting the plan for a new expanded narthex, a new chapel, handicap accessible restrooms and elevators, and meeting rooms. The addition will total 9,600 square feet per floor. The zoning is S2 residential. A special use variance is required because the addition will exceed more than ten percent of the existing structure. Plans for landscaping and lighting were submitted. There have been preliminary meetings. John South asked if T AC was reviewing the total site plan or phases of construction. Mr. Stafford responded there is a complication on the site relating to the relocation of 146th Street. The activity north of 146th Street falls under Westfield's jurisdiction. All work south of 146th Street is construction of the building. John South stated one plan shows grading and a detention pond in northeast corner. Dan Kuestner stated that Schneider Engineering sized the basin as part of the overall plan. He has collected the roof run off and delivered it properly to the pond. Glen Ritchey hopes the parking lot will be done in conjunction with the pond. Bill Snodgrass believes when they are ready to run drainage from the roof out to the basin, the pond will be there. Dick Stafford stated the plans are for construction to begin mid summer. Work will be for a duration of 10 to 12 months. The road work might start sooner. The petitioners included the area north of 146th Street on the plans to give Carmel a better sense of the site. Dick Hill had no comments. Sharon Prater met with Schneider Engineering regarding the entrance off Oak Ridge Road that needs to be shifted. She cannot allow a detention area to be inside their easement. Ms. Prater asked that realignment of driveway be reflected accurately and revision of the pond be shown. The curb cut on Oak Ridge Road loops deeper and falls on their easement. Ms. Prater stated the intersection, however, is not placed between the pipelines. The drawings will be updated. The parking summary count indicates a total of 445 but they show a count of 395 spaces. The petitioner is in the plus category. S: \ T echnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes \tac200 1 apr 15 Laurence Lillig said John Lester asked him to mention the need for sidewalks along Oak Ridge Road. Paul Reis inquired if this was a request or requirement. Mr. Lillig did not know; he will speak with Mr. Lester. The sidewalk would be installed on the westside. Thejipeline makes this an issue. Currently, the church is using the address of 1045 West 146 Street. The original address for Mt. Carmel was 1045 West Gray Road. Gray Road was addressed off the Carmel grid. Over the years, the use of Gray Road as the common name has fallen away. By having a 1000 block address along West l46th Street presents a conflict with what is actually the 1000 block of West l46th Street one mile to the west. This property is actually East l46th Street. The line for east and west carries straight north from Meridian Street where the by pass curves. Our Lady of Mt. Carmel falls to the east of where the line intersects with l46th Street. Their address conflicts with l46th Street farther south. A meeting is planned to discuss that problem. The church will probably get a new address. Paul Reis thinks Oak Ridge Road might be a better address and Bill Snodgrass agreed. The school uses the address of 1047 West l46th Street. That address will need to change also. Steve Cash needs to verify the drainage calculations. He will write a letter. Scott Brewer received plans but has not written a letter. The area north of 1 46th Street has been approved by the Town of Westfield. There is no buffer landscaping on the south side of the property next to the rectory and the playground. The Pipeline Company and the Church would prefer to maintain visual/physical open access to the rectory rather than a buffer. From the centerline of Oak Ridge Road, there is a 50-foot right of way setback and a 35-foot front yard setback from that point. Scott Brewer thinks there should be an opportunity to landscape there. The petitioner needs to find other areas for landscaping because of these reductions. John South asked for an erosion control plan that covers the total site work. The jurisdiction is not an issue because he represents Hamilton County. The entire plan needs to be approved before the project starts. The petitioner believes the plan has already been submitted to Westfield for the north side. Jeff Kendall is working on some building issues and will continue to stay in contact. Gary Hoyt spoke to Dick Stafford. Both levels of the addition will be sprinkled. The petitioner has agreed to utilize the existing path. A Knox box exists. Sprinkler cap applications are available from Gary Hoyt's office. Another fire hydrant might be added in the future. Bill Snodgrass agreed to meet with him to work out those possible locations. Bill Akers stated all of his address concerns were covered by Mr. Lillig. Jon Dobosiewicz asked if the parking would be curbed. Dick Stafford does not know. There are portions of their parking lot outside of Carmel. There is a new parking area that is south of l46th Street. Mr. Dobosiewicz stated Carmel requires parking lots to be curbed but does not stipulate the type of curbing. He strongly suggests curbing to S:\ T echnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac200 1 apr 16 .. . improve the parking lot. Jon Dobosiewicz thinks the effect may be awkward if curbing is terminated outside of the Carmel jurisdiction. Dick Stafford stated the curb configuration will be defined by stripping. The lanes will also be defined by striping. Mr. Dobosiewicz thinks this may be an issue as strips over asphalt do not provide traffic control. This might become a hazard. Laurence Lillig asked if their sign will be moved up when the 1 46th intersection is realigned. There are no plans to do so at this time. Mr. Lillig believes there may be some outstanding issues on signage if the sign remains at the present location. Steve Broermann left the T AC meeting earlier. He asked if the passing lane will be extended to provide for a blister at the proposed entrance. There will be a decellane and passing blister. S: \ T echnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac200 1 apr 17 ..~ ., Carmel/Clay Technical Advisory Committee Minutes April 18, 2001 9:00 a.m. Members present: Laurence Lillig - Carmel DOCS Scott Brewer - Carmel Urban Forester Steve Cash - Ham. Co. Surveyor Dick Hill- Carmel Eng. Steve Broermann - Ham. Co. Highway Jeff Kendall- Carmel Permit Services Jon Dobosiewicz - Carmel DOCS Jim Foster - Carmel Fire Dept. S:\ TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac200 1 apr John South - Ham. Co. Soil & Water Chuck Shupperd - Indiana Gas John Lester - Carmel Parks Gary Hoyt - Carmel Fire Dept. Bill Akers - Carmel Communications Rick McClain - Cinergy Sharon Prater -Panhandle E. Pipeline 1