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Home My WebLink AboutCorrespondence W NELSON . U & FRANKENBERGER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATI'ORNEYS-AT-LAW JAMESJ.NELSON CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER JAMES E. SHlNAVER LAWRENCE J. KEMPER of counsel JANE B. MERRILL 3021 EMf 98th STREET SUITE 220 INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA 46280 317-844-0106 FAX: 317-846-8782 December 13,2001 ~12-;"f-.... -:''\. \J,-J.:.:.'-LJ / ~ ,y -',( -c) ~ eiy / "~l ttl ~ ~IC $ t;~ ;;:1 . {2> ~h .- 7.1 t>a /? <t.,~ (~';I =J t:'O t7 jl--...: \~~~ v ~ /0':' / V/\. ,.(C;~y V" /^' 'I V,').-....... ~\ ,/ ~, I )"'r--oc~-~- \ /,J,// '-.j 1"\ '/ -.....-'::!- Laurence M. Lillig Carmel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Carmel IN 46032 Re: Dan Young Chevrolet - Monument Sign Dear Laurence: Enclosed is the recorded Consent to Encroach, signed by the owner. I think paragraph #4 states the agreement by specifying, basically, that the City has the right to remove the sign and that, should the City remove the sign, it will not incur any obligation to repair, replace, or reimburse the owner. Please give me your thoughts. Thanks. Very truly yours, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER c'-- Charles D. Frankenberger CDF/jlw H:\Janet\Dan Young Chevy\Lil1ig Itr 12130Lwpd SEP-18-2001 11:55 W NELSON FRANKENBERGER Q 3178468782 P.02/11 NElSON & FRANKENBEROER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATTORNEVSATLAW IN'E1i J. I"lELSON aiARI.ES D. FRANKENBER<JER JAMES Eo SHlNAveR LARRY J. KEMPER JOHN B. FLATT FRED R1C LAWREl'tCE OF COUNSEL JAI"lE B. MERRIll. J021 EAST 98TH STREET saTE 220 INDIANAPOLIS. Il'IDlANA 46280 317-844-0106 FAX: 317-846-8782 September 17,2001 VIA FACSIMILE: S71~2426 Laurence M. Lillig Carmel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Cannel IN 46032 Re: Dan Young Chevrolet ~ Docket Nos. V -77-01 through V ~89-01 Dear Laurence: Enclosed you will find a copy of your letter of grant dated August 28.2001 in regard to the above-referenced matter. The only question I have pertains to Docket No. V -89-0 1. Your letter of grant indicates that the approved sign is 72 square feet in size. Enclosed I have provided you a copy of the minutes for this matter. Page 8 of the minutes indicates that the approved size of the sign was actually 122.4 square feet. I was hoping you could please revise your letter of grant and send a copy both to AI Young and myself. Finally. I am almost finished compiling the approval compendium for the various approvals for this project. We still need to appear before the Board of Public Works to obtain some final approvals. When this is done. I will send you a copy of the approval compendium for your file. Should you have any questions, please call. Very truly yours, NELSON" FRANKENBERGER JESljlw Enclosure H:\l-'Dln YOUDlI Otewy\lJllla br09I70I.wpd SEP-18-2001 11:55 . W NELSON FRFlNKENBERGER o 3178468782 P.03/11 '. - i CITY OF CARMEL DEPARTMENT OF coMMUNITY SERVICES Division ofPlamUng" Zoning LET T E R of G RAN T 28 August 2001 Alan V. Young Dan Y ouns Chevrolet 3210 East 96111 Street Indianapolis, IN 46240 Re: Dan Young Chsvrolet D,lJ,lopwumral Standards JfarfQn~'.J (V.77-01rhrough V-89.0J) Yiaf= (317/814-4497) & US Mail Dear Mr. Young, At the meetinS held July 23. 2001t the CmneVCIay Board of Zoning Appeals took the following action repding petitions filed by Charles D. prankenberser of Nelson" Frankenberger on behalf of Dan Young Chevrolet; APPROVED: Docket No, V-,'-Gl, a peti1ion to VII)' S~. 7.01-2: DejildtlDnl . '/'rqfftc Directional Sign of1he Sign ()rtI;ruana in order to eabUsh ~ 18.58-tquare.foot TrafJ1c Direeticmal Sign. The Board voted four (4) in mvor, zero (0) opposed, therebY apProving the petition. APPROVED; Dockel No. V-78..o1) a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Dejlniltons . Tnzjftc Directional Slp of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 4' 10" Trame Directional Sign. The Baud voted four (4) in favor, zerO (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-79-tll, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01..2: DeJlniti01l8 - Trqffic Directio1lQ/ Sign of the Sip Ordinance in order to establish an 18.SS-square-foot Traffic Diredicmal Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approvins the petition. APPROVED: Docket Na. V-80-01. a petition to VII)' Section 25.7.01-2: DefinitiON - Traffic Dfr(lctiOllal Sign of the Sign OrdinanCe in order to penmt a 4' 10" Traffic Direwonal SiJD.. !he Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V..al-Ol, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: D'finitions - TmJIic Directional Sip of me Sign Ordinance in order to establish an 18.S8-square-foot Tmftic Directional Sian. The Board voted fo\ll' (4) in favor. zero (0) opposed. thmby approving the petition. ~. ,...-.. SEP-18-2001 11:56 -----.., . . ONELSON ~NBERGt::fo< o 3178468782 P.04/11 Page 2 Docket Nos. V-7?-Ol flu-ouCh V-89...o1 APPROVED: Docket No. V-82-01, a petitioD to vary Secnon 2$,7.01-2: Dljlnltknu - TTaffic DirecnDI'IlII Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 4' 1 0" TrafIi~ Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor~ zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V..83~l, a petition to vary Section 25. 7.01-2.' Deflnltiol'll - frqjfic DlncdDnal Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order tc establish an 18.58-square-foot Traffic Directional Sian. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approviD8 the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-84-01, a petition to VBI)' S,ctiOIl 25.7.01.2: DejintJiollS - Trqlfi, Directional Sign ofttle Sign OrdinaDee in order to pmnit a 4' 10" Traffic Dir=tioJW Sign. The: Board voted four (4) in favor. zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. . APPROVED with Commmaents: Docket No. V-8S-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-4(1) of the Sian Ordinance in orcier 10 permit 811 Identific:ati~n Sign to encroach Into the East g(}ft Street 7S-foot half right-of-way. The Board voted four (4) In favor~ zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition with the following Commitment, which is to be rendered i4 writing by your attorney and submitted to the Board's anomey for review prior to recording: · If at any time ill the fUture the sign is required to be moved. the relocation of the sign will be accomplished at the property owner's expense, and the City or any successor UDit of government will not be held in any way ltable. APPROVED: Docket No. V~l~ a petition to vary Secti01l ]5.7.02.7(b): Number &: 7)1pe of the Sign Orciina=e in order to establish Db3e (9) Identitlcatiol1 Signs on site. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-87..o1, a petition to varj SectiolJ ]S.7.02-7(c)(ii): MtUlmfIIn Sign Area oftbe Sip OrdilUlDce in order CO permit a lOS-SQuare-fool Identification Sip. The Board voted four (4) in favor. zero (0) opposed, thereby approviq the petltion. APPROVED: Docket No. V-Ss.ol. a petition to vary SectiolJ 25.7.02-7(c)(ii): Mtl%imum Sfgn h,a of the Sign Ordinance in orc!er to permit a 10S-square-foot Identification Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor. mo (0) opposed. thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Dotket No. V.s'.Ol. a pet!lion to vary S.ction 2S.1.02-7(c)(ll): MaimJlm Sip Area of the Sip Ordinance in order 10 pezmit a 72-squarewfoot Identification Sip. The Boant voted four (4) in favor~ zero (0) opposed, thereby approvin, the petition. Onee recorded. forward two (2) eoJIies of the Commitmems to this Deparlment for inclusion in the file. The Division of PlaD.ning &: ZoninS will not release the propeny for sign pellDi1ting until this aspect of the Board's approval has been satisfied. When applying for Sign Permits for this structure, please include a copy of tbilletter 'with your application materials in. order to assist the Department's review. If I can be otanyfUnher assistance, please do Dot hesitate to contact me at 317.571.2417. SEP-18-2001 11:56 .... -r-...-'. ~NELSON FRANKENBERGER o 3178468782 P. 05/11 Page 3 Docket NOI. V-77.01 through v-e.O! Sincerely~ t1 de!::i /l-. Laurence M. Lillis, Jr. Planning &; ZeniAg Administrator Department of Community Services Cc: JeftKendall~ DOCS, Building Commissioner Dawn PattyD, DOCS, Sign Pennit Review Charles D. Frankenberger of Nell on " Frankenberger (fax: 311/846-8782) SEP-18-2001 11:56 ONELSON FRFlNKENBERGER o 3178468782 P. 06/11 r ,.. CITY OF CARMEL AND CLAYTOWNSBIP BOARD or ZONING APPEALS roLY 33. 2001 . \J1es tJt~ ff'C'~\.. \JNO The Rplatly scheduled meeting of the Boan! afZoniq Appeall met at 7:00 PM U1 the Council Chamben otCityHBll. Cmmcl, Indiauaon lu1y23. 2001. Themeetmg opened with the 1>1edge of Allegiance. MembetS present were: Leo Dierckman (late mival); Michael Mabr; Pit RiCBj and C18rles Weimcauf. Michael P. Holh'bau&h, Ditector olDepadD1ent of CommUDity Services, lOA Dobosiewict. and. Laurence LiDia were also in a~"An~e. The minutes of the lune meeting were approved as submltted. 101m Molitor, Counselt reported that the Board had met in Executive Session prior to tonight's meeting to dis~s pend.il1g litilatlcm. 10m Molitor oalled attmtion to all Oxd.h1ance Amendment that is in the process ofbeiq fo!warded to the City Cau11cil by the Plan Commission. One otthe items for . conridera.tiO!l in miewiq Special Uso or Special Exception Applications is the need for lifeguards in respect to recreadOD81 tac:ilities. AIlather section would allow the Board to require appropriate fencing md cammitzDent$ that necessary lifeguard protection be provided at aU times when I swjl1)ft'tiftg pool is open for use whm a swimmhtl pool is pemlitted IS part ofa Special U.e Approval. In addition, the altemate proced.ure for Developmental Stazldards Variances is also i21c1uded. i11 the Amendments. If sppnmc:1, the Plan Commission would have the risht to appoiDt one or more memba oithe Board to BetVe as a hearing office' and to have a streamline process for minor Development Sundards Variances. In liaht oftbe amendment regarc1.ins 1ifeauards anI! nvimmillg pool8, the Board may want to COILiider TABLING Agenda item 2i. until the Baud has .had an opportUrdty to SDe . what sort of reaction the City Council may have to the Ordinauce Amen<J~~ proposed by the Plan Commissicm. . Thete is also a provisicm in the Amend=ent that would allow model homes to be pemitted as a temporary uso by the Director of the Department ofCommUDity Saviees for up ta 1 B months at a. timl: with 3, sbt.month extecsioDS allowed for a total 0136 mcnths. If that Amendment would go rorNUd, it would obViate 1hB variances proposed as A;eAda items lh through 9h because model homes could be pcmitted directly by the Din:ctor rather than JOiDg through the Board. .:'ioardo~\MmutBs\bzaZOO1jul 1 rt,,,' "c 11~ 'Q~ ~~~ sot\S kll\IDUt,\OO 13~llldO ~Ii ca\l ~ '2.\ \-\Ou \OO'2.-Q'2.-tm\J SEP-18-2001 11:56 , t. " ONELSON FRANKENBERGER o 3178468782 P.07/11 \ 2000. A1. that time, the Board requested architeeturaI design be reviewed by the PIan CommissiOA. The p,titiODer'. ~ is based on aesthetios Dot directly related to use. As i put of the review proees$, the actual buUdiDa materla.1s were specified as pm of approval and amettdJ:nent. The cbange ofmatedals will not .impact lilY of25 criteria items for special use; rmew, DOl' will the smroundiDa use be affected. ped.esUian IUd vehicular traffic will not be atrected by chmgc ofmateria1s. . The petitioner is in receipt of the Department R.eport-the Board has requested met the petitioner bas agreed to submit to Plan Commission architectural review. However, B-3 zoninJ does not requiTe that approva1~ MemOers of the public were invited. to speak in fa.vor or oppositicm to the petition; no ODe Ippeared and the public hearing 'WaS closed. Samples of ft1IttI:tWl Weft broupt to the meetiDr; however, because oftha weight of the items, they coWd ODty be viewed. fi'om the parking lot. The members took a short recess to view the materials and will retum to tU Chambera for a. vote. . Pat Rice moved tor approval ofSUA-76-01, To. O'BrieD Chrysler, seconded by Michael Mohr, APPROVED 3-0. Note: At this poi1ttt Leo Dlerckma"jomed tlls meeting I1t P1'(Jgt'ell. ___ ---, lSR3Oh. Du Youg Chevrolet (V-77-Gl; VR'1S-Gl; V..19-01;V..so..ol; V. / 81-01; V-n-Gl; V~3-o1; V-84..01; V..85.01j V-86-01; V-87-01; V..s8-01; V..a9..(1) Petitioner Slela Developmental StaDc1azds Variances ofthB following Sections of the Sien Ordi:r:Lance; V...77.()l 25.7.01-2: Tra1!1c Directicmal Siga 18.11..[l.}traftic directioaal siID. V-78-01 25.7.01-2: Traffic DirectiomU Sign 4JI0" tratlic directional sign V.79-01 25.7.01-2: Tratfic Directional Sign 18.11Rrl] traffic clireetiODal sip V-80-01 25.7.01-2: TrafHcDirectional Sip V-81-01 25.7.01-2: Traf!c Directional Sisn V-B2-01 25.7.01-2: Traflic Dlrectioul Sip V-83-01 25.7.01-2: TrafBcDfrecticmal Sip V-84.-01 25.7.01-2: Tra1!cDi:rccti.oDa1 Sign V -85-01 25.7 .Ol-4(i) Prohibited Sip Idemti&cation SiID cmcroacbmg in r-o-'W V.86-01 2S.7.02.7(b) Number & Type 9 Identification Sip V..87~1 2S.7.02-7(c (n) Maximum Sign Area 104 square footIdentificati.oD. SilD V-B8-Ol 25.7.02-7(c (ii) Maximum Sign Area 104 square root Identification Sign V-89-01 25.7.02-7(c (ii) Maximum Sip Area: 122.4 square foot Identification Sign The site is located at 3210 East 9(/1' Street. The site is zoned B-3lBusiness m4 is located partially within the SR 431 /KI:y'&toD.e Avenue Overlay Zone. ' Filed by Charles D. Prankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger for Dan Young Chevrolet ':\Boarda1ZoDiDgAppeaJ.s\MfDults\na2001jul 5 Q~/~e 'J ~7.b7. tlg LiE 'ON Xij~ SOhS klmOl,lUOO 13l,\~\)O \\d ~~~(,\ ~o\.\ \QOG-OG~n'O SEP-18-2001 11:57 ONELSON FRFlNKENBERGER (.) 3178468782 Chatlie Fr&D1ceI1berger, 4983 St. Charles Place, Catmel sppellld bercn the Board representing the Umtecl Auto Group in connection with its various requests to l'ClOYate the". Youns Cat dealership located in the northeast q1.18draDt of'XC~D.e Avenu.e md ~ Saet Also present this evening were Ai Young. and Chuck Cotterman, architeot. The petition.ers request is for Developmental Standards variaDce lor sipp only an the Dm Youug Chevrolet site located at 3210 East 96* Street. . At the time Special Use Approval was presented in IUDe, the petitioner indicated that the entire site would be miewed. by the PlaI1 Co~iuicm for ADLS approval; the petitioner 'Would. then mum to the Board for approVal of sign manees. The Special Use Approval was ~ 8Dd the Plan Comn);U;oD approved the ADLS application for the ctire site, including sigDage. 'I'hi& eveaing. the petiuoneI is requesting Deve1opmenta1 Stmdards variances for signap only on this site. ...'" The Orouud Sign will be located at the entrance to the site along 96G1 Street. The mouumcmt sign ili concrete block m4 !FIS; the letters are blue in color md m-=ally i1l~2~ Two variauces are needed tor the monument sip1; one for the encroat".hmeut in the right-of:.way (V -8S~1) and one for tbe number of sips (1 of9, V -86-(1). There are 4 directional siPsi the variances are for height at size, (V-77-01 through V -84- 01). The signs are 4 feet 10 blebel, _ eacl1 one is 18 square feet. The directional sip consist of 4 iDtema1 to the site, intemJl1y nturninated panel sip with an off..white faA;e I11d blue intemal1y illuminated lettet$. ~!tame wip be blue aluminum. Lanreftce Lilli. &imp1Uled the 4 dhecticmals. each sign requires two variances, one for blight and one for sign ate&. Under the 0rdiDmce, traffic direWonal sigDlilrC limitecS to 3 square feet for area md 3 feet in height. Memben of the public wm invited to speak in favor or opposition to V -77..01 through V-84-01. No one appeared and the public bearing was closed. on these dockets. DepartmeJlt Report. Lawe.acc Lillig. The Depanment is recommending fAvorable consider&ti.on of these petitions. Although the directicma1 sips are larset than pozmitted under the Ordinance, they 8R lo"ted on site in such a mmner that they 1Wil1 only be readily visible 011 the subject property. 1'n other words, their impact on the cammumty is negliglble. due to the practica11nvisibility. Pat Rice moved for approval of Docket Nos. V.'7'7-o1 throllp. V.84-01, 4 direcdollal sips, for Dill Y01lDg Chevrolet, seconded by Leo Dierc1a:um APlROVED 4.0. Charles Weinkauf queatloaed Laurence LilUg about the merel1ce in the Department Report to a number or siSD violations on the Dan Young si~ that m\l$t 'be remedied prior to the Department isBUinS bF permits far any &ipse approved by the Board at tbis meeting. .:\BoardofloniJl.BAppca1a\Miw..\~1ju1 P.08/11 \ \ 6 n~~7 TI~ 11~ 'nN ~~~ 'SOl\S hllM{\\.1I,lO~ 13'w\ll~O ~d e~ IZ\ ~O\l \Oo?'-OG-'Jn'd .. I SEP-18-2001 11:57 ONELSON FRANKENBERGER o 3178468782 P. 09/11 f . f Laurcce LilliS ~ that Cmrell.tly, there are a numb.. of flaBs flying 011 site as we11as a number of existID& traffic directional sips that are attacb.e4 to poles on the site to the Ught standards. These sip also blow in the wind and are prohibited uuder tho OIdfnance. Tho buildir1g in the northeast comer oftbe pi'opmy has s~ identification sigDa 011 it that d.o not have pemtits and would. also have required ~eI for the number of sips. n is understood that these sips are to be removed prior to the issuance ot sip. pcrmit&. . After coDfetriDg with his client Charlie FrllDkenberpr said that ift.aurec.ce would visit the site within the next 7 days and point out the lips that are in violatiOllt they will be remove4. Charlie FrmkeDberger then desorlbed the monument sigtt. V -85-01. This sign consists of CODcrete masam, units. The north ha1f' of 9t- S=t next to the Dm Young site, ist in part, 50 feet, and in put 60 feet. The Thoroushfare PlaD ca11!i fbr a wideDins to 75 feet a!1Cl the p81itioner bas agreecJ to make that dedicatlon. When that i& done, the siga encroaches. The petitiO:&18t will be appeadDg before the Board ofPub~ Works to obtain .) a CoDSent to E.acro&chme.at. If the sip is required to be removed at the time 96th Street is widened, the pctitiOl\el' will do so at his expense. Lalnnce Lillis said the sign, where proposed. would be approximalety 10 feet from tb centerline of 9611I Street. In its proposecllocation, the sign will straddle the right-ofwWB)' line, partially on site and partially within the rlSht..of~ay. Members of the public were invited to speak in f'awr Or opposition to V.SS-Ol; no ODe appeared and the public heariDI '\VIS closed on tbis Docket DepattmeDt lleport, Lammcc Wg. The DepartmeDt i6 recommending favorable cousidetatioD, conditioned upon a commitmeJ1t from the petitioner that he wi11 temave the sip at any mture date at petitioner's expense, and the City or any successor \U1it of govemment will not be held liable. Leo Diere1cma:a moved for approval of Docket V-8S-01, Idqtifieation sip eacroacJililg in right-of-way, seconded by Michael Mohr. APPllOVED 4-0. Note: The petitioner has entered into a written commitment to remove! pole signs on site, predicated. on the approval of the sip package this eveaing and out of defemlCe for Cume1ts desizeto eUminatepole sign&. Charlie frazaker1berger described. the signage 011 the main bui1diA& will comprise a Dm Young sign and Chevrolet logo on the southem aDd westem elevations on the buiJ.cliDl. These sip win be blue, intema11yilluminated.Itis noted ttw the sign IIBa is actually 104 feet. Members oftbc public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to V-87..01 or V.8S. 01: DO one appeared and the public beadDI was closed. '8:\I~\MJzN1ls\bzl2001ju1 1 -- .. - .. a7b7 'I~ )l~ 'Q~ ~~~ SOt\S klmn~QO 13W'fO ~d e~:G\ NO'" \GOG-Ql-~tW SEP-18-2001 11 : 58 uNELSON FRANKENBERGER 31 ?8468782 u DeplltmelLt Report, Laurence Lilli.. The DepartD1ent is recommending favorable coDSidmtiOD for idctlflcatioll sips that are larger than are pezmittecl for speeial use. - . . Pat Rice movecl Cor the approval ofDoeket No. V-87-01l1Dd V-88-01, maximum sip area 0(104 feet, seeonded by Michael Mohr. APPROVED 4-0. Charlie F~ displayed the pre-ownecl buildiDg DD the overhead. the sipge on the south olevatiOD will be lID internally illuminated, blue. Dan Young md logo. The size will be 122.4 square feet. The "Certifioc1" or "UsedJ' sip 'WI5 chaDpcl to say "Bn1rmce Only." The variance for Docket No. V..s9-o1 is tor the Dan YOutlg and the logo. 1'bis builtfil\g is located cla_t.to 96th Street and receiving the Dew surtace of conerete masoD1'Y uaits BD.d syldhetie stucco. .... Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; DO cme appeared. and the public htadDg wu closed. Department Report, LaureDC8 Lillig. The Depar1mmt is recormne.uU,,& favorable ccmsideration of this petiti~_ __.. .___ Pat Rioo moved for ~'w of V -8J-Ol, a 122.4sqQaR t IdentffiatloJl Sip, seconded by Miehae1 Mohr. 'l Charlie p~pn1lerger meued to the remaimq S sips, two of which are on the main building. The Entrance Sign was mansed from Showroom Bntrmce to Entrance; the Service Sip has blue, intemaJJ.y mumiDated lettm. The "'Entrmee" sign is 8.8 square feet, and the Service sign is 8.8 square feet. ' Members at the public wae invited. to speak in favor or oppositicm to Docket No. V..8G- 01; DO one appealed and the public heariDJ WIll closecl Department Report, Laurence Lillig. lbe DlpartmCDt is rec:ommendiDg favorable consideration of this petition. Three of the signs are oriented internally, the Service sip and the two Entrance sips. The other six lip are direetional, and the Depll1mer1t has 120 objection. Leo Dierckmm zDoved for the approval of Docket No. V-86--01 for number II1d ~9 Identification Siglll, seccmdecl by Pat Rice. APPROVBD 4-0. Heard out ot Sequcce: Item iSh. St. ElizBhethAml SetollParish (SUA-74.-01) Petitioner seeks Special Use Amendment ~va1 in order to cxpmd the parldn,lot md pzovide access to But 106 Street The site is located at 10655 Haverstick load. Tho site is zoned S. tJR.esidence. Piled by Charles D. FraDkeabcrger of Nelson " Prankeuhqer for The Roman CathoUo Diocese ofLafayetteo.in-JndiADa... .:\BostdafZo~~\hza2001jul P. HY11 \ 8 ^~~~ 11r. 11C '~~ ~~ so~s >J.l\-U\~\\QO 1~\J~ ~a OS~(.\ ~O\l 'OOG-o(.-~n~ . . SEP-18-2001 11:58 u 3178468782 P.ll/ll (..)NELSON FRANKENBERGER , ~ between Borden and. 1 USth Street, (Maca:oDi Grlll) there ii a c1istiDet lack of\'is1"bility for signage. Th8 sian that wu presen.ted was 181 square feet in size, 821d has received approval of the PlaD Commission as to Architectural DesigD.. A mlderi:a.g of the sign was displayec1. The Plan CommissiOD requested the dark blue bac1cground, and. this is computed m the dimeDSi.OI1S of the sip. Mr. Nelson met with the Department iD an attempt to reach a consensus regarding the sign. An alternative was presented and Ii being offered as an amendment to the varia.nc.e request-a sign, exactly lib the CIne preccted, ODly imIller. The 5ize PIOposed, ISO square feet. would include the blue back8rOu.nd, howewr, the rectaup1ar area of the text ._ statin, "Borden" is 93 sq\1ll'C feet in size, within the size permitted. by the Sign 'ordinance. Last 2nonth, the Board approved the b1elusion of''BordersJl 011 the ground sian at AM Way and 116* Street. A commitmeat was tendered to the Department which stated that the inclusion of Borders on the ground sign would be included as one of the three signs Borden is permitted. The net result is that there are only two signs permitted on the Borders Bookstore one of the !lorth elevation, ad alle on the west, a total of three signs, one of which is the i21clusion of'1iorders" on the gromd sign. Members of the publi& were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared 81I.d the public heari:q was closed. Department Report, LaurcIlce Lillig. On JUl'lC 29,2001, the petiticmer's represca.tat1vc met with the Deputmct to present a revised. design. The amended de$lip. of the sip. resulted in III overall sip. area oflSl.42 square feet, the dimeasions beiD.g 26.4 X S.9. The text area on the amended sign measures 93.28 square feet, 23.9 ~ X 5.9,1es8 than the maximum square rODtage permitted for an identiflcatiDn sip in this location, 9S square feet. The Department is recommel1diag !llgative consideration of V -70-01. Leo Dierckman moved tor the approva1 orv -7()"()1, Borders Bookstore, Lot 5, Merdlots' Polnte. seconded by Pat Rice. APPROVED 4-0. There being no fUrther business to come before the Boud, the meeting was adjoume4 at 10:00 PM. Charles WeUlkauf, PresideDt Ramona Hmcock, Secteta:y s:\B~\Mintes~OOljul 11 . __._......_.... __'Inn,,;.. ", nt',"';)'t \Jt\\, 1nn?_n7-nn'\ol TOTAL P. 11 SEP-18-2001 11:55 uNELSON FRFlNKENBERGER NElSON & FRANKENBERCiER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION A1TORNEYS AT LAW u 3178468782 P.01/11 . JAMES J. NE1..SClN CHARLES D. FIWlKENBERQER JNItS!S E. SHINAVER LARRY J. KEMPER JOHN B. FlATT FRED RIC VlWRENCE OF COONS!\. JANE B. MERRILL 3021 !AST 98TH STijEer suITt 220 INDIANAPOus, INDIANA 462BO 317-844-0106 FAX: 311.846-8782 FAX TRANSMISSION COVER SHEET Date: September 18, 2001 Company: Laurence M. LOllg Carmel DOCS To: Fax: 571-2426 From: James E. Shinaver Phone: 317-844-0106 Pages: 11 (including cover sheet) GPmments; Re: Dan Young Chevrolet - Docket Nos. V-77-01 through V-89-01 .***********..................................................................** The infonnation \':ontained in tI'Iis facSimile message Is Intended only for the use of the indh,idual or entity named above. If the reader or recipient ofthls message Is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent of the intended l'Cl:ipient who is responsible for delivering It to the Intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination. distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this c:ommul'lication in error, please notifY us by telephone (collect) and return the otiginal message to us 81 the above Indicated address via the U.S. Postal Servic:e. Receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient is not a waiver of an attomey--c::lient Or work product privilege. u o .' City of Carmel DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES Division of Planning & Zoning 29 August 2001 Alan V. Young Dan Young Chevrolet 3210 East 96th Street Indianapolis, IN 46240 Re: Dan Young Chevrolet Signage Viafax (317/814-4497) & US Mail Dear Mr. Young: During a site visit conducted July 27, 2001, by myself and Adrienne Keeling, the following violations of the Carmel/Clay Sign Ordinance were observed: 1""".:0.... ~~ .~.....~ Four un-permitted Identification signs on northeast building. Page 1 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 't) r. ~ . Q ....--4.._~ ~-. r~ ! "f \ 0 Grj/.il/l~rjl ':tr.rrc{Zc . I)), .~. '9 Un-permitted "Goodwrench Service" sign on northwest building. "-... :lJ':~~ ~:;~'f~}, ~A " . . r. ~~...- · Un-permitted "Parts" sign on northwest building. J '~1~ \ta ~ Page 2 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 o 317/571-2417 o o " Section 25. 7.01-4(e) prohibits "...signs which move by design or have a major moving part." 'im ,::~~~~ fln;1l1 ",1111 y 'I ~".~ r I 'I I 1 ~ ~-'" Page 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 {.) 0 " ~ I f. ! :: ,U USED TRUCKS Section 25. 7.01-4(e) prohibits "...signs which move by design or have a major moving part." ,...'~ .... . . - -- - ---Ll -F j,-J \1 & ~ ,flY \ r ~ t.......:......'- .~W ~.~_.. -.~ - ~~ . .a-J i'a.-- "-~~. \_.J.~ ... " ,€~;}) , ___ D9:N 'fOlJt~C '(I.JLI j Traffic Directional Sign in excess of three (3) square feet in Sign Area. Until such time as the existing sign violations on site are abated, the Department will be unable to release the site for further sign permitting. Those signs approved by the CarmeVClay Plan Commission under Docket No. 46-01 ADLS and by the Board of Zoning Appeals under Docket Nos. V-77-01 through V-89-01 cannot be established while these violations persist. Page 4 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 o o If I can be of any further service please feel free to contact me at (317) 571-2417. Sincerely, Laurence M. Lillig, Jr. Planning & Zoning Administrator Department of Community Services Cc: Jeff Kendall, Building Commissioner Adrienne Keeling, DOCS, Code Enforcement Officer Dawn Pattyn, DOCS, Sign Permit Application Review Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger Page 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 .. t '., U 0 CITY OF CARMEL ~. DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES Division of Planning & Zoning LET T E R of G RAN T 28 August 2001 ~ ~ RECEIVED ... lOCI Alan V. Young Dan Young Chevrolet 3210 East 96th Street Indianapolis, IN 46240 Re: Dan Young Chevrolet Developmental Standards Variances (V-77-01 through V-89-01) Viafax (317/814-4497) & US Mail Dear Mr. Young, At the meeting held July 23, 2001, the Carmel/Clay Board of Zoning Appeals took the following action regarding petitions filed by Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger on behalf of Dan Young Chevrolet: APPROVED: Docket No. V-77-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to establish an 18.5 8-square- foot Traffic Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-78-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 4' 10" Traffic Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-79-0l, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to establish an 18.58-square-foot Traffic Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-80-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 4' 10" Traffic Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-81-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to establish an 18.58-square-foot Traffic Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. Page 2 Docket Nos. V-77-01 through V-89-01 o o ,! C' t . APPROVED: Docket No. V-82-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 4' 10" Traffic Directional Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-83-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions - Traffic Directional Sign of the Sign Ordinance in order to establish an 18.58-square-foot Traffic Directional Sign. The Board yoted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. '\ ' : ~' ~PR,?,~MD: D ket N. o. V-8~-Ol, a. petition to v~ Section 25.7.01-2: pefi:zitions.- Traffic Dlrecqonal Sl ~~lgn Ordmance m order to penmt a 4' 10" Traffic Drrectional SIgn. The Board!'~~ted r.vor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. , , APPIiQVED wDOOommitments: Docket No. V-85-01, a petition to vary Section 25.7.01-4(i) of the Sign Ordinance in o~der to permit an Identification Sign to encroach into the East 96th Street 75-fob~ half right-of~way. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby "', { . - approving the petition With the following Commitment, which is to be rendered in writing by your attorney and submitted to the Board's attorney for review prior to recording: . If at any time in the future the sign is required to be moved, the relocation of the sign will be accomplished at the property owner's expense, and the City or any successor unit of government will not be held in any way liable. APPROVED: Docket No. V-86-01, a petition to vary Section 25. 7.02-7(b): Number & Type of the Sign Ordinance in order to establish nine (9) Identification Signs on site. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-87-01, a petition to vary Section 25. 7.02-7(c)(ii): Maximum Sign Area of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 105-square-foot Identification Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-88-01, a petition to vary Section 25. 7.02-7(c)(ii): Maximum Sign Area of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 105-square-foot Identification Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. APPROVED: Docket No. V-89-01, a petition to vary Section 25. 7.02-7(c)(ii): Maximum Sign Area of the Sign Ordinance in order to permit a 72-square-foot Identification Sign. The Board voted four (4) in favor, zero (0) opposed, thereby approving the petition. Once recorded, forward two (2) copies of the Commitments to this Department for inclusion in the file. The Division of Planning & Zoning will not release the property for sign permitting until this aspect of the Board's approval has been satisfied. When applying for Sign Permits for this structure, please include a copy of this letter with your application materials in order to assist the Department's review. If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me at 317.571.2417. . ,~ Page 3 Docket Nos. V-77-01 through V-89-01 u u \ Sincerely, {jd~'(Z' Laurence M. Lillig, Jr. Planning & Zoning Administrator Department of Community Services Cc: Jeff Kendall, DOCS, Building Commissioner Dawn Pattyn, DOCS, Sign Permit Review Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger (fax: 317/846-8782) u u City of Carmel August 21,2001 Dan Young Chevrolet Attention: Al Young 3210 East 96th Street Indianapolis, IN 46240 RE: Dan Young Chevrolet - Special Use Amendment - Docket No. SUA-71-01 ADLS Docket No. 46-01-ADLS; Sign Variance Docket Nos. V-77-0l through V-89-01, Inclusive Dear Mr. Young: This letter is to confirm that committing to the removal of the pole signs on the Dan Y ong Chevrolet property facilitated the approvals obtained under the above-referenced docket numbers. If you have any questions or if I may be of further assistance please do not hesitate to call. Sincerely, ;t-c5 Planning Administrator c: Charlie Frankenberger, Nelson & Frankenberger File Dan Y oung-1.rtf Page 1 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 ~ - ~ NELSONU & FRANKENBERGER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATIORNEYS.AT.!A W JAMES J. NELSON CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER JAMES E. SIDNA VER lAWRENCE J. KEMPER JOHN B. FrATI of counsel JANE B. MERRILL 3021 EAsr 98th SrRmr Sum: 220 INDIANAPOIJS, INDIANA 46280 317-844-0106 . FAX: 317-846-8782 July 23,2001 " .a ~ ~ECE\'Jtt) JU\, 26 ?~~\ - uOCS Jon C. Dobosiewicz Cannel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Cannel IN 46032 Re: D. Young Chevrolet, LLC Dear Jon: Enclosed you will find the Owner's Consent for the sign variances under Docket Nos. V-77-01, et ai, and the Owner's Consent for the Request to Amend the Special Use filed under Docket No. SUA-71-0 1. Should you have any questions or comments, please call. Thank you. Very truly yours, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER C'---- Charles D. Frankenberger CDF/jlw Enclosures F:\User\1anetlDan Young Chevy\Dobosiewicz Itr 072301.wpd u NELSON & FRANKENBERGER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATIORNEYS-AT-IA W u JAMES J. NElSON CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER JAMESE. SHlNA VER lA WRENCE J. KEMPER JOHN B. FlATI' of counsel JANE B. MERRllL 3021 EAsr 98th SrREET SUITE 220 OOIANAPOus, INDIANA 46280 317-844-0106 FAX: 317-846-8782 July 18, 200 1 VIA HAND DELIVERY Laurence M. Lillig Cannel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Cannel, IN 46032 Re: D. Young Chevrolet, LLC - Sign Variance Application July 23, 2001 Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals Hearing Docket Nos. V-77-0l, V-78-0l, V-79-0l, V-80-0l, V-81-01, V-82-01, V-83-0l, V-84-01, V-85-01, V-86-0l, V-87-0l, V-88-01, and V-89-0l Dear Laurence: Enclosed is the requested informational brochure. Included in the pocket part is the commitment regarding pole signs and the dedication of right-of-way. I have also enclosed the original sign chart, the revised chart (also included in the brochure), and the itemization of variances. Please note that the information in the first two columns in the revised chart should be identical to the information in the first two columns of the original sign chart. I hand wrote the correction. I will give you a second revised chart with the correction. In that two more pole signs are removed, there are still nine identification signs. Also, there are still three oversize signs. As such, I believe that the revisions do not require additional variances, and the notice suffices. Please relay to me your thoughts. Thanks. Very truly yours, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER I : " L?~ Charles. D. Frankenberger CDF/jlw .. Enclosures F:\User\JanetlDan Young Chevy\Sisn App\LiJlig Itr 071801.wpd " ..L d;l :_-\\' ' u NELSON & FRANKENBERGER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATIORNEYS-AT.IAW o JAMES J. NELSON CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER JAMES E. SlDNA VER lAWRENCE J. KEMPER JOHN B. FlATI of counsel JANE B. MERRllL 3021 EAsr 98th Snw:T SUITE 220 1ND1ANAPOus, INDIANA 46280 317-844-0106 FAX: 317-846-8782 , -, ~ . July 13,2001 VIA HAND DELIVERY Laurence M. Lillig Carmel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 Re: D. Young Chevrolet, LLC - Sign Variance Application July 23, 2001 Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals Hearing Docket Nos. V-77-01, V-78-01, V-79-01, V-80-01, V-81-01, V-82-01, V-83-01, V-84-01, V-85-01, V-86-01, V-87-01, V-88-0l, and V-89-01 Dear Laurence: Enclosed you will find ten (10) copies of the informational brochure pertaining to the above matters to be heard on July 23, 2001 by the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals. Very truly yours, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER JES/jlw Enclosures . Shinaver F:\User\JanetlDan YOWlg Chevy\Sign ApplLillig-brochures.wpd w NELSON & FRANKENBERGER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATIORNEYS-AT.LAW u JAMES J. NElSON CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER JAMES E. SHINA VER LAWRENCE J. KEMPER JOHN B. FLATI of counsel JANE B. MERRilL 3021 EAsr 98th SrREEr SUrrE 220 1NDwwous,1ND1ANA46280 317-844-0106 FAX: 317-846-8782 July 13,2001 VIA HAND DELIVERY Laurence M. Lillig Cannel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Cannel, IN 46032 Re: . D. Young Chevrolet, LLC - Sign Variance Application July 23, 2001 Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals Hearing Docket Nos. V-77-01, V-78-01, V-79-01, V-80-01, V-81-01, V-82-01, V-83-01, V-84-01, V-85-01, V-86-01, V-87-01, V-88-01, and V-89-01 Dear Laurence: Enclosed you will find the following: 1. Notice of Public Hearing; 2. Affidavit of Mailing; 3. Proof of Publication; 4. List from the Hamilton County Auditor regarding surrounding property owners; 5. Certified, return receipt requested cards which were returned by the surrounding property owners; and 6. Tax maps and mailing addresses for Marion County owners. The above-referenced docket matters are to be presented to the Cannel Board of Zoning Appeals on Monday, July 23, 2001. Please call with any questions. Very truly yours, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER JES/jlw Enclosures F:IUserIJanetlDan YoWlS ChevylSi8l1 ApplLillis-pub 071301,wpd ;-. . -T# #,f. .~ Johnson, Sue E u u 1E0\~ From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Lillig, Laurence M Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:04 PM Johnson, Sue E; Morrissey, Phyllis G; pattyn, Dawn E; Tingley, Connie S Hollibaugh, Mike P; Hahn, Kelli A; Dobosiewicz, Jon C Dan Young Chevrolet Signage (V-77-01; V-78-01; V-79-01; V-80-01; V-81-01; V-82-01; V-83- 01; V-84-01; V-85-01; V-86-01; V-87-01; V-88-01; V-89-01) The following Docket Nos. have been assigned to the Developmental Standards Variance petitions filed by Charles D. Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger on behalf of Dan Young Chevrolet for the site located at 3210 East 96th Street. The petitions appeared on the June 20,2001, TAC agenda. Docket No. V-77-01 Docket No. V-78-01 Docket No. V-79-01 Docket No. V-80-01 Docket No. V-81-01 Docket No. V-82-01 Docket No. V-83-01 Docket No. V-84-01 Docket No. V-85-01 Docket No. V-86-01 Docket No. V-87-00 Docket No. V-88-01 Docket No. V-89-01 Total: $1470.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Area #5 18.11-[1] $630.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Height #54'10" $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Area #6 18.11-[1] $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Height #6 4'10" $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Area #7 14.40-[1] $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Height #74'0" $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Area #7 14.40-[1] $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-2: Traffic Directional Sign Height #7 4'0" $70.00 ZO 25.7.01-4(i): Prohibited Signs Main Sign right-of-way encroachment $70.00 ZO 25.7.02-7(b): Number & Type 91dentification'Signs $70.00 ZO 25.7.02-7(c)(ii): Maximum Sign Area 1 05-[1] Main Bldg SW facade $70.00 ZO 25.7.02-7(c)(ii): Maximum Sign Area105-[1] Main Bldg NW facade $70.00 ZO 25.7.02-7(c)(ii): Maximum Sign Area72-[1] Used Bldg S facade $70.00 Separate Findings-of-Fact will need to be prepared for each of the petitions. . These Items will appear on the July 23, 2001, agenda of the Board of Zoning Appeals under Public Hearings. . Ten (10) informational packets will need to be delivered to BZA Secretary Ramona Hancock no later than noon, Friday, July 13, 2001. . Mailed and published Public Notice will need to be accomplished no later than Thurssday, June 28, 2001. **The ADLS Docket No. associated with these petitions is 46-01 ADLS- Sue Ellen, please contact Mr. Frankenberger at (317) 844-0106 [fax: 846-8782] with this information. Laurence M. Lillig,Jr. Planning & Zoning Administrator Department of Corrununity Services City of Carmel One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 Phone: 317.571.2417 Fax: 317.571.2426 llilliG@ci.carmel.in.us t..-... ':;;>. L-,...c:. \. j ~ ~~\ , r~~ 1 n; ~~~Q: ~ /") "-/ -~ ~.r# u u ~. ,.' ~.... CITY OF CARMEL Department of Community SetVices One CMc Square Carmel, IN 4&X32 (317) 571-2417 Fax: {317} 571-2426 Fax TD: c.... ,~Q...... '- \ ~ Phone: ~ ~ 0" _~. .Reo ~- <9M ,..,.~ o Urgent Cl Far Review D P.lease Comment 0 Please Reply Fr~m: ~ ~ , I ..-.> Pages: ~ Date: L..r;> - ~ ~ ~ ( Fax: Sf 1-5/ 7t.p cc: (J Please Recycle ~ €Ut~ /'\ ,...........\ "-,) '../ ~ NELSON & FRANKENBERGER A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION ATfORNEYS-AT-IAW JAMES J. NElSON CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER JAMES E. SIllNA VER LAWRENCE J. KEMPER JOHN B. FLATf of counsel JANE B. MERRnL VIA HAND DELIVERY Laurence M. Lillig Carmel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 June 8, 2001 Re: Dan Young Chevrolet - Sign Variance Application Dear Laurence: '0 3021 EAsr 98th Snw;;r SUITE 220 1NmANAPous, INDIANA 46280 317-844-0106 FAX: 317-846-8782 ~ ~ II~ECE'VED tlUII . 20m DOcs Enclosed you will find one (1) original and one (1) copy of a Sign Variance Application, along with the appropriate plans regarding the same. Please place this matter on the Board of Zoning Appeals agenda for its July 23,2001 hearing. Thank you for your assistance in this matter, and please call if you should have any questions. JES/jlw Enclosures F:IUser\JanetlDan YOWlg ChevylSign ApplLillig Itr 060801.wpd Very truly yours, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER