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Discussion ensued regarding different options the petitioner might explore to add variety to the
fa~ade facing Pennsylvania.
Christine Barton-Holmes, DOCS: She said that ideally the Department would like to the see
the glass wall mirrored on the other side. She said that the building has Penn Street frontage and
a Penn Street address, so she said that the Department would like to see the building addressing
Penn Street. She said that the fa~ade isn't going to be very visible from Meridian Street or
Pennsylvania. She said that Staff would like to see an identical fa~ade or something very similar
on the Penn Street side.
Matt Griffin, DOCS: He said that since the Penn Street side is the highest profile side with the
most visibility. He said that the building and that fa~ade in particular shouldn't be designed so
that it looks like the rear access. He said that there are ways to elegantly handle the fa~ade
without making it a full-blown entrance with atriums and everything else. He said that
landscaping would probably help to dress up that facade as well. He said that all of the great
detailing is just pretty much lost because it is sandwiched internally.
Roger Kilmer asked if a possible solution could be established through building materials and
landscaping or if the petitioner's needed to include some sort of relief in the fa~ade.
Bob Doster asked about the comment from Staff regarding a lO-foot walk across the front. He
said that there is and existing 5 ft. walk. He wanted to know if the petitioner should pull out the
existing path in order to put in the wider path.
Matt Griffin, DOCS: He responded that the petitioner would need to verify what the path will
become with Karyn Ryg.
The petitioner asked if they could decrease some of the foundation plantings on one side in
order to give them the ability to increase the landscaping on the other side of the building.
Scott Brewer, DOCS Urban Forester: He said that he thinks that something could be worked
out with the petitioners. He said that the City of Carmel is looking for good design.
The petitioner responded that he thought that they could work something out by moving
landscaping and putting a small bump in the wall on the East side. He clarified that the
projection would be on the build-to line and the rest of the building would sit a few feet back
from that. He clarified that something could project overhead into the setback.
Roger Kilmer asked for clarification on what the new filing fee would be.
Christine Barton-Holmes, DOCS: She said that she would email the petitioner the updated fee.
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9:15 a.m. Docket No. 06030005 PP: Village on the Monon
The applicant seeks to plat 19 lots on 6.29 acres.
The site is located at 1320 Rohrer Road and is zoned Rl Residential
Filed by Kevin Roberts of DeBoy Land Development Services for The Anderson Corporation.
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Present for the Petitioner: Jim Anderson with the Anderson Corporation, David Stewart with
Stewart-Anderson, Kevin Roberts with DeBoy Land Development Services.
Petitioner Overview: Kevin Roberts said that the petitioner is looking at 19 new lots in a
project just off of Rhorer Road across the street from the Monon Trail. He said that the
petitioner is proposing a connecting street to Rhorer Road. He said that the water lines that are
connected to the North and the South, he feels, will be an overall improvement to the
neighborhood. He said that they have had some meetings with the neighbors and have received
some positive feedback.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office: He said that he sent Kevin Roberts a letter.
He said that it would be a regulated drain subdivision and that he would go by after the meeting
and look at the petitioner's proposed outlet. He said that he would just wait for construction
plans and drainage calculations.
Shirley Hunter, Cinergy: She said that she has not received any plans to review. She gave the
petitioner the card of Sean South. She said that they don't typically request information until the
construction plans are available. She said that Cinergy will need AutoCAD drawings and a new
service request when the secondary plat is finalized.
Kevin Roberts gave Shirley Hunter with Cinergy a copy of the plans.
Nick Redden, Carmel Engineering: He said that he sent the petitioner a letter on February 17,
2006 and he said that Engineering would just wait to the petitioner's response to those
comments.
Kevin Roberts said that the petitioners would be changing the roads from twenty-four feet to
thirty feet. He said that the petitioners would also like to put in an island in the middle of the
road at the entry to Rhorer Road. He said that he would like to discuss the geometry of that at
some point with Engineering. He clarified that the island would be 6 feet wide. He said that he
would also like to discuss at some point the resurfacing and widening of Rhorer.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department: He said that he hasn't sent Kevin a letter yet. He told
the petitioner to send him a drawing showing the existing fire hydrants. He clarified that the
development would not have an amenity facility. He said that they would have a comment on the
petitioner's island when it gets drawn. He said that would be an ingress point and that he wanted
to verify that the truck could get through. He said that the Fire Department would prefer roll
back curbing as opposed to the chairback curbing on the island. He said that the petitioner
should also install the blue fire hydrant markers in the middle of the street to facilitate the fire
department finding the fire hydrants in a quick manner.
Discussion ensued regarding Fire Hydrant locations.
Scott Brewer, DOCS Urban Forester: He said that he and the petitioner met and that he
received the plan. He said that when the petitioner actually has a landscape plan, he would make
some comments, but that until then, he would make comments on the packet he was provided.
Matt Griffin, DOCS: He said that he really didn't have much to add since his comments that
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were provided in the docketing email. He said that the petitioner should touch base with Karyn
Ryg, DOCS transportation planner, to verify what the pedestrian path along Rhorer is going to
be. He said that he wasn't sure if it was going to be a sidewalk or a 10 ft. path. He said that the
ramps should pick up on the other side to allow pedestrians to cross in a safe manner. He said
that he didn't have any other comments because a lot of his comments were addressed by phone
with Kevin Roberts.
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Docket No. 06030006 TAC: Rocky Mountain Landscape Management
The applicant seeks to add outdoor storage at an existing approved site.
The site is located at 4724 Northwestern Drive and is zoned IllIndustrial
Filed by Larry Kemper of Nelson and Frankenberger for David E. Hunter
Present for the Petitioner: Larry Kemper with Nelson & Frankenberger, David Hunter with
Rocky Mountain Landscape Management, and Todd Vannatta with CTMT.
Petitioner Overview: Larry Kemper said that the property is located just South of l06th street
and West of Michigan Road. He said that the property is zoned 1-1 Industrial. He said that
Rocky Mountain Landscape Management is a contract purchaser of the property. Larry Kemper
said that the property is currently occupied by a fertilizer supply company and that Rocky
Mountain Landscape Company would be using the property in a very similar way, but that they
would like to construct a mulch bin for outside storage, a bed for planting perennials, and also
they would like to change the signage.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office: He said that he faxed Larry Kemper a
letter. He said that the only issue they had was their forty-foot drainage easement.
Shirley Hunter, Cinergy: She said that this property was in IPL's jurisdiction.
Nick Redden, Carmel Engineering: He said that this project was outside of the jurisdiction of
Carmel Engineering.
Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department: He said that with the nature of the proposed changes,
the Fire Department has no objection.
Scott Brewer, DOCS Urban Forester: He said that he would like to see an actual plan of what
the petitioner is proposing. The petitioners gave him a copy of the plans. He said that he would
take a look at them and get back with the petitioners.
Matt Griffin, DOCS: He said that as far as screening goes, the ordinance doesn't necessarily
apply to the petitioner because they are not close to a residential area and Northwestern Drive is a
private drive. He said that if the petitioners offer mitigation that the neighbors request, he felt
that would meet the intent of the ordinance.
Greg Hoyes, Hamilton County Surveyor's Office: He commented that the petitioners needed
to keep landscaping out of the forty-foot drainage easement.
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