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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Sub 05-04-06 w o May 4, 2006 Carmel Plan Commission Subdivision Committee Minutes Dave Compton said that their site would drain to the North and that they might not solve the entire problem, but that they would slow down the water and not contribute to the drainage problem anymore. Rick Ripma said that if the petitioners intend to build the proposed Monon rest area, then the Committee would like to see a design of it. Carol Schleif said that she would like to see separate mailboxes, as opposed to the ganging of the mailboxes. Bill Ellis, who resides in the Autumn Lake subdivision, said that his question has to do with drainage. He said that if the development is developed, will the drainage going to run into the pond near his home. He said that the pond is a private pond and that it was stocked through the Indiana Department of Natural Resources. Dave Compton responded that to the best of his knowledge, Pulte would be draining to the North. He said that there may be a small amount of rear yard drainage, but that everything was designed to drain to the North. He asked for Mr. Ellis's contact information, so he could keep him in the loop as plans develop. Rick Ripma said that the City's ordinance requires two entries and that the Committee would like to see connectivity between Autumn Lakes and the proposed development. He said that he knew that some of the neighbors original requests were for the two developments to connect. He said that he would like to see some good and. significant reasons why they wouldn't connect it if Pulte decided that they didn't want to. Dave Compton clarified that in discussions with the City the chief concern has been fire access. He said that was where they established that the bricking was wide enough for fire access for a truck to get through and they put a gate with a lock on it that only the fire department has that allows for the connectivity of the fire department, but protected the kids in the Autumn Lakes subdivision. He said that they would certainly continue looking into that. Rick Ripma said that docket number 06010001 Z: Monon Townes PUD would be continued to the June 6, 2006 meeting of the Carmel Plan Commission Subdivision Committee meeting. ...END... 2. Docket No. 06030005 PP: Village on the Monon The applicant seeks to plat 19 lots on 6.29 acres. The site is located at 1320 Rohrer Road and is zoned Rl Residential Filed by Kevin Roberts of DeBoy Land Development Services for The Anderson Corporation The Petitioner requested a continuance to the June 6, 2006 prior to the May 4, 2006 Committee Page 6 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 o o May 4, 2006 Cannel Plan Commission Subdivision Committee Minutes consultants, Buzz Carrone and Morton Marcus to develop fiscal impacts. He said that Morton Marcus is the retired head of the economics department at Indiana University: Department Report: Angie Conn said that she would just briefly touch on issues, since the petition would be continued. She said that there is still the issue of the two-story structure versus the three-story structure. She said that the Department Report touches upon petitioner would be required to do upgrades to Rohrer Road. She said that the street light style is requested to have more of a flat lens where the light shines down and not up and out. She said that the landscape plan should be revised and submitted to the Urban Forester. She said that the staff is still waiting for a response from the Engineering department. She said that the Department recommends that this item be continued to the June 6, 2006 meeting. Carol Schleif said that she thinks that one of the main reasons for a rezoning is for better design and she said that, as she looks at the graphics, she sees a lot of rooftops and a lot of pavement. She said that she doesn't see that this plan fits in this area. She said that she knew that the petitioners had gone and redesigned everything and that what she was hoping to see was cluster housing or something single family, more in keeping with the surrounding areas. She said that she realizes that the overlay is close, but that there was too much between the site and the overlay to try and tie the two together. She said that if there was a backyard that backed up to their backyard, the headlight issue would go away. She said that as far as the hearty plank it would be better in the ordinance if the petitioner did not mention a brand name. She said that there are three major companies that have this product right now and all of them are in court over it. So, she said that one of the companies has a certification program. She said that she thinks that this product is one that, due to the nature of the way it is installed, it can be really troublesome. She asked the petitioner to write in language that the hearty plank is to be installed by a certified installer. She said that so far she doesn't see the compelling reason to change the zoning. So, she said that she is hopeful that there will be something different next time. She said that tax base is not necessarily an issue. She said that they can still get a lot of people in there without it being so dense. She said that she can see it as being very attractive in some form. She said that as far as lot size goes, the R-l is a good size. She said that the setbacks are good. She said that she wasn't set on that, but she said that she would rather have the setbacks than the townhomes at this point. She said that forty feet was too tall in her mind as far building height. She said that she's looking at the elevations and that they look like a lot of the other townhomes in the area. She said that she had heard a lot of comments about the style of townhomes being boring and flat. She said that she likes more of the bumpouts. She noted that there was around a three-foot bumpout, which she said did not read. She said that it would have to be more like five to ten feet for it to give the facade any sort of depth. Rick Ripma asked if there were units added or if the density was the same. Ann Walker-K1oc responded that the current layout contains sixty-six units. She said that the original layout filed with sixty-five units. Rick Ripma said that even a good-looking building built fourteen times looks bad. Discussion ensued regarding existing drainage. Page 5 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417