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Hyatt Place Carmel
12045 Illinois Street
Carmel, IN 46032
Ph # 317-343-6400
Fax # 317-343-2115
July 4th, 2023
Re: potential parking issues @ Ritz Charles complex
Dear Lia,
Thanks for reaching out and giving me an opportunity to express my concerns about potential parking
compression at Ritz Charles complex viz. Ritz-Hyatt-Medical office building (MOB)-proposed TRU hotel.
I will try to express myself in bullet points rather than lengthy sentences.
POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF EASEMENT DOCUMENTS & ADLS REQUIREMENT.
*** Refer document1: “ritz-tru parking easement agreement recorded 6-18-20”.
Excerpt from this document:
Lot 1 owner (medical office building -MOB) was planning to construct
40,000 sq. ft building
The north Ritz parcel should not have less than 115 parking spaces.
Lot 1, Lot 2 (TRU hotel) and Ritz Charles may negotiate in good faith to
construct parking garage.
*** Refer document2: “MOB-TRU shared parking agreement 10-29-21”
Excerpt from this document:
Lot 1 owner constructed 45,000 sq.ft class A medical office building.
Lot 2 owner is proposing 126 rooms limited service hotel.
In no event Lot 1 owner should have parking spaces less than 93.
In no event Lot 2 owner should have parking spaces less than 50.
*** Refer document3: “C200 site plan”
Excerpt from this document:
Hyatt Place Carmel * 12045 Illinois Street * Carmel, IN 46032 * Ph: (317) 343-6400 * Fax: (317) 343-2115
Lot 1 has 84 parking spaces.
Lot 2 proposed 26 spaces.
Ritz has 135 parking spaces.
*** Refer document4: “letter from spring lake to city 5-16-23”
Excerpt from this document:
289 parking spaces required between Lot 1 and Lot 2.
CONCLUSION:
Lot 1 may have originally planned 40,000 sq.ft building but ended up doing
45,000 sq. ft building
Ritz can reduce north parking parcel to 115 parking spaces in future without
violating easement agreement.
Lot 1 owner should have minimum of 93 spaces. They currently have 84 spaces
based on site plan. 9 short.
Lot 2 owner should have minimum of 50 spaces. They currently have 26 spaces.
24 short.
Based on ADLS requirement minimum required between Lot1 & Lot2 is 289.
Ritz has 135 parking spaces. Even with cross parking easement, they may be short
by 44 (135+84+26-289).
GAUGING PARKING DEMAND (WORST CASE SCENARIO)
*** Refer document5: “ritz parking spaces 2005 vs. 2022”
*** Refer document6: “letter from ritz Charles to city 4-10-18”
*** Refer document7: “ritz parking compression letter & photos”
*** Refer document8: “hyatt site plan”
Hyatt Place Carmel * 12045 Illinois Street * Carmel, IN 46032 * Ph: (317) 343-6400 * Fax: (317) 343-2115
Continued…..
facility available
parking
demand description parking
demand
(worst case
scenario)
reference people
(worst
case)
ritz charles 428 their capacity is over 1000 in a sit
down environment
750 document5
document6
1000
ritz charles
have over 130 full and part time
employee in 2018
130 document6 130
medical
office
84 45,000 sq. ft 137 document3 50
TRU hotel 26 126 rooms 126 document3 378
TRU hotel
employees 25 document4 25
Hyatt hotel 68 92 rooms hotel 92 document8 276
Hyatt hotel
employees 15
15
ritz charles
their business has increased
exponentially. Their employee count
is estimated between 150-200 in
2023
20
20
ritz charles
they have 18 trucks in 2023 compare
to 8 earlier
36 document7
total 606
1331
1894
MORE FACTORS THAT NEED SERIOUS COMTEMPLATION
1. Currently it is said that Ritz host 20-30 big events per year. In future why would they limit
themselves to only 20-30 events. They are hungry for growth which is evident from their
historical (chapel and glass pavilion added) & current expansion and renovation (office space &
landscaping added). The current parking spaces are static. Where will more parking spaces come
from when their business activities grow more?
2. Ritz have approximately 18 big trucks. It is evident from most recent photos (refer document7)
that few of them require 4 parking spots.
3. Does the entire complex meet minimum parking requirement? Here are the square feet of each
businesses.
Continued…..
Hyatt Place Carmel * 12045 Illinois Street * Carmel, IN 46032 * Ph: (317) 343-6400 * Fax: (317) 343-2115
facility description sq. ft
ritz charles 1-story building
34,261
ritz charles chapel
4,847
ritz charles glass pavilion
4,984
medical office building office building
45,000
Hyatt hotel hotel building
56,589
TRU hotel 11,100 sq. ft per
floor, 5 floors
55,500
total
201,181
4. Total parking spaces including Ritz, MOB, TRU and Hyatt is 606. The worst case parking
demand may be 1331. Ritz, TRU and Hyatt will have parking demand simultaneously. Should
we roll back available parking spots (or demand) at MOB (during night-time), the net demand
will be 1331-84 = 1247 and the available space be still 606. The argument of TRU hotel using
entire parking spaces of MOB during night-time and still meeting demand is very speculative
and does not have merit.
5. Ritz’s wedding chapel and glass pavilion is located immediately to the north of Hyatt hotel. We
have repeatedly seen Ritz’s patron using Hyatt’s north end parking spots. Such usage increases
with rainy days or extreme weather. Many patrons of Ritz believe that Hyatt is part of Ritz. Will
policing not spoil the symbiotic relationship between Hyatt & Ritz? It will. Hyatt is not in a
business of making Ritz’s patron mad.
6. Why would Hyatt take on additional responsibility of policing its own parking spaces? Should
TRU hotel gets built without sufficient parking spaces, the compression will create chaos. Why
would Hyatt bear chaos for no apparent gain? Hyatt don’t want to manage parking chaos nor
want to incur cost to do so.
7. Respective patrons would like to park close to their respective facility. Why would a female
guest willingly walk across 500 feet or more to get to the facility she need to be? It will a liability
(safety) issue in absence of daylight.
8. It is harder to generate positive guest reviews. Guests are more prone to write bad reviews than
positive one. 20-30 chaotic days can generate 300+ bad reviews cumulatively. Bad reviews does
impact future revenue significantly. Hospitality industry is very susceptible to bad reviews. Who
will take responsibility for lost revenue?
Hyatt Place Carmel * 12045 Illinois Street * Carmel, IN 46032 * Ph: (317) 343-6400 * Fax: (317) 343-2115
9. Verbal assurance was given by TRU’s representative that more parking spots may be available
from office buildings (Welltower, Inc) to the north of MOB. Refer document9 “letter # 14 cheryl
o’conner welltower”. The reality is farfetched.
10. If new project (TRU hotel) goes through and the consequences are dire, who will accept
Accountability and at whose cost?
Respectfully I don’t see any way moving forward without parking garage to accommodate the
parking needs of MOB, TRU hotel and Ritz. I am willing to correct myself provided valid rationale
presentation is made with supporting study and documents.
Please don’t hesitate to reach out with questions.
Sincerely,
Ravi Patel
Hyatt Place Hotel
Carmel, IN
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RE: Hotel Prospects Meridian Corridor
Planning and development:
Ritz Charles is a full -service banquet and event facility operating in the city of Carmel Indiana and
located at 12156 N. Meridian Street, 4032. Our facility which can be visited at
www.ritzcharles.com, has been in operation for over 30 years. We are an upscale event and
conference facility hosting over 1,000 events per year in the wedding, corporate conference, and
social hospitality industry. Our facilities are constantly upgraded and modern, we are considered
the premier event facility in the Indianapolis market.
Facts of Operation:
• Our guest capacity is over 1,000 in a sit-down dinner environment.
• We separate into six different rooms for breakout in meetings, have a wedding chapel on
the grounds, host an average of three wedding receptions per weekend and have an
outdoor glass enclosed structure that seats an additional 300 in one setting.
• 60% of our weekend bridal business exists of 3 or more receptions at one time, sometimes
as many as 6.
• We have parking for over 600 cars.
,��ic •our ICcated on the Meridian C:vrr.dor, the heavie-s', north and south highway in the state
of Indiana. US 31/Meridian Street extends from South Bend Indiana to Louisville,
Kentucky.
• Besides the 150 wedding receptions we host on our campus, we contract over 15 evens
per week in the meeting and conference arena.
• We are a full -service venue with complete kitchen, culinary teams, bakery and off premise
division that is self-sustaining.
• We employ over 130 full and part-time staff, and we hold a 3-way licensee for serving
alcohol in the State of Indiana.
• One of the largest Hospital complexes in the state is located south and adjacent to our
property.
• All hotels used by our guests on a weekly basis must cross the interstate of US 31 to the
East side, three blocks north or south to gain access.
• We estimate that our brides are blocking 30 rooms plus per weekend at these various
hotels, most must arrange shuttle transportation.
• Our history indicates that we serve over 120,000 guests per year.
• The closest hotel on the West side of the Corridor is 'three miles south and located at 1 465
and Meridian and has a very circuitous travel path at best.
• Typically, we are at full capacity the fourth quarter of any given year and except for
January and February have at least 60% capacity in the other months.
The prospect of having a first-class hotel as part of our overall campus environment is one that is
welcomed and greatly anticipated. We believe a partnership utilizing both of our facilities is not
only eminent, but much needed. In addition to our willingness to work with Dora Hospitality Group to
develop a strategy of business success, we think that both of our businesses will be enhanced
12156 N. Meridian St. • Carmel, IN 46032 • (317) 846-9158 • Fax (317) 575-2253
and reach maximum viability. We also believe that we can be the arm of the hotel to handle all
conference and meetings; allowing the hotel to develop room availability and capacity to fit their
needs.
Additionally, it doesn't hurt to have a hotel on the West Side of Meridian Street that has a large
full -service event facility on one side and one of the largest hospitals on the other. In our
opinion and having no experience in the hotel industry it seems like the perfect scenario for the
type of the upscale hotel proposed.
Obviously, we are excited and proud to be associated with this project, will use our influence in
all cases of city approval, and look forward to a great marriage. I am happy to allow your
representative to meet and tour our campus, and I am available for any further discussion.
Regards,
Bill Nicholls
President & Co -Owner, Ritz Charles
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From:Shestak, Joe
To:ravi@sohumhotels.com
Cc:jay@sohumhotels.com; "Dave Coots"
Subject:RE: parking compression at Ritz-Hyatt-Office-TRU complex
Date:Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:09:27 PM
Good afternoon, Ravi:
Thank you for your email.. I have forwarded your email to the Plan Commission members, Planning
Staff, and the Petitioners for PZ-2022-00238 ADLS: Tru Hotel Carmel. A copy of your email is now
part of the online docket for PZ-2022-00238 ADLS: Tru Hotel Carmel.
Joe Shestak
Administrator – Meeting Coordinator
Board of Zoning Appeals | Plan Commission
City of Carmel
Department of Community Services
One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 571-2419 | jshestak@carmel.in.gov
From: ravi@sohumhotels.com <ravi@sohumhotels.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 3:55 PM
To: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>
Cc: jay@sohumhotels.com; 'Dave Coots' <DCoots@chwlaw.com>
Subject: parking compression at Ritz-Hyatt-Office-TRU complex
Good afternoon Joe,
Please click two links below that reveals parking compression that happened on April 21st, 2023,
around 5:15 pm at Ritz-Hyatt-Office-TRU complex.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rrx8ghycbnicifj/Hyatt-
Ritz%20parking%20compression%20video1.MOV?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iope0vrnr3lfoyr/Hyatt-
Ritz%20parking%20compression%20video2.MOV?dl=0
here are couple of takeaways….
The parking lot comprising Ritz Charles, Hyatt hotel, Office building was almost full.
The parking spaces in front (north of) of proposed TRU hotel were occupied.
The parking compression will get worst after these videos were taken because of following
practical availability of parking space vs. theoretical
reasons….
peak check-in time of Hyatt hotel’s patrons is between 5:00 – 8:00 pm. At 5:15 pm
all Hyatt’s guests have not yet arrive. The parking compression will increase
progressively as more hotel guests checks-in.
Parking compression will get worst once TRU hotel is constructed, as it will need
additional 133 (on high end) parking spaces. How can those be accommodated in
current situation?
It will be hard and impractical to police respective parking spaces. Policing will
generate bad guest reviews.
We made mistake by not having designated parking spots from Ritz Charles. Everyone will be better
off if one can find comprehensive solution to this problem.
Have a fantastic day !!
Ravi Patel
Sohum Hotels
317-514-1262
ravi@sohumhotels.com
field reality - the entire block will be short by 150+
parking spaces during peak events
big vehicles of Ritz occupy more than 1
parking space per vehicle
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ALL CONCRETE CURB RADII ARE 5' TO FACE OF CURB UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE.
ALL RADII AND PAVEMENT DIMENSIONS ARE MEASURED TO THE EDGE OF
PAVEMENT OR FACE OF CURB (WHERE APPLICABLE)
SEE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR BUILDING DIMENSIONS
ALL DIMENSIONS TO THE BUILDING ARE TO THE BUILDING FACE AT GRADE.
CONTRACTOR SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE BUILDING CONTRACTOR ON PLACING
THE FINAL ASPHALT WEARING SURFACE ON ALL PAVED AREAS. TIMING SHALL BE
COORDINATED TO MINIMIZE CONSTRUCTION-TYPE TRAFFIC ON THE FINAL WEARING
SURFACE. ALL SOFT SPOTS IN PAVEMENT AND SUBGRADE TO BE REPAIRED PRIOR TO
PLACEMENT OF FINAL ASPHALT SURFACE.
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Shestak, Joe
From: Cheryl O'Connor <coconnor@welltower.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 3:53 PM
To: Shestak, Joe
Cc: Markus Rasmus
Subject: Project PZ-2002-00238 ADLS: Tru Hotel Carmel
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
Mr. Shestak,
It has came to our attention that as it relates Project PZ-2002-00238 ADLS: Tru Hotel Carmel, representations have been
made by that Project's owner that they are in negotiations with Welltower where Welltower would provide access to its
properties (located at 12188 A & B) for additional parking for that Project. While we have not had a chance to verify
that such representations have actually been made, I just wanted to make you aware that there are not currently any
active negotiations between Welltower and the Project owner relating to any access to parking on Welltower's
properties.
Thank you.
Cheryl O'Connor
VP, Head of Medical Office Legal
Welltower Inc.
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Toledo, OH 43615
419.708.3057
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