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lh. Commission to consider Docket No. 59-87 Z, Rezone Application for 68.568 acres
located at S.E. corner of 116th Street and Spring Mill Road. Petitioner requests
a change from the existing S-2 zoning to B-6 Zone District for a proposed multi-
building office complex. Petitioner also commits to certain covenants and
conditions as part of the rezone request.
Filed by Jim Nelson, Attorney for Dr. John B. Pittman, Property Owner.
TABLED AT LAND USE COMMI'rrIE AUGUST 4, 1987. REMAINS TABLED.
This item remains tabled.
Mrs. McMullen said she feels this item should be withdrawn and not continued to be
tabled. This item will be having another public hearing and will be noticed.
Mr. Nr'lson said he has no problem with this and will consider this suggestion of
refiling.
2h. Commission to consider Docket No. 90-87 Z OA., amending Section 29.6 filing fees,
Carmel/Clay zoning and subdivision Ordinance, Z 160 as amended. This request
was originated by the Cannel City Council for Plan Commission consideration.
Filed by Carmel Planning Commission.
Mrs. Badger gave the Land Use Committee Report (which is a part of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) . The committee recommended approval per
Committee Report and Mrs. Badger so moved.
Dr. Long seconded.
The motion for the amendment carried and a favorable recommendation will be
forwarded to the City Council.
3h. Commission to consider Docket No.46-87 Z, Rezone Application for 64.13 acres
of land located north I-465 between College and US 31. Petitioner request a
change in zoning ficnn S-2 and R-1 to B-5; B-6; B-7 Zones for hotel and office
space.
Filed by Jim Nelson for Samuel Gillespie, Partner.
Mr. Nelson and Mr. Gillespie were present.
Mr. Davis assumed the chair for this item.
Mrs.Badger gave the Land Use Committee Report (which is a part of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
The committee recommended approval per the Committee Report and Mrs. Badger so
moved.
Seconded by Dr. Long.
The roadway improvement plan was shown.
Mr. Story questioned the traveling east on 103rd Street and is it diverted.
Jim Klausmeier commented onthe travel on 103rd Street and said the design is to
discourage all but the residents to proceed in a residential neighborhood.
Mr. Story said he is opposed to the diverting of the existing street sytem.
Mr. Moore said Hamilton County needs to better the North-South and East-West roads
and feels that Penn Street should be extended South.
Mr. Albright referred to traffic impact study for this project at 103rd Street and
said he feels that certain other developments have not been taken into consideration with
this. Mr. Albright questioned do we have room for all this traffic on Meridian. The
road system will not support this.
Mr. Story asked Mr. Kiphart if it is possible that we have funding in order to get our
own traffic study.
Mr. Kiphart said yes there is money in the consulting fund if the Commission wishes
this study.
Mr. Story moved to table this petition until the Planning Commission engages and
obtains results of a traffic study of our own on this project.
The motion died for lack' of a second.
Mrs. McMullen questioned how thoroughly the Commission studied this traffic issue.
Mrs. Badger said it was addressed but they are not experts.
The Technical Advisory Committee minutes of October 27, 1987, as it related to
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traffic, was read by Mr. Kiphart. These minutes are a part of official minutes and attached
to the Master Copy.
Mr. Ayers said he feels this is not resolvable this evening.
Mr. Nelson made statements supporting their position in this matter.
Mr. Klausmeier spoke, showing an official thoroughfare plan, and related the road
improvements proposed by Trammell Crow.
Discussion by the members followed.
Mr. Gillespie commented.
Mr. Nelson said they have done all they could to prepare this presentation for
consideration. If more traffic information is needed, they will provide and pay for.
Mr. Albright said he feels we have all the information we need to make a decision.
The vote tonight is to recommend to the City Council regarding the Rezone Application.
Paper ballots were cast.
Mr. Schneider and Mr. Boone asked to abstain.
The vote was 8 for, 3 against and 2 abstaining. Mr. Albright, Mr. Moore and Mr. Story
voted NO.
The motion carried and a recommendation of approval will be sent to the City Council.
Mr. Davis returned the chair to Mr. Albright.
4h. Commission to consider Docket No. 87-87 Z Rezone Application for .24 acres of land
located at 82 Sixth Street, Carmel, IN also know as Lot 9 of David Kinzer Sub-
division. Petitioner requests a change in zoning from R-2 to B-1 for the elimination
of an use Variance BA-16-76.
Filed by Dr. Linderman, Owner.
Dr. Linderman Was present.
Mrs. Badger gave the Land Use Committee report (which is a copy of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) stating that no vote was taken at the committee.
Mr. Kiphart said that Dr. Linderman has submitted a letter, which is in the file,
asking that this rezone request be changed to a B-7 instead of a B-1.
Mrs. McMullen said she feels this should be readvertised for public hearing and
moved that Dr. Linderman readvertise for public notice that he wants this request to be
changed to a B-7 Zone.
Seconded by Mr. Boone
The vote was 6 for and 4 against, a non-decision vote. (Mrs. O'Neal, Ms. Lamb,
Mr. Schneider and Mr. Albright voting NO.)
Mr. Boone moved Lo approve Docket No. 87-87 Z to a B-1 Zone.
The motion failed for lack of a second.
Dr. Linderman withdrew his petition and will readvertiase and come in with a new
petition.
5h. Commission to consider Docket No. 95-87 P.P., Primary Plat application for
Crossfields Subdivision consisting of 101 lots on 153.2 acres of land. Site is
zoned S-1 and located West of Towne Road between 126th and 116th Streets.
Filed by William Olson, Developer.
Stan Neal was present with Mr. Olson.
Mr. Ayers gave the Subdivision Committee Report (which is a part of the official
minutes and attached to the Master Copy) .
The Committee moved to approve with: 1) D & R approval of 10 gallon per minute well,
2) Following the guidelines for sludge, 3) 50 ft. away from mound. and Mr. Ayers so
moved.
Seconded by Ms. Doane.
Mr. Albright said there is some other information to relate. Mr. Albright met with
petitioners. There were concerns. The letter from Mr. Updegraft said the waste treat-
ment might work if there is positive subsurface drainage in the soil. Mr. Albright was
concerned that there was nothing to indicate there would be positive subsurface drainage
from under ground drains and retention ponds. My concern was this could not be drained
well enough for those to work. This was reinforced by Dr. Yonner.
Mr. Bryan House representing Clay West Property Owners Association, said there are
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