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Home My WebLink AboutRemonstrance from Deeka Moore 09-19-06 :~ (..) Q o ~ ~ ~ Q ~ ~ o (..) o ~ ~ r;,;;; Q ~ ~ Q Q Q Q Q ~ ~ 'Q ~ ~ o Q ~ ~ ~ 'r;,;;; ~ ~ Q ~ Q o IQ ~ Q September 19, 2006 Carmel Plan Commission Carmel Department of Community Services One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 Re: Proposed Clay Estates Private driveway to be named Chase Court Docket Nos. 06080007PP, 06080008SW, 06080023SW, 06080024SW Dear Planning Committee, We are very concerned with drainage from this proposed project. A 20' foot drainage easement behind our home is on our property. We currently drain most of the water from this 3 acre area north of our home (two older homes are located across the street from the middle school) through a large, open, drainage inlet. * Our 13 yr. old swale area has potential damage from this proposed development. * We would request this new subdivision to construct an 8' uniform, privacy fence along all Bayhill properties. Developer runs the risk of having a patchwork of different fences to keep new owners of Clay Estates from using our easements and Waterstone amenities. This subdivision must be unique unto itself We will ALWAYS "have the possibility of your homeowners parking a boat/trailer 10' from our property line. * We are concerned with safety issues with proposed waivers outside an established school. Attached are illustrations/depictions of our concerns. Sincerely, Jutjttft 7. lJ"k_.. Wayne D. and Deepak (Deeka) Moore 5150 Wynstone Way Carmel, IN 46033 -ie c' c c c c c CJ c c c~ c:' C C C C C c' c c c c c c c c' c c c c C c: C' C C c\ C' C c' C c: C c\ { Contents Buffer Full Master Plan Now S1 Zoning Proposed Dry Pond Drainage Swale photo Traffic Photos Street Photos Current sidewalk Proposed area of new prtvate drtve taken from school exit Environmentalff otal Picture of Location of New Subdivision Prtmary Plat Aertal View E-mails (Please note: The following pages were created/compiled by Deeka Moore) ~cc~vv~ovv~v~vovv~v~~cvvvvco~~v~ccvvvov~cvvc Create landscaping berms within this 10'. ~ ',r: ~ v,t'1 vt., r--------I I I --...--.---- -.-.... BUFFER 8' perimeter fence to be constructed on Bayhill property./ I~ ~~ CC_ J UJ j '> a II~ . Remove existing split rail fence. Fence is currently broken in many places and has three gates. East side of property has many openings. .......... i~ . i ,'.....- I I I I ~ 1----, I --~ I ~__-1 I !~ T "j , I '--~ Fence is to be put in after infrastructure (initial road, grading, proposed dry pond). BUT, before any building of homes start, fence must be in place. (Clay Estates has potential of being surrounded by 'patchwork' of different privacy__------- fences on Bayhill property lines) Remove privet bushes on west and south. Privet bushes were planted approx. 10 years ago inside split rail fence. Bayhill homeowners are burdened with keeping bushes out of aliI' properties. Invasive and needs constant upkeep. '-- ---, // /' /- / ,~~-- 1/4 Create a new 10' buffer within Clay Estates. This must be constructed by both evergreens and deciduos trees. (See Williams Ridge photo) ~.Q trees or landscaping within Bayhill are to be considered in the required 10' buffer area of this new subdivision. " '" / ""~ , f.;t\.tlH'" \ . \ I \ " \ .--.-- I I \ 1 I ,----", \ i ! .----- , I (I 1 Clay Estates is to be a separate subdivision apart from Waterstone. /~ / ~' / / ~leQ1a Ulspmy Q ~ ~ ~ Q Q Q ~ W W o W Q ~ Q '-> W w ~/ ~ c:$^~JrI ~ Q H'oMe~ '-l ~ W ~ Q Q o W Q Q W ~ g ~ ~ Q ~ Ohttp://miborlistings.marketlinx.com/SearchlScriptslMediaDisplay .asp?Uid=2521132&mlsnum=2620 174... Q Q ~ ~b- ~ -~- MLS#: 2620174 Media Type Acrobat PDF Virtual Tour Description (if available) #1 - 126.R-Qf it4.- W'-Nw. vi3_Q9.neJ!D:ont~~ Vi360 Virtual Tour!! ., ....-... "",..,..--- From MLS listing, Bayhill homes will have no visual separation from new development during winter. 9/18/2006 '- c.J ~ ~ cw ~ Q '-J W c.i ~ (.J ~ ~ W Q ~ w w ~ ~ '-> ~ Q ~ c.J W ~ '- Q W ~ W W W W Q ~ ~ '-J Q Q '-> W ~!~l~<: oX vJ, l~ Ij}~/)IZ U76j1~' jlJ\A l--l-- ?Vl €Iv \1) : ~16J\\ ' f) vlf{~ -r( cccccoccvcccvccocccccccccoccc~cccc~cvccovccc FULL MASTER PLAN NOW Current drawings appear to be incomplete. Future status of older home could potentially change the whole look for this new subdivision. Remaining area of 51 ,880 sq. ft. area could easily be divided into three 82 lots. Why burden the planning commission a second time for a public street and division of two or three more lots on upper half of property at a later time? ~----_. n I I I I ("\... ); ~ i .,J - ~ C') -- tt: ~J! .- ..... ecccc~ovoccccccvcccccc~cccccc~cccc~ccccccccc ~ , 51 ZONING Waterstone/Bayhill is mostly S 1. Bayhill on east side of this property is 81 as is the single family residence (adjacent to 126th Street) on west side of Clay Estates. 82 zoning of the three new homes could put homes closer together and bring more drainage concerns. - WlRHHll& ......-----..---'------ ..-----.....---- ------ CCCCCCOVCCVCCCCOC~C~CCCCCCCCCCCC~CL~~~~L~~~~ EXISTING AREA ZONES Bayhill envelopes this property Bayhill on the east side is S 1 I would like all of Clay Estates to be S 1 zoned -- -.---- " o '> ~) ------- _4 L -t " _ _ .._ _" _- -------11 n. --.- ----.~:- ~~':~ < < 0 j \ l L~ -- - ---.... \ U / \ ----- ...,., -- ..... .... \L (1 \ n r ovcccccvoccvo~cocvccccoc~occcvccc~cc~~cvov~c PROPOSED DRY POND Dry ponds are ill advised for ultra urban development. Dry detention ponds display numerous limitations such as: - Ponds may become a nuisance due to mosquito breeding in an urban setting. - Habitat and vegetation destruction may occur during construction. - While wet ponds can increase property value, dry ponds can actually detract from the value of a home. - Extended detention ponds have only moderate pollutant removal capabilities when compared to other structural stormwater practices, and are ineffective at removing soluble pollutants. - Maintenance and subsequent care of the pond is extensive. Areas such as, erosion, embankment structures, vegetation perimeter buffer, debris removal, seed/sod, sediment formations removal and, etc., require extensive maintenance activities and costs. /,0/' ,v /_-- - - .....:. ~.. ... . ~ ,'. -:- - -- ill\. ~ .w 1 ?vND ... ..... ----- - -. - - - .. - ... -..:-" -:.. .. -~ ....---. - - ..... . ti1!o N. . . ,'\ ,/ !I"I ~w.IIt.....}::! ..J;.i'V - - ,- \ , -- --- l - -- - , ,I -;It-t. t. ~~, ~fn'"l~ :\t':.N",t'- "- I cccc~cov~c~vvcvccvcccc~v~cc~vcvc~v~cv~ccccvv CURRENT DRAINAGE PROBLEMS Areas where water stands after heavy rainfall. -' ., ., .,. , , - ~ '-' . fl' ~ u u u o o o o () o o o o o o () () u o () u u () () o () () o u u () () o u u u u () u u u () u () U Picture of our 20' swale. ccccccccccccccccccc TRAFFIC PHOTOS Typical traffic at on normal student dropoffin morning. Inclimate weather causes much more traffic ccccccccccccccccccc /cccccccccccccccccc Q< g '::-". ' J ~' g. 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'-../ J. i ~, I L ~I I I '.JL___ ~ \..1 ~ ~ ; '} .,' ,i i .1, to ij 1,; I, , '~ !I , :1 it ,..I .1 I !l I 'J n I ~.l t :j \.1 l' ! l~ j ill ;,1 '1'; ..": 'I. , \ f ~ I,,; i~, "1 j , , :1 \', :~I \C, -", " _ ~..:_L \'," ccccccc~~cco~cccccv~vovvcccvvvocvvvccvcoccccL ENVIRONMENT ALITOT AL PICTURE OF NEW SUBDIVISION Area across the street from Clay Estates is MORE than Clay Middle School --Carmel-Clay Schools Transportation has access on west side of school --CarmeIClay School Administration is directly behind school ---Mark Badger Park, Carmel Dad's Club --Carmel High School Baseball field Clay Middle School is a mature and established school with history. Traffic is known to many who live nearby. School activities and sporting events cause futher traffic not just at school drop-off times. @ 25 50 I 100 PRIMARY CHASE PLAT FOR COURT ~ Is Chase Court the proper name for a private drive? ~~ ScMeider lliE SCHNEIDER CORPORATION 1 ~T&T Yahoo! 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[ Flag Message - Mark as Unread] Printat Subject: Clay Estates Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:43:44 -0400 From: "Duncan, Gary R" <gduncan@carmel.in.gov> ~8Add to Address Book !;iJ Add Mobile Alert To: deekamoore@sbcglobal.net Ms. Moore, Tha~k you for your email. I would be happy to answer your questions. I am actively reviewing this project. Our Department has not yet been provided drainage calculations but I can still answer your questions. 1. Are all new subdivisions responsible for all their own water runoff? (meaning -- no water can run into Waterstone's drains) Subdivisions are required to manage the storm water runoff such that runoff flows do not exceed certain values. Typically, runoff from undeveloped land increases as it is developed. Each subdivision is requir manage the increase in runoff and store it on-site (typically in open ponds) and release the water at levels stipulated in the city's standards. It is apparent that currently the runoff from the proposed CIa Estates development drains from the north to the south and enters into th storm sewer network of your development. As subdivisions are developed, the storm pipes are sized to receive,and convey water from off-site acreage that drains into the development. I would expect that Bayhill's storm system anticipated and can accommodate the runoff from the north. The Department of Engineering confirms this in the review of the drainage calculations. 2. On Schneider engineering drawing, their illustration of the dry pond (2' deep/20' wide/approx. 150' long) shows a line crossing over my swale and connecting into a drain pipe inlet in my easement. Can they ru a pipe through my property to connect with another pipe? (one subdivision into another) Provided that the existing storm pipe/inlet to which they are connecting is located within an easement, they can install a pipe within easement. The storm pipe at the back corner of your lot is located within a platted 20-foot drainage, utility and sewer easement. Easements are provided for such purposes. 3. There are two other storm drains located east and west of Clay Estates. These drains are 12 feet into Waterstone homeowners' property. this development put underground pipes to connect into these drains? Same as #2 above, yes, provided that the pipes are located in platted or dedicated easements. 1539 1263 0 6132 252... 9/14/2006 ~T&T Yahoo! Mail- deekamoore@sbcglobal.net ~ c.- f..) ~ ~ ~ ~ r..; ~ ~ '-' lei (.) ~ ~ ~ c.; '-I ~. '- !F~~~~~~'li~1 .C~IJ9$e ~ I.) ~ ~ r..,.) ~ C.,,) r..; (.) f.,.) ~ r..) Q w ~ Q f.,.) r..,.) Q ~ (..) c.; i.,) Page 2 of2 Please let me know if you have any other questions. I would be happy to answer them. Thanks so much, Gary Please note new email address below Gary R Duncan Jr., P.E. Assistant City Engineer City of Carmel Department of Engineering One Civic Square Carmel, Indiana 46032 (317) 571-2441 (317) 571-2439 (fax) qd~Qcan@c_~~mel. in----9ov . t:>et~te I vi ",I Spain I Move... ""I Rt!Ply Forward Pr~vious I Neg I Back to Messaoes Save Me?s_aoe Text I Full ~ Search Mail I '. Search th~ W~b I Copyright 2006 @Yahoo! Inc, Privacy Policy I Terms of Service I Send Feedback I Help ~ ~ '.,) I.,.) ~ w ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ I.,.) ~ w W Q W ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ r..;; (,,;; '-' ~ o ~ ~ I.,.J ~ ~ (,.J '- o ~ ~bout:blank c..t ~ Page 2 of2 Subject: Meeting with Gary Duncan Mrs. Moore, I talked with Gary Duncan about this issue and he is aware of it. From what I understood you had contacted the Street Dept. and they talked with Gary about this issue. He unfortunately can't meet with this Friday but he can meet with you on the Tuesday the 19th. Let me know what time is good for you that day and Gary said anytime is good for him, he is here from 8:00-4:30. Thank you, Lisa Scott City of Carmel Engineering Department 317-571-2441 9/15/2006 ~nessage_body_for_silk_test Page 1 of 1 .~ -, .~ ~\IIrs. Moore, . ~ am Fire Marshal Gary Hoyt of the Carmel Fire Department and the one that reviewed the ~Stein Project that came before the Technical Advisory Meeting in August of this year. __~ ~ttached is my comment letter that referenced this project and I am awaiting a response ~rom the petitioner. It was explained to me that it is more of a driveway than a cul-de-sac. ~ou might also want to contact Matt Griffin of the Department of Community Service. His '-ilumber is 571-2400-; '-Thank you I ~ . Gary Hoyt ~ire Marshal Garmel Fire Prevention Bureau ~17-571-2600 - Office ~17-571-2674 - Fax ~hoYt@carmel.in.gov ~ o C.) o (.,J - G..) -'-' r..; ~ c..> ~ ~ o ~ '-' -c.,l o ~ ~ (.) ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~#n.llll" -r2" 1 ",~;1 n~hnn I'n",/~I'II~nnl'h?~""nn=-<uoll'n",oRrVV=1"0"(\7(\1 (\1 Rr rQn~=~nlr(h7nllf\+~nA" 011 '1/"(\(\~ ~ W ~ '- ~ I.) . (...J (...J ~ ~ ~ ~ r.;; ~ c.;l r.;; ~ ~ ~ r...) r.; i.,l ~ ~ ~ ~ (...J ~ r.;; r.;; r.;; (,,) ~ r.;; c,.) (.) t.,I ~ t.) ~ ~ ~ '- I..) (..) ~ City of Carmel Fire Department Headquarters 2 CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 Voice (317) 571-2600 Fax (317) 571-2615 Fire Prevention Bureau Joe Sage Schneider 3020 N. Post Rd. Indianapolis, IN 46226 RE: Stein Development LETTER OF APPROVAL The undersigned has reviewed the proposed plans for Stein Development and has approved the plans subject to the following: 1. Will this project include an Amenity Area? If so, our office requests the installation of a Knox box for emergency access to be located on the clubhouse facility. Answer. no 2. Our office, in conjunction with the Department of Community Development, are requesting in newly platted subdivisions, fire hydrant makers be installed in the street pavement perpendicular to the fire hydrant. This will allow the fire department to more easily spot fire hydrants during an emergency. Answer: Agreed to install 3. Our office is requesting a fire hydrant be located at the end of the cul-de-sac. Answer: Agreed to install 4. Will this project be a gated community? If so, our office is requesting a S.O.S. type device and Knox key switch control device to access the properties in the event of an emergency. Answer: Not a gated community 5. I am providing you with the turning radii of our apparatus. Please use these figures in determining if the cul-de-sac turning radii will accommodate our largest piece of equipment. : Awaiting response 6. Please respond to the above noted condition(s) in writing and submit to our office prior to the scheduled Technical Advisory Meeting for this project. Date: Auaust 15. 2006 By: Gary Hoyt, Fire Marshal Carmel Fire Department ~essage _ body _for_silk_test (.l ,'I..,) iJeepak: ~ will look at the area, but I don't really cover drainage, but I am concerned with trees and landscaping requirements. ~YOu should contact Gary Duncan or Nick Redden of Engineering for drainage. (Jcott Brewer, City Forester ;1:nvironmental Planner. DOCS w.;ity of Carmel , (?ne Civic Square 'Wtarmel. IN 46032 ~H: 317-571-2478 FAX: 317-571-2426 ~"""""""""w,",.,"""""'" ~rom: Deepak Moore [mailto:deekamoore@sbcgJobaf.netJ ~nt: Friday, September 08, ,200611:19 AM 0: Brewer, Scott I q~~i'jl- r I .IJ J~..,'-.: ~;~:: .~~.A-,-li1_._", LJI..._ ~_..t" l' - - _.~, ~ubject: e: Clay Estates ~ ~cott Brewer, City Forester, ~ank you for replying to my e-mail. '-I W will send you this home site/pond proposed plan. You might see a better picture of the whole idea. '-l currently have a 20 ft. easement with drainage for this whole property behind my house. I will back up to ~his future dry pond and I am very concerned with drainage. You are welcome to take a look at this area. ~ank you, '-beeka Moore ~150 Wynstone Way r.)80-1244 ~-- Original Message --- '-'rom: "Brewer, Scott I" <SBrewer@earmeLin.gov>' To: Deepak Moore <deekamoore@sbeglobal.net> '-be: Gary Murray <gmurray@sehneidercorp.com>; " Griffin, Matt L " <mgriffin@carmel.in.gov>; " Holmes, Christine '-8 " <eholmes@carmel.in.gov> ~ent: Friday, September 8,20069:27:20 AM ~Subjeet: RE: Clay Estates Page 1 of2 ~ 1I1lli,." U>ear Deeka: '-' have not gotten a landscape plan for this four lot development yet, though I have asked for one. I have walked the site with the ungineer for Schneider to help them plan the driveway through the trees, I was not aware of the proposed site plan. They have ~oldme they will be leaving most ofthe trees, and moving many, especially the smaller evergreens. ~ will check into this. ~cott Brewer, City Forester ~nvironmental Planner. DOCS . City of Carmel, '-bne Civic Square , Garmel, IN 46032 -PH: 317-571-2478 c";;=AX: 317-571-2426 '-Lttp://us.f821.mail.yahoo.comldcllaunch?action=welcome& yy= 1292070 1 01&.rand=6uk9vnuOtdq42 9/13/2006 ~ (.I \ ~essage _body_for _ silk_test Page 2 of 2 ~ ~ '-fue 8/15/2006 3:22 PM ~ Qear Gary: '-lhe only thing I have gotten is a 'topa" overlay on a plat plan. I will need to see a landscape plan with meets the ordinance / Section 26.04. ~ (:...)cott Brewer, City Forester -environmental Planner. DOCS ~ity of Carmel, ( 'fne Civic Square 'lllCarmel, IN 46032 (.lH: 317-571-2478 . FAX: 317-571-2426 c,.; ~_.____m r;.;:m: Deepak Moore [mailto:deekamoore@sbcglobal.net] .. nt: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:47 PM ~o: Brewer, Scott I Qubject: Clay Estates Qcott Brewer, ~ heard you were aware of the proposed development in Carmel across the street from Clay Jr. High. r.,,; live in Bayhill off 126th Street in Carmel. I have looked at this proposed plan and the two foot deep dry '-lond that is drawn in preliminary plans. It will kill all the evergreens into this property with 'wet feet' along -this proposed dry pond. We will see a slow death to all these trees that are on the south side of the ~roperty. J am sure many will be removed and the rest will die in a few years. Is there any way we can get ~is development to move the dry pond more away from this property line? ~. Ith the property lines of the three proposed homes, so many trees will be removed. Is there a way we can -get a new tree added for every tree removed. ~ ~ank you very much, '-beeka Moore ~150 Wynstone Way (",)80-1244 o o o o ~ ~ o o ~ ~ '-tttn'l/lI~ fR7.1 m~il v~hoo r.omlrlr.lI~lInr.h?~r.t1on=wp.lr.omp.&:YV=17.Q7.070101& rnnci=OlI1rQvnnOttln47. (,.;; Q!1117.00ll ~