HomeMy WebLinkAboutNMMP 04050053 DP-ADLS1fflllf4orCAjrn@JctGOflllllfCITYOFCARMELDEPARTMENTOFCOMMUNITYSERVICESDivisionofPlanningZoningLETTERofGRANTOctober122004TomEagleyLAUTHPROPERTYGROUP401PennsylvaniaParkwayIndianapolisIN46280COPReNorthMeridianMedicalPavilionDocket04050053DPADLSDearTomAtthemeetingheldOctober52004thePlanCommissiontookthefollowingactionregardingtheDevelopmentPlanandArchitecturalDesignLightingandSignageDPADLSapprovalforthepropertylocatednorthwestofOldMeridianStreetandUS31APPROVEDDocket04050053DPADLSTheCommissionapprovedtherequesteight8infavorzero0opposedtherebygrantingthepetitionInordertoassisttheDepartmentsreviewpleaseattachacopyofthisletterwhenmakingapplicationforpermitsregardingtheimprovementscontaiedwithinthisapprovalDonothesitatetocontactmeifIcanbeoffurtherassistanceSincerelyLJonCDobosiewiczPlanningAdministratorDepartmentofCommunityServices3175712417ccJeffKendal1BuildingCommissionerDOCSDawnPattynRamonaHancockSarahLillard1004050053DPADLSpb
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Mark Rattermann made Motion to approve Docket No 04050037 ADLS Amend Thrifty Car
Sales subject to Department approval of a Photometric Plan Madeleine Torres seconded
motion carried Five 5 in favor zero 0 opposed
2 Docket No 04050053 DPADLS North Meridian Medical Pavilion
Filed by Tom Eagley of Lauth Property Group
The applicant seeks approval for a medicaloffice building The site is located northwest of Old
Meridian Street and Meridian Street US 31 The site is zoned B 3 and B 6 Business within the
US 31 Overlay Zone on 920 acres
Mike Cook attorney One Indiana Square Suite 1800 Indianapolis was present representing the
Lauth Property Group and the property owner Regency Realty Cindy Pyle Williams Creek
Farms homeowner and Ed Leer 12267 Creekwood Drive Williams Creek Farms were present
representing Williams Creek Farms Zeff Weiss attorney with Ice Miller was present representing
Greg Small adjacent property owner
Petitioner The proposal is for the construction of a medical office building containing 88902
square feet on the west side of Meridian Street approximately 12202 North Meridian Street and
contains 902 acres Currently the property has two separate zoning classifications
Approximately two thirds of the southern portion of the site is currently zoned B 6 and
approximately one third of the site to the north is zoned B 3 The petitioner is seeking ADLS and
Development Plan approval for this site located in the US 31 corridor No proposed variances or
waivers will be sought
The Three 3 story building along US 31 will contain approximately 88000 square feet on the
southeast portion of the site The proposed entrance to the project is located in the southeast
corner of the site the parking numbers 378 spaces The building will be constructed of a
buffcream and reddish brown color pre cast architectural metal and glass panels Enclosures for
the dumpsters will match the proposed building We are also proposing a low single monument
sign at the entrance with individual letters on the east facia of the building facing Meridian Street
A frontage view of Meridian Street shows the parapet wall at approximately forty nine feet 49
to the top of the tower and fully encloses the rooftop monitoring equipment at fifty seven point
three feet 573 View four shows the parking to the west of the building
Landscaping has been a subject of discussions with the Department to adopt a tree preservation
area to the northwest corner of the site and one on the southeast corner of the site we also plan
to conserve an area of trees on the north end of the site Landscape islands are now proposed in
the configuration as shownthey are larger and alternating at the end of each row of parking
space The total green space ratio is 15 and the total green area provided is approximately
27440 square feet The area along the west of the site is proposed for water retention Utilities
serving the site are Indianapolis Water Company and Clay Regional Waste sewer At the time
the petitioner appeared before the Plan Commission issues were raised concerning the extension
of Illinois Street the exact location of which has not yet been determined The site contains 907
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acres and is located next to the Ritz Charles and ADT which are immediately to the east of
Spring Lake Subdivision There is an individual office building and shopping center towards
Carmel Drive
The second diagram represents an extension of Illinois Street based upon an alternative that from
an engineering perspective was considered by the City as the most desirable location for the
extension of Illinois Street between 116 and Carmel Drive On the site plan the location of the
Illinois Street extension has been super imposed and is a location that is acceptable to Lauth and
would also preserve the approximate lot lines This issue was a part of the Plan Commission
proceeding and not to be considered as a part of this proposal The plot plan before the
Committee does not touch any portion of the proposed street and stands on its own in respect to
one building The proposal is for architectural design lighting landscaping and signage with
respect to that parcel and it is proposed The petitioner has also had discussions with the attorney
who is representing the majority of the homeowners in Williams Creek Farms Estates
The third proposal is similar to the first except that it dips down by the Greg Small parcel
showing a mythical solution to the Illinois Street situation We have met with the homeowners of
Williams Creek to discuss this plan We are proposing to install parking lot lighting consisting
within the rows with a total of sixteen 16 twenty two feet 22 full cut fixtures on eight 8
poles that are a maximum total of twenty five feet 25 with extending arms on each side We
will limit the hours of illumination in the parking lot and on the building The shut off will be one
1 hour after closing or 1000 pm Monday Friday and weekends 8 00 pm in order to
minimi the impact on the residential neighbors We will provide security lighting after hours
Finally we have been asked our intentions for the four residential lots to the north Lauth has a
contractual interest in three of the four lots to the south across from the site Lauth has no
contractual interest in the fourth lot that borders the Small property Lauth is agreeable to a
commitment that will limit the use for residential so that those lots would never seek to rezone or
develop for commercial purposes
Committee Chair I would like to see a show of hands of remonstrators
Two remonstrators
Zeff Weiss ICE MILLER We are not necessarily opposed to this however we are interested
in the residential integrity We believe this area is going to be expanded into more than one
building We are speculating this growth and want to protect the interests of the residents Our
issue is not with what is going on today but future If there were only to be one building it would
probably be centered and development would occur around it With the additional lots parking is
pushed to the west and abuts what will become Illinois Streetthe main thoroughfareafter the
City of Carmel or the State eliminates the access
Mr Small would like an understanding of a few issues The variation on the road that shows a
dip to the east by Mr Smalls propertyas soon as Clarian became a reality we realized that
Illinois Street may in fact come through and we were concerned as to how it would impact Mr
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Smalls property We discussed this matter and this is what came out of the discussion and we
are very hopeful that that is what ultimately happens We recognize that Mr Cook and his client
do not have control over it but our goal is for two items One is to bring this issue to the
attention of the Plan Commission because when the road goes through the City of Carmel will
have to write a check to all of the neighbors including Mr Small and we would like to help
minimize that check The road would go on top of a very valuable house
The second part is that by acquiring these lots anticipating the second building Lauth is
anticipating finding a way to remove the restrictive covenants that are on the property that restrict
commercial use and provide the parking in support of a commercial building Otherwise this
does not work without structured parking The lighting and tree preservation also need to be
addressed We have asked for screening and they are agreeable We would like a commitment
regarding the hours of operation and a commitment that utilizes the property to the west as
residential with a buffer When Illinois Street comes in the buffer will be gone and the impact
will be in Mr Smalls backyard We would also like a commitment to address the hours of
operation Please protect the whole subdivision to the west not just Mr Smalls property
Ed Leer Williams Creek Subdivision Our neighborhood has no objection to the building
Other issues The subdivision property abuts this property and Williams Creek Our commitments
say No property owner shall develop anything but residential and restricted to size We are
opposed to Illinois Street coming close to our addition We are in favor of moving it as far away
from our subdivision east not west We would like to see the dip extend all the way along the
property lines excluding none Second we would like to see more of a down lighting We are
satisfied with the timing of the off lighting Third we would oppose any type of cell or radio
tower or any other type of tower
The Department We are satisfied with items I and 2 landscaping and lighting The ground west
of here is zoned residential To rezone it would require a Use Variance and a new covenant for
commercial development The route of Illinois Street has been approved by Council and now will
go for design there is no timeline yet The City would make efficient use of the property If Lauth
comes in to put a building in the future they will be in conformance with the ordinance This
petition stands on its own merit It does not impact or negotiate a way to mitigate concerns that
are not their concerns I would not attach any kind of commitments to this Item three If you can
address the lighting concerns the light fixtures meet the ordinance height Do we want shorter
poles and more lights or taller poles and lower number of fixtures
Petitioner We made the conservation changes per Scott Brewer The lighting spillover meets
the distribution We have never hidden our future plans for development There is a second
building proposed mirroring the first We would then be required to acquire more parking We
know there are private covenants we need to deal with and we look forward to meeting with the
residents We are about the 97 acres for development and we are not asking for variances or
waivers
Jerry Chomanczuk Committee Chair
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The Committee What will Illinois Street do to the parking at Ritz Charles ADT and the
buildings south of ADT There is no guaranteed access to the building The access for this site
and building is by a small frontage road only This is a monster building on a frontage road This is
a disaster waiting to happen and will cause us to build Illinois
More discussion from Committee members regarding the proposed Illinois Street extension
building access without Illinois Street dumpster location and rezoning
John Molitor Legal Counsel Public access is a key component The Citys Thoroughfare Plan
does show the extension of Illinois Street
The Department They have examined the proposal and our expectation of what the State
will do to the Highway Our concern is what will happen to ADT and Ritz Charles when Illinois
Street is developed The Ordinance does say we are required to provide access to the other
parcels I think it has been the assumption that they would have the ability to get to Illinois Street
after the States improvements
The Committee There is concern about traffic patterns without Illinois Street being built today
It has been said by remonstrators that this building is maxing out the site with or without Illinois
Street We believe there is need for more reasonable discussion on this and therefore would like
legal counsel to review this petition To allow time for counsel review the Committee would like
to table until the next Committee meeting
Petitioner We are against a tabling
Mark Ratterman made a Motion to Table to the next Special Studies Committee meeting
September 7 2004 seconded by Steve Stromquist Motion carried Four 4 in favor one 1
opposed
3 Docket No 04050048 DP Amend
North Haven Block D lots 1 2 CP Morgan Buildings 2 3
Filed by Blair Carmosino of Duke Construction
The applicant seeks approval to build two office buildings The site is located at the northwest
corner of 96 Street and Gray Road The site is zoned R5 Residence
Blair Carmosino Duke Construction and Don Centers were present on behalf of the petitioner
The first presentation did not have the supplemental information We have brought with us three
3 new photos of the building We have made an amendment to the footprint into another
configuration The materials will remain the same We are currently making resolution with Mr
Bottamiller on drainage Both of the proposed office buildings will be occupied by CP Morgan
244 parking spaces are proposed in accordance with the Ordinance
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SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE
OCTOBER 5 2004
SPECIAL MEETING
530 PM
The Special Study Committee met in a Special Meeting at 530 PM October 5 2004 in the Caucus
Rooms of City Hall
Members present Jerry Chomanczuk Wayne Haney Mark Rattermann Steve Stromquist Madeleine
Torres late arrival thereby establishing a quorum
Jon Dobosiewicz Department of Community Services attended the Special Meeting as well as John
Molitor Legal Counsel
The Committee considered the following single item
1 Docket No 04050053 DP ADLS North Meridian Medial Pavilion
The applicant seeks approval for a medicaloffice building The site is located northwest of Old
Meridian Street and Meridian Street US 31 The site is zoned B 3 and B6Business within
the US 31 Overlay Zone
Filed by Tom Eagley of Lauth Property Group
Mike Cook attorney 201 North Illinois Street Indianapolis appeared before the Committee
representing the applicant Attending on behalf of the Lauth Property Group Dan Barkes and Todd
Jenson
Zeff Weis attorney 3100 American Square Indianapolis attended the meeting on behalf of his client
Greg Small also in attendance
Mike Cook submitted proposed commitments in regard to the Medical Pavilion east of Illinois Street
The commitments covered eight items as follows 1 Parking lot lighting 2 Building lighting 3
Height of light poles in the west parking lot 4 No free standing cellular towers or similar free
standing towers 5 Directory and building identification signs 6 Screening of rooftop equipment
7 Hours and days of trash pickup 8 No above ground structures or improvementsexceptions as
noted within that portion of the real estate formerly comprising a part of Williams Creek Farms
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Subdivision
There is an agreement in principal with Greg Small regarding the second building The expanded
development is to be heard at the October 19 2004 full Plan Commission meeting
Department Comments Jon Dobosiewicz The additional items and expanded development will be
heard October 19 include plat vacation and rezone At this time the Department recommends
forwarding this item to the full Commission with a positive recommendation
Zeff Weis 3100 American Square together with client Greg Small agreed to support going forward at
this time and will return on October 19 2004 with everything buttoned up
Mark Rattermann made formal motion to recommend approval of Docket No 04050053 DPADLS
North Meridian Medical Pavilion including commitments to the full Plan Commission at its
meeting of October 19 The motion was seconded by Steve Stromquist and approved 4 0
Jerry Chomanczuk Chairperson
Ramona Hancock Secretary
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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
October 5 2004
Special Session
630 pm
The Special Session of the Carmel Plan Commission met at 630 PM in the Council Chambers of City
Hall Carmel Indiana The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance
Members present Stephanie Blackman Jerry Chomanczuk Dan Dutcher Wayne Haney Dianna
Knoll Mark Rattermann Rick Ripma Steve Stromquist Madeleine Torres Susan Westermeier
thereby establishing a quorum
Also present Mike Hollibaugh Director of the Department of Community Services and John
Molitor legal counsel
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li Docket No 04050053 DPADLS North Meridian Medical Pavilion
The applicant seeks approval for a medicaloffice building The site is located
northwest of Old Meridian Street and Meridian Street US 31 The site is zoned B 3
and B 6 Business within the US 31 Overlay Zone
Filed by Tom Eagley of Lauth Property Group
Mike Cook attorney with offices at One Indiana Square Suite 1800 Indianapolis appeared before
the Commission representing the petitioner Also in attendance Dan Barkes and Todd Jenkins
Lauth Property Group
This petition was presented to the Commission a few months ago and it has been before the Special
Study Committee for several sessions for review The petitioner seeks to construct a single three
story building containing 88902 square feet generally located on a site at 12202 North Meridian
Street next to the Ritz Charles and east of Williams Creek Farms Subdivision The site is zoned
partially B 3 Business partially B 6 Business
The exterior of the building is architectural pre cast glass and architectural metal panels reddish
brown and buffcreme in color The transformers and trash enclosures proposed are located on the
southeast cornerfull enclosedconstructed of the same materials as the building The rooftop
mechanical equipment will be screened as a part of the general design of the building The parking
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lot consists of 378 parking spaces and exceeds the requirements under the Ordinance
The ingress egress to this site is currently proposed off the frontage road There is now a tentative
final plan for the route of the extension of Illinois Street from 116 Street and Carmel Drive The
proposed route for the extension of Illinois Street affects two parcels one of which is occupied by
Greg Small the other is occupied by Dr Spann Most of the other lots in the Williams Creek Farms
Subdivision are considerably back from the proposed extension of Illinois Street
Lauth Property controls three of the four lots in the Subdivision that are directly adjacent to where
Illinois Street will be extended This proposal is the first part of a project that is proposed and
consists of two buildings each containing the same amount of square footage That particular part of
the project is coming before the Plan Commission on October 19 2004 as part of the public hearings
This evening there is only one building before the Plan Commission The site plan only encompasses
907 acres The petitioner has worked quite hard and the neighbors have worked very hard in
discussions concerning this matter Considerable progress has been made in those discussions and
that is evidenced by the fact that there are no neighbors in attendance this evening to remonstrate
against this proposal There is an agreement in principal with Mr Small and Dr Spannthe two
most affected lots within Williams Creek Farms Subdivision by two things whatever impact the
proposed development has and whatever impact the extension of Illinois Street will have While
those agreements have not been finalized they are well under way to being finalized The petitioner
is in discussion with the other neighbors in Williams Creek Farms Subdivisionrepresented by an
attorneyand the attorney was aware of these proceedings Neither the residents from that
Subdivision nor the attorney is in attendance this evening and progress is being made Again there
is no final agreement but it is anticipated there will be by October 19
One of the things the petitioner has agreed to do is enter into some commitments regarding this
development Those commitments have been presented to the Commission and the Department The
petitioner agrees that any approval this evening should be subject to formalizing the commitments
and recording them Those commitments relate to cellular towers signage permitted on site trash
pick up and part of the commercial development that would incorporate those partial lots that will
be bisected by Illinois Street Those commitments have been reviewed and approved by the
interested parties to the extent they are relevant to what is before the Commission this evening the
residential neighbors are in agreement
Jerry Chomanczuk reported for the Special Study Committee Mr Cooks summary captures all of
the salient points that have been discussed over the last three meetings The proposed building will
be a fine looking building in a great location Two issues that took some time were working with the
neighborhood and the alignment and extension of Illinois Street The Committee voted 4 0 in favor
of this petition
Department Comments Jon Dobosiewicz The Department is recommending approval of the
Development Plan subject to the recording of the commitments offered at the Committee level A
special thanks to the Committee members to meet this evening prior to the regularly scheduled
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Committee meetings and to the full Commission in their willingness to meet this evening Once
issues are resolved with all interested parties we can move forward and not unreasonably delay
The Commission members were comfortable with the commitments tendered this evening by the
petitioner
Mark Rattermann echoed thanks to fellow Commissioners and to the petitioner in working with the
neighbors to resolve issues
Dianna Knoll was especially thankful for the resolution of the lighting issues
Mike Hollibaugh Director commented that the Illinois Street extension is the Citys project and
Lauth has been caught in the middle between the neighbors who had one thing in the mind and the
City who had raised the bar quite a bit Illinois Street is an important part of the City Thoroughfare
Plan and this proposal is a good opportunity for us to make Illinois Street happen Throughout the
process the Citys Engineer American Consulting has been working closely with the petitioner and
the neighbors to try and come up with an alignment that meets the Thoroughfare Plan and the Plan
Amendment that was adopted in 2001 We are very close to having this all nailed down at least in
concept The road was pushed farther to the east the needed right ofway is lined out at this point
American Consulting is finalizing a field survey that will help us verify all topographic conditions as
well as create the final documents either for right ofway or actual construction drawings
Jerry Chomanczuk moved for approval of Docket No 04050053 DP ADLS North Meridian
Medical Pavilion subject to the commitments submitted seconded by Rick Ripma APPROVED
10 in favor none opposed
The meeting was adjourned at 650 PM
Dianna Knoll Vice President
Ramona Hancock Secretary
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