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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes RES 11-13-23G'A nF Up City Of Carmel � O f AHA Carmel Plan Commission RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE Monday, November 13, 2023 Meeting Minutes LOCATION: Caucus Rooms, City Hall Members Present: Sue Westermeier (Chair), Dubbie Buckler, Adam Campagna Members Absent: Jeff Hill Staff Present: Alexia Lopez (Planning Administrator), Joe Shestak (Recording Secretary), Mike Hollibaugh (Director of DOCS), Sergey Grechukhin, (Legal Counsel to the Plan Commission) Meeting Time: 6:00 p.m. 1. Docket No. PZ-2023-00014 PUD: Andrews PUD Rezone The applicant seeks PUD rezone approval to allow a new neighborhood consisting of 31 detached single-family homes. The site is located at 4411 E 1461h Street and is zoned R-I/Residence. Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon Dobosiewicz of Nelson & Frankenberger on behalf of Schafer Development, LLC. Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz: ■ With me tonight are Rex Ramage, Jim Shinaver, and the Schafer Development Team ■ The County has control over the changes to 1461h Street ■ There will be a 20-25 ft building setback to the homes adjacent to the shared property line ■ We removed the stub street to the west to Salsberry Landscaping, and kept the stub street to the east Iron Pointe and Remington in Fishers are comparable series of Pulte homes we would like to construct here + All masonry on the front elevations and enhanced side elevations abutting the main street throughfares 2200 - 2750 sq. ft. of living space, does not include garage or basement • A lot of changes have been made since our last meeting and we look forward to hearing your feedback • Staff mentioned they need to look at the updated architecture standards for the single-family homes • We will continue this is to the Dec. 5 Residential Committee for further discussion Department Report: Alexia Lopez • The Petitioner has completely changed their layout, but Planning Staff likes their original site plan better because of the mixed housing diversity they were offering. We've never seen a negative property value when a different home type comes in next to a single-family neighborhood. s Staff will work through the PUD details to make sure it's a well design neighborhood and esthetically pleasing . 146' Street is a typical corridor, and this site would be a good location for their original development • Staff will need time to review the new PUD and look at the new architecture standards We ask this is continued to the Dec. 5 Residential Committee for further discussion Committee Comments: Buckler: I like their new layout better than the old one. If I lived near here, I would rather have this. Campagna: I agree. Campagna: Has there been thought on where the traffic construction will take place. Rex Ramage, Pulte Homes: We will place "No Construction" signage at places along Gray Road, Wellswood Bend, and place barricade at our south entrance at end of the Gray Oaks Ct. cul-de-sac. We will want our main construction entrance to be off of 146' Street. Westermeier: I would like to see some samples of the signage, and the location of the signage. Will you include this language in the PUD? Rex Ramage: Yes, we can provide you examples and include it in the PUD. Westermeier: When would the barricades and signage come down? Jon Dobosiewicz: When a certain percentage, like 80-85% of Certificates of Occupancy is issued, we can take down the signage and barricades. Campagna: I like the community garden and dog park you have proposed. Residential Committee I 1-13-23 Westemeier: Is there an age restriction for this development? Rex Ramage: There's no age restriction in place. Westemeier: What's the Department thought on the removal of the east and west connections? Alexia Lopez: We would really like to see the east connection, even though the County would be taking this land. The County mentioned they would allow a connection. Jon Dobosiewicz: The County would have a ramp that would serve two connections at the future roundabouts north and south of 14611 on Gray Road. Presented a future drawing of 146`" Street & Gray Road Westermeier: I don't ever remember a PUD making such drastic changes. Are there any advantages of now not going through the PUD Rezone? Alexia Lopez: We discussed this with the Petitioner. We have already started the PUD process. Variances would probably be needed. We already have a governing document in their PUD Ordinance, where we can make the updates. It helps to have a document to track all these changes. Rex Ramage: We thought that having one governing document (PUD) guiding this project would be beneficial and help keep track of all the standards. Westermeier: There's only 3 types of homes you will be offering. I think these homes look very monotonous to me. Is there any way to change the look and feel of these. Rex Ramage: With only 31 homes, we typically don't change up the garage orientations. We can vary the architecture. Westermeier: Bring in 10 different elevations for this development. Buckler: What's landscape is planned along the south property line? Rex Ramage: The entirety of the south property line is a 25-ft tree preservation area. We will keep and maintain anything that is not dead or invasive. If we have to remove, we will plant new trees to fill in the gaps. Westermeier: Any plans for overflowing parking? Rex Ramage: Each home has 5 on -site parking spaces, and any overflow parking would take place on the public streets. This item will continue to the Dec. S Residential Committee 2. Docket No. PZ-2023-00138 DP/ADLS: LEO Cottages and Multi -family at The Legacy. The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new apartment complex with 350 units made up of cottage style homes and three 4-story buildings as well as a future commercial parcel. The site is located at the southwest corner of 1461 Street and Community Drive. It is zoned Legacy PUD (Z-501-07 and Z-679-22). Filed by Jim Shinaver and Jon Dobosiewicz of Nelson & Frankenberger, on behalf of Advenir Oakley Development, LLC. Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz: • We are still working out some details with Staff and we know we will come back to this Committee on Dec. 5 Scott Weathers, Advenir • Our main focus is at the retail corner of off Community Drive and Hopewell Pkwy. Apartment unit building A will have gable roof -tops, Juliette balconies, and in -sets of the Pt floor retail. We wanted to use black and white exterior colors on the building so there will be more of a focus on this building. ■ We have not narrowed down any tenants in the retail space, but we will have it ready for commercial ■ I will setup a meeting with Aliza Shalit, Carmel Sign Specialist, to narrow down the signage type and location Department Report: Alexia Lopez We like the adjustments that were made by the Petitioner ■ We asked for more windows and dormers on the cottage homes • We need a legible photometric (lighting) plan For Unit N on the southwest side of the plan, the side facade that faces the street to use all masonry wainscot ■ We would like to see a continuous wainscot feature on the sides of the attached garages to units that have masonry so it will continue all away around the building. • There's so much signage being proposed, so we need to narrow down what signs are going where • Staff recommends this is continued to the Dec. 5 Residential Committee for further discussion Committee Comments: Westermeier: Can you bring in physical examples of your exterior colors? Scott Weathers: Yes, we mostly use earthly tones. We have 19 color pallet variations. 2 Residential Committee 11-13-23 Campagna: Will you be using veneer or real masonry? I don't want a pho brick. Scott Weathers: We will use real masonry brick materials. Westermeier: Where are we at in adding dormers to the front of the 2-bedroom duplex units? Scott Weathers: We would like to add gables to the front, and dormers on the longer portion of the unit. Alexia Lopez: I would like the dormers added to the longer side to help break things up, and most of these facades face the street. Westermeier: We would like to see the bike parking calculations for the entire site. Scott Weathers: Our civil engineer is working on the numbers. I will get you the parking numbers and ratios. We will provide enough per the standards. Westermeier: Is there an enhancement of the 30% masonry requirement, per Staff s request? Scott Weathers: During the zoning process, we agreed to 30%. The PUD states 30% and we will be just over 30% requirement of masonry. The corner units will be all masonry. Westermeier: Where will the trash area be located? Scott Weathers: The centralized location is shown on the site plan, and we will make sure it will be maintained and kept clean. We will offer trash pickup service for residents. Buckler: Will there be any ADA units? Scott Weathers: We will abide by the FHA requirements. This item will continue to the Dec. 5 Residential Committee 3. Docket No. PZ-2023-00153 PP: Asherwood South Subdivision. 4. Docket No. PZ-2023-00184 SW: Asherwood South Waiver — UDO 7.26: Private Streets Not Permitted, Private Streets requested. The applicant seeks primary plat approval and design standards waiver approval for 6 lots on 14.78 acres. The site is located at 9950 Ditch Road. It is zoned S-1/Residential. Filed by Brett Huff with Kimley-Horn on behalf of Gradison Design Build. Petitioner: Justin Moffett, Old Town Design Group: ■ With me tonight is Brett Huff of Kimley-Horn ■ We have a few outstanding items remaining with Staff from our initial public hearing a We wanted to provide a turnaround for our residents, so we are proposing a roundabout with a center island a If there are private streets, then the UDO requires stacking will be provided on the public side of the street. This creates a challenge for us on Royalton Drive, in Deerfield subdivision, provides drawing + Jane Funke, at 1615 Royalton Drive, has requested to not have this connection to our subdivision • We would have to install a cul-de-sac bulb on our side, provide enough clearance for a gate with a knock box and for a firetruck to get through, and a cul-de-sac on their side ■ We don't have a solution; we would want to save the existing mature tree, please the neighbor's request, and meet the UDO requirements, or ask for a waiver. We would refer to the Committee to give us a solution. Brett Huff — a cul-de-sac on their side should have been installed when Deerfield was developed. Alexia Lopez: They left the street stubbed, for future connection, as required by the Ordinance. Committee Comments: Westermeier: In a perfect world, what do you want done? Justin Moffett: As shown in our drawing, add a cul-de-sac on our side, and get the waiver for the Deerfield side, to keep the stub -street a gate connection to our side. Westermeier: Would you like to table this so the Department can figure out what they want at this connection and if an additional waiver is needed? Justin Moffett: We can table this and work out this issue. Docket Nos. PZ-2023-00153 PP & PZ-2023-00184 SW will be tabled to the Dec. S Residential Committee 3 Residential Committee 11-13-23 5. Docket No. PZ-2023-00216 PP/SP: Matriarch Minor Subdivision The applicant seeks minor subdivision plat approval to split 1 parcel into 2 lots along Rangeline Road. The site is located at 520 N Rangeline Rd. and is zoned B-SBusiness within the Old Town Overlay. Filed by Justin Moffett and Rebecca McGuckin with Old Town Companies. Petitioner: Justin Moffett: • This is a simple lot split request, that hopefully someday can be done administratively • There are two existing garages, that will be torn down prior to any development • A 10-ft common area is shown behind these lots, most of the time this is ROW and utility easement. We aren't allowed to do anything with this common area. If approved, we would like the BPW list this as dedicated ROW Department Report: Alexia Lopez ■ This is a minor project, and not a lot of comments have been generated. The district zoning standards are met. • We had to see their revised plans in ProjectDox • Once approved, this request will be heard by BPW • We recommend approval with the condition that the garages are removed prior to the SP process • The BPW will have to dedicate the common alley area to the City public ROW Committee Comments: Buckler: The Committee supports the idea of allowing the common alley area to be dedicated to the City public ROW. A Motion made by Buckler and seconded by C.ampauna to approve Docket No. PZ-2023-00216 PP/SP subject to the garage removals prior to the Secondary Plat process, and all remaining ProjectDox comments are addressed. Approved 3-0, absent Hill. Meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m. Joe S e tak — Recording Secretary Sue Westermeier - Residential Committee Chair Residential Committee 11-13-23 0