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Carmel Plan Commission
COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE
Tuesday, September 5, 2023 Meeting Minutes
Location: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms, 2°d Floor, 1 Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
Members Present: Joshua Kirsh (Chair), Christine Zoccola, Adam Aasen, Chaka Coleman
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Rachel Keesling
Legal Counsel: Ally Lynch-Mcgrath, Sergey Grechukhin
Time of Meeting: 6:00 PM
The Commercial Committee met to review the following items:
1. Docket No. PZ-2023-00141 ADLS Amend: Lake City Bank Remodel.
The applicant seeks approval for exterior building modifications and site improvements to remodel the old Day
Furs building as a new bank. The site is located at 1361 S. Rangeline Rd. It is zoned 13-8/13usiness and is located
in the Rangeline Road Overlay District. Filed by Joe Calderon of Barnes & Thornburg, LLP.
Petitioner: Joe Calderon of Barnes & Thornburg, LLP.
We are taking a building that has a mixture of exterior materials that don't meet the overlay requirements and updating it
to be more in line with the City's expectations for architectural materials and design. Staff emphasized the importance of
making the entry on the south side more pronounced. We have variances that will be heard by BZA at the end of the
month. There is a one-way wrap -around drive that comes in from Rangeline with 45-degree angled parking spots and
although we are losing a few spots, we are keeping parking spot numbers close to the same. This branch is not a retail
emphasis branch, as much as it is a place for management, office, and training. We will be adding new landscaping, trees
on the east end qualify for tree preservation, but they are in bad shape. We are proposing foundation plantings on the west
side, as well as new plantings in the back and along Rangeline (tab 4). We are proposing four-sided architecture and
landscaping updates. Tab 9 outlines ideas on how to make this fit more within the overlay architectural requirements and
bank branding. We introduce masonry into the design of the building, points of emphasis are to keep glazing on the west
elevation, on the south elevation we have an improved entry way, we have carried the design theme on all four sides. We
added lighting fixtures and provided a photometric plan. Staff has noted that review items are met. This is a non-
conforming structure and will be applying for variances.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
We were looking to get 4-sided architecture, adding brick. Taking away the old-style architecture, like the arched window
and the columns, really elevates the building design. In the previous pictures of the entrance on the south side, you can see
how the roof line came down and continued down, we thought it would be a disservice to keep that, so we worked
together to come up with something more modern. The new entrance design reinforces a more modern feel, and it brings
more focus to the south side of the building. We recommend approval tonight subject to final variance approvals from
BZA and finishing TAC process through ProjectDox.
Committee Comments:
Christine Zoccola: Great remodel. Will there be any problems with flow of traffic?
Scott Perkins: There is sufficient space. When there are cars at the ATM or drive-thru, there is space for a bypass lane. It
will go all the way around the building and back out.
Josh Kirsh: Do an audit of what landscaping is on Rangeline now. When the City did the path project, the City reinvested
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in landscaping on private property, and no one kept it up after the tenant left. It looks like a field of weeds, but with a
closer look there may be some plants that are worth saving on the Rangeline frontage, on the private property side,
between multiuse path and the parking.
Scott Perkins: We are adding a sidewalk, improving pedestrian access through that area.
.toe Calderon: We have to coordinate some things with the Urban Forester as well as public works.
Kirsh: One of the trees on the frontage was put back in, so the trees to the north may already be there.
Keesling: Do you mean died and replaced again? Kirsh: Yes.
A Motion made by Christine Zoccola and seconded by Adam Aasen to approve PZ-2023-00141 ADLS Amend:
Lake City Bank Remodel contingent on final variance approvals and TAC approvals.
Approved 4-0.
2. Docket No. PZ-2023-00183 ADLS Amend: Carmel Salt Caves & Spa.
The applicant seeks approval for exterior building modifications and site improvements to remodel an existing
salon into a new spa offering salt therapy treatments. The site is located at 10696 N. College. It is zoned B-
1/Business and is located within the Homeplace Overlay District in the Business Sub -Area. The existing building
is listed on the Carmel Clay Historic Architecture Survey as a contributing building. Filed by Skye Winslow.
Petitioner: Skye Winslow
I want to thank Christina, Rachel, Bill Holt, Aliza, Chris Rohr, Daren Mindham, Alex Jordan, and John Thomas. I am
grateful to be here, I had a brain tumor and got very sick and could not walk. This is my adventure to give back to the
community. I have lived in Carmel 30 years, and I can see how much staff cares. I am hoping to elevate Homeplace. We
moved there about 7 years ago and want to stay and give back. This is over a one -million -dollar investment. The are
manmade caves, with about 20 tons of Himalayan salt that surround the walls. We have a cave builder who has made over
a hundred of these around the country, hers are the very best. We have some salt caves in Indiana, but none as elevated as
these. They are good for salt therapy, respiratory therapy, great for Iung and respiratory as well as skin issues. When you
sit in caves for about 45 minutes, you breathe these microparticles, like standing at the ocean, it cleans out the lungs. HSA
can pay for it. We are also adding an infrared sauna, and another therapy for heavy metal detox. There will only be 3
therapies in the room. I am a certified hypnotherapist. I help people with phobias, PTSD, depression, and pain. Caves are
about therapy. Listening to guided meditations, helps people stop smoking, work is used in over 3,000 hospitals around
the country. This is a historic building built in 1916 for the Fisher family. The portico stays and will be enclosing the front
porch because we need more space to have people recline in the salt cave. We are moving the front door over, with
beautiful brick steps coming up into a retail section of the building. ADA bathroom with a wheelchair lift in the back.
Large cave will be downstairs toward the front and can accommodate 12 people. We also have two more seats that are
community seats for fire fighters (they have a lot of respiratory issues — this service will be free for Carmel FD) and
another chair for those who have difficulty paying for medical needs. The second floor will have another smaller salt cave
(6 people), detox, and another restroom. The basement is Only for employees.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
Once it was determined that this building was on the historic register, it was an elevated effort to make sure we kept
everything as true to the original design as possible. We made sure windows were added back and aligned with dormers
above when enclosing the front porch. Moving the front door to the left (south) will be more functional for them and it
will stay true to the building's character. Sky found a new front door that is period specific to keep the character intact.
Brick is already painted; she will give it a refresh. The siding will be yellow and cream white on all four sides. Parking
will stay the same, new landscaping will be added on the rear of the property. The use is allowed. The only outstanding
item is to work with TAC through the ProjectDox review process. Recommend approval tonight.
Committee Comments:
Christine Zoccola: Glad you are doing a paint refresh; the colors will be charming.
Adam Aasen: Any kind of waste output? Skye Winslow: No. Salt is antimicrobial, antibacterial, we even have UVC
lights, so it kills all viruses when people leave the room. It's a very clean place. Aasen: No bags of salt you are disposing
of. Skye Winslow: We bring in about 20 tons of Himalayan salt and there is 6" of salt on the ground. It's chunks and
boulders glued to the wall. They must stay at about 70 degrees to keep the glue from coming loose. Aasen: No
environmental impact? Skye Winslow: No. There is something called a Halo generator that crushes the salt
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