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Carmel Plan Commission
COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE
Tuesday, November 15, 2023 Meeting Minutes
Location: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms, 2°a Floor, 1 Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
Members Present: Joshua Kirsh (Chair), Christine Zoccola, Adam Aasen, Chaka Coleman
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Rachel Keesling, Aliza Shalit
Legal Counsel: Ally Lynch-Mcgrath
Time of Meeting: 6:00 PM
The Commercial Committee met to review the following items:
1. Docket No. PZ-2023-00202 ADLS Amend: Boneyard Bar & Restaurant.
The applicant seeks approval for exterior building modifications and site improvements to remodel an existing
retail space into a new bar and restaurant with outdoor seating. The site is located at 904 W. Main Street. It is
zoned UC/Urban Core and is not located within any overlay zone. Filed by E. Davis Coots, on behalf of the
owner, Kevin Paul.
Recused: Chaka Coleman
Petitioner: E. Davis Coots.
Previous concerns:
■ Parking issues have been resolved: both next door at the American Legion as well as across the street at the Signature.
Kevin reached out to both and received email responses from The Signature confirming that Boneyard customers and
employees are welcome to use the public portion of their parking structure subject to the limitations set forth in the
parking agreement between The Signature and the City of Carmel (CRC agreement requiring the reservation of spaces
for residence tenants of the mixed -use development). There will be ample spots for overflow. The site plan has been
redesigned and parking onsite complies with the Ordinance requirements for this use and with adjacent parking on the
street parking requirements are exceeded by 9 additional spaces.
■ Bike racks have been relocated closer to the front door and are now within 50 feet of the front door. A second bike rack
has been added where the dumpster used to be.
■ Answered all staff comments on ProjectDox.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
At the last meeting there was a misunderstanding of what was intended for the inside and outside of this space leading to a
misconception of the amount of parking needed. After reviewing the interior design of the space, the amount of parking
required has been reduced significantly due to the amount of seating also being reduced. They meet the requirements for
the restaurant side parking and retail parking for the other half of the building.
Other changes made to the site plan:
• Updated parking: shows where other parking spaces will go instead of leaving the West side of the building as grass
or vacant, planning out for parking now.
• New dumpster enclosure location: it is not too far back on the site, but far enough so it is not at the front of the
building (partially concealed) with the normal required enclosure and will be accessible by trash truck.
• More details have been provided on the fencing around the back.
• Provided color elevations for the outside of the building.
No major changes, just a more formal submittal for the elevations, which we are in support of. Concerns have been
addressed. We will ask you to approve this contingent finalizing all ProjectDox review comments.
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Committee Comments:
Christine Zoccola: It looks like you have one table, four chairs, and a picnic table. I assume there will be more seating
outside in the garden area. Kevin Paul: Yes, we are still planning. We have other utilities we need to accommodate.
There will be a couple of firepits and few picnic tables. Zoccola: Even with that we are still good for parking? The reality
is that there will be more people. Rachel Keesling: The outdoor seating does not contribute to the parking counts. We
focus on the inside number of seats. They removed tables and added pool tables. Kevin Paul: We tried to address
suggestions/concerns from our last meeting. We worked with companies around to provide or sponsor charging stations
for bikes and cars. Tried to create high efficiency parking. Hyundai will provide a charging station. We have tried more
high efficiency parking, EV VIP programs, as well as a lease program with apartment complexes, etc. Adam Aasen: I
feel more comfortable with new calculations. If parking does become an issue later, please seek other agreements with
other neighbors or we can build -in parking restrictions if that becomes an issue. Mind the noise, be aware of the neighbors
nearby. On -street parking we said 11 spots, what is the time limit on that? Josh Kirsh: Mr. Kashman is thinking about the
next year, and will not align perfectly with the timeframe, but probably in the next 12 months. The Main St. project will
be more of an issue for this business opening. Kirsh: I like the charging station idea. How many KWs are they? Kevin
Paul: Hyundai did a site survey, and we are working with Duke, so we had to upgrade all the power, they will be
sufficient for appropriate timing. Kirsh: Did you explore the suggestion about valet battery service? Kevin Paul:
Exploring, but it will be Bosh specific because Petego has too many variations of batteries, chargers, and frames.
A Motion made by Christine Zoccola and seconded by Adam Aasen to approve PZ-2023-00202 ADLS Amend:
Boneyard Bar & Restaurant subject to final approvals of remaining comments on ProjectDox.
Approved 3-0. Chaka recused.
2. Docket No. PZ-2023-00189 DP/ADLS: Midwest Eye Institute at The Bridges.
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new, two-story medical office building on 5.4 acres. The
site is located at the NW corner of Illinois Street and 11 Ith Street and west of the KAR office building. The future
address will be 11220 Illinois Street. It is zoned PUD (The Bridges Z-550-11) and is not within any overlay
district. Filed by Kylie Bright Schuler of American Structurepoint on behalf of the owner, Cornerstone
Companies.
Petitioner: Kylie Bright -Schuler
We have sent RaeheI all the requested information and answered all the comments on ProjectDox. We have provided her
with the interior bike parking information that she requested and are moving forward with the proposed and approved
revised site plan_ We plan to address the landscape plan comment we received today. There are no issues with this.
Department Report: Rachel Keesling:
1 spoke with Daren Mindham (UF) regarding today's landscaping comments. It seems that he was looking at the plan
incorrectly as far as where the roundabout around i 11 ' St. is located. The landscape needed to be evergreen trees and it
was not. They will make the change during the next round of comments. David Littlejohn has suggested that there should
be a bike rack that is floor mounted that would be able to accommodate different types of bikes and heavier bikes that
cannot be lifted onto a rack.
Jeff Savit: That room is plenty big to be able to accommodate this request. Josh Kirsh: Maybe a U-rack or a wall
mounted hoop that somebody can anchor to. Rachel Keesling: We wanted to keep working with the layout of the parking
to make sure it makes sense by looking at ways to make the parking lot more traditional in layout and asked how many
spaces would be available for Phase 3 even though it is not part of this project, but we want to see how that would work
out. We especially would like to add a sidewalk through the middle of the parking lot (from the SW across the site, will be
through the middle of the site). Now we have a set plan for Phase 3 when that comes along. We are in support of all these
changes. They reduced the lighting height for the parking lot to match the medical office building and the apartments that
had agreed to 20ft. The photometric plan looks good. We recommend approval subject to finalizing comments on
ProjectDox and changing the landscaping plan to meet the Ordinance requirement.
Committee Comments:
Christine Zoccola: Will the sidewalk be raised or flat? How will you keep it separated from the rest of the parking lot?
Kyle: There is a curb on both sides of the sidewalk and there are crossing markings as well. Zoccola: As far as
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