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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes COM 11-15-23landscaping within the parking lot, is there enough room in those islands for trees and bushes? Has that gone through landscaping too? Kyle: The issue with the landscaping in question was just that the trees along the berm were deciduous rather than evergreen trees. Zoccola: Can some landscaping be done on either side of the sidewalks to break up all the asphalt? Rachel Keesling: Not directly along the sidewalk, they will have to have parking bumpers to prevent vehicles from going onto the sidewalk. David will make comments regarding this matter on ProjectDox. There isn't a lot of extra room along that sidewalk for extra landscape. They do have islands for landscaping and trees. Chaka Coleman: As long as there is pedestrian safety, that is what is important for me. Adam Aasen: My concern was whether we had enough lighting blocked for neighbors to the South, are we concerned with any lighting getting to the neighbors? Do we have enough landscaping for headlights not to be an issue? Keesling: No issues with light pollution. Kirsh: Are we holding everyone accountable to the same light temperature? The full parking lot should be the same. Keesling: The same company will be doing both parking lots. Aasen: We didn't need to over -light this parking lot since it is mostly a daytime use lot, but most of the time you won't have evening light. As long as we are not over lighting the area. A Motion made by Adam Aasen and seconded by Christine Zoccola to approve PZ-2023-00189 DP/ADLS: Midwest Eye Institute at The Bridges subject to finalizing outstanding ProjectDox comments and Landscape plan adjustments. Approved 4-0. 3. Docket No. PZ-2023-00252 ADLS Amend: Centier Bank — Building Renovation. The applicant seeks design approval to renovate the exterior of an existing building. The site is located at 650 East Carmel Drive. It is zoned B-8Business and is not located within any overlay district. Filed by Kevin Buchheit of Kreig DeVault on behalf of the owner. Petitioner: Kevin Buchheit. The building is about 45-year-old classic red brick, multi -story building. Centier will be moving from the building to the west into this building, a refresh on the fagade would be in order. They will apply stain to the brick that will bring it to a tan/golden color as shown on the color illustrations, a banding around the top will be added that will match the banding over the front door to around the canopy drive-thru, bringing a gray and the blue signature color for Centier Bank. Department Report: Rachel Keesling: We have been through multiple iterations of the design with the Centier staff before Kevin officially brought the item through. The things we worked on are: • placement of the signage, • what the top and bottom banding looked like in comparison to each other, • banding around the drive-thru area, • the new front door moved from corner to center south face. This solution is the most balanced and the least branded. It is important to Staff that the building can remain neutral and standalone regardless of who the main tenant is. These blue bands will be wraps that will go over the columns and the components are extra modular metal pieces that go over the existing surfaces. We are supportive of these updates. Aliza Shalit: Comments have been made on ProjectDox regarding the signage and how if the south facing sign would be allowed on that elevation, then no other signage beyond the two that are proposed would be allowed to be added. if there is ever another tenant that wants a sign on that elevation, then one of those would have to be given back so that the new tenant may also have a sign. Keesling: The sign ordinance doesn't really say who can have the signage, it just says the number of signs. Shalit: Two per street frontage is the maximum. Keesling: Because we give two signs per street frontage, so we are saying that upfront as a warning that if someone demands a sign, there may be a need to relinquish one of the signs on that frontage since there are multiple on the building if they wanted it to be on the side where you have more than one. But on the west side, when the new street comes in, then that is a different situation. Shalit: The west side has a variance for a sign without a street frontage, that is why the existing sign is allowed to be there, so when that street comes in, a spot for a second sign will open up for a new tenant. On the east side it has Keystone as a frontage street. Kevin Buchheit: We will comply with the regulations. Shalit: The signage looks great. Committee Comments: 3 Commercial Committee Minutes 11-15-23 Zoccola: Have you done stain on brick before? Deborah Lumpkin: It is my understanding that stain is more durable, and it looks better. It was one of the concerns with our landlord as well, what will it look like in a couple of years. Kirsh: It sounds like it is like whitewashing, which is more like a stain than a paint. Zoccola: Is it similar to the color of the building next door? Lumpkin: I will have to check; we just brighten up the brick. Keesling: We are confident in the architects and their decisions. If it does not look right, I am confident it will get fixed. Zoccola: Is that blue on the top necessary. Rachel: We looked at multiple solutions that had different variations. We felt that this blue worked with the gray, and it was a little bit of branding and separated the top to give it a formal cap which is a nice defining accent. Kirsh: I am also skeptical about the blue. If the columns in the front are easy to remove if they move out, I could be ok with the blue at the top. Zoccola: Or it could be painted a different color. Lumpkin: PMS metal should be paintable. Kirsh: Would it be a finished surface under the wrap on the columns? To Legal: Should they move out they have to remove the wrap and modular entrance? Ally Lynch-Mcgrath: They would have to come back to Plan Commission anyway. Kirsh: What I want to accomplish is to make it less of a branded building should Centier not be there. Zoccola: Is there a way to have less blue? Lynch-Mcgrath: You can make that condition, that it stays as long as they are there. Kirsh: Can I make it go away with them should they choose not to occupy this building? Keesling: Through the landlord you should be able to. We have sign ordinance requirements that say you can't leave signage up after you leave and these parts could be considered part of the signage. Lynch-Mcgrath: I have no problem with these conditions. Kirsh: My request is that your approval will be conditional on: Should you vacate the building you would remove the pilar wraps and facade modular entry. Zoccola: What would it look like when you remove the covers? Keesling: Finished. Kevin Buchheit: Can you please restate what you would like to see. Kirsh: • All of the brick on the building must be stained whether it's hidden behind the modular facade or otherwise. • Should Centier Bank decide that they want to leave this property, they must remove the modular front entrance elements as well as the column wraps on the drive-thru. What is exempt from removing the top and bottom blue bands? Chaka Coleman: I think you have come up with a good compromise, there are not a lot of ways to make this modern and beautiful. Thank you for your efforts. Deborah Lumpkin: I would like to thank the staff for all their hard work and help in making sure we represent Carmel well, but also represent our brand. A Motion made by Chaka Coleman and seconded by Christine Zoccola to approve PZ-2023-00252 ADLS Amend: Centier Bank — Building Renovation subject to all the brick on building being stained, should Centier Bank decide to vacate this property, Centier will remove the modular front entrance design as well as the column wraps on the drive through. Top and bottom band blue elements may remain. Approved 4-0. Meeting ad jnurned ajt-6:,49 PM. it /—/ Recording Secretary 4 Commercial Committee Minutes 11-15-23