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Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Notes from Carmel City Engineer
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Krawczyk, Dawn <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov>Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 9:25 AM
To: Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Cc: "Shestak, Joe" <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>
Good morning, Abigail. Below are some notes from the city engineer regarding the design of your fence.
These typically show up on the actual permit, but I thought you might need to know ahead of time in case
the fence company needs to make changes to the style of fence. Let me know if you have3 any questions.
Fence pickets shall be at least 2-inches above the ground surface to allow for surface water drainage.
Dawn Krawczyk
Administrative Assistant
City of Carmel
Department of Community Services
Building Safety & Code Enforcement
One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 571-2475
dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov
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Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Fence Permit Application Link for 837 Bridle Ct
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Krawczyk, Dawn <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov>Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 2:02 PM
To: Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Good afternoon, Abigail. Joe informed me that you have applied for a variance. As part of the variance process, they will
ask you to start your fence permit application. Below is the link to apply. You will not be asked to pay for anything until it is
approved. Let me know if you have any questions.
PublicAccess (in.gov)
Dawn Krawczyk
Administrative Assistant
City of Carmel
Department of Community Services
Building Safety & Code Enforcement
One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 571-2475
dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov
Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:13 PM
To: "Krawczyk, Dawn" <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov>
Done!
Thanks Dawn :)
-Abby, 317-410-1044
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Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Fence Height Variance - 837 Bridle Ct
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Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 4
To: Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Cc: "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmel.in.gov>, "Krawczyk, Dawn" <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov>
Good evening, Abby:
The Carmel Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) Section 5.09 explains the fence standards. If you want a fence taller than 6-ft, you would need to apply for a Development Standards Varia
from UDO Section 5.09 C.
With variances, you have to prove a practical difficulty or hardship as to why you cannot comply with the Zoning Ordinance regulations.
Planning Staff can be supportive of having your item heard by a BZA Hearing Officer, rather than the full 5-member Board of Zoning Appeals. Hearing Officer Variance items have a lesser filin
fee, a more compressed timeline, and are more likely to be approved.
I have attached a Handout about the Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) Hearing Officer Development Standards Variance process that contains instructions, a checklist, templates, affidavits, etc
However, the official creation and filing of the BZA Hearing Officer Development Standards Variance (Single Fam) application must be done on the online application portal. Then
few days after that, you or whomever is listed at the ProjectDox/ePlan contact person will get invited to the project via email and will also receive an Applicant Upload task. That is where you/t
will upload things like an aerial photo, site plan with location of fence, photos of the fence, findings of fact, etc. (ProjectDox is our online plan review software.)
The BZA webpage contains things like the Calendar, Flowchart of the Process, and more.
Fees associated for a BZA Hearing Officer petition:
Filing Fees for Single-Family Residential = $207.25.
Public Notice Sign = $100-$200
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Hamilton County Official Adjoining Property Owners List = $25 (make sure to select Carmel BZA as the Jurisdiction type)
Certificates of Mailings (mailed notices to neighbors) = $7 - $12
Current in Carmel Legal Ad publication of the public notice = $10 - $15
Your Variance filing fee isn’t due until 10 days prior to your meeting date.
The filing deadline for a BZA HO meeting is 28 days prior to your meeting date. You would need to submit online application here by March 25. You would first create a login, then select the
following:
Planning & Zoning
Board of Zoning Appeals
Development Standards Variance – Hearing Officer, Single Family (SF)
Information you can use when you fill out your online application:
Parcel Number: 17-09-24-01-01-045.000
Deeded Owner: Zisk, Stephen & Abigail Zisk h&w
Address: 837 Bridle Ct
Legal Descrip on: Acreage .33 Sec on 24, Township 18, Range 3 HUNTER'S CREEK VILLAGE Sec on 1 Lot 45
Property Use: One Family Dwelling Pla ed
Zoning District: R-1
April 22 BZA Hearing Officer meeting timeline
filing deadline for online application 3/25/2024 Mon., by Noon
public notice deadline for mailings/sign posting 4/12/2024 Fri., by 5pm
deadline for public notice legal ad to be sent to The
Current in Carmel (so that it prints on Tues. April 9)
3/29/2024 Fri., by 5pm
fees/packets due, agenda released 4/12/2024 Fri., by Noon
dept. report issued, proof of notice due 4/17/2024 Wed., by Noon
BZA Hearing Officer meeting 4/22/2024 Mon. @ 5 or 5:15pm, TBD
After you have submitted your online application, a few days later you will get an email invite from ProjectDox/Avolve to upload your plans/documents for review.
All Public Notice requirements must be completed by 10 days prior to your meeting date. Failure to do so would result in Planning Staff tabling your Variance petition to the next month. Public
notice requirements are spelled out in the attached handout, but they include:
Public Notice sign placed in the yard, viewable from street, 10 days prior to your meeting date.
Mailed public notices via Certificates of Mailings to your adjoining property owners need to be mailed out 10 days prior to your meeting date. You would obtain the Official Adjoiners List
here.
Legal Ad of your public notice is sent to the Current in Carmel. NOTE: The Current in Carmel has different deadline (not 10 days) to submit your public notice, but they will publish your
public notice on a Tuesday, prior to the 10-day deadline. Staff would email you the contact for them once you are assigned a docket number.
Below are direct links to some approved variance petitions for fences. Feel free to go through these proposals, since you will be required to go through the same process and provide public no
an info packet, findings of fact, etc. Let me know if you have any questions.
(V) Foley Fence Height Variance. Info Packet
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket No. PZ-2024-00017 V UDO Sec on 5.09 Maximum 3.5- and 6- fence heights allowed, 8- requested.
The site is located at 30 Twinshore Ct. (Woodland Springs Subdivision, Lot 30). It is zoned R1/Residence. Filed by Katherine Foley, owner.
(V) Doniela Fence Height Variance. Info Packet
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket No. PZ-2023-00245 V UDO Sec on 5.09 (B) Maximum 42-inch tall fence in the front yard allowed; 60-inch height requested.
The site is located at 3549 W 131st St. (not in any subdivision). It is zoned S1/Residence. Filed by E. Davis Coots of Coots Henke & Wheeler, P.C., on behalf Andrius Doniela / 131st LLC
owner.
(V) 3240 E. 104th St. Fence Variance. Info Packet
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
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Docket No. PZ-2023-00147 V UDO Sec on 5.09 (B) Maximum 42 inch fence allowed in the front yard, 72 inches requested. Also, minimum 25% visibility required, 0%
visibility requested.
The corner lot site is located at 3240 E. 104th St. (Glenwood Subdivision, Lot 49). It is zoned S2/Residence. Filed by Thanh Ho on behalf of Tuyet Nguyen, owner.
(V) Brennan Residence, Fence Height Variance. Info Packet
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket No. PZ-2023-00177 V UDO Sec on 5.09(C) Maximum 6’ tall fence along side/rear property line allowed, 8’ requested.
The site is located at 107 Benne Rd. (Village of Mt. Carmel Subdivision Lot 50). It is zoned S2/Residence. Filed by Kevin Brennan, owner.
(V) Rice Fence Height Variance. Info Packet
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket No. PZ-2022-00099 V PUD Ordinance Z-598-14, Sec on 7.1.C Maximum 36” tall fence in front yard allowed, 48” fence requested.
The site is located at 1484 Windpump Way (Sunrise on the Monon Subdivision Lot 27). It is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development. Filed by Jus n Rice, owner.
Joe Shestak
Planner II
City of Carmel
Department of Community Services
Division of Planning & Zoning
One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 571-2419 | jshestak@carmel.in.gov
From: Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 5:13 PM
To: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>
Subject: Fwd: RFI Submi ed - Zisk
Hello Jeff!
Dawn Krawczyk suggested I reach out to you to talk about the possibility of a variance to get a privacy fence a bit taller in our backyard.
Please let me know what the next steps would be!
Thanks so much,
Abby Zisk
(317)410-1044
adairabby96@gmail.com
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From: Krawczyk, Dawn <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov>
Date: Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: RFI Submitted - Zisk
To: Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Hey Abigail. Unfortunately, no.. a 6 ft fence is allowed.. you could put up something taller right around your patio..or on your patio. To do something taller in the yard you w
need a variance. Please contact Joe if you have any variance questions.
From: Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 3:25 PM
To: Krawczyk, Dawn <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov>
Subject: Re: RFI Submi ed - Zisk
Hello and thank you so much for your quick reply!
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So am I understanding correctly that you are saying we could build a fence up to 9 feet tall around the backyard?
I am attaching a photo of our survey showing the placement of the current backyard fence. (I also highlighted the current fence in yellow)
So are you saying we could replace the old backyard fence with a 9 foot fence?
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Thanks!
-Abby
-317-410-1044
Adairabby96@gmail.com
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 1:35 PM Krawczyk, Dawn <dkrawczyk@carmel.in.gov> wrote:
Good afternoon, Abigail. Below is a link to your subdivision plat. Above is a larger version of your lot. For this subdivision the front year buildable line is 35 ft back from
property line.for the sides and back yard there isn’t enough space so you would be allowed a 9’ fence or privacy panels around your deck or patio. If you would like to
discuss the possibility of a variance you would talk to Joe Shestak at jshestak@carmel.in.gov ph# 317-571-2419.
https://cocdocs.carmel.in.gov/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=2093632&dbid=0&repo=CityofCarmel
From: LFWORKFLOW@CARMEL.IN.GOV <LFWORKFLOW@CARMEL.IN.GOV>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 10:36 AM
To: Informa on Requests <inforequests@carmel.in.gov>
Subject: RFI Submi ed - Zisk
We have received the following RFI:
Name: Abigail Zisk
E-mail: adairabby96@gmail.com
Address of Request: 837 Bridle Ct, , Carmel, IN, 46032, United States
Subdivision:
Request: Requesting the site plan/plot plan to find buildable area for fence. (Hoping to build fence a bit taller than 6 feet because
house is on hill and all neighbors are looking into our yard, ha!)
Hearing Officer Development Standards Variance Handout 2024.docx
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Abigail Adair <adairabby96@gmail.com>Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 5:21 PM
To: "Shestak, Joe" <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>
Hello Joe,
Thank you SO much for all of the information!
I reviewed the approved Variance examples (specifically the Brennan and Folley residence, as they pertained to backyard fences), and it appears we are in a similar situation. In one of
the correspondence files on the Brennan case, he had said "...upon a quick google view by your staff I was told the likelyhood of that variance was high based on the backyard"
Would you be able to weigh in similarly for our case? It sounds like we would have a similar request to the Brennan case: we are surrounded by residential family houses, and with out
house on a hill, I know our neighbors would be more than happy to have a visually aesthetic privacy fence installed. But would like to get your feedback before moving forward with the
variance request: would hate to waste anyone's time if you think we are barking up the wrong tree.
Our address is 837 Bridle Ct, Carmel, IN 46032
Thanks so much,
Abby Zisk
317-410-1044
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Formatted Parcel NoOwner NameOwner AddressOwner CityOwner Zip
17-09-24-01-01-047.000Alvis, Robert & Susan A840 Bridle CirCarmel46032
17-09-24-01-01-036.000Campbell, Paul E832 Bridle CtCarmel46032
17-09-24-01-01-044.000Johnson, Maia & Aaron D w&h849 Bridle CtCarmel46032
17-09-24-01-01-037.000Korff, David S & Rosemary E h&w844 Bridle CtCarmel46032
17-09-24-01-01-035.000Nalley, Marcus E & Angela M828 Bridle CtCarmel46032
17-09-24-01-01-046.000Warner, Jonathan B830 Bridle CirCarmel46032