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Home My WebLink AboutLandscape info & comments -, -, - - ~ "~ rL ~ ;r i T ..-'-,Siir f i' t ",,- , l\ J..... "" "! ~ = -. ! ~ :;. ~ ,. " \ tQ ... . .- 11\ ~ ... 1 4 - <C - .. ~ ~ .It " ..~ 1 ~ , '" ,,1 ... ,t -- ~ "'r=" 5 ..~ "!: <- i tU ~ ~ .~ 2. ~ ~ j.~;- t.U ~ \Q - \f) J- 2- .{ ~ Z ~~ \ll r: a F~c' i- o ~ ~" '"Z.. "'- .... ~ , .. .. - .. ::: - .., :: .... "" .... - ~ c ~ ~ <: - ", ~ .. ~ .- l,J Q '" '" < ~ .llI: ::: Q ::; ,.Q -= e.I C. o ~ i ~ - ~ > e.I Q E ~ .(, . ... ~ a. t..; ....z a. _ ~vt u'-" 3 0 ~ Zu :Sz ....0 <.J~ < = Z ~ U ~ - - "" .. l. 1- '. City of Carmel , . DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES January 7, 2003 Mr. Blair Carmosino Duke Construction 600 East 96th Street, Suite 100 Indianapolis, IN 46240 RE: Hamilton Crossing Building #6 Landscape Plan Dear Mr. Carmosino: I received your reply to my comment letter yesterday (January 6, 2003) and would like to address several of your reply comments. I also need to say I have not received a copy of the plan revisions with the additional plantings you refer in your letter. I will need to review a copy to determine if the plan meets ordinance requirements. My additional comments are as follows: 1. Please substitute an alternative ornamental species for the ornamental pears (Pyrus calleryana). European hornbeam (Carpinus betulus), hophornbeam (Ostrya virginana), or yellowwood (Cladrastis kentukea) could be appropriate substitutes species. The State of Maryland now includes Pvrus callervana on their list of invasive species, and the National Wildlife Federation will soon follow suit. I have attached some information concerning the invasive problems .with this species. Pyrus calleryana is also on the NOT RECOMMEDED species section of Carmel's Urban Forestry website (also attached. Invasive species and exotic pests have become a major problem facing the landscape industry in the United States. We can limit the scope of this problem in our area by not planting any more invasive species. 5. A species of greater mature height than Maiden grass (Mascanthus sinensis) should be chosen for around the parking garage building. Plume grass (Erianthus ravennae) is one example that would provide a better scale for the garage. A species of upright growing shrub would also work. Jon Dobosiewicz may have additional comments on the aesthetics of the structure. I felt my comments were based on aesthetics, not just screening, but you may work out this comment with Jon and any structure comments he has. 7. While the timing of the State oflndiana's ramp requirements is still in question, some provision needs to be made to buffer the (Phase 2) affected sections in the ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571.2417 -; meantime. I would entertain a proposal for adequate "temporary" buffer of thickly planted ornamental grasses or tall maturing native landscape shrubs that might later be transplanted when the ramps specifications from the State are known. A commitment should also be made to plant the required buffer within a certain time period if the State has decided not to move forward with plans for the ramp from US 31, I would think that two years would be adequate for reach some conclusion. You may work out a suitable timeline for commitment on landscape plantings for this area with Jon Dobosiewicz. Jon feels confident that a State of Indiana decision will be made in 6 to 12 months. A letter of commitment detailing the plantings that are to be installed by a selected date would be sufficient to cover my concerns. This allows Duke Construction to put off the affected plantings until a more appropriate date, but does not leave that date open-ended. Please reply to these comments by in writing and by amended plans. Please contact me at 317-571-2478 or by email atSbrewer@ci.canne1.in.us. Sincerely, Scott Brewer Urban Forester, Department of Community Services CC: Jon Dobosiewicz, DOCS Subject: RE: The Plague of Pears comes to town. Additions of the Bradford pear and its cultivars to the invasive species list WE NEED YOUR HELP! Montgomery County has this year planted Bradford Pear cultivars in median strips after being warned since 1999 that we were in for a "plague of pears" and given alternatives. There are hundreds just starting to flower now on along the median strips and perhaps elsewhere as well. Are there any thoughts on how we can get the Bradford Pear and its cultivars to the invasive species list before our towns and woods are taken over by it? I don't know how to stop this kind of irresponsible planting otherwise. What a horrible waste! I am going to try and get the county to remove and replace these trees but I need support and help. I have attached Craig Tufts observations and the "Plague of Pears" article again below. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. -Kathy Michels 1701 Ladd St. Silver Spring, MD 20902 ph: 301-435-6031, 649-5684 fax: 301-402-0779 Michelsk@nih.gov -----Original Message----- From: Michels, Kathleen (FIC) [SMTP:Kathleen_Michels@nih.gov] Subject: [NativePlantseast] RE: The Plague of Pears- Invasion of our wildlands Lots of requests for the Pear article so here it is. I also copied Craig Tuft's observation below. If anyone has seen Melaeuca - the comparison is frightening indeed. The important point to note is that from an invasive standpoint THE CUL TIV ARS are the problem!! I hope this helps to convince everyone to work on getting all the Pyrus calleryana (ESPECIALLY THE CUL TIVARS) out of our landscapes and wildlands. - Kathy Michels We are seeing swarms of these cultivar hybrids coming up along Rt 7 and Rt 50 in Loudoun and Fairfax Counties, VA. In some areas, stem densities of saplings remind me more of melaleuca in Florida than anything else I can think of. I will pass your note along to friends who have Arbor Day contacts. Perhaps we can help them in justifying dropping this tree. Craig Tufts, Chief Naturalist, National Wildlife Federation The Comina PlaQue of Pears By: Bob Stewart, Area Extension Educator, University of Maryland, Cooperative Extension, Prince George's County Office While driving the Capital Beltway around Washington, D.C. this past April, I began noticing a large number of white flowering trees in the areas just off the road. For the following three weeks I continued to see these same white flowered I trees everywhere. They weren't dogwoods. They weren't wild cherries or shad blow Amelanchier. Finally, driving along Route 450 in Bowie, my curiosity got the better of me and I pulled off the road and had a closer look at one of these trees. It was a pear. Not the common edible pear, Pyrus communis but the ornamental pear, Pyrus calleryana. It was obvious from where these trees were growing they weren't planned plantings. These trees were coming up wild and in tremendous numbers. In the spot in Bowie, I counted over one hundred trees in a stretch of neglected ground about 100 feet long and 50 feet wide. They were so thick that in places the individual young trees grew only a foot or two apart. We seem to have a new horticultural plague on our hands in Maryland, a plague of pears. In 1918, the USDA was searching in China for improved root-stock plants for our commercial pear varieties. More than 100 pounds of Pyrus calleryana seed was brought back and sown at the USDA Plant Introduction Station in Glenn Dale, Maryland. A vigorous non-spiny seedling, found among the normally spiny Pyrus calleryana seedlings was selected out and given the name Bradford. The Bradford pear was quite a tree. It was fast growing, had dark shiny leaves and had a wonderfully formal shape. It grew easily and was adaptable to a wide range of site conditions. It wasn't troubled by bug or disease, and it was loved universally by the nursery world, landscaper, and homeowner. In 1982, the National Landscape Association voted it the second most popular tree in America, just behind the flowering crabapple. Oh yes, there was another nice thing about the Bradford pear, since most trees were identical clones, propagated by grafting, it didn't self-pollinate and didn't produce fruit. The Cinderella story of the Bradford pear ended once it was discovered that these trees begin to fall apart when they reach an age of about twenty years, right at the pinnacle of their landscape glory. The very narrow crotch angles of the erect and plentiful branches are weak, and a gusty thunderstorm or a coating of wet snow or ice will bring the branches crashing down. In an attempt to make a better Bradford there appeared a succession of new Callery pear cultivars. These had improved, or at least different, branching patterns with less chance of the branch breaking problem. Now the Bradford was not alone. There were other callery pears in the landscape to keep it company. There was the Aristocrat pear, and the Chanticleer pear, and the Redspire pear. There was also something else cross pollination among the Callery pears. Suddenly Bradford and the other pears began to produce fruit. True, the fruit was small, an inch or less in diameter, but some of the trees produced very large quantities of this small fruit. In some way, and I suspect it may be the birds, the seeds within the fruit is being disseminated far and wide and new hybrid Callery pears are popping up in every vacant lot and along every roadside throughout the area. Whether or not a plethora of wild, ornamental pears is a plague depends on who eventually cleans up the ground on which they are rising up like new sown grass. Mowing over an overgrown patch of weeds is one thing; removing hundreds of four and five inch caliper trees is quite another. I live down the road apiece in Southern Maryland, and the other day I was picking up trash along the county road right-of-way in front of our house. Standing straight and tall out of the long grass and ragweed plants were two broom-stick stem-sized Callery pear seedlings. The invasion is on Carmel Indiana Department of Community Services ~ Ulmus parvifolia * - Chinese / Lacebark Elm Ulmus parvifolia * 'Dynasty' - Dynasty Chinese Elm Ulmus 'Pioneer' * - Pioneer Elm Ulmus x hollandica* 'Urban' - Urban Elm *Limit use Undesirable Street Trees: Comments: Acer negundo - Boxelder: Aggressive, Shallow roots, Weak wood Acer rubrum - Red Maple: Shallow roots, Easily damaged, Chlorotic Acer saccharinum - Silver Maple: Aggressive, Shallow roots, Weak wood Ailanthus altissima - Tree of Heaven: Seeds, Suckers, Weak wood Betula papyrifera - Paper Birch: Insects Betula pendula - Euorpean White Birch: Insects Elaeagnus angustifolia - Russian Olive: Form, Disease Fraxinus velutina glabra - Modesto Ash: Sidewalk damage problems Ginkgo biloba - Female - Female Ginkgo: Fruits Morus species - Mulberry: Fruits, Shallow roots Picea or Pinus species - Spruce or Pine: Shallow roots, Low branches, Salt spray Pyrus calleryana 'Bradford' - Bradford Pear: Weak branching, Low branches Populus alba - White Poplar: Suckers, Shallow roots, Weak wood Populus deltoides - Cottonwood: Weak wood, Shallow roots, Seeds Populus nigra 'Italica' - Lombardy Poplar: Insects, Disease, Short-lived Quercus palustris - Pin Oak: Soil problems, Yellowing, Low branches Salix species - Willow: Weak wood, Shallow roots Ulmus americana - American Elm: Insects, Disease http://www.ci.carmel.in.us/services/DOCS/DOCSUFCarrnelTreeSuggestions.htm Page 5 of6 1/7/2003 'i' Carmel Indiana Department of Community Services Page 4 of6 Corylus colurna - Turkish Filbert Eucommia ulmoides - Hardy Rubber Tree Fagus grandifolia - American Beech Fagus sylvatica - European Beech Fraxinus americana - White Ash Fraxinus pennsylvanica - Green Ash Ginkgo biloba - Ginkgo (male only) Gleditsia triacanthos inermis 'Moraine' - Moraine Honeylocust Gleditsia triacanthos inermis 'Shademaster' - Shademaster Honeylocust Gymnoclanus dioica - Kentucky Coffeetree Liriodendron tulipifera - Tuliptree Magnolia acuminata - Cucumber Magnolia Metasequoia glyptostroboides - Dawn Redwood Platanus x acerifolia 'Bloodgood' - Bloodgood London Planetree Platanus x acerifolia 'Columbia' - Columbia London Planetree Platanus x acerifolia 'Liberty' - Liberty London Planetree Quercus alba - Wh ite Oak Quercus bicolor - Swamp White Oak Quercus coccinea - Scarlet Oak Quercus macrocarpa - Bur Oak Quercus muehlenbergii - Chinkapin Oak Quercus rubra - Northern Red Oak Taxodium distichum - Bald Cypress Tilia americana 'Redmond' - Redmond Linden Tilia tomentosa - Silver Linden http://www.ci.carme1.in.us/services/DOCS/DOCSUFCarmeITreeSuggestions.htm 1/7/2003 Carmel Indiana Department of Community Services Page 3 of6 Alnus cordata - Italian Alder ~ Alnus glutinosa - European Black Alder Betula nigra - River Birch Betula nigra - River Birch Carpinus betulus - European Hornbeam Cladrastiskentukea - Yellowwood Fagus sylvatica 'Purpurea Tricolor' or 'Roseo-marginata' - Tricolor Beech Gleditsia triacanthos inermis 'Impcole'-Imperial Honeylocust Koelreuteria paniculata - Golden-Rain Tree Nyssa sylvatica - Sourgum I Blackgum Ostrya virginiana - Hophornbeam Phellodendron amurense 'Macho' - Male Corktree Quercus robur 'Fastigiata' - Pyramidal English Oak Quercus robur'Skyrocket' - Skyrocket English Oak Sophora japonica - pagodatree Tilia cordata 'Corzam' - Corinthian Littleleaf Linden Tilia x f1avescens 'Glenleven' - Glenleven Hybrid Linden LARGE TREES Suitable for tree lawns at least 8 feet wide and not under wires Acer nigrum - Black Maple Acer platanoides 'Emerald Queen' - Emerald Queen Norway Maple Celtis laevigata 'All Seasons' - All Seasons Sugarberry Celtis occidentalis 'Prairie Pride' - Prairie Pride Hackberry Cercidiphyllum japonicum - Katsura Tree http://www.ci.carme1.in.us/servicesIDOCSIDOCSUFCarmelTreeSuggestions.htm 117/2003 Carmel Indiana Department of Community Services Page 2 of6 ;- Prunus virginiana 'Canada Red Select' - Canada Red Select Cherry Sorbus tianshanica 'Dwarf Crown' - Turkestan Mountain Ash Syringa reticulata 'Ivory Silk' - Ivory Silk Japanese Tree Lilac SMALL TREES with broad crowns Suitable for tree lawns at least 8 feet wide. and under wires. Acer campestre - Hedge Maple Acer ginnala - Amur Maple Acer tartarian - Tartarian Maple Amelanchier laevis 'Cumulus'- Cumulus Serviceberry Carpinus caroliniana - American Hornbeam Cercis canadensis - Redbud Chionanthus virginicus - Fringetree Camus altemifolia - Pagoda Dogwood Halesia carolina - Silverbell Maackia amurensis - Amur Maackia or Mayday Tree Malus spp. - Crabapple Varieties *: Centzam, Red Splender, Red Jewel, Van Eseltine, Zumi "See Indiana Urban Forest Council's recommended Crabapple list." Prunus virginiana 'Shubert' - Shubert Chokecherry Robinia pseuacacia 'Globehead' - Globe Locust Syringa reticulata - Japanese Tree Lilac */imit use - over planted genus MEDIUM TREES Suitable for tree lawns 6 to 8 feet wide. but not under wires. Aesculus x camea 'Briotii' - Rubyred Horsechestnut http://www.ci.carmeLin.us/services/DOCS/DOCSUFCarmelTreeSuggestions.htm 1/7/2003 Carmel Indiana Department of Community Services Page 1 of6 D EPAR TMEj\IT OF C OM~~vfUlifI'lory S ER VICES .. ,! Planning & ,! Zoning Carmel Trees Street Tree Species Recommendations List This following list is provided as a guide to the most appropriate species for street tree plantings in urban areas. There is no single perfect tree; the most successful course is to match the planting site limitations with the right tree for that spot. Each site must be evaluated and possible restrictions of tree species noted. These restrictions include rooting space, soil texture, soil pH, drainage, exposure, overhead wires and surrounding building surfaces. The trees appearing on this list have different requirements and tolerances. All of these species should do well in the urban forest environment of Carmel. Before selecting any particular species or variety, further research should be done to ensure that the site would satisfy the specific requirements of the plant. Some of the species or cultivars listed here may not be readily available at local nurseries, particularly in calipers large enough for planting in high traffic areas. Tree shelters and staking may provide limited protection. SMALL TREES with narrow crowns Suitable for tree lawns 3 to 5 feet wide. and under wires. Acer griseurn - Paperbark Maple Arne/anchier arborea - Shad blow Serviceberry Arne/anchier x grandif/ora 'Robin Hill' - Robin Hill Serviceberry Comus kousa - Kousa Dogwood Fraxinus pennsy/vanica 'Leprachan' - Leprachan Ash Magno/ia x quinquepeta 'Galaxy' - Galaxy Magnolia Prunus serru/ata 'Amanogawa' - Amanogawa Oriental Cherry http://www.ci.carme1.in.us/services/DOCS/DOCSUFCanneITreeSuggestions.htm 1/7/2003 .. J1 , Duke CONSTRUCTION Blair D. Carmosino Development Services Duke Realty Corporation 600 E. 96,h Street Suite 100 Indianapolis, iN 46240 PH: 317-808-6179 Fax 808-6797 blair. Carmosino@dukerealty.com January 6, 2003 __ /...:(-~ \ I ,.:-:-;-..... Hamilton Crossing - Building VI Landscape Plan/<:\" .~. ~'Zi<>~ Scott Brewer (~.~ \~~~ ~ \~~.\ CUrba~ PClanner ~ ~$J ~ ~ C) ity 0 armel '1._ \~ ~~ ;' ", Department of Community Services . r ~~ ~~ / ::./ One Civic Square \' /f~/ Carmel, IN 46032 ,_/~\\,/ _I :._~;:..,/ Dear Scott, .i We have received and reviewed your comment letter on the above referenced project. . Below are responses to all comments/issues raised in your letter with action items noted. Thank you for providing a letter of this nature. It assists with making sure all comments are adequately addressed. I will be referring to the numbering in your letter, which is attached for reference. Item 1 - The species we have chosen for this building reflect a continuation of the landscape theme established for the entire development and are species that we are comfortable using based on our long-term maintenance and up keep of the Hamilton Crossing development. Unless specific code requirement dictate changing of these species we prefer to leave as specified on our original application. Item 2 - This issue has been eliminated with revisions to the plans to increase screening along the west line of the property. Additional spruce plantings have been added/substituted in this location. Item 3 - The addition of the spruces on the west property line as noted above provides the additional plantings for compliance. Item 4 - The red maples (Acer rubrem) has performed well on our projects. Our 20 years plus of specifying, planting and maintaining these species has given us no reason to substitute this species. Item 5 - We would prefer to stay with the specified maiden grass variety ('morning light') which grows to a 5'-6' height as evident at our Parkwood VI building. The plantings next to the garage are not intended to "screen" the garage but rather enhance the aesthetics C1f the structure and the property. The appropriate visual screening of the garage is better done with the additional spruces planted on site a greater distance from the structure. ' 600 East 96th Street Suite 100 Indianapolis, IN 46240 317.808.6000 www.dukerealty.com Atlanta Chicago Cincinnati Cleveland Columbus Dallas Indianapolis Minneapolis Nashville Orlando Raleigh S1. Louis Tampa ;- , Duke CONSTRUCTION Blair D. Carmosino Development Sen'ices Duke Realty Corporation 600 E. 96,h Street Suite 100 Indianapolis, IN 46240 PH: 317-808-6179 Fax 808-6797 blair. Carmosino@dukerealty.com Item 6 - The graphic planting details will be added as requested and will show with the submission of the final plans for this project. Item 7 - Although we understand your concerns with the timeliness of the ramp and the associated plantings, we are reluctant to plant anything in this location even if it can be relocated. Although the intentions of relocating plantings in this area are good, it will be difficult to assume that a contractor performing the work on the ramp will carry through those plans. We would rather wait until a decision on this ramp is rendered. It is our understanding that a decision on the ramp is due within the next year. In the event no ramp will be located at this location, these any plantings in this area will be move northward to the 1318t Street R/W. In the event a ramp is chosen for this location, then the exact delineation of the R/W for this ramp will follow shortly behind the decision which will establish a well defined construction line that will provide us the confidence': that our plantings can be installed once and begin their growth in a location that will not change. Should you have any questions or require further information please contact me directly. Sincerely, ,1{2C- Blair Carmosino Development Services cc: Jon Dobosiewicz, Steve Granner, Larry Longman, Brant Kercheval, Joe Rogers, Alan Tucker, file 600 East 96th Street Suite 100 Indianapolis, IN 46240 317.808.6000 www.dukerealty.com Atlanta Chicago Cincinnati Cleveland Columbus Dallas Indianapolis Minneapolis Nashville Orlando Raleigh St. Louis Tampa ;' City of Carmel DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES December 17, 2002 Mr. Blair Carmosino Duke Construction 600 East 96th Street, Suite 100 Indianapolis, IN 46240 RE: Hamilton Crossing Building #6 Landscape Plan Dear Mr. Carmosino: These comments are based on review of plans received in this office, and reflect my comments made in the T AC Meeting in November 20, 2002: 1. Please substitute an alternative ornamental species for the ornamental pears (Pyrus cal/eryana). European hornbeam (Carpinus betu/us), hophornbeam (Ostrya virginana), or yellowwood (C/adrastis kentukea) could be appropriate substitutes species. 2. Hawthorns or other species with thorns should not be planted with 10 feet of a driveway or walking path or sidewalk. 3. It does not appear that you meet the buffering requirements found in Carmel Ordinance 26.4 for the west side where the border is a thoroughfare and residential subdivision. That should be a level "D" buffer of 5 shade trees, 5 ornamental trees, and 27 shrubs (or 9 evergreens) per 100 linear feet increment. 4. Red maples (Acer rubrem) do not fair well as street or parking lot trees. Please choose a more appropriate hardwood species as an alternative. Since you already have 31 other maples on site, please choose a species outside the Acer family. ' 5. A species of greater mature height than Maiden grass (Mas canthus sinensis) should be chosen for around the parking garage building. Plume grass (Erianthus ravennae) is one example that would provide a better scale for the garage. A species of upright growing shrub would alsp work. ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL,INDIANA 46032 317/571.2417- ;' 6. A graphic planting detail is needed for the plans. The detail must show planting requirements by notes and graphic drawings including the plant material root flairs must be installed at grade level, bindings and the upper third of the burlap must be removed, and any other planting details required. 7. While the timing of the State ofIndiana's ramp requirements is still in question, some provision needs to be made to buffer the (Phase 2) affected sections in the meantime. I would entertain a proposal for adequate "temporary" buffer ofthickly planted ornamental grasses or tall maturing native landscape shrubs that might later be transplanted when the ramps specifications from the State are known. A commitment should also be made to plant the required buffer within a certain time period if the State has decided not to move forward with plans for the ramp from US 31, I would think that two years would be adequate-for reach some conclusion. Please reply to these comments by in writing and by amended plans. Please contact me at 317-571-2478 or by email atSbrewer@ci.carmel.in.us. Sincerely, ~ Scott Brewer Urban Forester, Department of Community Services CC: Jon Dobosiewicz, DOCS o