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Plan Commission
Special Study Committee
November 14, 2000
Members present were Madeline Fitzgerald; Kevin Kirby; Bob Modisett, Jim O'Neal; Pat
Rice; and Paul Spranger. Staff members present were Director Steve Engelking, Mike
Hollibaugh, and Terry Jones. Leo Dierckman is not able to attend tonight's meeting;
however, he did provide a written comment on the meeting for all committee members.
Item #2, Liberty Mutual Insurance requests a Tabling to the December meeting.
However, the Department recommends forwarding to full Plan Commission with a
recommendation for dismissal.
Also, Item #7 incorrectly appears on tonight's Agenda and should be disregarded.
In addition, the Chairman suggests a special meeting either Tuesday or Thursday
following Thanksgiving to deal with Traffic Engineering as related to Parkwood
Crossing. The meeting will be in Council Chambers on Thursday, November 30 at 7
p.m.
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1. Docket No. 106-99 SP & 107-99DP/ADLS; Carmel Science &
Technology Park, Block 14, Lot 3
Petitioner seeks approval to plat one lot on 3.533+- acres and to construct seven
seven self-storage buildings with office totaling - 69,300 square feet to be known
as Carmel Drive Storage. The site is located at 550 West Carmel Drive. The site
is zoned M-3/manufacturing.
Note: This item has been returned to the Special Study Committee from the
October 17, 2000 Plan Commission meeting.
Filed by Keith Bonham of the Tower Design Group, PC.
Ken Keltner appeared before the Committee and gave a brief history of the project. Mr.
Keltner explained they have had two independent feasibility studies done on self-storage
facilities in the area.
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Revel & Underwood is the developer of this project and is represented this evening by
Ronda Lynch. The results of the studies indicate there is a drastic and significant need
for well over 80,000 square feet of self-storage facility in the Carmel. M-3 is the only
zoning that allows this permitted use. The initial application to the Plan Commission was
in December, 1999, at which time some changes were suggested. These have been
incorporated into the plans and include: articulating bump-outs on the west side, using
split-face block and quick brick, extending the roofline the entire length of the project,
and a change in drainage plan suggested by the City Engineer. Also, the landscaping plan
has been changed, and the dumpster is now enclosed.
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They have repositioned the inside four buildings from their earlier north/south orientation
to an east/west one, in order to screen the doors from view. Building E along Carmel
Drive was moved an additional I 0 feet back, to 30 feet total. Building J was moved
from the front to the back of the project, necessitating another change in drainage plan.
More landscaping was added to the east and west sides of the building. Ivy will be on
Building E. The last request was for Building J to have the "bump-outs" changed so the
brick continues and wraps to eliminate the garage door look.
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Mr. Keltner noted letters of approval on file from Theresa Brust at the Carmel Performing
Arts Studio, the President of Browning Investments, and Amy Pennman, project manager
of ATAPCO.
Five member~ ofthis committee visited the site, and Mr. Keltner complimented members
for their suggestions, which have improved the project overall.
An additional change can be made-that of moving the office back an additional 5 feet to
match the bump outs on Building E along Carmel Drive.
The project is in compliance with M-3 ordinance requirements, and with the Carmel
Science and Technology Park. Revised drawings are now on file.
Staff Report: Mr. Engelking reported drainage issues and widening of the curb cut have
been addressed. The drainage easement and access easement to the property to the east
are owned by the same petitioner, but might split at a future point in time. The access
easement for that property must be recorded, action which Mr. Keltner is now
undertaking. That record may not be available prior to a vote by the full Plan
Commission meeting. The Department recommends full approval and release of building
permits once the recorded access easement is available.
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Regarding the curb cut issue, the City Engineer will support a curb cut 8 foot wider than
that submitted, and will seek BPW approval. Landscaping has been improved, and the
new plans have been approved by the Urban Forester as meeting M-3 requirements.
Mr. Spranger formally requested the office for Building E be moved back an additional 5
feet to match bump-outs.
Ms. Fitzgerald asked for clarification of the fencing. Mr. Keltner said the fencing is
wrought iron and will be buffered by landscaping.
Mr. Modisett asked about the sprinkler and irrigation. Mr. Keltner said the system will
be underground.
Questions were asked about a sidewalk; Mr. Keltner said a multi-use path is included in
the plan.
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Madeline Fitzgerald asked about the lighting. Mr. Keltner said the the Carmel Drive side
has two light packs, with nothing on the sides of the buildings.
Mr. Kirby made a motion to recommend approval of Docket No. 106-99 DP/ADLS,
Carmel Science & Technology Park, Block 14, Lot 3, to the full Plan Commission.
Following a second by Ms. Rice, APPROVAL was by a vote of 5 in favor, 0 opposed.
2. Docket No. 92-00 ADLS Amend; Meridian Mark I - Liberty Mutual
Insurance
The petitioner has requested TABLING.
Mr. Engelking said Staff recommends returning this item to the full Plan Commission,
and then recommends dismissal of the petition, after which they could not come back for
six months from the date of dismissal. The petitioner will be notified ofthis committee's
action; they are aware of this possibility. They could come to the full Commission with a
presentation next Tuesday.
There was a motion to send the project to the full Commission, which was APPROVED
with a vote of 5 in favor, 0 opposed.
3. Docket No. 131-00 DP/ADLS; Mayflower Park Subdivision, Block 6,
Lot 2
Petitioner seeks approval to establish an auto dealership on 7.351+- acres. The
site is located on the southwest comer of West 99th Street and Michigan Road.
The site is zoned 1-l/industrial and is located in the US 421 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Paul G. Reis of the Reis Law Firm for Chrysler Realty.
Paul Reis, 12358 Hancock St, Carmel, presented the proposed Chrysler dealership on the
former Altum landscaping site. The primary issues at Plan Commission were the
architectural design and landscaping issues. The petitioner continues to work with Staff
to reconcile these issues.
After receiving a letter from Scheer and Scheer, and after discussions with Mike
Hollibaugh, the petitioner has added a balustrade across the top, which hides the
mechanical equipment. "Coins" have been added in lieu of pilasters. Cornice work has
been added on the front and sides. The base element has been extended to eliminate the
curtain wall, and the breaks in the windows now match up with the scoring. The entrance
way was reviewed; there is now separation between the entrance doors, making it more
consistent with the Federal structure. The colors ofthe glass and mullion have been
changed to look more Federal.
The petitioner has had numerous discussions with the Urban Forester and Mike
Hollibaugh. The landscape plan includes 35 trees in the greenbelt, where 24 are required.
There is not an additional six-foot perimeter buffer along the parking area, but more trees
have been added to come close to the requirements.
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Mike Hollibaugh said the design modifications are pretty close, although a 6 ft. planting
strip is still an issue, and will be before the BZA this month. The petitioner is working
with the Department, and at this point Mr. Hollibaugh is not comfortable saying it meets
the ordinance, since the windows and materials may not be in compliance.
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Mr. O'Neal supports the department Staff. Ifitems are contrary to staff report, he will
not be in favor of approval.
Mr. Reis stated the Ordinance provides for 25% dryvit. The split-face is to the rear,
dryvit to the front. The windows are not double-hung, scoring aligns with break in
windows. Coins added, entryway changed-everything that has been asked for has been
done.
Mike confirmed that the building has been modified but it may not be in compliance.
Mr. Kirby wonders if we are meeting the intent of the ordinance. Mr. Hollibaugh
acknowledged the building is attractive, and the petitioner has come some way since the
public hearing.
Ms. Fitzgerald asked if this is an issue of materials, or features of the Federal design.
Mr. Reis again said they have complied with every request except the double-hung
windows.
Mr. Engelking said there are aspects of design anticipated by the ordinance, but needs are
not specifically met. The dryvit exceeds 25%. Non-window includes all non-windows
surfaces around the wall surfaces of the building, not just the front fa~ade.
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Mr. Spranger would like to see a mixture of brick and dryvit for the front fa~ade, and he
feels the keys are an important addition.
Mr. Kirby said many courthouses are limestone, and you would not see a masonry fayade
on these. Mr. Spranger mentioned a simulated limestone.
Mr. Hollibaugh said the ordinance was designed to be restrictive for materials and uses.
We shouldn't go out of our way to compromise the ordinance.
Terry Jones added that the ordinance was designed for developers to understand that if
they want to build a "big box" and can meet these requirements, then this may be a
suitable location. Otherwise, maybe this location is not appropriate for their use.
Terry Jones said interpretation could mean dryvit shall not exceed 20% ofthe non-
window area on each of the four walls. The requirements are stated, along with a caveat
"unless otherwise approved by the board." Staff feels it does not meet the ordinance.
Mr. O'Neal feels the project should go back to the drawing board for re-working. Ms. U
Fitzgerald wants to know if this proposal meets the intent.
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Mr. Reis said the petitioner is comfortable to incorporate brick if this will satisfy the
intent. Mr. Spranger suggested quick brick as opposed to split face block. The coins in
the brick will qualitatively help the building be upscale.
Mr. Kirby suggested they try to go with a double-hung window.
Mr. Hollibaugh said the proposed building is basically a modem one, and it does
incorporate some Federal features and elements. The issue ofthe windows is paramount.
Mr. Reis said the windows are the biggest concern.
Ms. Fitzgerald questioned why there are no sidewalks. Mr. Reis said Browning did not
include that, but there will be a multi-use pathway along 421. Mr. Spranger suggested
one intersecting sidewalk for access to the dealership.
Mr. Reis summarized they will redesign the front fa<;ade to combine masonry with dryvit
materials (20%), the sides and back will be a combination of quickbrick and dryvit.
Limestone keys will remain, as will the cornice. They will modify the landscape plan to
incorporate a sidewalk.
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Mr. Reis indicated they will try to get something to the Department by Friday. Mr.
Engelking said the staff will not be able to fully review revised plans by the meeting date,
but they will certainly commit to some review by that time.
Madeline Fitzgerald made a motion to APPROVE, conditional upon changes and
submittal to the Department. Mr. Kirby seconded the motion. Conditional APPROV AL
was granted by a vote of 4 in favor, 1 opposed (O'Neal).
4. Docket No. 132-00-Z; Dodd Rezone
Petitioner seeks a favorable recommendation for a rezone from the S-l/residence
district to the B-8/business district on 11.35+- acres. The site is located on the
southeast comer of East 146th Street and Hazel Dell Parkway. The site is zoned S-
1/residence.
Filed by Corby D. Thompson of PI urn Creek Partners.
Corby Thompson of PI urn Creek Partners described site plans and architecture. He
compared this site with that at 126th Street and Gray Road, where the site is incorporated
into the adjoining residential neighborhood. The Comprehensive Plan 2020 also
recommends a neighborhood commercial compatible with surrounding uses. Seven
points are noted, including a size ofless than 100,000 square feet; buffering, being
compatible with arterial roadways, and integration into the residential area.
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Additionally, in January a study by the Central Indiana Citizens League was published.
In that report was a recommendation for neighborhood commercial uses, with
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accessibility by walking to mixed use developments. The concept was endorsed by
Vision 2020 and the CICL.
The site is 11.35 acres, bordered on the south by a church, on the west by Hazel Dell
Parkway and Ashton subdivision, on the north by vacant ground and an existing
commercial and retail landscape business, and on the east by Ashmore Trace subdivision.
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The petitioner is working with Ashmore Trace to design adequate landscape and
buffering for nearby residents. This project with pedestrian access, greenspace, and
varied setbacks, is unique to Hamilton County. There will be outdoor seating in several
locations. 126th and Gray has been very well accepted, and this proposed project will
cover less area than that site, with no more than 75,000 square feet on 11.35 acres.
Architecturally we will commit to the type of architecture illustrated, and each building
will require ADLS approval as it comes through the review process.
Mr. Engelking said it is difficult to give a department report, since the department just
received the plans presented this evening, and therefore has not had the opportunity to
review and determine if issues are outstanding, or need to be considered.
Mr. Spranger requested the petitioner make a concerted effort to meet with neighbors.
Ms. Fitzgerald asked that the petitioner determine what the neighbors do not want.
Mr. Thompson agreed to meet with the neighbors and return to the committee.
Jody Burtner, 5542 East 156th Street, Noblesville, said she would prefer to see
surrounding areas developed first, is reluctant to express approval for this project.
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Ted Duly, resident in Ashton at 14588 Whitehall Circle, opposed to the rezone. He is
reluctant to discuss with any developer the color of brick, usage of property, etc. Mr.
Duly believes this property is already properly zoned. There is currently a strip center
approved less than two miles away from this site. Mr. Duly would be happy to meet with
Mr. Thompson to make a list of concerns.
Mr. Kirby indicated he worked on the 2020 Vision, which includes neighborhood service
retail centers. He feels this project meets much of the criteria, although he agrees that this
project may be on a roadway too major to qualify. As a member of the Circle Group,
they continually looked at land use and transportation issues, looking at commercial retail
centers and neighborhood-serving retail dispersed through the community. Limiting auto
trips is what this is all about. The City Council will eventually decide. Since there is a
possibility of rezoning, it is important for neighbors to articulate a list of concerns and
businesses they would not want at this location.
Mr. Kirby said he met with Noblesville officials briefly today to discuss the possibility of
development on the north side of 146th Street. The general consensus is that there will be
some commercial retail at some time on the north side of 146th Street.
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Docket No. 132-00 Z, Dodd Rezone, was TABLED to December 5 Committee Meeting.
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5. Docket No. 139-00 DP/ADLS; Newark Subdivision, Lots 4(part)-7 and
Newark Village Subdivision, Lots 2 & 3
Petitioner seeks approval of an expansion of the Ace Hardware. The site is
located at 731 South Range Line Road. The site is zoned B-7/business and R-
2/residence.
Filed by Paul G. Reis of the Reis Law Firm for Carmel Ace Hardware, Inc.
Mr. Reis indicated he is back at Special Study Committee following the rezone approval
for two lots adjacent to the existing Ace Hardware. The landscaping and architectural
design for the new garden center was pretty much agreed upon at the prior hearing, also
parking to the east. Mr. Reis reported no changes were made at the City Council hearing.
Mr. Engelking said there are some required variances regarding setbacks. The landscape
buffer setback is 30 feet at the north end ofthe property, but does not exist on the east or
south end of the property where it abuts Paunee and Winona. There will be a practical
difficulty in meeting this requirement.
Mr. Reis stated there are streets on the south and east, but the property does not abut
residential properties. Mr. Reis said this is the first time the 30 foot buffer has been
brought to his attention.
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Mr. Spranger asked the distance from the curb to the privacy fence (approximately 25
feet). This area could be used as a linear park with a bench as previously discussed. The
30-foot variance is not required in this zoning classification, there are evergreens already
intact with fencing blocks and canopy trees. The landscaping has been approved already.
Mr. Kirby made a motion to approve the petition with the linear park as previously
discussed, seconded by Jim O'Neal. APPROVAL was by a vote of 5 in favor, 0 opposed.
Terry Jones acknowledged they are still working on the replat of the overall parcel. Some
things may change regarding easements, etc. from the plan presented this evening. These
would be considered minor changes, and would not affect the linear park and the vote this
evemng.
Note: At this point, the Committee took a short recess. Pat Rice exited the meeting and
did not return.
Note: Kevin Kirby to reorder the Agenda to switch Item 6 with Item 10. The motion was
approved unanimously.
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10. Docket No. 171-00 ADLS Amend; West Carmel Center, Block A
Petitioner seeks approval of the sign package for a Walgreens pharmacy and seeks
approval to alter the architectural package approved for the structure as part of
Docket No. 47-99 DP/ADLS. The site is located at 10595 North Michigan Road.
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The site is zoned B-3/business and is located within the US 421/Michigan Road
Overlay Zone.
Filed by Kevin D. McKasson of Glendale Partners for Walgreens.
Dave Coots represented Walgreens. Mr. Coots gave a brief history of this project that
was approved in March, 1999 for a Federal Style retail building. Outlots were presented,
plans for which were also approved at that time. Subsequently, the developer entered into
an agreement with Walgreens for the construction of a Federal Style building on the
outlot that is the comer of I06th Street and 421.
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After construction commenced, the Department issued a stop work order. The building
was 85% complete at that time. Since then, the Petitioner has been working with the
department to resolve the differences in style from the design originally approved, and
what has been constructed to-date. This includes a mansard-style roofto give a story and
a half appearance. They are also attempting to reconfigure the windows to create a
federalist appearance. The gables and overhang are being modified to appear like those
originally approved.
The petitioner is now seeking approval for these changes, so they can return to the Plan
Commission for approval of the amendments. Also, signage approval is being sought.
A variance for size and number is on the November docket for BZA.
Staff report: Steve Engelking acknowledged Mr. Coots' comments as accurate. Several
meetings have occurred with the architect and the petitioner. There was so much
deviation from the originally approved building plans that an amendment to the plan is
required. It is appropriate to now return to the Plan Commission. With plans for other
outlots pending, it is important to be aware of these deviations.
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Mr. Spranger asked if there could be a dryvit break line beneath the guttering on all four
sides. From a streetscape this would have more aesthetic appeal.
Terry Sullivan, General Contractor, said they will work with the Plan Commission. The
area below the truss line to brick could be 9 Yz inches.
Terry Jones stipulated that the petitioner will need to comply with requests of the Plan
Commission in order to gain approval to complete construction. The sign package must
be heard by the BZA to gain approvals for the number and size of the signs, even after the
Plan Commission approves the color. Mr. Coots indicated the petitioner's willingness to
reduce sign brightness if requested.
Terry Jones commented the color, indicated to be black and red, may not blend with the
color of red brick.
The petitioner agreed to do an 18-inch band of dryvit to wrap around the building.
Jim O'Neal made a motion to approve the request, with the exception of sign age,
conditioned upon an 18-inch dryvit band to wrap the building and changing the rear gable
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to reflect the front fa~ade. Bob Modisett seconded the motion and APPROV AL was
granted unanimously.
Mr. O'Neal exited the meeting at this time and did not return.
7. Docket No. 143-00b CPA, 13rt Street and US 31 Interchange
This item appears on the Agenda in error
8. Docket No. 154-00 Parkwood Crossing West PUD
Rezone petition for Dukes-Weeks Realty. The petitioner seeks favorable
recommendation for a rezone from the B-5/business and S-2/residence districts to
a PUD/planned unit development district. The site is located on the northwest
comer of West 96th street and North Meridian Street. The site is zoned S-
2/residence and B-5/business within the U.S. 31 Overlay Zone.
Note: The Public Hearing on this Item has been held open at Plan Commission.
Filed by Steven B. Granner of Bose McKinney & Evans for Duke-Weeks Realty.
Chris Seger of Duke-Weeks, East 96th Street, Cannel said the formal presentation was
made October 17th and they are here this evening to work with the committee and to
answer specific questions. Some minor modifications have been made in the PUD
concerning berms, tree sizes, etc.
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Mr. Spranger said a motion was made and approved that the Traffic Study be carried
forward to a Special meeting on November 30th at 7 p.m. in the Council Chambers. The
complexities of the traffic study will be reviewed at that time. Mr. Spranger encouraged
submittals on behalf of both the petitioner and remonstrators at least a week ahead of that
meeting, to allow review time. Yarger Engineering has submitted material for the
remonstrators, while A & F Engineering has submitted traffic study material for the
petitioner. John Myers of Parsons, Brinckerhoffhas been retained by the Plan
Commission to submit traffic study materials as well.
Steve Granner pointed out changes to the landscape plan in the PUD Ordinance on pages
4,5, and 7. The PUD Ordinance being looked at has a revision date of October 17th. Mr.
Granner also noted changes in the commitments and in the conceptual plan. Chris Sagar
distributed a draft revision of the PUD dated October 25th.
The staff reports the project is consistent with the comprehensive plan for this area. Staff
is still working with the petitioner on tree preservation. The issue is traffic and density.
Dialogue continues.
Alan Tucker ofCSO Architect said they are trying to coordinate the architecture of the
parking areas with that of the buildings, with covered walkways between the parking and
the building, and landscape islands to accent the area.
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They will essentially enclose the dumpsters within the buildings. There will be interior
connections between the buildings.
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Mr. Kirby said this body should go through the Ordinance piece by piece after the
Department has reviewed it.
Discussion on the outlots will include two destination restaurants of 5,000 square feet.
There will be no fast food. Outlots are addressed on page 2 of the PUD Ordinance.
Terry Jones suggested the PUD Ordinance include a separate section for the Outlots, for
ready identification and review.
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Mr. Kirby said we need to think about lllinois Street. A roundabout north of the
interstate is under consideration for lllinois Street. We may want to have a right in/right
out onto Springmill, north to the roundabout, then right back to Illinois and 31, to keep
traffic out of the residential area. There may be variations, and these all need to be part of
the discussion. Kevin Kirby also reported the Redevelopment Commission is working to
fund the infrastructure.
Mr. Kirby made a motion to move this to the December 5th committee meeting. Mr.
Modisett seconded. Mr. Spranger favored receiving the amendment concerning outlots as
soon as possible, certainly by November 30th.
Mr. Steve Fehribach of A & F Engineering said a report has been submitted to the
Commission, and they have responded to a letter from Yarger Engineering, answering
their questions. Additional counts have been taken at the intersection. Steve Fehribach
will be at the meeting on November 30.
Brad Yarger of Yarger Engineering has distributed their traffic reports for 1999 and 2000.
Distributions 1 through 5 can be skipped. There are various scenarios presented. This is
a preliminary document. Brad Yarger will return on November 30th.
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John Myers of Parsons Brinckerhoffsaid he has a status report, including traffic studies.
He is in the role of traffic advisor, and will do a review of the studies. We need to talk
about common existing traffic volumes, seasonal adjustments, background growth rates,
lane utilization on US 31, and distribution of traffic on these roads. He plans to meet
with both parties simultaneously to discuss differences. A number of traffic counts taken
in this area do not coincide. Mr. Myers will bring the issues most relevant to the Plan
Commission, and he is here to serve the commission by helping the members make the
best decision possible.
Mark Rattermann, 11257 St. Andrews Lane, Carmel wanted to remind the Committee
that before traffic, the proposal is a Rezone request. Mr. Rattermann distributed a
handout on the rezone issue, a very important one and needs to be "nailed down" tightly.
Kevin Kirby reiterated John Myers works for the Plan Commission and his opinions will
hold the most weight. The Commission will rely heavily on John Myers' report and
Kevin Kirby cautioned the other Engineering firms not to pick apart Myers' report, but
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work it out with John Myers beforehand. If there are differences, the Commission needs
to know what those differences are.
This item will appear on the December 5,2000 Agenda for the Special Study Committee.
6. Docket No. 146-00 DP/ADLS; West Carmel Center, Block F
Petitioner seeks approval of plans for a 125,000 square-foot Home Depot home
improvement store on 15+- acres. The site is located at 4155 Retail Parkway.
The site is zoned B-3/business and is located within the US 421 Overlay Zone.
Filed by Kevin D. McKasson of Glendale Partners.
Tabled to December 5th meeting at the recommendation of Mr. Engelking after a
request by Mr. Coots. .
9. Docket NO. 162-00Z; North Haven Rezone
Rezone petition for CPM Family Trust and C & J Company. The petitioner seeks
a favorable recommendation for a rezone of 43.083+- acres from the S-
lIresidence district to the R-5/residence district. The site is located northwest of
the intersection of East 96th Street and Gray Road. The site is zoned S-
lIresidence.
Filed by Mark Boyce for C.P. Morgan Communities for CPM Family Trust and C
& J Company.
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Charlie Frankenberger, 4983 St. Charles Place, Carmel is representing JC Hart and CP
Morgan for the real estate. Bordering the site is Gray Road to the east; surrounding uses
are mining operations, Bottamiller Enterprises; soon-to-be developed 96th Street Auto
Park; H.H. Gregg; Palmer Dodge; and the Williamson Run community.
The petitioner feels R-5 zoning provides a good transition, with development for office
use and multi-family dwelling. The rezone is in compliance with the Comprehensive
Plan for this area. The petitioner has held numerous meetings with the Homeowners'
Association of Williamson Run, and has arrived at commitments regarding landscaping.
C.P. Morgan will move their corporate headquarters into the office area, and John Hart's
company plans to manage the apartments.
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Architect Gary Weaver explained there is a large lake on the site, and they have tried very
hard to be sensitive to the neighborhood nearby. They also are working with the Urban
Forester on reforestation. There is an existing creek between Williamson Run and this
development. The buildings will be oriented toward the central area, using the
clubhouse/recreation center as a focal point at entry. The clubhouse will be used by the
apartments as well as the office tenants. There is a jogging trail around the lake, and the
greenway works as a divider between the apartment buildings to the north and the office
buildings to the south. The biggest amenity for both projects is the existing lake. The
apartments are oriented toward the water. Parking lots are broken up into smaller spaces
throughout the project. Parking is also behind the office buildings so the fronts face the
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street. The petitioner has worked with the city and is asking for a 50-foot sideyard to be
coordinated with additional landscaping, rather than the 75 feet required by Ordinance.
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The overall architectural character ties both projects together with building materials and
with scale. Renderings were shown of the proposed office building for C.P. Morgan,
which will set the standard for the rest of the project. The building is mostly brick with
windows lined up in front, like the residential buildings.
Mike Hollibaugh said the Department has no outstanding issues. The petitioner has been
extremely cooperative. Steve Engelking reiterated this project began with a very
productive introductory meeting.
A full set of plans will be delivered to the Department.
Bob Doster of CSO, 2030 East 106th Street, said additional buffering has been added
since the original presentation at Plan Commission.
Madeline Fitzgerald asked whether the jogging path might continue into the adjoining
neighborhood, and Mr. Frankenberger said the neighbors do not want that to happen.
John Hart, President of I.C. Hart, said an asphalt shingle will be used, and colors will
coordinate with the entire community, details of which will be discussed when they come
back to the Commission, following rezone approval.
Mr. Spranger complimented the petitioner on the good design and water features.
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Mr. Modisett asked if one entryway is adequate. Mr. Lillig said it is, and there is an
emergency access drive that can be utilized. The entrance has been widened to a
boulevard width, per Terry Jones.
Mr. Weaver said the trash compactor will be recessed, and will have a brick wall in front.
Mr. Kirby made a motion to approve the petition. Following a second by Mr. Modisett,
APPROVAL was by a vote of 4 in favor, 0 opposed.
Terry Jones asked the committee to consider a housekeeping item with respect to the
statement of commitments for a previous project. The commitments will be checked by
the department just prior to being recorded at the county level. This came about because
of a difference in meeting minutes from the recorded commitments at the site of the
professional buildings near Cannel Drive and Old Meridian, where two buildings almost
connect, with an elbow. The petitioner's recorded commitment reads different than the
meeting minutes regarding when it is necessary to return to the commission if a change to
the development plan is intended. He looked for direction in this case, where there is an
intent to construct a 500 square foot walkway rather than the 2500 square foot building
proposed in the original development plan.
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Mr. Spranger suggested that petitioners in the future be required to have department
approval prior to any commitments being recorded.
There being no further business to come before the Committee, the meeting was
adjourned at 11 :00 PM.
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