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CARMEL/CLAY PLAN COMMISSION
SPECIAL STUDY COMMITTEE
SPECIAL SESSION
MAY 11, 1999
The Special Session of the Special Study Committee was called to order by Rick Sharp,
Chairman, at approximately 7:00 PM in the City Court Room, City Hall, One Civic
Square, Carmel, Indiana.
Committee members present were: Madeline Fitzgerald; Kevin Kirby; Bob Modisett;
James T. O'Neal, Sr.; Pat Rice; Rick Sharp; Paul Spranger; and Dave Cremeans, ex-
officio.
Steve Engelking, Director, and Mark Monroe were in attendance representing the
Department of Community Services.
Items 1 and 2, Dockets 24-99 DP/ADLS and 25.99 PP/SP for BK Partners, were tabled at
the request of the petitioner.
Item 3. Committee to consider Docket No. 30-99 DP/ADLS, Development Plan
and Architectural Design, Landscaping, Lighting, and Signage applications for the C&C
Realty Company. The petitioner seeks approval to construct a 62,500 square foot office
and warehouse complex on 5 acres. The site is located on the west side of Michigan
Road, one-eighth mile north of 96th Street. The site is zoned I-IIIndustrial and is located
partially within the Michigan Road (US 421) Overlay Zone. (Petitioner may also be
appearing before the Board of Zoning Appeals for consideration of Developmental
Standards Variances.)
Filed by Reed Carlson of the C&C Realty Company.
Reed and Stephanie Carlson appeared before the Committee representing the applicant.
The property was initially purchased in 1969--the development was updated in 1997-98
with Mansard roofs, storefront windows, new signage, etc. The petitioner is seeking
approval for the construction of 10,000 square feet of office/warehouse/retail to the front,
and another 45,000 square feet of storage space to the rear. The petitioner has added a
three foot berm structure with landscaping in order to screen the storage space from view.
There are three curb cuts on the property. The exterior of the storage building is concrete
block with metal, corrugated roof
Mark Monroe referred to a memo from the Department dated May 11 th reciting eight
items that are deficient in the proposed development, most of which can be addressed by
either revised plans or by filing for a standards variance.
There were questions from the committee in regard to the landscaping in the
development. There is a requirement for the number of trees to be planted; landscaping is
to be to the front of the building with perimeter plantings. The architectural style will be
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Georgian with cedar shake shingles on the new buildings. The height of the buildings is
an issue. Parking spaces are to be located to the inside of the facility.
The Petitioner agreed to work closely with the Department in regard to landscaping. The
petitioner will return to the June I st committee meeting.
Item 4. Committee to consider Docket No. 31-99 Z, a rezone application for
Glenwood, LLC. The petitioner seeks approval to rezone less than one acre from R-
3/Residence to B-I/Business. This site is located at 10820 North College Avenue. The
site is currently zoned R-3/Residence.
Filed by Leonard Voigt of Glenwood, LLC.
Doug Floyd, attorney, 970 Logan Street, Noblesville, appeared before the Committee
representing the applicant. The petitioner is operating a medical service laboratory in an
area designated R-3/Residence.
The Department stated that the proposed (or existing) business use does not meet the
criteria of the Comprehensive Plan. There is not adequate buffering between the business
and residential neighborhood; it is not near another community facility; there are no
sidewalks or pedestrian facilities; the building fronts on College, a secondary arterial.
There are a number of limitations to a business in this particular area. The existing
businesses in the area have been approved by Variance through the Board of Zoning
Appeals.
Kevin Kirby brought up the possibility of applying Central Business Standards such as
those in the Old Towne area. There are commercial properties in the area. Mr. Kirby
commented that he would lean towards rezoning the property. At present, there is no
sign on the building identifying it as a business.
Mark Monroe responded that the businesses in Old Towne were rezoned from Main
Street north, on both sides of the street. However, there are still residences in the area.
Pat Rice commented that she was not in favor of rezoning the property when there is no
plan in place.
Mark stated that it makes some sense, with proper control, to rezone all the properties on
both sides of the street from 106th Street north on College Avenue, with proper access,
drainage, buffering, etc. to probably Illth Street.
Jim O'Neal stated that he would like to see sidewalks installed in the Home Place area.
Dave Cremeans stated that the public service buildings, i.e. the fire department, the
Government Center, the Clay West Library & Museum, do not change the character of
the area to business--these are public service buildings and not commercial.
Madeline Fitzgerald commented that she had a problem with "spot rezoning."
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Jim O'Neal moved to Table Docket No. 31-99 Z, rezone application for Glenwood, LLC
until such time as the Plan Commission can study applyin~ the Central Business
Standards and classifications to College Avenue from 106 Street north to III th Street
and beyond. APPROVED 6-0.
Mark Monroe reported that the Blockbuster facility does not conform to the existing
businesses within Merchants Square--the awnings do not match .
Pat Rice asked if there were some guidance criteria in the standards of illumination.
Jim O'Neal asked if anything could be done regarding the vacant property north of the
Cost Plus Maket and opposite the Old Navy Store; the property is very unkempt and is an
eyesore to the rest of the area. The Department will write a letter requesting clean-up.
Item 8. Committee to consider Docket No. 84-98 CPA, proposed amendments to the
Carmel/Clay Comprehensive Plan, specifically Chapter 6, the Thoroughfare Plan.
Filed by the Plan Commission.
Dave Cremeans reported that he was getting some telephone calls regarding 140 feet of
right-of-way from some persons who have owned land for some time in Clay West where
there is no right-of-way. In conversations with the Department and doing some personal
computations, 100 feet of right-of-way will allow for a nice, four-lane road with a grassy
median and a sidewalk on either side.
Kevin Kirby commented that the "rule of thumb" today is 120 feet for a four-lane road;
this will sufficiently allow for utilities.
Paul Spranger brought up turning radius for trucks at intersections. Currently the
specifications allow for "WB 20." Paul Spranger proposed that the specifications for
turning radius be reduced to WB 15 in all residential areas of the township unless there
are commercial areas immediately adjacent to the intersections. These intersections are:
96th Street and SpringmiIl north to 146th Street, and Springmill to Michigan Road.
It was the consensus of the Committee that a formal letter should be sent to the Hamilton
County Commissioners requesting the change in turning radius from WB 20 to WB 15;
this would be in the form of a resolution. The letter will be initiated by the Special Study
Committee with the full support of the Plan Commission (at its ng on T day, May
18, 1999.
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Rarpona Hancock, Secretary
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