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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 10-16-02 !II~ /o-/~ -02- TAC again next month with a revised set of plans. Their intent is to go before the Plan Commission in December to get overall approval of the layout. This meeting is to flush out some of the main comments we need to know to proceed with before moving to final design. This project will be back several times. A department letter is given to Jeff. Along Range Line Rd, we need to see a single set of the improvements. You should coordinate with the county so the plans reflect our discussion here today. You need to file a Plat Vacation for those portions of the Walters Subdivision. Please label the setback ramps for theUS31 r-o-w. Once you have this completed and submitted to INDOT, you need to ask for a response to the Development Plan. Comment 6: needs to be changed with regard to the setback, per the ordinance, which shows it as 45'. In addition to that you are purposing a 50' pipeline easement, which also effects the placement of that building. Landscape islands are purposed within that easement. Does the required plantings propose a problem for that easement? You will need to identify a 10' landscape setback along 146th Street. There is a hardscape planned along Range Line Road. As you get south of those building, the ordinance calls for a 10' asphalt path that needs to be illustrated. Pat, Shell said it is okay. We will provide an approval letter. Jeff, can that path stop at the road that goes back into Walters Plaza rather than all the way to the highway? Will there be a crosswalk across the highway? Jon, I would look to you to answer those questions for us. If that is in the form of a crosswalk or a separated grade crossing, I am looking for the compliance to the thoroughfare plan. You might need to escrow money to construct the path later. This depends on what INDOT decides. Comment 10: we are looking for a significant number of islands to break up the spans of asphalt. Signage is not part of the real estate on your design. The ordinance adopted by the council permits signage to be located on the real estate. This cannot be placed in the right of way. Comment 13 is a big concern: you need to complete the buffer per the ordinance. You need to revise the plans accordingly. A meeting will be set to go over Jon's department letter in more detail. Jeff, our intention was to show the setbacks measured from the state highway r-o-w. We will show that we have fee simple ownership. Range Line Rd improvements will be completed at one time. Motorcycles of Indianapolis (Amended Development Plan) The site is located at 4146 East 96th Street. The site is zoned B-3 (Business). Filed by Bill Keller of KES Consultants, Inc. for Motorcycles of Indianapolis. Bill Keller passed around the room prints of the front of the building. The site is on the north side of the street adjacent to the Honda Dealership. At one time it was the Dellen Olds and Mercury Dealerships. It is at 96th Street and Bower Drive across from Precedent Office Park in Marion County. The existing building is approximately 22,400 SF and was built in 1996. It will be a show room and service facility for motorcycles. The project we are completing this time is: S:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac20020ctober 21 1) we would like to change the front canopy of the building to something a little more stylish. We would like to build a new canopy on the west side of the building for a cover over the motorcycles. One of the problems presently, is the service area is small enough that once the motorcycle is finished, there is no place to put it. They have to leave it outside. When an owner comes in to pay a "$1,000" service bill, they don't want to see their possession left in inclement conditions. Mr. Dellen would like to build a canopy of about 3,000 SF on the west side of the building for the convenience of the customer. 2) The next portion of the project is a small office addition to the building on the east side. This would be between Bower Drive East and the building itself. The Dellens operated their automotive group out of an office in the Honda Dealership. They still own the building but lease it all out to Honda. They would like to be at their facility and operate in their main headquarters. It will consist of approximately 2400 SF. This will be a one-story office for a few executives and support staff. The flavor of the building is going to change a little because of the canopy. The canopies are going to be arched, curved, and a little higher in elevation than the existing canopies. No change in the sign on the building. There is one street sign out front. The architecture for the office addition (the building is a split face masonry block) will be consistent with the windows to match the existing facade. We bounced around a bit with the colors. They have decided to stay the same. Essentially, the building is a dark brown painted block. It might be a shade lighter. The canopies will be a bronze color. No new parking. When the dealership was sold, the buildings were retained. They built a masonry wall around the west and north sides of the "motorcycle property". They built the wall for leasing purposes. The masonry wall is 8' high and separates the two facilities. We will be loosing five parking spaces on the east side with the addition of the office and eight spaces on the south side with the revised canopy. We have some parking we did not use before; thus, we still meet the requirements for parking spaces. There are no new drainage structures. The landscaping is in place except for some low lying planting along 96th Street and a small amount along Bower Drive which was planted but did not survive when street was widen the last time. When snow gets plowed, the area sits under the "snirt". They are more than willing to put those back in and they will match the landscaping around the building. Steve No Comment. Chuck No Comment. Dick sent a letter to Bill. I could not tell the scope of the project but now you have explained it. Normally we need more than is shown on the plans. We should have a civil drawing. We have a survey now and more is coming. I should have a full report to you next week. There is a slight change in the drainage. Everything is paved; we are not adding any paving. We will do the calculations. The only change would be to take a little drainage on the southeast comer of that addition to get it out to the parking lot. Steve, I will defer to Jon my question regarding the right-of-way on 96th Street. In my letter to you are the thoroughfare requirements. Bill, I am aware that the survey picked up the actual line and we have not updated this drawing. It will be on the civil drawing. There is a comer jog for the right-of-way but we have the correct S:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac20020ctober 22 line now. The line shown on the east side is the 75' line from the center. It is 144' from the right- of-way line to the front of the canopy. Steve, the only other issue on drainage is the asphalt path. I understand the swale is not longer there and is closing off. There is sidewalk along this area. Jon, we might ask for an additional right-of-way at the comer. We need to get the information before you go before the Board of Zoning Appeals. This would be parallel to road and a comer cut at the intersection. This would not get into your improvements. Be sure to get with engineering and let them know you will be looking for a response. The petition you will have in front of the Plan Commission in November will be on the ADLS Amendment. The variance on the setbacks at Bower Drive to the building will be at the BZA meeting in November. Scott would like a set of revised plans. We ask you to restore what landscaping has been lost over time. John South, due to the small area of construction, erosion control is not a major issue. Gary faxed a letter requesting a Knox Box. Bill Keller has a Knox Box there now on the east side of the building. If you want it relocated, please let us know what location would be best. Gary confirms it can be left in its current location. Bill Akers No Comment. Jon, the need for the civil drawing to identify the setbacks and the potential for the dedication of right-of-way at the comer should be submitted soon. Other than that you have described some of conditions adequately. You will need to submit plans or renderings of the building elevation with the proposed colors to the Plan Commission on this ADLS Amendment. Bill Keller questions Jon about the department letter: you state the publication should be in the Indianapolis Star only and it is only for the Variance request. Jon notes this is correct. Cherry Creek Estates - Formerly Cherry Tree Estates (Primary Plat) The applicant seeks approval to plat a 273-10t residential subdivision on 149.562 acres. The site is located on the east side of Hazel Dell Parkway north and south of Cherry Tree Road. The site is zoned S-l/Residential - Low Intensity. Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoeppelwerth & Associates, Inc. for Platinum Properties, LLC. Representatives from Platinum Properties: Paul Rioux and Tim Walter. Representing Stoeppelwerth & Associates: Dennis Olmstead. S:TechnicalAdvisoryCommittee\Minutes\tac20020ctober 23