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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE
June 05, 2007
Minutes
The Special Studies Committee of the Cannel Plan Commission met in the Caucus Rooms of
City Hall at 6:00 PM June 05, 2007. Members present: Wayne Haney, Kevin Heber (late
arrival) Steve Stromquist, Susan Westermeier, thereby establishing a quorum.
DOCS Staff present: Christine Barton-Holms and Rachel Boone. John Molitor, Legal Counsel
was also in attendance.
The Special Studies Committee considered the following items:
1. Docket No. 07030026 ADLS Amend: Hamilton Beverage - Sign age
The applicant seeks approval for two new wall signs.
The site is located at 2290 E. I 16th St. and is zoned B-8/Business.
Filed by Mary Solada for Bingham McHale.
Mary Solada, attorney, Bingham, McHale appeared before the Committee representing the
applicant. Also in attendance: Brad Rider, United Package Liquor.
The Hamilton Beverage building was constructed in the 70's and has been a two-tenant building.
Hamilton Beverage was purchased by United Package Liquor and they are currently remodeling
the building from a two-tenant space to a single tenant space. The exterior fa~ade changes have
been approved; the signage remains to be approved.
On May 21 S\ the Board of Zoning Appeals granted approval for the sign facing east, 50.67 square
feet in size. The sign facing 116th Street was allowed at 75 square feet. The signage is believed
to be appropriate and not excessive.
At this time, the petitioner is requesting ADLS approval of the sign plan that was approved by
the BZA. The petitioner would prefer not to limit the colors on the sign to white and seeks
approval of the Eagle logo, green, white, and red colors for the signage.
Department Report, Christine Barton-Holmes: The Department is requesting one color for the
signs or using day/night plex so that the sign will show as white at night, color during the day.
The Department is recommending positive consideration and approval of one color or white at
night.
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6. Docket No. 07050011 ADLS Amend: Auto Outfitters - Signage
The applicant seeks approval for 1 new tenant wall sign, a monument sign face
change and a new awnings with a sign. The site is located at 10560 N. Michigan
St. and is zoned 1-1. Filed by Jerry Knoop of Auto Outfitters.
Jerry Knoop, Auto Outfitters, 10560 North Michigan Road appeared before the Committee
representing the applicant. Auto Outfitters is proposing an awning to be placed on the southeast
wall facing Michigan Road with vinyl graphics on the front. Currently there is no signage on this
fayade.
Auto Outfitters is also requesting approval for a wall sign for Darrings Detail on the southwest
wall facing Northwestern Drive. Currently there is no signage.
The current ground sign references only Auto Outfitters and would be re-Iabeled as a multi-
tenant sign with the addition of Darrings Detail below Auto Outfitters.
Department Report, Christine Barton-Holmes: The Department prefers individual, illuminated
letters; the awning is acceptable. The Department is recommending positive consideration.
The committee discussed the merits of canvas versus vinyl materials for the awning. The
committee also felt that the sign would stand out more if the existing structure were painted red
to match the logo; the yellow canopy against the salmon color on the stucco finish building
would not stand out.
The petitioner responded that the building was recently painted and it was doubtful that it would
be painted again soon.
Wayne Haney made formal motion to approve Docket No. 07050011 ADLS Amend, Auto
Outfitters, seconded by Susan Westermeier. The vote was two in favor, two opposed (Heber,
Westermeier) for a no-decision vote--petitioner will return to Committee on June 28, 2007.
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The applicant 'seeks approval for 2 new ground signs and 3 incidental directional
signs. The site is located at 12188 N. Meridian St. and is zoned B-6.
Filed by Doug Staley, Jr. of Staley Signs, Inc.
Doug Staley, Jr., Staley Signs appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Also in
attendance: David Campbell, Management Services, and Rich Adams, both with Lauth Property
Group.
The building located at 12188 North Meridian is currently under construction. The applicant is
requesting signage to be located in the middle of two buildings, both oriented to the south.
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The signs are anodized aluminum with black copy, routed aluminum sign-face. The color will
match pre-cast; the silver ties into the building architecture, window mullions, and canopy. The
directional signs are exempt and have no internal light source. The ground monument signs are
internally lit on the copy area only.
Department Report, Rachel Boone: The directory signs will be presented at a later date. The
petitioner is allowed two ground signs per Illinois Street frontage. The Department endorses the
white at iright signage, and considers the directional signs to be tastefully done. At this time the
Department is recommending favorable consideration.
Wayne Haney made formal motion to approve Docket No. 07050010 ADLS Amend, North
Meridian Medical Pavilion Sign age, seconded by Susan Westermeier, Approved 4-0.
8. Docket No. 07050022 ADLS Amend: Radisson Hotel- Sign age
The applicant seeks approval for 3 new wall signs.
The site is located at 251 E. Pennsylvania St. and is zoned B-6.
Filed by Phil Barnard of Freeman Sign Company.
Phil Barnard, Freeman Signs, 7078 West Galen Drive, Avon, Indiana appeared before the
Committee representing the applicant. The applicant is seeking approval to change-out the
Wyndham signs for three new wall signs. T
The signs are flush-mounted to the walls. The sign on the north elevation faces Pennsylvania
Street and is 32.84 square feet-within the Sign Ordinance. The east and west elevations face 1-
465 and each sign will be 68 square feet
The signs are day/night plex and will look black during the day and white at night. A green
underscore will light up green at night. The new set of signs looks bolder, but the size is not
compromised and will balance out.
Department Report, Rachel Boone: A sign variance was initially approved for larger signs at 94
square feet; however, the applicant feels that 68 square feet is adequate. The signs can be seen
fro 1-465 and Pennsylvania Street. At this time, the Department is recommending favorable
consideration.
Wayne Haney made formal motion to approve Docket No. 07050022 ADLS Amend, Radisson
Hotel Sign age as presented, seconded by Susan Westermeier, Approved 4-0.
There was no further business to come before the Committee and the meeting adj oumed at 8: 15
PM.
Steve Stromquist, Chairperson
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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