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Holmes, Christine B
From: Randy Tambourine [rtambourine@rgpt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:01 AM
To: Holmes, Christine B; Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Judy Laskosky; Amanda Gates; smcvicker@signcraftind.com
Subject: RE: Merchant's Square signage
Christine,
We would like to withdraw the variance request that refers to the height of the proposed signs. This is docket
#07020032 V.
Also, I would like to withdraw the variance request that refers to the square footage of the monument signs, if
possible. This would be docket #07020033 V. I am not completely sure how the square footage of the signs is
calculated and whether this variance can be removed or not. If you could determine the disposition of this
variance, I would appreciate it.
Finally, how do we get the favorable recommendation we received from the planning commission presented to the
board as part of our submission? Is there anything that needs to be done from my end?
Thanks for all your help.
Ratnco-Gershenson
TenantCoordinaffon
Randy Tambourine
31500 Northwestern Hwy. 5te. 300
Farmington Hills, MI 48334
248-592-6316
248-592-6317 (fax)
From: Holmes, Christine B [mailto:cholmes@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23,2007 1:39 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Randy Tambourine
Subject: RE: Merchant's Square signage
Since the overall size of the signs has been reduced, we would look on that more favorably.
Christine Barton-Holmes
Planning Administrator
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, Indiana 46032
317.571.2424
317.571.2426 fax
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'Randy Tambourine'
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Subject: RE: Merchant's Square signage
Most likely a more favorable recommendation. Christine can clarify.
Evms = a type of electronic message board
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in.gov
From: Randy Tambourine [mailto:rtambourine@rgpt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23,20079:29 AM
To: Holmes, Christine B; Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Tingley, Connie S; Judy Laskosky
Subject: RE: Merchant's Square signage
Good morning,
I have read all the responses (thank you) and just have a couple of other questions.
1) With the new submittals, will the favorable recommendation then be added?
2) What exactly is an "EVMS" component?
My guess is that if we redesign the pylon on Keystone Ave, it would probably be larger than the 6' height (which I
understand would need to have a variance request) but I doubt it would have the reader board unless we are
contractually required to have it. That is an item I need to research.
Other than that, I will be meeting with my property personnel to continue with this project.
Thank you very m\-lch for your assistance.
Ramco-Gershen~on
Tenant Coordination
Randy Tambourin~
31500 Northwestern Hwy. Ste. 300
Farmington Hills, MI 48334
248-592-6316
248-592-6317 (faX)
From: Holmes, Christine B [mailto:cholmes@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22,20075:03 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Randy Tambourine
Cc: Tingley, Connie S
Subject: RE: Merchant's Square signage
Randy,
My answers are in the email below, as well.
Christine Barton-Holmes
6/1812007
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Planning Administrator
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, Indiana 46032
317.571.2424
317.571.2426 fax
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 2:30 PM
To: 'Randy Tambourine'
Cc: Holmes, Christine B; Tingley, Connie S
Subject: RE: Merchant's Square signage
Randy: I will try to answer most of your questions. However, Christine Barton-Holmes is the new liaison to the
BZA. She can probably answer more of your questions. See below:
I will let Connie know that you want a copy of the meeting minutes, once they are approved.
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square. 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p. 317-571-2417 f. 317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in.gov
From: Randy Tambourine [mailto:rtambourine@rgpt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22,20072:21 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Judy Laskosky; Amanda Gates
Subject: Merchant's Square signage
Good Afternoon Angie,
As a result of last nights meeting, I have a couple of items that I am somewhat confused about.
1) On several of the items, the department was still recommending negative consideration. Was this based on
the old documentation or the new documentation (which I know did not get turned in until Monday).
Not sure.
The department report was based on what had originally been submitted, since the revised drawings were
submitted after the report was published.
2) If this negative consideration is based on the old information and the we were told that we would get a
favorable consideration on the new sign proposal, how do we get that information into the commissions hands for
the next hearing?
Provide revised info packets by June 15. Also the staff's depart report will be released June 20.
3) Since the proposed signage is no longer taller than the ordinance allows and is no longer a variance request,
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can that be dropped from the variance request or does it simply get amended to show that they are now in
compliance?
You should provide us with an email or fax, stating that you want to withdraw that variance request.
4) If Ramco-Gershenson decides to address the pylon sign on Keystone Drive, would that also be restricted to the
6' height, unless we apply for a variance on it?
Yes, it must follow today's sign ordinance standards.
You also would not be able to have the EVMS component without the grant of a variance, since the City's
Ordinance prohibits all signs with moving elements.
5) What time frames are we under to have the info submitted to the city for the next meeting? Also, when is that
next meeting? Provide revised info packets by June 15, so that they can be delivered in time for the June 25 BZA
meeting.
6) Is it possible to get a copy of the minutes for last nights meeting for my file?
Yes, only after they are approved/signed at the next meeting. I will let Connie know.
I think that is it for now, but If I come up with anything else, I will drop you a line.
Thanks for all your help.
Ramco-Gershenson
TenantCoordinauon
Randy Tambourine
31500 Northwestern Hwy. Ste. 300
Farmington Hills, MI 48334
248-592-6316
248-592-6317 (fax)
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Randy Tambourine (rtambourine@rgpt.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11 :43 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Chris Bartholomew; Billy Gershenson; David Darling; Judy Laskosky
Subject: RE: Merchant Square signage
Good morning,
As per our conversation, I understand that one of the variances we are requesting, is to infringe upon the shown ROW.
We understand that if for any reason the sign must be relocated or removed in the future, it would be our financial
obligation and responsibility.
I appreciate your time and effort in this matter and am happy that we may have now come upon a size and design that
may be acceptable to all parties.
Have a good day.
Ramco-Gershenson
TenantCoordmauon
Randy Tambourine
31500 Northwestern Hwy. Ste. 300
Farmington Hills, MI 48334
248-592-6316
248-592-6317 (fax)
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:06 AM
To: Randy Tambourine; Littlejohn, David W
Cc: Chris Bartholomew; David Darling; Billy Gershenson; Judy Laskosky; Boone, Rachel M.
Subject: RE: Merchant Square signage
Thank you.
FYI - attached is a graphic that shows the proposed 70-ft half right of way for 116th Street at AAA Way. There was some
question about this at the BZA meeting. The lines are not exact, but pretty darn close.
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