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Responses to Comments Provided During th~February 16, 2005 TAC Meeting
for Muell~r Property North Sand and Gravel Operation
1.0 City of Carmel Department of Enaineerina
1. The Department requests that the Thoroughfare Plan right-of-way be dedicated for 106th
Street and Hazel Dell Parkway.
Drafts of the Deed of Dedication and Acceptance of right-of-way for 106th Street are
attached.
2. The Department requests the construction of multi-use paths in accordance with the City's
Alternative Transportation Plan on the north side of 106th Street across the property
frontage.
The path, as shown on the plans, can be contained within the 45-foot riflht-of-way and
is subject to the reservation that Martin Marietta does not waive any right to insist on
compensation for the taking or dedication of this property.
3. The Department requests that the property be improved such that there are no direct
stormwater runoff/discharge areas to the City right-of-way or adjacent properties. This
would entail constructing swales to intercept existing low areas such that they drain back to
the pond.
The previously provided Mueller Property North Sand and Gravel Operation Erosion
and Sediment Control Report calls for the construction of a drainage swale along the
southern/southeastern perimeter to intercept water and drain it back to the lake.
Should actual field conditions dictate the extension of this swale or construction of
additional swales, this will be completed.
4. Are any access points planned into the property or will all access be from the existing
operation to the north? The location of any proposed entrances/access points would be
subject to review and approval by this Department. Any access points shall be constructed
to INDOT standards on Hazel Dell Parkway and to Department standards on 106th Street.
The pavement section for any new pavement to be installed within the City right-of-way will
be in accordance with the section provided by this Department.
No access points are currently planned into the Mueller Property North. However,
Martin Marietta reserves the right for a driveway access across the right-of-way on
106thStreet (that is otherwise being dedicated to the City) for accessing the Mueller
Property North.
5. Any improvements within the existing and proposed City right-of-way shall conform to the
requirements and standards of the Department of Engineering. If any work is to be
performed in the existing or proposed right-of-way, please add a note to the drawings that
the Contractor shall contact the Department of Engineering to schedule a pre-constr .
meeting to review the Department's construction requirements, staff no'
requirements, required inspections for certain stages of the work, and to review th
of the Department as it relates to work within the existing and proposed City right
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The requested note has been added to the Mine Plan Map regarding improvements
within the City right-of-way. A revised Mine Plan Map is enclosed.
6. Will this operation increase vehicular traffic on 106th or Hazel Dell? Will the proposed
operation increase the output from the existing plant or will the output remain the same?
The Mueller Property North Sand and Gravel Operation will be substantially similar to
the operation conducted at the Carmel Sand Plant. Vehicular traffic volume on 106th
Street and Hazel Dell will remain essentially the same.
7. It is apparent that the lake will be an expansion of the existing lake to the north. Is the
existing lake influenced by the Base Flood Elevation of White River or Cool Creek? If so,
are these flood elevations contained in the banks of the proposed lake?
No portion of the proposed Mueller Property North is located within the 1 DO-year
floodplain of the White River. The base flood elevations for Cool Creek and the White
River are 743' MSL and 742' MSL, respectively, near the northeastern corner of the
existing Carmel Sand Plant lake (see attached portion of Flood Insurance Rate Map).
However, note that this flood study was completed prior to the construction of the
Hazel Dell Parkway, and may no longer be representative of actual conditions (it is
believed that the 100-year floodplain is now confined to the east side of Hazel Dell).
The existing ground elevations surrounding the northeastern corner of the existing
lake (in the area within the 1 DO-year floodplain, as currently delineated) are higher
than 743' MSL, based on the contours extracted from the Hamilton County website.
Therefore, the lake is not influenced by the base flood elevations of White River or
Cool Creek.
8. It is stated that the proposed lake will act as a retention pond, one with no release
anticipated. The drainage calculations provided are for a 10-year storm, but the 100-year
storm is typically the design storm for consideration of a detention system. Considering the
residual on-site acreage after reclamation is complete and any off-site acreage that drains to
the final pond configuration, including any areas that drain to the existing pond, what impact
does the 100-year storm have on the lake level?
The 1 DO-year storm event will not significantly impact the lake level, even when
considering any off-site acreage that drains to the pond (which is negligible). There
is adequate freeboard between the lake and surrounding areas to prevent the lake
from discharging during the event of a 1 DO-year storm. The estimated storage volume
of the lake between normal pool elevation and potential overflow elevation is 1,295
acre-feet.
9. Where would the final lake configuration overtop in the event that the lake does completely
fill? Is this outlet point stabilized or protected from erosion in the event that the lake did
overtop?
This event is highly unlikely; however, the lowest point surrounding the final lake is
located along the northern edge of the existing Carmel Sand Plant lake. The lake is
not expected to discharge under any storm condition. Therefore, it has not been
equipped with erosion protection beyond vegetative stabilization.
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10. The Department requires that the on-site drainage system accommodate any off-site
drainage areas that drain to or through the property. This would include any areas that may
only drain onto the property after ponding to an elevation that overcomes any intermediate
high points. The Department understands that this area is very flat and that there are no
defined watercourses which drain to the property, but there may be areas that flow onto the
property as a relief point.
The on-site drainage system will accommodate any off-site drainage areas that drain
to or through the property.
11. The Department requests that all responses to these review comments be provided in
writing. Failure to provide written responses may result in delay of the review process.
The responses to the Department's comments have been provided in writing. The
Department will also be made aware of all modifications made to the plans, which will
be provided in writing.
12. It is critical that this Department be made aware of all modification made on the plans being
resubmitted, particularly if any such changes are considered "new" or fall outside of our
previous reviews. Please provide revised plans indicating all revisions. Please notify this
Department of any changes and specifically state any changes, including changes resulting
from Plan Commission, Special Studies, or other committee meetings.
The Department will be made aware of all modifications made to the plans, which will
be provided in writing.
13. All bonds and performance guarantees (if required) must be posted prior to Engineering
Department approval. Also, Board of Public Works and Safety approval and any other
governing agency approvals (if required) must be obtained prior to Engineering Department
approval.
Martin Marietta understands that all bonds and performance guarantees (if required)
must be posted and other agency approvals must be obtained prior to Engineering
Department approval.
14. The plans have been submitted to the City's consultant for drainage review. Comments
from the drainage review will be forwarded to your office when the review is complete.
Martin Marietta understands that comments from the drainage review will be provided
once the review by the City's consultant is complete.
15. The Department of Engineering reserves the right to provide additional comments based on
subsequent reviews.
Martin Marietta understands that the Department of Engineering reserves the right to
provide additional comments based on subsequent reviews.
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2.0 City of Carmel Department of Community Services Urban Forester
1. On the landscape plan, the graphic planting detail must agree with the text description and
show the root crown or root flare being planted level to finish grade, not just the top of the
root ball, if these are balled and burlapped or container grown trees. The balled and
burlapped stock must have the sizing or binding untied, and the top of the rootball
uncovered once installed.
Planting instructions and details have been modified and now match the text
description with respect to plant installation. A revised Landscaping Plan Map is
enclosed.
2. If these trees are all large seedling size (.75-inch caliper and around 5 feet in height), there
is probably no need to stake them unless they suffer from abnormally adverse weather
conditions. The tree roots will regenerate more quickly and they will establish more
desirable trunk taper if left unstaked.
Reference to stakes has been removed from the revised Landscaping Plan Map, see
the map enclosed.
3. Since this is an afforestation/reforestation plan, a two- to three-year maintenance plan must
be included, and a mortality/plant survival level commitment must be included as well. For
example, "If three years after planting, 90% of the seedlings are not in a health condition
and growing well, those that are dead or dying will be replaced with new plantings." The
maintenance plan should include, but not be limited to, irrigation, mulching, weed control,
removal of any stakes, fertilizing, pest and disease control, and removal of any dead, dying,
or diseased plants or rank vegetation.
A maintenance plan and mortality/plant survival commitment has been added to the
revised Landscaping Plan Map, see the map enclosed.
4. General Construction Sequence (Page 1-5): The proposed 25-foot tree planting area along
the north and west perimeters should be installed before the overburden removal is begun.
This could be done as part of Point 2.
The general construction sequence (page 1-5) has been revised to add the installation
of the 25-foot tree planting area as part of Step Number 2.
3.0 SPECTRA ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP. INC.
3.1 Hvdroaeoloaic Issues
. The submitted documents are silent regarding the potential for the proposed action to
influence the City of Carmel water supply wells in the Plant 4 Wellfield. For example, the
proposed action will create a 3D-foot deep lake within 350 feet of the property line of the
Plant 4 Wellfield. Does the proposed lake fall within any portion of the capture area(s) of
any wells in the Plant 4 Wellfield and, if so, what is the travel time of water from the lake to
the wellfield? If the travel time is short, will development of the lake require the City of
Carmel to change their treatment process for water from the Plant 4 Wellfield?
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. The Spill Prevention, Control, and Countermeasure Plan should be expanded to include a
discussion of the Plant 4 Wellfield and should include a section to describe how the Plant 4
Wellfield will be protected from spills in and around the Mueller North property.
. The information presented does not reference the approved Mueller South sand and gravel
operation. Mueller South will be developed as a dry open pit sand and gravel operation with
dry reclamation. What are the implications of a dry open pit sand and gravel operation a few
hundred feet south of the proposed wet sand and gravel operation? Will the presence of
Mueller South reduce lake levels on the Mueller North property during active mining
operations and then during and after reclamation? After reclamation, the lake elevation is
estimated at ~730 feet above mean seal level (amsl). Will the presence of a freely draining
sand and gravel face (Mueller South) located a few hundred feet south of Mueller North
reduce the anticipated reclamation lake levels?
Martin Marietta will continue to cooperate with the City Utilities Department in
understanding the hydrogeologic issues associated with the application, such as
additional meetings and exchange of information.
3.2 Reclamation lake
. The sideslopes of the reclamation lake are graded at a slope of 3: 1. This same grading
extends below the reclamation water line (~730 feet amsl). Martin Marietta should consider
grading the lake shore and shallow water areas around the lake at a grade of 10:1. This
would provide a degree of safety if someone were to walk into the lake and prevent them
from entering deep water in the near-shore environment.
The proposed grading of final reclaimed side slopes meets or exceeds aI/local, state,
and federal requirements. A 3:1 side slope is gentle enough to provide a safe exit
from an impoundment.
. The post-mining cross sections (Sheet 6 of 6) show that the perimeter of the lake will be
excavated to develop a vertical, saturated sand and gravel face 25 feet high at the limit of
excavation. There is no description in the documents how this grading will be attained, and
if it is attained, how it will be maintained. Saturated sand and gravel below the water line will
seek a natural angle of response at the perimeter of the excavation. Failure in this
underwater slope may change the proposed grading of the above water line reclamation
slope as well. The excavation plan should be reconsidered near the limit of excavation and
the cross sections should be redrawn to show a more realistic grading plan around the
perimeter of the excavation area.
The cross sections were intended as a conceptual representation of the maximum
extent of extraction for the suction dredge. The actual submerged portion of highwal/
will not be vertical. This will be achieved by grading the area between the limit of
extraction and limit of reclamation at a 3:1 slope and pushing that material into the
lake.
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3.3 Mine Plan and Noise Study
. The Mine Plan states that "Martin Marietta is seeking approval to conduct a surface sand
and gravel operation on the Mueller Property North utilizing typical earthmoving equipment
(including pans, front-end loaders, etc.) to remove overburden and a floating dredge to
remove sand and gravel." The Noise Study states that "To reach the sand and gravel,
Martin Marietta must remove approximately five feet of topsoil and non-aggregate material
known as "overburden"." Both the Mine Plan and Noise Study state that the floating dredge
will operate at an approximate elevation of .:t.729 feet amsl. Existing grade in the area can
be as high as 750 feet amsl. Subtracting grade elevation of 750 feet from the dredge
operating elevation of .:t.729 means that there could be up to 21 feet of "overburden" or
overburden and sand and gravel that must be removed before the suction dredge can
operate. This apparent inconsistency must be explained in detail. As the information stands
now, it is unclear how material below the "approximately five feet of topsoil and non-
aggregate material" will be mined or removed from the site.
Martin Marietta proposes to use typical earthmoving equipment, such as pans, front-
end loaders, etc. to remove approximately five feet of overburden. All of the
remaining material to be extracted from the site will be removed with the existing
suction dredge. The suction dredge will work from the existing lake at the Carmel
Sand Plant (+/- 729' MSL) and proceed south into the Mueller Property North. Once
the overburden is extracted, the portion of the sand and gravel that lies above the
water elevation (and dredge operating level) will slough down into the existing lake
water (+/- 729'MSL) and will be extracted via the dredge.
. The Noise Study dues not address noise generated by removal of up to 21 feet of
overburden or non-aggregate material above the elevation at which the suction dredge is to
operate. Removal of up to 21 feet of material across a parcel of land approximately 106
acres in area is not an activity that can be considered "temporary construction activity" or
short-term in nature and must be addressed in the Noise Study. The time required to
remove up to 21 feet of overburden across the site must be detailed. Given the proximity of
the Kingswood development, the apparent discrepancy between the stated thickness of
overburden and the operating elevation of the suction dredge must be explained in greater
detail, and the Noise Study should be updated to include an analysis of this activity,
particularly since any earthmoving equipment operating in this area will be working at
elevations above the 729-foot elevation modeled in the Noise Study.
As described previously, all material except the top five feet of overburden, will be
extracted with the dredge, as modeled in the referenced noise study. Also, the
overburden removal activities will be conducted in phases, such that the entire area
will not be disturbed at once.
. Octave band data for the suction dredge are not provided in the Noise Study; therefore, it is
not possible to independently verify the calculations in the submitted Noise Study. These
data should be made available to Spectra so that independent verification of the noise
projections can be calculated.
Octave band data for the suction dredge is attached.
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3.4 Hours of Operation
. The mine plan states that overburden will be removed from the Mueller North property until
8:00 P.M. Given the proximity of the Kingswood residential development, overburden
removal until 8:00 P.M. may be a nuisance. The Mueller North operation should apply the
same hours of operation as those adopted for the Mueller South project.
Martin Marietta agrees to adopt the same hours of operation as Mueller Property
South Sand and Gravel:
Overburden removal shall be completed during the hours of 6:00 A.M. to 8:00 P.M.
between the months of November through March (except as necessary to construct
visual and noise barriers) and only on days other than Saturday, Sunday, or holidays.
Martin Marietta shall conduct all operations, including overburden removal, in a
manner so as to reasonably minimize noise, dust, and light impact on surrounding
properties.
The hours of operation regarding the extraction of sand and gravel will be 7:00 A.M.
to 7:00 P.M., Monday through Friday, and from 8:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M. on Saturdays.
No operations are permitted on Sunday and holidays.
4.0 Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1. The proposed project falls in the corporate limits of the City of Carmel.
Martin Marietta acknowledges that the Mueller Property North falls within the
corporate limits of the City of Carmel.
2. The proposed project does fall in a Carmel Wellhead Protection Zone.
Martin Marietta acknowledges that the Mueller Property North falls in a Carmel
Wellhead Protection Zone.
3. The proposed project falls in the Moffitt & Williamson Regulated Drain Watershed.
Martin Marietta acknowledges that the Mueller Property North falls within the Moffitt &
Williamson Regulated Drain Watershed.
4. Please provide any information that shows where the lake will overflow (in the unlikely event
that it ever does) and at what elevation that would be at. Show what route the overflow will
take on its course to the White River.
Based on an examination of the site topography, it appears that in the unlikely event
that the lake would overflow, it would occur along the northern boundary of the
existing Carmel Sand Plant lake at approximate elevation 740' MSL. The Potential
Overflow Location and Approximate Moffitt & Williamson Drainage Area Map
indicates the expected route the overflow would take on its course to the White River,
see map enclosed.
5. Please provide an estimated storage volume this lake would have before it would overflow
(in acre-feet).
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The estimated storage volume of the lake between normal pool elevation and
potential overflow elevation is 1,295 acre-feet.
6. Please provide a detailed map that shows what water will continue to flow under 106th Street
to the Moffitt & Williamson Drain so the watershed can be adjusted accordingly.
The attached map indicates the drainage area from Mueller Property North that will
continue to flow under 106th Street to the Moffitt & Williamson Drain.
7. No permits will be needed from our office.
Martin Marietta understands that no permits will be needed from the Hamilton County
Surveyor's Office.
8. Please note that further comments may be necessary at a later date.
Martin Marietta will address any further comments, as necessary.
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