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December 13, 2002
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Mr. Michael Mohr, President
CanneVCla.y Township Board of Zoning Appeals
One Civic Square
Cannel, IN 46032
Re: Petition for Certiorari Wed by MarlbJ. Mariett. MAterials, IDe. Agalnst the BZA Regardillg Its
Decision Not to Approve Spedal Use Permits and Variances (VV-23-02; SU-24-02; SU-2S-Gl; V-l6-
02; V-Z7-02)
Dear Mr. Mohr and Other Members of the Board of Zoning Appeals:
I am writing to you as a resident and homeowner of the Kingswood subdi'Vision in Camtel. Information has
come to me that the Board of Zoning Appeals is actively engaged in settlement negotiations with Martin
Marietta and that a settlement of the above-referenced lawsuit might be imminent. If this is accurate, I would
strongly urge you NOT to settle this matter at this time. Instead, my wife, Connie, and I would respectfully ask
the BZA to adamantly support the decision now under challenge by Martin Marietta.
You may not be aware that a motion has been filed by several residents ofKingwood to intervene in the lawsuit
initiated by Martin Marietta's petition for certiorari concerning the BZA decision. This motion is pending a
hearing by the court. Given the pendancy of the efforts oflooa1 residents to intervene in Martin Marietta's
action in an attempt to protect their respective property interests, it would be particularly unfortunate and
inappropriate, we would respectfully suggest, for the BZA to settle the litigation at this time.
The inappropriateness of attempting to settle the litigation at this time would seem to be augmented by our
understanding that the City has allocated fUnds for the BZA to hire independent outside counsel. Given that the
BZA's current counsel of record in the Martin Marietta litigation had advocated the position of the City's
Department of Comm\.Dlity Servioes, which position is in general agreement with Martin Marietta's applications
for special use and variances and contrary to the decision reached by the :all, the retention by the BZA of other
counsel without prior involvement in this matter to represent the BZA in the pending litigation would seem a
prudent step.
Again, I respectfully urge that you stand by the decision made at the May 28, 2002 BZA meeting. We believe
that the Board acted with courage and integrity in reaching that decision. I would appreciate it if you would
read this letter into the record at your December Executive Session meeting of the BZA under the assumption
that the December BZA meeting has been canceled.
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Dear Mr Mohr:
l am a resident of Kings wood and have heard from a reliable source that the BZA is
close to reaching an settlement with Martin Marietta regarding mining on the Mueller
property. 1 hope this is not true. As you are aware from the previous aZA hearings that
79% of the Kingswood residents are against any mining on this property. We feel
previously that the City of Carmel had sold us down the river, but now the Mayor has
publicly come out voicing his opposition to any mining on this property.
The Kingswood residents firmly believe based on surveys etc that if the mining is
approved our property values will deteriorate. Mr. Mohr, when 1 and other residents
'purchased homes in Kingswood we fully expected the fields around Kingswood to be
developed but we never dreamed that some day these fields might be mined. As you are
probably aware the other sub divisions in this area of Carmel are also very much against
the mining of the Mueller property.
Hearing that there are possible backroom deals being made between the City of Carmel
and Marlin Marietta is both distressing and contrary to open government. AgreemenLs
between corporate entities and our city government need to be made in full view of those
most affected. Please don't let us find out that this was not the case.
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Dear Mr. Mohr:
I am writiDi as a Kingswood re$ident and not in "official" capacity. 1 underStand that the BZA and Martin
Mariena are close to reaching a settlement in the lawsuit which MM: filed against the BZA. THIS IS
VERY CONCERNING TO ME AS A REDISENT, VOTER AND TAXPAYER OF C~L. IF
MY CITY GOVERNMENT DOES NOT PROTECT ME, WHO WR.L? I attended the May 2811I BZA
meeting and {ccl the hearing was Cair lUld bolh sides werc eq\1ally rcpresen(ed. I am confused why the
BZA would settle me agreement with MM when the envUo1llIlCut has change drastically since May 28?
I am also coDf\Jsed why Mr. John Molitor is represeQ~ the BZA in the lawsuit? Didn't Mi. Molitor
speak supportiIJg Martin Marietta at the May BZA meeting? Isn't that a conflict?
I AM REQUESTING OR BEGGlNGTBE BZA TO STAND BY TBEIR. MAY 28'111 DECISION. Let
the City Council and Mayor work: together to polish the mining anc1 re..zonin~ classification ordinances,
which should put this conflict to bed.
ThaDlc you Cor yoW'time, service to the city and for protecting and preserving the great repetition of
Carmel, Indiana.
Rcspci:tfu1ly Yours,
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Susan Becker
Kingswood HomeoWDer
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Carmel, IN 46033
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Mr. Michael Mohr
Prcllident, Carlllel Board of Zoning Appeals
One Civic Square
Cannel, IN 46032
Re: Martin Marietta Materials, Ine. Lawsuit Filed Against the Carmel BZA Regardiog the
May 28, 1002 DeCli~ion Not to Approve Special Use Per...its (UV-23-02; SU-24-02; SU-25-
02; V-Z6-02; V-27-02)
Dear Mr. Mohr and Board of Zon iog Appeals Members:
I am writing to you as an individual resident of the Kingswood subdivision in carmel and I have received
information from a credible source that the Board of Zoning Appeals is actively engaged in settlement
negotiations with Martin Marietta in the lawsuit referenced above and that a settlement of this lawsuit might be
imminent. I would strongly urge you not to settle this matter until the Court has ruled 011 a pending
motion to intervene (see third paragraph below) or, if legally possible, let stand the decision you rea~hed
at the May ZS, 2002 BZA meeting.
If you recall, Martin Marietta was afforded a fair and complete (five hour) hearing on their petitions at the May
BZA meetini and was gjven wide latitude in their presentation to the BlA, even after their formal remarks were
concluded. Residents of Kings wood who remonstrated against the petition spent a considerable amount of time,
effort, and money (approximately $2,500) to hiro ex.perts and prepare a presentation to the BZA. 1 think it
would be a mistake to have a privately negotiated settlement overturn the very legitimacy of the BZA'g public
pn.'cess.
I would also inform you that a motion has been flied by "aggravated parties" (of which I am one) named in
Martin Marietta's law!luit to join the lawsuit to ensure the property rights of homeowners in Kingswood be
adequately considered and represented. The motion is still pending and MM intends to oppOSe it.
Further, J am extremely ooncerned that the BZA is still represented by John Molitor who supported Martin
Mal'ietta's petition to the .BZA and who has an obvious conflict of interest in this suit. It is my understanding
that Mr. Molitor, as the BZA's attorney, still has not filed Findings ofFaot from the May BZA meeting, a point
of fact that MM raises in their lawsuit against the BZA. It is also my understanding that the City has now
allocated funds for the aZA to hire independent outside counsel and I would strongly encourage you to do so.
Again, I respectfully request that you delay settling this law suit until the Court has ruled on the pending
modon to intervene or, if legally possible, let stand the decision you reached at the May 28, 2002 BZA
meeting. To do otherwise would erode the confidence in our City government's procedural fajrness and its
ability to protect Carmel residents and their property values. Further. 1 would also encourage you to hire outsidt:
counsel who has not previously supported Martin Marietta's Special Use petitions. I would also appreciate it if
you would read this letter into the record at your December Executive Session meeting of the BZA since it is my
understanding that the December BZA meeting has been canceled.
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May 28, 2002 Decision Not to Approve Special Use Permits (UV -23-02; SU-24-02; SU-
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Dear Members of the BZA:
As a resident of the Kingswood subdivision who remonstrated against Martin Marietta's petition
at the May, 2002 BU hearing, I am extremely disturbed to hear that the BZA is now considering
a settlement with Martin Marietta. As a citizen of Cannel, I count on the city's officials and
representatives to protect my interests. However, at this moment, I am wondering how my
intet'Csts can be protected if the city's attorney, who has stated that he is in favor of the Mantn
Marietta petition, can represent the BZA (and by proxy, the interests of the people of Cannel).
This would appear to be a blatant confUct of intereSL I am also disturbed that an industrial
interest group could successfully circumvent the zoning laws by going to the courts. It Seems to
me that the hearing that they received in May was already slanted in their favor. given the amount
of time that they were given to respond to the remonstrances and to your questions and concerns
and given the city resources which amassed behind their efforts.
Because of the inherent conflicts of interest created by the collusion between Martin Marietta and
the City of Carmel, a number of the remonstraters from the May hearing have jointly filed a
motion to intervene in the lawsuit between Manin Marietta and the BZA. This motion is set to be
heard in January. Our hope was that this motion would bring some balance and fairness to the
proceedingo. I beseech you to please hold off any settlement of the lawsuit until this motion can
be heard. You are our only protection right now, and we pray that you will not let us down.
Sincerely.
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Res Martin Marietta Materia)s, Inc. LaWRJit Filed AJ8iDSl the C8I'DlCl BZA llegaJ-ding the May 28, 2002
Declsion Not to A.pprove Special Use Permits (UV-2:W2; 80-24-02; SU-2S..02; V-26.02; V-27-ol)
Dear Mr. Mohr and Buard of Zoning Appeals Members:
I am writing to you as an individual resident oftbe: Kingswood subdivision in Carmel and not i11 any "official"
capacity. I have received information from a cIedible source that the Board of Zoning Appeals is actively
engaged in settlement negotiatiOrts with Martin Mariena in the lawsuit referenced abOve and that a settleD'lEml of
this lawsuit might be imminent. I would strongly urge )'ou not to settle this matter and lct stand the decIsion you
reached at the May 28, 2002 BZA meeting.
If you recall, Martin Marietta was afforded a fair and complete (five hour) hearing on their petitions at the May
BZA ~ting and was given wide latitude in their presentation [0 the BZA, even after their fonnal remarks were
cotICluded. Residents of Kingswooo who remonstrated against the petition spent a considerable amount of time.
effort, and mone)' (approximately $20500) to hire experts and prepare a presentation [0 the BZA.. I think it
would be a mistake to have Ii privately negotiated. settlement overturn the very legitimacy of the BZA's process.
I would also Inform you that a motioD has been filed by "aggravated parries" named in Martin Marletta's lawsult
to join the lawsuit to ensure the property rights of homeowners in Klngswood be adequately considered and
repmented. The motion is still pending.
Further, 1 am eXtremely concerned that the BZA is still represented by J'01111 Molitor who supported MartIn
Marietm's petition [0 the BZA and has an obvIous conflict of interest. It is: my undexstanding that Mr, MolitOr,
as the BZA's attOl'Dey, stilt has not filed Fmdinp of Fact from the May BZA meeUng, a point of fact that MM
raises in meir lawsuit a&aim.t the BZA. 1t is also my undemanding that the Oty bas noW allocared funds foT the
BZA to hire independent outside counsel and I would mongly encourage you to do sO.
Again, I respeclfully request that you stand by the decision you reached at d1e May 28, 2002 BZA meeting. To
do othe:rwise would erode the confidence in our City governmenfs procedural fairness and its ability to protect
Carmel residents and their property valUeli. Further. 1 would also encourage you [0 hire OutSide counsel who has
not previously supponed Martin Mllrietta' s Special Use petitions. .1 would also appreciate it j f you would read
this letter into the record at your December Executive Session meeting of the BU since it is my 11J1derstanding
tbal dt.c December BZA meeting bas been canceled.
Respectfully,
Jeffrey D.loJiet
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Mr. Michael Mohr
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Carmel, IN 46032
He: Marti... Marietta MatetiU, lac. Lawsalt Ji'Uecl ApJ...t tile c....e1 BZA RepnIIDg tile May 18, 1002
DedsIoa Not to A,p.-ove Special Use Pe.....,.. (VV-23-0Z; SU-24-02; SU-25-01; V-26-02; V-%1-02)
Dear Mr. Mohr and Board of Zonms Appeals MeIJlbers:
My husband and I are writing to you because we have ceceived infonnation that the Board of Zoning Appeals is
actively enppd in settlement negotiations with Martin Marietta in the lawsuit referenced above and that a
sett1emeDt of this ~ might be imminent. We urge you not to settle this m8tk:r _d let stand the deoision
you reached at the May 28, 2002 BZA meeting.
If you ~l, Martin Marietta was afforded a fait end complete (fiw hour) hearing on their petitions.t the May
BZA meeting and was given wide latitude in their presentation to the BZA, even after their formal remarks were
concluded. Residents of Kinpwood who nmoUlllb~ against the petition spent. considerable amount oftUhe,
effort. and money (approxinJately 12,500) to hh'v experts and prepare a presentation to 1he BZA. We think it
would be a m{$f.ake to have a privately negotiated settlement overturn the very 1egitinJ.Bq' of the BZA's process.
We would also inform you that a motion has been rued by nagravatecl parties" named in Martin Marietta's
lawsuit to join the lawsuit to ensure the property rights ofhomeownef5 in Kingswood be adequately considered
and represented. The motion is stin pending.
Further, we are extnmlely concerned that the BZA is stin repJeSeIlted by John Molitor who supported Martin
Marietta.S petition to the BU 8Ud has an obvious ~nfJ.ict of inwrest. It Is our undentanding that Mr. Molitor,
as the BZA'$ attorney. still has not filed Findin&s of Fact &om the May BZA meeting. a point of fact that MM
raises in their lawsuit against theBZA. It is also our understanding that the City bas now allocated funds for the
BZA to hire indepe.odeat outside couasel and we would strongly CIlCOUI'II8" you to do so.
Please stand by the decision you reached at the May 28, 2002 BZA meeting. To do otherwise would erode the
confidence in our City goverriment's procedural fairness and its ability to protect Carmel residents and their
property valuoa. Further, we would also eDCOUI'88O you to hire outside coUDSeI who bas not previously .
supported Maatin Marietta'a Special Use pcUtMIs. We are coooemed that you are not repre~tiDa the Wished
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Re: Martin Marietta Materials, Inc:. Lawsuit Filed Against the Carmel 8ZA Regarding the May 28, 2002
Decision Not to Approve Special Use Pennits (UV-2J-02; SU-24-02; SU-25-02; V-26-02; V-27-02)
Dear Mr. Mohr and Board of Zoning Appeals Members:
As a Kingwood Homeowner I am asking the BZA not to settle the lawsuit with Martin Marietta. As far as
Kingswood is concerned there is no common ground on which to settle. This land is not zoned for mining and we
do not want mining for several reasons:
1) It will erode our property values. Martin Marietta has never done a study to show that it will not decrease
property values. They told the BZA that lake front property increases property values. Never mind the 14
years plus of mining we ,,'.'ill have to endure to even get to the ugly ponds we view all through their old
operations.
2) Martin Marietta has told us that it is their intent to try and blast underneath the Mueller property after
dredging it. So telling Kingswood they will have lake front property would be a half-truth at best (and
don't think for a minute that in having the land in their possession for 14 years that they won't be able to
negotiate with the city to blast underneath).
3) More importantly the land south of I06th, which is still Mueller property, and zoned 81, will become only
suitable for mining (since it will be sandwiched between two mining operations). I believe this will put the
city in a comer if Mueller North of 106th street is mined, and the City does not allow Martin Marietta to
mine south of I06th. We know if the Mueller Property South of I06th is mined, it will be open pit blasting
since it is adjacent to the current pit. This will then move the blasting north, which is something all
surrounding subdivisions have remonstrated against since the blasting is so invasive already.
We believe it w-as a sound decision not to allow MM the special use permit. They were afforded every
opportunity to reply to every concern we had while having the City Attorney, as well as the City Utilities
remonstrate on their behalf They still couldn't receive BZA approval!
The overwhelming majority of Kingswood has never wavered from their stance that we bought property
adjacent to farmland zoned for residential use, and we should expect to see it developed that way. We have
met with two separate developers who have approached the Mueller Conservancy about building, "Kingswood
style" residential housing on the North Mueller property. Why wouldn't this be the reasonable solution?
We appreciate the BZA's perseverance in fighting the fight for all Cannel Residents, and urge you to keep up the
fight!
Thank you,
Kelly J. Nocco
Kingswood Homeowner
4990 Kingswood Drive, Cannel IN 46033
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that. . C el City Attorney, Mr. Haney, will represent the Board of Zo~ A1'PCJ18 in .
thela. !.' filed ill Hamilton County Superior Court by Martin Marietta. 1 belieVe that .
=CI 1y a coatlict in that representation as Mr. Haney has gone on record in
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,ofN . Resources. ,Federa1law, the Safe Watm Drinking Act, mandates that such
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np~ .t 'f in~stI in the upcoming suit. While I am lure that Mr. Haney is a fine .
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:35 PM
To: rhancock@cLcarmel.in.us
Subject: BZA Hearing of May 28, 2002
May 29, 2002
Mr. Charles Weinkauf
Ms. Earlene Plavchak
Mr. Leo Dierckman
Mr. Michael A Mohr
Ms. Pat Rice
Dear Members of the Carmel Clay Board of Zoning Appeals:
My name is Janet Thyen and I reside at 5083 St Charles PI.
I feel I must put into writing my feelings on the BZA meeting last night. This is not "sour grapes" as one of my fellow
homeowners commented last night. I truly feel that members of the BZA did not do their job last night.
Mrs. Rice, it is all well and good for you to sit up there and throw out your comments on your feeling of public access to the
land surrounding the Mueller property, but you don't know the facts. Since the public is not allowed to speak, we could not
even "defend" your comments. When all this started three years ago there was a public walking path in the plan. This was
presented to the adjacent property owners (APOs). The majority of the APOs were not in favor of this for several reasons.
Personally I was concerned with both my children's and my home safety. I know that you were shown the land in question
and was told you were brought to the Westchester stub street. It is very isolated behind our homes. Anyone could park on
106th Street or Hazeldell Parkway and have easy access and escape from the backyards of our homes. We have friends
who have the Monon Trail running through their backyard. They hate it. If they could, they would move.
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But, this was a Kingswood issue not just an APO issue. A meeting was held for all Kingswood residents to discuss this
issue. It was actually one of our most attended meetings. I think there was about forty or fifty people there. I spoke on the
activities of the stub street. I pick up beer cans and liquor bottles on a regular basis from the end of the street. We
regularly interrupt parkers. My children found several canisters of C02. We don't know if these were for drug use or
paintball guns. One morning my then four year old son came to the bus stop with a pair of pink girls bikini underwear stuck
on a stick like a flag. He had found them at the end of the street. There was discussion of the liability issue to Kingswood.
It was brought up that the City of Carmel locks their parks at night yet Kingswood would have no way of doing that. It was
brought up about all the problems the residents of Windpoint were having with unapproved use of their pathway. All these
issues were discussed and a vote was requested to see where all the residents of Kingswood stood on this issue. Several
of the people on both sides of the Mueller issue were there. Including several of the cheering crowd last night (how soon
they forget). The vote was overwhelming against opening this to the Kingswood homeowners.
In regard to the access to the lake, it should not be through any residential development. It should be from public access
off of a public road. Access would be available from Hazel Dell or 106th Street or even through Carmelot. Why would you
- even suggest sending extra traffic through a neighborhood?
Several times it came up that the decision should be the best for all of Kingswood. Yet the one thing that both sides
wanted...the moving of the processing plant. You voted against. Did you understand what you were doing to Kingswood
with that vote? Now we are stuck with the plant that we have worked for three years to get moved! You also managed to
not allow the berm along 106th Street which would have reduced the impact on all of Kingswood of the blasting from the
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My understanding of the BZAs job is to look at the facts presented to you and base your discussions on those facts. I do
not believe it is the BZAs job to negotiate for the Kingswood homeowners. We have an elected board to do that for us. All
the issues that had come up, including the new water issue, were answered last night. Those were facts not emotion.
Unfortunately, some homeowners are driven by greed and maybe jealousy. It's a kindergarten playground mentality, if I
can't play with the ball then nobody can.
If there had been any threat to the neighborhood that could have been proven, my husband and I would have not been in
support of this. My husband and I truly believed that the best use of the Mueller property was the sand and gravel
dredging. The best for all of Carmel by having more open space and less strain on an area already overburdened. We
would have gained nothing but a small amount of unusable land, several years of disruption while it was being mined and
an increase in our property tax. I feel the three members of the BZA who voted against this issue did not follow the
guidelines last night. I feel that your vote was not based on the factual issues but on personal and emotional ones. This is
not because as an APO we "lost" It's as a Carmel resident who witnessed the system fail.
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Cannel, IN 46033
May 28, 2002
Dear Board Members:
I am writing to you in regards to Martin Marietta's petition to mine the Mueller property.
As a mother of small children and as a citizen of Carmel, I am horrified and outraged that
the city of Cannel is in support of the petition. Children at Carmelot Park will be playing
next to an active mine! How is this a good idea? I also understand that the mining will
take place within the aquifer which provides the city's drinking water and that there is a
risk not only of contaminating our water source but also of damaging or depleting it
Why is the city playing fast and loose with our natural resources? Why is Martin
Marietta's profit margin more important than our children's health and safety?
On a more personal level, I did not choose to buy a house near a lake, a retention pond, or
any other such body of water. With two small, active and curious boys, one of whom has
some mental disabilities (Autistic Spectrum Disorder), I thought that I had chosen a very
safe environment for them. To find out that I may SOon be living next to a mining
operation and an unsafe "lake" is extremely distressing.
There are certainly other reasons why this mining should not be anowed to take place.
For instance, diminishment of OUT property values, loss of our investment in a home that
was supposed to be next to a residentially zoned space but which will become an
industrial area. and certainly diminishment of our quality of life. Already, I have had to
spend too much time and energy on this issue, which should have been a no-brainer for
the city years ago.
Unfortunately, the Kingswood Homeowner's Association Board has sold us out, as has
Mayor Brainard. Who will protect our community? Who will protect our water? Who
will protect our children? Please help us.
Sincerely,
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Holland Detke
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To: Michael Mohr, President, Board of Zoning Appeals
Re: May 28, 2002, BZA Meeting, Martin Marietta Mining Special Use Permit
Request to Re-Open Meeting for Additional Publi~~ Comment
May 28, 2002
Mr. Mohr:
Along with several of my neighbors, I spoke against J1v[artin Marietta's Special Use
Permit to mine the Mueller property south ofKingswoDd at the April 22, 2002, BZA
meeting. Since April 22, we have gathered additional. factual data that supports our
position. We feel the most important factors are as fCI Hows:
1. Risk to Carmel drinking wells located at Carmelot Park and
damage to the aquifer.
2. Negative impact on property values.
3. Safety risk.
We would like to present our findings at the May 28, 2002 BZA meeting. We request the
BZA to re-open the meeting for additional public cOl1l1ment. We have prepared an
organized presentation to minimize duplication of OOluments and we will have experts
avai1;d>le to address the groundwater and property value issues. Several Kingswood
residents would make the presentation. I believe oth.;:)~ neighbors will also want to speak.
We feel this'information is significant and warrants 8.d.ditional public comment. I
appreciate your consideration of my request.
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I am writing in regard to the special use permit that Martin
Marietta has requested. I am hoping for a chance to speak at the
meeting tonight.
Martin Marietta has combined a really good idea- the moving
of the processing plant with a really bad idea- mining adjacent to
city wells, our homes and a city park. They want to rush us into a
decision so that these issues will not be fully addressed. It is
nothing short of blackmail that MM has put the unreasonable
time factors into the moving of this processing plant. They
themselves are quite comfortable changing the dates for their
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convenIence.
Since the last B.Z.A. meeting, we have looked into the drinking
water issue. We have geologists in our NOuP that are prepared to
explain how mining by our wells is a really bad idea. We also
have an outside expert to present and answer questions. Mining
anywhere near the city wells is not a good idea. I feel there are
many unseen costs for the city involved.
The safety factor of this is not one to be taken lightly.
Dredging an area so close to homes and a park is at best an
attractive nuisance and at worst a death trap. I cannot see how
this can possibly be made safe.
The group that did research into the value of our homes also
feels that mining this area is not acceptable. The number that
seems to be flashed around is a 10% devaluation but what if it is
more? How much is acceptable for me to lose for MM to make
money?
Please let it be known that I do not support the granting of this
special use permit.
May 28th, 2002
Board of Zoning Appeals
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Dorothy H. Curry
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Sent: Sunday, May 26,20027:10 PM
To: rhancock@cLcarmel.in.us
Subject: Hearing Martin Marietta Zoning Request - May 28
Dear Commissioners:
As a resident of the Kingswood Subdivision which abuts the property MM wishes to dredge, I am writing to protest the
proposal. Kingswood is an area populated by families with many small children. The noise, pollution, and dangers
associated with this proposal are inappropriate next to a neighborhood.
When we purchased our home, we were aware of the empty field, now known as the Mueller property. Seeing the
beginnings of a road leading onto the property, we assumed that some day more residences would be constructed there.
We don't mind living near other people, but allowing an industrial operation to locate there at this time would be unfair.
Let's not change the rules in midstream. Citizens rely on city government to protect their interests. We don't need an
increase in truck traffic; we don't want to keep our windows closed because MM is removing overburden and creating dust
and noise (that's not acceptable, even in the winter); and who hasn't worried about an overly curious child going
somewhere forbidden?
Keeping all this in mind, I hope the Carmel Clay BZA will reject Martin Marietta's "Special Use Approval Request". Thank
you in advance for protecting the interests of concerned homeowners.
Sincerely,
Edelgard and Phil Kincaid
5000 Huntington Dr.
Carmel, IN 46033
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guaranteed, suits have been settled at the last minute giving up some homeowners rightsLt~\~
and e-mails that have been sent requesting officials ~~!.!Q raise pertinent hydrolleol~e .
issues. Misinformation, no information, having to dig up information and lies have
Occurred in this democratic process relating to the Mueller Property. All this should raise
huge red flags for those opposed and those in favor of mining. Would not having an
ordinance in place resolve many questions and concerns? .
WOODEN & MCLAUGHLIN
05/28/02 TUE 09:45 FAX 317 639 6444
May 25) 2002
Several Points to ponder follow:
· Moving the processing plant is supposedly the time dependent issue. There has
been much "negotiation". Couldn't something else be worked out? Move the
dredge back to the legal nonconfonning lake and dredge back an allotted amount
of feet while an ordinance is constructed. .
· Overburden removal 5 months per year for fourteen or more years = 70 months or
more of noise.
· Our children will be away at college before they would "benefit" from any lake.
· The 'no blasting at this time' or 'this has nothing to do with blasting' comments
in letters and conversation we have received or heard are offensive. Do they think
we are stupid? (Or perhaps they know we are because of all the deals they have
worked out with "us"). Of course it has to do with underground mining! That is
their intent! They place this in the letters trying to entice us into believing it won't
happen. It wilt happen!
· Safety is a concern regarding the creation of a lake and moving the processing
plant to an unfenced area.
· What about property values? The city and board say property values will go up
with an adjacent lake. Can you wait 14 years for the formation of a lake? What
will happen if you need to sell before then?
· The wheel is in the process of being reinvented. It has been up to the
neighborhood to find out how to protect ourselves, to gamer jnfonnation on what
should be in place and to figure out other reclamation issues. Many hours by
many people. Have we figured it all out? Have we thought of everything? Do we
believe it has aU been covered and investigated- No, it bas not. What about the
city's well water?
· This is big business coming in and trying to get by under the law with the least
amount of payout as possible. They only offer to cover or include those items
brousht forth by others. They have not been forthright and honest
Thank you for your time in reading this.
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We are your neighbors who conducted the Kingswood Neighborhood Survey<>tf-Maiiin
Marietta's mining proposal. To date, we have not been convinced there is sufficient
justification for the Kingswood neighborhood to support Martin Marietta's Special Use
Permits to IIline the Mueller property. Martin Marietta's ('~MM") proposed Special Use
Pennits will have an immediate and negative impact on property values, are a risk to public
safety, pose significant environmental risks, and are contrary to the family friendly
environment the City of Cannel is attempting to develop and maintain.
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We are all aware of the fact that the Mueller property will not remain in its current status.
The question is whether Ml\1' s proposal to mine the Mueller property is the best choice for
Kingswood. We feel it is not. Consider the following points:
1. Impact on PropertY values. Across the country, people move approximately every 7
years. Past experience in Kingswood, indicates about 10% move per year. It will be
very difficult to sell our homes on a reasonable timetable, and at a reasonable price
when prospective purchasers are aware of the fact that mining will occur at least until
2016. The property values of adjoining property owners may increase upon
completion of the mine, but this will not benefit the majority ofKingswood
homeowners.
2. Impact on local roads. MM projects that they will mine approximately 500,000 tons
of sand and gravel per year. This sand and gravel will be transported by truck from
the proposed processing plant on the east side of Hazel Dell Parkway. A dump tnlck
can hold approximately 30,000 lbs of sand and gravel. This is equivalent to
approximately 110 round trip trucks per day (or entering and leaving the site 220 per
day.) This is an excessive hazard on already crowded roads.
3. Basis for City of Cannel Support. The City of Cannel has yet to provide convincing
reasons for their support ofMM's Special Use Permit. To date, the City of Cannel's
has provided two reasons to support MM's petition:
a. That the Mueller property is un-developable since it is within the lOO-year
flood plain. This is false. A small portion of the property is within the SOO-year
flood plain, but it may be possible to sufficiently reclaim the property to permit
building.
b. That all of the sumnmding property is either currently in mining operation.
slated for mining operation or owned by the City of Cannel. This conveniently
ignores the presence of Kingswood!
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the 1997 conttact entered into between the. City of Carmel ~ MM for th~...11ij. 'e~fll!J \;~.~,
of Hazel. Dell Parkway to 96tb. street. In this co~ct, the CIty guaranteed{-MM.__., NA.V~ ID [.'-::__1\
host of nghts and freedoms WIth respect to land m Carmel. (,"1. DOCS '002 l;
4. Impact on Water ~uality. By its own ad~ssion, MM intends to mine the);(~if~! \</&/
from which Carmel gets some of its drinkmg water. The city has been informed(~TT~
there is a risk of not only damaging the aquifer but also a likelihood of polluting our
drinking water due to diesel oil spills and other contaminants entering the
aquifer.
MM: also intends to mine within an unsafe distanf:e of the city's wells,
which pump our drinking water from the aquifer. Again, there is a high risk that
mining in such close proximity will affect the wells.
Finally, with regard to the Kingswood Homeowners Board:
Did you know that the Kingswood Homeowners Association Board signed a settlement with
the city and MM on Friday, May 17th agreeing to allow the mining to take place? This was
prior to the "informational meetings" on May 19th and 20th at which the Board told us that
they had not yet reached a decision on the issue because they wanted to gather information at
these meetings. These meetings were a complete waste of time for all involved since the
Kingswood Board had already made up its mind. Prior to making this decision, the
Kingswood Board had not made any attempts to gauge the collective opinion of the
Kingswood residents, in spite having received a copy of the survey results showing
overwhelming opposition to MM's mining proposal and a challenge by the BZA to do so at
the April22nd BZA meeting.
We feel that there are e:ltremely serious issues at stake here and that it behooves all ofus to
find out mote.
Please attend the BZA hearing on Tuesday., May 28 at 7:00 pm at City Hall
It may be youtlast ehanee to be heard on this issue. If we make our
~ conce s heard, someone will have to listen.
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Re: Martin Marietta Materials, Inc. Mining Special Use Permit
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May 23,2002
To: Mr. Michael Mohr, President, Board of Zoning Appeals
Mr. Mohr:
On May 28, 2002, the Board of Zoning Appeals ("BZA") will hold a meeting regarding the
above-mentioned Special Use Permits for Martin Marietta ("MM"). We respectfully
request the BZA to re-open the meeting for public comment regarding these permits.
We are a group of Kingswood homeowners opposed to the proposed Special Use
Permits requested by MM to conduct sand and gravel mining on the land south of the
Kingswood development to 10Sth street, and from Carmelot Park east to Hazel Dell
Parkway. We believe that sand and gravel mining adjacent to Kingswood will have an
immediate and negative impact on property values, is a risk to public safety, poses
significant environmental risk and is inconsistent with the image the City of Carmel is
attempting to develop and maintain.
Several of our members spoke against the MM petition at the April 22, 2002, BZA
meeting. In support of our original remonstrance, we submitted to the BZA Office brief
additional comments on May 17, 2002, that were distributed to all BZA members.
In furtherance of the remonstrance indicated above, we request permission to provide
additional input during the public hearing'phase of the BZA meeting on May 28, 2002. In
order to minimize duplication of comments, we have prepared an organized
presentation, with several speakers briefly presenting different topics. Where
appropriate, we will have experts in different fields to support the remonstrance. Topics
we intend to address include the following:
1. Results of the Kingswood Neighborhood Opinion Survey;
2. Safety/Community Image issues;
3. Impact on Property values;
4. Rebuttal of the City of Carmel's recommendation to support MM's Special
Use Permit;
5. Input regarding environmental issues raised by MM's Special Use Permits.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Request for Re-Opening of Public Forum at May 28, 2002 BZA Meeting
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BRUCE E. SMITH*
.JOHN W. VAN BUSKIRK*
RICHARD W. DYAR
PATRICIA SEASOR BAILEY
BRIAN .J. TUOHY
MARK A. BAILEY
LEWIS E. WILLIS, .JR.
THOMAS A. BRODNIK
RICHARD B. KAUFMAN
DENNIS R. TYLER
MAR.JORIE A. MILLMAN
CLAY M. PATTON
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May 22, 2002
David Warshauer
BARNES & THORNBURG
11 South Meridian Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
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RE: Martin Marietta's Petition to Extend Mining Activity Into the Mueller Property
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Dear David:
As I stated the other night, I representNorthhaven; LLC and certain other property r
owners involved in the development of the residential and commercial office development
known as Northhaven on the west side of Gray Road, north of 96th Street. I appreciated the
opportunity to listen to Martin Marietta's explanation of its proposed mining activity on the
Mueller property. After consulting with my clients, they are most concerned that Martin y
Marietta will not commit to prohibit quarry mining or prohibit mining using explosives as part of .
it's petition before the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals ("BZA"). In fact, at our meeting, a
representative from Martin Marietta Corp. specifically stated that "we would not rule out quarry
operations" which may include blasting with explosives.
Becausethe Northhaven development has an investment of Twenty-three Million Dollars
($23,000,000) in office development and 266 luxury apartments, the owners are very concerned
about the impact that expanding or increasing the amount of blasting along the Gray Road
corridor will have on this substantial investment. My clients do not understand why Martin
Marietta refuses to enter into a written commitment to prohibit blasting at the Mueller property.
Given the recent significant change in surrounding property uses, i.e. high-end single
family housing, Class A offices and luxury apartments, it seems very reasonable that Martin
Marietta would commit in writing to the prohibition of all blasting on the Mueller property.
Furthermore, such commitment should provide that if Martin Marietta ever desires to commence
blasting on such site, they will petition the BZA for a Special Exception (or other appropriate
approval) to permit the use of explosives and notify surrounding property owners outside the
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STARK DONINGER & SMITH
David Warshauer
May 22, 2002
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legal notice area including Owners' Associations at Williamson Run, Northhaven, and Carolina
Commons.
In the event your clients agree to such written commitment as part of its BZA Petition,
my clients will not remonstrate at the BZA hearing set for May 28, 2002. If! don't hear from
you by Friday, May 24, 2002, I will advise my clients that Martin Marietta refuses to committo
no blasting while mining at the Mueller property, and we will actively oppose approval of your
current request of the BZA.
STARK, DONINGER & SMITH
Brian J. Tuohy
BJT/kr
cc: Honorable James Brainard, Mayor of Carmel
John Molitor, Attorney
Lindell Traggar
Thomas C. Hays, Esquire
Williamson Run HOA
Carolina Commons HOA
City of Carmel BZA Members