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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
June 19, 2007
Minutes
The regularly scheduled meeting ofthe Cannel Plan Commission met at 6:00 PM in the Council
Chambers of City Hall, Carmel, Indiana. The meeting opened with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Members present: Leo Dierckman, Jay Dorman, Wayne Haney, Kevin Heber, Rick Ripma, Carol
Schleif, Sally Shapiro, thereby constituting a quorum.
DOCS Staff in attendance: Angelina Conn, Adrienne Keeling. John Molitor, legal counsel was
also present.
The minutes of the May 15, 2007 meeting were approved as submitted.
.Legal Report, John Molitor. There is a gray area with sharing emails with more than 3
Commission members. The Open Door Law will probably be amended and that will mean a change
to the Rules of Procedure as well. At this time, it is recommended that no one Plan Commission
member send an email to more than one person at a time until changes are made regarding rights
and responsibilities. If there is an urgent situation, it would be addressed by the President prior to
the next meeting.
Department Report, Angie Conn: Regarding Item 2H, Pro-Med Lane Holiday Inn has had
no new submissions, nothing new to report, and the Department is recommending this item be
tabled to the next meeting, July 17, 2007.
Rick Ripma made fonnal motion to TABLE Docket No. 07030035DP, Pro-Med Lane Holiday
Inn to the July 17th meeting, seconded by Carol Scbleif, Approved 7-0.
H. Public Hearings
1H. TABLED to JULY 17 Meeting:
Docket No. 07030037 DP/ADLS: Midland Atlantic-Market Place at West
Carmel
The applicant sCloko site plan and design approval for a proposed one story, 21,600
squfrfe foot retail building on 2.73 acres.
Tho site is Located at the northeast comer of98* Stroot and Michigan Road, and is
zonedB3/Busincso, and is \vithin the US 121 Overlay.
filed by Paul Reis ofBosoMcKinncy & Evans, LLP for Midland Atlantic Properties
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Commission Comments:
Wayne Haney felt that the parking lot layout and the line-up for the drive thm window need to be re-
studied. There are only 10 autos that can be lined up and upon entering the site, traffic must cross
traffic and turn immediately to the left to get into line. Ifthere are more than 10 cars, there will be a
blockage. The site could be laid out much better and have a much longer area for stacking cars.
Also, combining it with the neighbor, there will be two-way traffic in each one of these with cross-
traffic. It might be too complex. Wayne urged the petitioner to lay-out a site that would improve
stacking ability and to eliminate the cross traffic',
Jay Dorman said he did not like the site plan at all-it is dangerous-there are different ways to lay
it out.
Leo Dierckman commented that the blue canopies and the orange doors do not work for him and the
Committee should re-study this.
Rick Ripma asked about the trash dumpster. In Castleton, the actual unit that goes inside the
dumpster to hide is taller than the brick. So, yOt!- see this ugly thing sticking up-how tall is the
brick on the trash receptacle?
Mike Dauss responded that the elevations proposed are above the normal six cubic-yard trash
container and that is what is being proposed.
Rick Ripma wanted to make certain that the petitioner is not allowed to install a trash receptacle that" .
is taller than the enclosure.
Angie Com1 commented that if need be, the dumpster height and trash receptacle could be a
condition of the approval.
Sally Shapiro: Requested the inclusion of green parking spaces in the parking area. Also, is the
brick real or a veneer?
Mike Dauss responded that the brick is real, and a standard, modular unit brick. Home Depot has a
Norman brick which is 16 long by 4 high-a bigger unit-and on a building this size,
proportionately, it just would not work.
Docket No. 07030037 DP/ADLS, 'Vest Carmel Marketplace Burger King was forwarded to the
Special Studies Committee for further review on Thursday, June 28,2007 at 6:00 PM in the
Caucus Rooms of Ci ty Hall.
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Tne';[pp"lI'C-arit seeks site plan and, design approval for a bank building.
The site is located at the 700 block of West Carmel Dr. and is zoned M-
3/Manufacturing.
Filed by Jim Shinaver of Nelson & Frankenberger for Irwin Union Realty Corp.
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Jim Shinaver, attomey, Nelson & Frankenberger appeared before the Commission representing the
applicant. Also present: Brandon Burke, Schneider Engineering
The applicant is seeking Development Plan, site plan and design approval for the Irwin Union Bank
building located in the 700 block of West Cannel Drive at the southeast intersection of Carnlel
Drive and City Center Drive. The parcel is within the Carmel Science and Technology Park and is
zoned M-3/Manufacturing.
The building will consist of approximately 5,500 square feet and will have access at City Center
Drive and Lakefront Court. The building materials consist ofEIFS walls and metal wall panels with
aluminum window frames and metal coping. A pOliion of the building is masonry brick veneer.
The signage on the east and west elevations will be internally illuminated, remote charmelletters.
(A variance will be needed for two (2) wall signs.) The site lighting provides for 23 foot tall poles
mOlmted on a two-foot base. The light fixtures are flat-lensed with fhll cut-off classification.
The landscape plan has been submitted to Scott Brewer, but not yet approved.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared
and the public hearing was closed.
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Department Report, Angie Conn: The petitioner is to provide Engineering approval/up-dates to the
Dept as well as landscape plan approval/up-dates. Currently, the landscape plan does not meet the
Ordinance. Additional details are to be provided on the ATM enclosure and signage; the sign
square footage is to be in concert with the Ordinance. The dumpster location should be looked at.
The Department requested that the petitioner provide crosswalk striping west of the bike rack, nOlih
of the sidewalk.
Sally Shapiro requested the incorporation of green parking spaces on the site. The petitioner stated
a willingness to review and determine if this was workable.
Jay Donnan expressed concern with the layout of the site in terms of stacking ability for the drive-
thm.
Rick Ripma reiterated his position on green parking spaces. Also, the location of the trash dumpster
is a concern-the petitioner should consider re-Iocating.
Wayne Haney requested that the bui (ding contain more green components-white roo f and skylights
perhaps.
Docket No. 07040021 DP/ADLS: Irwin Union Bank, Carmel Science & Tech Park, Block 11,
Lot 3 was referred to the Special Studies Conuuittee for further review on June 28, 2007 at 6:00 PM
in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
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