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City of Carmel
CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE MlliTES
THURSDAY, JUNE 28, 2007
The Special Studies Committee ofthe Carmel PLan Commission roet in the Caucus Room of City
hall at 6:00 p.m., June 28m 2007. Members present: Steve Stromquist, Madeline Torres, Kevin
Heber thereby establishing a quorum.
DOCS Staff present: Christine Barton-Holmes and Rachel Boone. John Molitor, Legal Counsel
was also in attendance.
Carol Schlief was an invited guest.
LOCATION: CAUCUS ROOMS
CARMEL CITY HALL
ONE CIVIC SQUARE
CARMEL, IN 46032
TIME: 6:00 P.M.
DOORS OPEN AT 5:30 P.M.
The Special Studies Committee win meet to consider therollowing items:
Steve Stromquist requested any changes to the agenda. Christine indicated the following:
There have been no continuances; the only change Christine would suggest is to combine items 11
and 12 Justus Business Park one is a Primary Plat and the other is a DP/ADLS Amends. The
Holiday Inn item is tabled and Item 17 has been tabled.
1. Docket No. 07030006 ADLS Amend: Red Robin - Clay Terrace
The applicant seeks approval for the construction of a free-standing, 6,350-square
foot restaurant with outdoor seating at Clay Terrace. The site is located at the
southeast comer of 146th Street and Clay Terrace Boulevard, and is zoned POD.
Filed by John Finnemore of Red Robin, Inc.
J ohnFinnemore, Senior Property Manger for Red Robin presented for the petitioner. Mr.
Finnemore distributed several handouts to the Committee, only change to site plan is
connection to the bike path. He has brought with him a material sample board and has actual
samples with him. He recapped what has been done to this building over time. First, changes
made were for staff and our landlords, we changed the tan EFTS to tan brick, we added the
patio, we double crowned the coroices and we raised the height of the entry feature. As we
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Justus Office Building with a commitment that ten ft. asphalt path stays also make
commitment that the white roofbe installed.
Paul Reis responded that you couLd make a request, however, it will be up to the developer.
Chris Miller indicated that this is something they will consider, however they have been in
business since 1910 - just to jump into on a 40,000 sq. ft. building I am not comfOliable telling
you I am going to do that right now -we will look into doing it.
Kevin Heber seconded the motion.
Approved 3-0
END
13. Docket No. ()7030037 DP/ADLS: West Carmel Marketplace - Burger King
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a proposed restaurant
building. The site is located at 9853 N Michigan Rd, and is zoned B-3/Business
within the US 421 Overlay. Filed by Richard Sampson of Burger King Corp.
Mike Dauss ofDauss Architects presented for the petitioner. He was accompanied by Richard
Sampson of Burger King.
Mr. Dauss distributed a site plan as it was presented to the Plan Commission. He reviewed the
comments with the Committee.
We were asked to provided two parking spaces for alternative fuel vehicles and if we can reach a
consideration on compromise - if you Look on the site plan next to the bike rack near a landscape
area we wouLd like to designate that space for that particular parking designation.
Concerning traffic flow - We had worked with staff prior to the Plan Commission meeting and
that comment took us by surprise. They did not like the stacking and they did not like the whole
site plan. We need more clarification on this. Weare open to changing that. What we had done
previous and we have photos we had visited this area and noted how other vendors had handled it
, i.e. Wendy's w had hoped to improve on that. Options we have looked are to perhaps move the
egress and entrance into the site closer to the intersection. The reason we did not present this
prior was we have some concerns simple because it would take and put cars right at the
intersection ofthe access drive, it could add to congestion. The second option, which is listed as
option A I need to point does not comply with the overlay because the overlay requires the drive
through to be in the rear of the building the stack and menu board all be in the back ofthe
development and I think that is part of the problem with the circulation is you have cars to going
the opposite. Option A does present another option for the flow of traffic that is why we have
brought it for your comment.
Item 3 to eliminate cross access easement. This actually was brought to us from the developer
originally and we are just following that. We understood the cross access was wanted across
those developments. If you could give us some more clarification it would be appreciated.
Item 4 the blue awnings. Again, we took our cues from sites that were near by , Mike distributed
photos of other vendors. He also presented samples materials ofthe fabric that is proposed
Item 5 no concern - screen wall will go above the refuse boxes.
Item 7 - LSI lighting - this is a developer dictated for that piece of property
Item 8 - commit to refresh signs in five years. This is corporate owned store and they have a
keen interest in keeping it updated and refreshed.
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Madeline Torres are we leaning toward Option A which would mean a variance would be
needed.
Steve Stromquist - yes that is how I am leaning
Mike Dauss ~ what do we need to do to accomplish this?
Christine Barton Holmes indicated that they would need to meet noticing requirements and if you
can get it on file within the next few days, the hearing is July 23.
Mike Dauss reiterated the building will turn - \vhat you would see as you came up on Michigan
Rd. would be that main entrance - W elevation win become the South - N will face the road.
Move the signage from the south to the west.
Carol Schlief make sure you get a lot of landscaping.
Madeline Tones made a motion to approve Docket No. 07030037 DP/ADLS: West Carmel
Marketplace - Burger King using Option A if approved by the BZA with brick bottom on the
sign board, if A is approved make sure landscaping is approved by Scott Brewer.
Kevin Heber seconded the motioo
Approved 3-0
14. Docket No. 07040021 DP/ADLS: Irwin Union Bank, Carmel Science & Tech
Park, Block 11, Lot 3
The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a bank building. The site is
located at the 700 block of West Carmel Dr. and is zoned M-3IManufacturing.
Filed by Jim Shioaver of Nelson & Frankenberger for Irwin Dillon Realty Corp.
Jim Shinaver presented for the petitioner. Todd Williams has a laptop with a presentation. Sean
green, sign contractor, civil engineer Brandon burke
I have prepared a presentalion intended to folloVv' along with the committee reports.
As explained at the initial plan commission meeting the real estate is zoned M3 and is located on
the southeast comer of Carnlel Drive and City Center Drive and is a lot within the Carmel
Science and Technology Park. We included in the original plan commission packet aerial
photos. Moving along thought eh Plan commissionJstaff report
1. Green parking spaces - we are willing to incorporate two spaces on the site, but the
concern is we don' l believe those spaces deserve the same importance of handicapped
spaces.
2. Concerns regarding building materials, architechn'e, attractiveness ofthe building. As
was explained at the PC meeting, we felt that some of the elevations we shared with you
were not truly reflective of we were proposing.
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