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JAMES J. NELSON
CHARLES D. FRANKENBERGER
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A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
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INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA 46280
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DAVID 1. LICHTENBERGER
JESSICA S OWENS
Of Counsel
JANE B. MERRILL
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October 1, 2007
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Angie Conn
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, rN 46032
RE: IH Docket No. 0705001 6Z II6!h Street Crossing PUD
Dear Angie:
Per my prior e-mail, please show this matter as formally withdrawn by the
Petitioner. Thank you.
Very truly yours,
NELSON & FRANKENBERGER
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Charles D. Frankenberger
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Charlie Frankenberger [chalie@NF-LAW.COM]
Sent: Monday, October 01 , 2007 2:51 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: RE: pud's & October plan commission agenda
Hi Angie,
Thank you for remembering and asking. Please note:
.lti,--RQGl:<:~.1J'--IQ.QZ_Q~Qj)_HLZ;J16JtU:Jt[~QL~r.Q~~jD.Q...EVQ.--Plea5e show this matter as formally withdrawn. I will
send you a separate letter confirming this. As such, please do not place this on the 10/16 PC Agenda.
ftL..J2.Q'2K~L~Q-,.._Q?'Q_QQQJLZ_:J~)9JjLSt[l:l~tCLQ~~if:lgEl,J[J--We are in the process of evaluating this and, as such,
please show this as still tabled and not on the 10/16 PC Agenda.
As an aside, I have a couple of questions about re-filing. In summary the PC rules state that a case withdrawn
by a petitioner cannot be placed on the docket until:
1-Six months after withdrawal, unless the case is a new case; and
2-Three months after withdrawal if the case is a new case.
Regarding the interpretation the words italicized, please let me know about the following:
1-ls the date on which the matter is again placed on the docket the date of the new public hearing, the date the
re-filed matter is assigned a docket number, or the date on which the re-filed matter is re-filed? In this regard,
there are about 60 days between filing and the public hearing, and it seems to me that it is most certain to
conclude that the matter is on the Plan Commission's docket when the public hearing occurs; however, of course,
we will defer to your discretion on this.
2-A case is a new case if it (i) involves more land, less land, or entirely different land or (i) involves the same land,
but includes different uses or standards. All of these, of course, are a matter of degree, and the close ones would
be subject to the Department's discretion. For instance, a case in which the only change is the addition of 1 use
or the addition of .02 acres may be determined to be substantially the same and subject to the 6 month rule.
Please let me know your thoughts and, in the interim, (I) please show 2H. (96th) as tabled and not on the
10/16 PC Agenda and (ii) I will send a letter formally withdrawing 1 H (116th) so that it, too, is not on the 10/16
Agenda.
Thanks for your help.
Charles D. Frankenberger
NELSON & FRANI<ENBERGER
3105 East 98th Street, Suite 170
Indianapolis IN 46280
Phone: 317-844-0106
Fax: 317-846-8782
http://www.nf-law.com
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10: 15 AM
To: Charlie Frankenberger
Subject: pud's & October plan commission agenda
10/112007
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Conn. Angelina V
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:39 PM
To: 'Charlie Frankenberger'
Subject: RE: pud's & October plan commission agenda
Charlie- yes, there is much interpretation to these specific ru les and, yes, there are 60 days between filing
deadlines. Seeing that neither of these items ever made it onto an official plan commission agenda, it is safe to
say that the Department would not hold you to the 3 month or the 6 month waiting time after withdrawal of this
project, in this particular instance.
Thanks,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square. 3rd Floor .
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in.gov
from: Charlie Frankenberger [mailto.:chalie@NF-LAW.COM]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2.007 2:51 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: RE: pud's & October plan commission agenda
Hi Angie,
Thank you for remembering and asking. Please note:
jtL_I:)Qt::_~el_1'-J9_.Q7QQQQ19Z:Jl(3Jh~tr~IiLC[QssjD9E)J)[:)--Please show this matter as formally withdrawn. I will
send you a separate letter confirming this. As such, please do not place this on the 10/16 PC Agenda.
2.tJ.,..J2.Q_GJs.~LN.Q,-.Q?QQ.QQ1ZZ:_~f:)Jb$t[eeLCfQ$$ingJ=:J)J:)--We are in the process of evaluating this and, as such,
please show this as still tabled and not on the 10/16 PC Agenda.
As an aside, I have a couple of questions about re-filing. In summary the PC rules state that a case withdrawn
by a petitioner cannot be placed on the docket until:
1-Six months after withdrawal, unless the case is a new case; and
2- Three months after withdrawal if the case is a new case.
Regarding the interpretation the words italicized, please let me know about the following:
1-ls the date on which the matter is again placed on the docket the date of the new public hearing, the date the
re-filed matter is assigned a docket number, or the date on which the re-filed matter is re-filed? In this regard,
there are about 60 days between filing and the public hearing, and it seems to me that it is most certain to
conclude that the matter is on the Plan Commission's docket when the public hearing occurs; however, of course,
we will defer to your discretion on this.
2-A case is a new case if it (i) involves more land, less land, or entirely different land or (i) involves the same land,
but includes different uses or standards. All of these, of course, are a matter of degree, and the close ones would
be subject to the Department's discretion. For instance, a case in which the only change is the addition of 1 use
or the addition of .02 acres may be determined to be substantially the same and subject to the 6 month rule.
Please let me know your thoughts and, in the interim, (i) please show 2H. (96th) as tabled and not on the
10/16 PC Agenda and (ii) I will send a letter formally withdrawing 1 H (116th) so that it, too, is not on the 10/16
Agenda.
Thanks for your help.
10/1/2007
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Charlie Frankenberger [chalie@NF-LAW.COM]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:53 PM
To: Hollibaugh, Mike P; Conn, Angelina V; Holmes, Christine B
Subject: Status of 2 Duke Matters
Hi Mike, Angie, and Christine,
We are continuing to work on 96th Street Crossing (Docket # 07050017 Z) and 116th Street Crossing (Docket #
07050016 Z) and, pending this, we thought it would be helpful to provide a brief status report and to confirm that we are
requesting that neither matter be placed on an agenda for Plan Commission or for TAC. To this end, please note:
1-With respect to 96th Street Crossing and 116th Street Crossing, we are requesting to not be placed or even appear as
continued on the (i) August 07 Plan Commission Agenda, or (ii) on any subsequent Plan Commission Agenda. In this
way, we will avoid confusion that may result from appearing as an entry on an agenda before we have given public
notice and are ready to proceed. We will keep the Department updated, and we will let the Department know when we
have given notice so that we can be placed on the Plan Commission Agenda for which we have given notice
2-With respect to 96th Street Crossing, we are in the process of evaluating the manner in which we will proceed and,
pending that determination, we want to remain on file but are requesting to not be placed or even appear as continued on
any agendas.
3-With respect to 116th Street Crossing, we are continuing to work on and revise the land plan and corresponding PUD,
and we do not anticipate that plans will be sufficiently definite to permit us to be heard by Plan Commission until the 3rd
Tuesday in November, at the earliest. Pending our request to be placed on an agenda, we are requesting that we not be
placed or even appear as continued on any agendas.
As indicated, we will keep you fully apprised and updated.
Should you have any questions or comments, please let me know. Thanks.
Charles D. Frankenberger
NELSON & FRANI<ENBERGER
3105 East 98th Street, Suite 170
Indianapolis IN 46280
Phone: 317-844-0106
Fax: 317-846-8782
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From: Charlie Frankenberger [cha/ie@NF-LAW.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 20074:51 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Jennifer.Burk@Dukerealty.com
Cc: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: RE: 116th Street crossing PUD - review letter #2
Hi Angie,
We recently met with the Mayor and Mike Holilbaugh, and we have determined that it is not feasible for us to go to
Plan Commission in August. We need to revise our plans, and meet again. After our plans are revised, we will be in a
position to also revise the PUD to conform to the revised plan. Considering this, we will not notice for and August Plan
Commission hearing, are asking to not be placed on the Plan Commission's agenda for the August public hearing.
Once our plans are revised, we will again meet.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. As always, than ks for you help
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:06 PM
To: Jennifer.Burk@Dukerealty.com
Cc: Charlie Frankenberger
Subject: 116th Street crossing PUD - review letter #2
Hi, Jennifer:
Please see attached review letter #2 for the 116th Street Crossing PUD. Original will be mailed today.
Please set up a meeting with Christine Barton-Holmes and myself to go over the PUD language, prior to the August 21
plan commission meeting.
Thank you.
Angie Connl Planning Administrator
Dept, of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p. 317-571-2417 f. 317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in,gov
7111/2007
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Charlie Frankenberger [chalie@NF-LAW.COM]
Sent: Monday, June 18,2007 3:51 PM
To: Hollibaugh, Mike P; Conn, Angelina V
Cc: Jennifer Burk; Blaine Paul; Aaron Reynolds; John Girod; Matt.anderson@dukerealty.com
Subject: Duke-Sexton Update
Hi Mike and Angie,
Regarding the Sexton (96th Street) matter, we have concluded that we will not be in a position to proceed with (i) TAC
on Wednesday, June 20, or (ii) Plan Commission in July. We will keep you apprised as we continue to assess this matter.
Regarding Pittman, we will go to TAC on Wednesday, June 20, at 9:50 a.m. and, although we will not be in a position
to go to Plan Commission in July, we are planning on going to Plan Commission in August. In advance, we and our land
planners will meetwith you to obtain input on our proposed plan.
Should you have any questions or comments about this, please call or email. Thanks.
6/18/2007
Conn, Angelina V
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Tingley, Connie S
Thursday, June 14,20072:26 PM
Coy, Sue E; Boone, Rachel M.; Stewart, Lisa M; Conn, Angelina V; Holmes, Christine B
FW: Duke Realty Checks
Importance:
High
FYI See below
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-----Original Message-----
From: Carla Lakia [mailto:Carla.Lakia@dukerealty.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:23 PM
To: Tingley, Connie S
Cc: Matt Anderson
Subject: Duke Realty Checks
Connie-
Will you please forward this email on to whomever may receive checks. From what I am
told, the following jobs have been delayed and we do not wish to pay the docket fee at
this time. When the checks are received, will you please mail them back to Duke Realty at
my attention (the address is below). Thanks.
Docket #: 07050016Z: 116th Street Crossing PUD Check #: 146986
Amount: $9,764.26
Check Date: 06/11/2007
Docket #: 07050017Z: 96th Street Crossing PUD Check #: 146987
Amount: $4,583.89
Check Date: 06/11/2007
Thank you,
Carla Lakia
Duke Realty
Project Accountant
600 East 96th Street, Ste 100
Indianapolis, IN 46240
phone (317) 808 - 6508
Fax ( 31 7 ) 808 - 6776
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