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JAMES BRAINARD, MAYOR
Mr. Gregory S. Snelling, P.E.
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
Dear Mr. Snelling:
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RE: Old Meridian Professional Village Development Plans-Project Review #2
The City has reviewed the revised plans provided in response to the Department comment letter dated
September 18, 2007. The Department offers the following comments:
DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS
1. Previous comment 38 (b). The Department restates this comment.
2. Previous Comment 42. The Department is reviewing your response with the City Engineer.
3. Previous Comment 44. Such revisions will be necessary depending on resolution of previous
comment 42.
4. Previous Conunent 45. The Department will confirm your response with Crossroad Engineers and
the Hamilton County Surveyors Office.
5. Previous Comment 46. The response is being confirmed with Amanda Foley of the Department of
Engineering.
6. Previous Comment 47. Thank you for making the requested revisions. Is the lane width indicated
consistent with other median left turn lanes installed with the Old Meridian Street project? The
Department would consider an II-foot lane the minimum width of the lane.
7. Previous Comment 51. Thank you for your response. The City standard is to have no part of the
entrance be wider than 30-feet in the right-of-way (excepting the area created by the return radii).
It appears that the return radii on the north side of the drive varies and allows a portion of the
throat to become wider than 30-feet.
FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS
8. Previous Comment I. Thank you for making the requested revisions. Please add a note that the
service laterals shall be bored to a point beyond the limits of the proposed right-of-way.
9. Previous Comment 2. Please replace Detail OllC603 with the City standard detail available from
the web site.
10. Previous Comment 3. Thank you for indicating a Traffic Maintenance Plan. Please add text to the
note at the bottom right comer of the sheet that all work shall conform to the Indiana Department
of Transportation Work Zone Safety Manual.
11. Previous Comment 4. Thank you for adding the appropriate ADA ramp details. Please also add
Details E604SWCR-Ol and E604SWCR-02, as edited by the City. Please contact our office to
obtain these details.
12. Previous Comment 7. Thank you for indicating the depressed curb. The plans shall be more
specific as to the removal of the existing curb and the replacement curbing. The limits of the
required curb removal shall be noted for each of the Pennsylvania Street entrances (where curbing
exists), for the proposed Old Meridian Street entrance and for the existing depressed curb at the
existing Old Meridian Street entrance that is to be removed. The curbing shall be sawcut at the
nearest joint beyond the required limits of removal. A keynote for integral curb and walk shall be
indicated on the site plan for the improvements at the northernmost Old Meridian entrance that is
to be removed.
DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING
ONE CIVIC SQUARE, CARMEL, IN 46032 OFFICE 317.5712441 FAX 3175712439
EMAIL engineering@carmeLin,gov
Mr. Gregory S. Snelling
January 15,2008
RE: Old Meridian Professional Village Development Plans Rev. #1
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13. Previous Comment 10. Please revise Note 18 on Sheet C401 to indicate: "There shall be no
frames, castings, etc. from storm, sanitary, or water main structures, manholes, or valve boxes in
path, walk, aprons, or pavement in the right-of-way."
14. Previous Comment 13. Please indicate why HMA entrances are indicated. The Department would
be willing to consider lIMA aprons with proper justification.
15. Previous Comment 15. Please see Comment 32 of this letter.
16. Previous Comment 18. Thank you for adding the requested language. Please also add the note for
the work associated with the closure of the northernmost entrance on Old Meridian Street.
Removal of the existing curb and installation of the proposed curbing may damage the SSD.
17. Previous Comment20. Thank you for adding the requested note and for indicating the sawcut on
Sheet C204 for the Pennsylvania Street auxiliary lanes. Please also indicate a sawcutting keynote
for the construction of the median left turn lane on Old Meridian Street unless you are of the
opinion that the face resulting from the removal of the median curb will be similar to that face
created by sawcutting.
18. Previous Comment 22. Thank you for indicating the re-stripingplan. Please revise the lane
striping indicated by Keynote "0" on Sheet C204 to be a solid white line per Keynote <OK" with a
break for the southernmost entrance on pennsylvania Street. Please also extend the taper for the
first northbound left turn on Pennsylvania Street north of the roundabout to the end of the existing
median to maximize the taper length.
19. Previous Comment 24. The Department will confrrm your response with the Hamilton County
Surveyors Office.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
20. General Items
a. Does the footing of the wall alongthe north property line encroach onto the adjacent
property?
b. Is a rail needed at the top of the wall where the sidewalk is adjacent to the wall (north of
the northernmost building)?
c. Please confirm ifthe 8-inch water main is to be installed under Pennsylvania Street by
trenchless method. Any open trench in the right-of-way shall be backfilled in accordance
with Comment 32 of this letter. Open cuts of Pennsylvania Street requires Board of
Public Works and Safety approval.
21. Sheet C002
a. Please confirm that the language of Article 3.06 of Specifications Section 2300 is
acceptable to Amanda Foley.
22. Sheet CIOI and CI02
a. The demolition plan shall be revised to require the removal of the existing ADA ramps
installed as a part of the Old Meridian Street project as it appears that the work at the
proposed entrance and for the existing entrance to be removed requites the removal of
these ramps. The existing walk shall be sawcut atthe nearest joint beyond the limits of
removaL
23. Sheet C201
a. Please indicate depressed curb across the northwest Pennsylvania Street entrance or
indicate why this curb is not being installed.
b. Is it possible to locate the stairs noted by Keynote "22" out of the right-of-way?
24. Sheet C202
. a. Is it possible to locate the stairs noted by Keynote "22" out of the right-of-way?
25. Sheet C204.
a. Please indicate depressed curb across the northwest PeJUlsylvania Street entrance or
indicate why this curb is not being installed.
b. Keynote "H". Please revise to-reference depressed curb detail.
Mr. Gregol)' S. Snelling
January 15,2008
RE: Old Meridian Professional Village Development Plans Rev. #1
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26. Sheet C30 I
a. The flood protection note shall be revised to conform to the Stonn Water Technical
Standards. Please contact our office for the language.
b. Please move Note 3 to Sheets C201 and C202 or include this note on these sheets also.
27. Sheet C302
a. Please indicate spot elevation shots in the median or provide a note requiring the crown
of the roadway to be extended into the taper and lane area.
b. Please move Note 3 to Sheets C20 I and C202 or include this note on these sheets also.
28. Sheet C401
a. Note 16 shall be revised to require backfill in accordance with City specifications where
such installations are in the existing and proposed right-of-way.
29. Sheet C402
a. Note 16 shall be revised to require backfill in accordance with City specifications where
such installations are in the existing and proposed right-of-way.
30. Sheet C403.
a. Please indicate granular backfill between Structures 101 and LS.
b. Backfill in existing and proposed right-of-way shall be per City Standard for piping
between structures 104-103, 103-102, 102-101, and 101-LS.
31. Sheet C602
a. Please replace Detail 05/C602 with the City standard detail.
32. Sheet C603
a. Please add a note to Detail "Trench Detail and Trench Schedule" that indicates "Final
backfill for water mains, water service laterals, sanitary mains and sanitary.service
laterals for all installations within City right-of-way shall be B-Borrow for Structure
Backfill meeting the material requirements of the INnOr. The material shall be
approved by the City of Carmel Department of Engineering at time of installation. Final
backfill shall be compacted in 6-inch maximum lifts to not less than 95% Standard
Proctor Density for the entire depth of the material placed. The backfill for the top 6-
inches of the excavation below the start of the aggregate sub-base of the pavement shall
be No. 53 Stone meeting the material requirements of the INDOT and shall be compacted
to not less than 95% Standard Proctor Density. Ifthe standard practice of the utility that
has jurisdiction over the installation has a more stringent final backfill requirement, the
more stringent requirement shall govern."
[fyou have questions, please contact me at 571-2441.
Sincerely,
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Assistant City Engine r
Department of Engineering
cc: Angelina Conn, Department of Community Services
John DuffY, Carmel Utilities
Paul Pace, Carmel Utilities
Greg [tko, Crossroad Engineers, PC
Department Review/File Copy
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Conn, Ang'elina V
From: Brewer, Scott I
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:11 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: FW: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Angie:
Here is Greg Snelling's reply to my email. I still do not know the size of the landscape islands because they will not tell
me, I guess J have to scale the plans they supply, and then they will tell me I am wrong, 400 sf would make them 10' x
40' and if look as if most of them are that. His comment #4 is completely ridiculous, "the owner will replace the trees as
they die rather than providing what it takes to let them get large?" And we can do that because we have a qualified
landscape architect who can put slow growing plants in small islands?
That is the only issue I still have with this plan, I think the parking lot islands may be too small to support mature trees.
Structures soils, or Silva-cell technology, or any type of expanded soil volume technology would solve this problem, but at
this point, they have refused to listen.
Scott Brewer, City Forester
Environmental Planner, DOCS
City of Carmel,
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
PH: 317-571-2478
FAX: 317-571-2426
From: Greg Snelling [mailto:gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:34 PM
To: Brewer, Scott I
Cc: 'Darren Reno'; 'Reis, Paul'; 'Davis, Brent'; Conn, Angelina V; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
Subject: RE: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Scott, to clarify some of your questions:
1. Darren Reno has sent you another e-mail this afternoon with a pdf of the landscaping notes and details sheet that
should answer your questions about minimum soil volumes for each tree in the parking areas. The detail note 6 states
that the contractor is to excavate the entire landscape island area and replace with the approved soil mix to the bottom of
the root ball. I believe this is more than your typical minimum requirement of12" beyond the root ball in the horizontal
direction.
2. My e-mail to you was referencing the letter from DOCS, not one your own standards, so Idid not intend to attach your
standards to my e-mail. In any event, I don't think there is a minimum standard for landscape islands.
3. The developer does not want to lose any more parking spaces, so increasing the size of many of the islands to be a
minimum 400 SF cannot be done unless it is found that this is a local code requirement (which I have not been able to
find).
4. The owner will replace trees that die in lieu of providing larger islands. Darren Reno is a qualified RLA who has
appropriately designed the landscape plan so slower growing trees would be in smaller islands.
5. The revised landscape plan which was sent to you earlier shows the trees. along OM moved to the northwest at least
15' away from the Regulated Drain pipe, which keeps it out of the 30' easement that is anticipated to be in place in the
future. The reason that the easement has not been shown is that it does not exist right now according to my records. I
believe Greg Hayes confirmed this at the TAC meeting.
I believe we have addressed your concerns as well as possible for the particular site plan. I know that many of your
preferences would potentially increase the lifespan of some of the proposed trees. More room to grow is always better,
but this is an urban area, as you have stated, and we have done our best to produce an efficient site plan given all of the
constraints from all regulatory agencies.
9/1812007
Conn, Angelina V
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Greg Hayes [grh@co.hamilton.in.us]
Monday, September 17, 20074:45 PM
Conn, Angelina V
Paul' 'Reis; Brent' 'Davis; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com; 'Darren Reno'; Greg
Snelling
Re: Old M~rjdian Professional Village
Angie
Based on the revised landscape plans I just reviewed for this project, HCBO agree the tree
conflict with the Regulated Drain has been resolved. We still are not ready to grant
overall project approval because the storm drainage/detention is still be worked on with
Carmel Engineering. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Greg Hoyes
HCBO Plan Reviewer
>;>;> "Greg Snelling" <gsnelling@snellingeng.com> 8:26 PM Thursday,
>>> September 13, 2007 >;>;>
Greg, per the attached letter, I wanted to check with you about our proposed solution to
the concern about landscaping being too close to the piped Fertig Drain from the Meijer
detention area to the culvert crossing OM street. We are proposing to move the proposed
trees and landscaping to at least 15' northwest of the pipe which would keep it out of the
easement. I assume this would be acceptible. If not let me know. If this idea is OK, I
can get you a revised landscape plan bye-mail depicting these trees being moved if
needed.
Also, regarding an update on the drainage review, I am working with Crossroads' and
ultimately with City Engineer (once they can provide a review letter) for the onsite
drainage design. Based on our previous correspondence, I believe your office's
jurisdiction would only be related to the release rate, with which we intend to comply.
Can you reply to this e-mail to address issue #3 on the attached letter and copy Angie
Conn prior to Tuesday's Plan Commission meeting. Thank you.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663 -32 08 (fax)
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Brewer, Scott I
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:48 AM
To: 'Greg Snelling'
Cc: 'Darren Reno'; 'Reis, Paul'; 'Davis, Brent'; Conn, Angelina V; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
Subject: RE: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Attachments: Greendell Mulch
Dear Greg:
The Department report speaks for itself, I did not write it. I believe that Angie was just trying to communicate the issues I
have spoken about to you and Daren. Darren has promised me some figures on the soil volumes for the landscape
islands, since their stated dimensions are not on my plans; and their size does worry me a little if they are capable of
supporting trees that will grow large enough to shade the parking lot. And the City's minimum standards for landscape
islands, I thought you were attaching those for me to review?
They should be at least 400 square feet in area (minimum) and deep enough to provide enough useable soil volumes to
allow the trees planted in them 35-40 years unimpeded growth. This is very difficult to produce in parking lots, which is
another reason that so many developers/owners have gone with structural soil here. I have attached my local contact for
structural soils (Greendell Mulch of Mooresville); you might find some actual cost information from them, if you haven't.
You have told me that the owner has elected not to spend money on structural soils (or apparently any other type of
extended soil volumes) because it is not required in the landscape ordinance. Nor do we tell people exactly how to design
their buildings architecturally or engineering-wise by ordinances in most cases. They just have to be designed to do what
they do, and one of the things they need to do if support landscaping in the parking lots. I want to be sure that they can
do that, that the shade trees have enough soil to grow large enough to provide shade to the parking lot and remain
healthy for a substantial number of years. If the soil volumes are not large enough, the trees get to a certain size
(determined by the soil volumes) and begin to die. On the economic side, a tree must be in the ground ten to twelve
years to begin to overcome the installation and maintenance costs, and begin "paying" the owner back by providing
infrastructure benefits, such heat island attenuation, storm water adsorption, etc. In tight urban developments like this,
trees are a very important part of the mix.
I am also waiting on the plan because there is a Hamilton County Surveyor's Office legal drain easement along Old
Meridian that you will not be able plant in, forcing the trees along Old Meridian back to with in about 10 feet of the front of
the most northern building. The plans I have gotten to this point have not shown this easement, or where the planting
must occur. The plans I have also have many sets of lines running parallel in this area, including the existing curb cut. I
need a plan that is cleaned up and legible. Again, Darren has told me they were holding off sending me a plan (one,
because they assumed things would change after the latest Plan Commission meeting, and two, they didn't want to spend
the money until they had too).
As 1 have said, the species varieties are very good on the plan and I have no problem with those type issues. I just have
a few unresolved things, and will need a revised plan when additional issues have been decided.
Scott Brewer, City Forester
Environmental Planner, DOCS
City of Carmel,
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
PH: 317-571-2478
FAX: 317-571-2426
From: Greg Snelling [mailto:gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 20078:08 PM
To: Brewer, Scott I
Cc: 'Darren Reno'; 'Reis, Paul'; 'Davis, Brent'; Conn, Angelina V; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
9/14/2007
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Conn) Angelina V
From: Greg Snelling [gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:34 PM
To: Brewer, Scatt I
Cc: 'Darren Reno'; 'Reis, Paul'; 'Davis, Brent'; Conn, Angelina V; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
Subject: RE: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Scott, to clarify some of your questions:
1. Darren Reno has sent you another e-mail this afternoon with a pdf of the landscaping notes and details sheet that
should answer your questions about minimum soil volumes for each tree in the parking areas. The detail note 6 states
that the contractor is to excavate the entire landscape island area and replace with the approved soil mix to the bottom of
the root ball. I believe this is more than your typical minimum requirement of 12" beyond the root ball in the horizontal
direction.
2. My e-mail to you was referencing the letter from DOCS, not one your own standards, sol did not intend to attach your
standards t6 my e-mail. In any event, I don't think there is a minimum standard for landscape islands.
3. The developer does not want to lose any more parking spaces, so increasing the size of many of the islands to be a
minimum 400 SF cannot be done unless it is found that this is a local code requirement (which I have not been able to
find).
4. The owner will replace trees that die in lieu of providing larger islands. Darren Reno is a qualified RLA who has
appropriately designed the landscape plan so slower growing trees would be in smaller islands.
5. The revised landscape plan which was sent to you earlier shows the trees along OM moved to the northwest at least
15' away from the Regulated Drain pipe, which keeps it out of the 30' easement that is anticipated to be in place in the
future. The reason that the easement has not been shown is that it does not exist right now according to my records. I
believe Greg Hayes confirmed this at the TAC meeting.
I believe we have addressed your concerhs as well as possible for the particular site plan. I know that many of your
preferences would potentially increase the lifespan of some of the proposed trees. More room to grow is always better,
but this is an urban area, as you have stated, and we have done our best to produce an efficient site plan given all of the
constraints from all regulatory agencies.
Please call if you would like to discuss these issues further. We would hope that you would realize that we have done our
best as designers addressing your concerns even though we are not completely agreeing to all of your preferences.
Since they are preferences and not enforceable code to my knowledge, we look forward to a response to this effect so
that Angie will be able to state to the PC that we have generally satisfied your outstanding issues. Thank you for your
consideration.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
From: Brewer, Scott I [mailto:SBrewer@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:48 AM
To: Greg Snelling
Cc: Darren Reno; Reis, Paul; Davis, Brent; Conn, Angelina V; Kurt Dehner; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
Subject: RE: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Dear Greg:
9/17/2007
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Reis, Paul [preis@boselaw.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:05 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: kurt.dehner@altabc.com; gsnelling@snellingeng.com; bdavis@csoinc.net
Subject: RE: September 18 Plan Commission Department Reports
Attachments: UPLIGHTING-GROU N DSIGNLOCA TIONS.pdf
Angie
I have reviewed the Department Report and have asked Greg Snelling to follow up with Scott Brewer and Greg Hayes on
items 1 and 3. We will certainly follow the City design on the street lighting and light lamp design and will finalize same at
the same time that we finalize the engineering plans with the Engineering Department. With respect to item 4, please refer
to the attachment and TAB 9 of the information booklet filed August 10. behind the elevations of the signs, for the site plan
showing ground sign locations.
If there is any other information that you need, please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks so much for your
assistance.
Best Regards,
Paul
Paul G. Reis, Esq.
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Subject: September 18 Plan Commission Department Reports
Greetings!
Attached are the Department Reports for the September 18 Plan Commission meeting. Please note that Item 4H. Docket
No. 07070037 Z: Dixie Highway Addition, lot 5 pt, Rezone, has been tabled to the Oct. 16 meeting. (This is in addition
to the 2 other tabled items relating to Kousa Street Cottages at 531 S Guilford Rd.)
Please contact me if you have any questions/concerns.
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in.gov
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From:
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To:
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Subject:
Greg Snelling [gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:08 PM
Brewer, Scott I
'Darren Reno'; 'Reis, Paul'; 'Davis, Brent'; Conn, Angelina V; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
FW: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Importance: High
Attachments: PC Dept Report-2007-0918.pdf
Scott, I believe the site plan for this project meets the City minimum standards for landscape islands (see attached). If
this is not correct, please refer me to the appropriate section of the ordinance. I know you were hoping that the developer
would spend the extra money on the structural soil, but since it is not a requirement, they have elected not to do it for
financial reasons.
If the ordinance does not require larger landscape islands than we are showing, please inform Angie that the plan is
satisfactory by Monday or Tuesday so that this issue is satisfied for the Plan Commission. Thank you.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
9/14/2007
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Greg Snelling [gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:14 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com; 'Davis, Brent'
Subject: FW: Department Report on Old Meridian Professional Village
Importance: High
Attachments: PC Dept Report-2007 -0918.pdf
Angie, a response to number 4 would be that I have spoken with Dick Hill of the Engineering Department as of a couple
weeks ago and he was not aware of any City standard light pole on file in their office but that he would look into it and get
back with me. I have not heard back, but I can say that lighting along Old Meridian on the northwest side of the street
along the frontage of the subject projectwill be done using the City of Carmel standard light poles. I just don't have a
detail for you since they haven't been able to provide it to me. Does this satisfy #4?
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
9/14/2007
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Greg Snelling [gsnelling@snellingeng.com)
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:26 PM
To: 'Greg Hayes'
Cc: Conn, Angelina V; 'Darren Reno'; 'Reis, Paul'; 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbullding.com; 'Davis, Brent'
Subject: Old Meridian Professional Village
Importance: High
Attachments: PC Dept Report-2007-0918.pdf
Greg, per the attached letter, I wanted to check with you about our proposed solution to the concern about landscaping
being too close to the piped Fertig Drain from the Meijer detention area to the culvert crossing OM street. We are
proposing to move the proposed trees and landscaping to at least 15' northwest of the pipe which would keep it out of the
easement. I assume this would be acceptible. If not let me know. If this idea is OK, I can get you a revised landscape
plan bye-mail depicting these trees being moved if needed.
Also, regarding an update on the drainage review, I am working with Crossroads' and ultimately with City Engineer (once
they can provide a review letter) for the onsite drainage design. Based on our previous correspondence, I believe your
office's jurisdiction would only be related to the release rate, with which we intend to comply. Can you reply to this e-mail
to address issue #3 on the attached letter and copy Angie Conn prior to Tuesday's Plan Commission meeting. Thank
you.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
9/14/2007
SNELll NG
ENCINEERING, LtC
August 21, 2007
Ms. Angelina Conn
City of Carmel DOCS
One Civic Square
Carmel, TN 46032
RE: Old Meridian Professional Village
#07070005 DP/ ADLS
Dear Ms. Conn:
Attached please fInd a revised Site Plan in pdf format for the subject project. The plan
addresses comments related to the layout of the proposed buildings, pavement and walkways
outlined in your letter to Paul Reis dated July 10,2007. Comments related to architectural,
landscaping, signage and lighting issues have been or will be addressed in separate
correspondence. The project landscape architect is working with Scott Brewer to address
landscaping issues. I will be forwarding a revised site lighting plan shortly.
Specific Site Plan-related comments were addressed as follows:
9. Work indicated to be done by others now lists the agency perfonning the work.
17. The varying half right-of-way along Pennsylvania Street is now shown.
18. The developer is considering using pervious concrete on the site, although a decision has
not been made.
20. A table was added showing the proposed building frontage along Old Meridian Street.
30. No on-street parking is proposed.
31. This issue was addressed in previous e-mail correspondence with you dated July 13,2007.
32. The two buildings along the west property line have been moved west as requested.
33. The percentage of pavement coverage is now indicated in a table.
Hopefully this addresses your outstanding comments regarding the Site Plan. I apologize for
any delay in responding to your letter. If you have any questions, please contact.me at 663-
3206. Thank you.
Sincerely,
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Snelling Engineering, LLC
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From: Greg Snelling [gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Monday, August 27,2007 1 :28 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: Old Meridian Professional Center
Attachments: ADLS SITE LIGHTING PLAN-Paper.PDF
Angie, attached is the revised lighting plan. This was a very minor revision - one pole needed 10 move to reduce a couple
lighting levels from 0.6 to 0.5 (max) along the north property line - but this should satisfy your concerns regarding the
lighting levels along the north property line. Lei me know if you have any questions. Thank you.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
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Ms. Angelina Conn
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One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
RE: Old Meridian Professional Village
#07070005 DP; ADLS
Dear Ms. Conn:
Attached please find a revised Site Plan in pdf format for the subject project. The plan
addresses comments related to the layout of the proposed buildings, pavement and walkways
outlined in your letter to Paul Reis dated July 10,2007. Comments related to architectural,
landscaping, signage and lighting issues have been or will be addressed in separate
correspondence. The project landscape architect is working with Scott Brewer to adch'ess
landscaping issues. I will be forwarding a revised site lighting plan shortly.
Specific Site Plan-related comments were addressed as follows:
9. Work indicated to be done by others now lists the agency perfom1ing the work.
17. The varying half right-of-way along Pennsylvania Street is now shown.
18. The developer is considering using pervious concrete on the site, although a decision has
not been made.
20. A table was added showing the proposed building frontage along Old Meridian Street.
30. No on-street parking is proposed.
31. This issue was addressed in previous e-mail correspondence with you dated July 13,2007.
32. The two buildings along the west property line have been moved west as requested.
33. The percentage of pavement coverage is now indicated in a table.
Hopefully this addresses your outstanding comments regarding the Site Plan. I apologize for
any delay in responding to your letter. If you have any questions, please contact me at 663-
3206. Thank you.
Sincerely,
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Snelling Engineering, LLC
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From: Greg Snelling [gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21,2007 1:47 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: 'Kurt Dehner'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com; 'Davis, Brent'; 'Brueggert, Dan'; 'Reis, Paul'
Subject: Old Meridian Professional Village
Attachments: Letter to DOCS 8-21-07.pdf; ADLS SITE PLAN-Paper.PDF
Angie, attached is an initial response to your comments dated July 10, 2007. I should be able to have the revised site
lighting plan to you in the next couple days. The landscape architect, Darren Reno, has been in contact with Scott Brewer
and should be working out the landscaping comments in the near future. I can forward hard copies as needed. Let me
know jf you have any questions. Thank you.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone )
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
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From: Brewer, Scott I
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:33 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: Old Meridian Professional Village
Angie:
I have left an voice mail for Greg Snelling asking him to meet early next week to answer some questions about this plat.
have spoken to the landscape architect and the landscape plan does have good diversity. I'm just a little worried about
the soil volumes left for some of the trees. I'm trying to push then to use the Siva-cell technology or structural soils.
Scott Brewer, City Forester
Environmental Planner, DOCS
City of Carmel,
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
PH: 317-571-2478
FAX: 317-571-2426
8/16/2007
Alta Business Communities - Old Meridian Street
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Sent: Friday. August 03, 2007 5:48 PM
To: Mark T. Monroe
Cc: Conn, Angelina V; Holmes, Christine B . ~~ \j;\ \O-Lf
Subject: RE: Alta Business Communities - Old Meridian StFeet- <?X 0
Hello Mark
Thank you for following-up with this emaH. I am comfortable with what you have written and will share with staff planners
working of PC and BZA petitions.
Mike H.
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From: Mark T. Monroe [mailto:MMonroe@binghammchale.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 20073:05 PM
To: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Subject: Alta Business Communities - Old Meridian Street
Mike,
I wanted to follow up with you on our phone discussion regarding the existing sign on the Spannan property located at the
northeast carner of Penn and Old Meridian. Per our discussion, you agreed to the following (knowing that the sign will
eventually be removed):
1. Not to mention the sign in your department reports or otherwise call attention to the sign to the Plan Commission or
BZA members.
2. If a Plan Commission or BZA member inquires about the sign, assist the petitioner's or owner's attorney in explaining
thai the sign will eventually be removed and the existence of the sign should not be a reason to delay or condition the
approval of Alta's ADLS, Development Plan or Variance petitions.
I believe this properly memorializes our understanding. Please reply indicating same.
Thanks and have a great weekend.
Mark T. Monroe
Bingham. McHale LLP
2700 Market Tower
10 West Market St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Ph: 317-635-8900
Fax: 317-236-9907
Email: mmonroe@binghammchale.com
8/6/2007
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Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Suite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
RE: Old Meridian Professional Village
Dear Mr. Snelling:
The above mentioned project has been received and reviewed.
At the present time, I see nothing in the plans that would hamper law
enforcement efforts.
If we can be of any further assistance to you, please ,contact us.
Respectfully,
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Chief of Police
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From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:47 AM
To: 'Greg Snelling'
Cc: 'Reis, Paul'; kurt.dehner@altabc.com; 'Davis, Brent'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
Subject: RE: Old Meridian Professional Village
Hi, Greg:
You are correct on the parking space dimensions and angled parking. You will not need a waiver or variance for the
current parking spaces layout.
Currently, Paul Reis will be filing a variance request for the BZA to review, regarding building setback for buildings along
Old Meridian; you can easily include the building setback along Pennsylvania in that variance request, should you need
to. It can be a type of "blanket variance" for the whole site....
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of COmmunity Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p. 317~571-2417 f.317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in.gov
From: Greg Snelling [mailto:gsnelling@snellingeng.com]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:.39 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Cc: 'Reis, Paul'; kurt.dehner@altabc.com; 'Davis, Brent'; trieser@dublinbuilding.com
Subject: Old Meridian Professional Village
Angie, a question I have about your comment letter dated July 10,2007 is regarding #31. While I believe you meant
9'x20' or 10'x18', Chapter 27 Section 05 is in conflict with this. I based the layout on 27.05 (which appears to apply to all
sites in Carmel) in order to achieve an acceptible parking ratio. If for some reason 27.05 does not apply, can this
be approved by DOCS as a 20% dimensional standard waiver? Similarly, could we move the northwestern building to 15'
from the R/W to be in line with the parking with a 25% dimensional standard waiver through DOCS?
Other comments will be discussed at TAC and addressed with revisions and/or a formal response. Thanks and have a
good day.
Greg Snelling, PE
Snelling Engineering, LLC
13295 Illinois Street, Su ite 142
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 663-3206 (telephone)
(317) 663-3208 (fax)
7/13/2007
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Bose McKinney & Evans LLP
301 Pennsylvania Pkwy, Suite 300
Indianapolis, IN 46280
RE: Old Meridian Professional Village (#07070005 DP/ADLS) - Development Plan and Architecture,
Design, Landscaping, Lighting & Signage Applications
Dear Mr. Reis:
This letter is in response to your DP/ADLS Applications for Old Meridian Professional Village. Members at
the TAC Meeting will make additional comments on July 18. Please complete the following items:
Bring material/color samples to the Plan Commission meeting.
Remember to include the DP application Findings of Fact sheet in your info packets.
Provide the filled out notice of public hearing page.
Provide the filled out and notarized affidavit of notice of public hearing page.
Provide the filled out and notarized Public Notice Sign Placement affidavit.
Provide a copy of the Official list of Adjacent Property owners from the Hamilton County Auditor's
Office.
There are existing trees on the site; a Tree Preservation plan will most likely be required to detem1ine
which trees must be preserved, per chapter 20G.04.06.E.
Work with Scott Brewer, City Forester, on the landscape plan approval and number ofplantings required.
When the site plan shows "sidewalk by others" or "water by others", please specify who.
Lighting: please provide building lighting fixture details/cut sheets for the building.
Lighting: please verify that fixtures will have 90-degree cut offlflat lenses.
Lighting Plan: please revise the foot-candle lImits along the north property line, per chapter 20G.04.04.F.
Per chapter 20G.04.04.A, show/provide street lighting design per the adopted City style. Contact the
Engineering dep't for the light design specs.
Sign Package: provide the sign color/material for the site.
Signage: provide a chart showmgwhat the sign ordinance requires for each building and the site vs. what
you propose; i.e. location, square footage, etc. (some buildings have more slgnage proposed than is
pennitted and some signs are not facing a road frontage).
16. Signs: please show/label the ground sign locations on the site plan.
\'ft-).?': Show/label the Y2 road right of way on Pennsylvania St.
-l-S'". Please consider using pervious pavers in the parking lot.
W Please consider using 'green' building practices.
O"4:..Jl.) Provide a graphic or chart that shows that buildings front on 70% of the road frontage on Old Meridian,
per Chapter 20G.05.05.B.5.
21. Please provide each building use breakdown ofland use. Per Chapler 20G.05.05.AJ, up to 10% of any
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and uses ofthe building.
BZA use variance approval will be required far a retail use in the OM/O district.
BZA use variance approval will be required far a bank/financial institution use in the OM/O district.
BZA Variance approval may be required for not having two .occupiable fl.oors, per chapter
20G.05.05.B.l.a.
BZA Variance appraval will be required far nat meeting the frant setback, per chapter 20G.05.05.B.2.
BZA Variance approval may be required far nat meeting the minimum building faotprint, per chapter
20G.05.05.B.3.
Per Chapter 20G.05.05.A.2, drive thru facilities should be lacated an the rear of a site, away from the
street.
On Building D, the Sauth elevatian, please provide windaws, per chapter 20G.05.05.C.3.b.
On Building D, the Sauth elevatian, please revise the building elevation to adequately
address/camplement its carner location.
Show/label the on-street parking spaces.
Per chapter 20G.04.05.D, parking spaces should be 9x18 or 1 Ox20, please amend your parking
dimensions.
Along the west property line, please shift the buildings closer to the street or pull the parking areas back
to be in the buildings' side yards.
In additian ta praviding the percent afbullding coverage, provide the percent of pavement caverage.
If yau have any questions or if I may be of assistance, please feel free to call or email me at
aconn@cam1el.in.gov.
Sincerely,
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Angelina Cann
Planning Administrator
File: 07070005DP ADLS-OM ProfesionalVillage.doc
cc: File
Greg Snelling; gsnelling@snellingeng.com
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Wood, Mark A. [MarkWood@SUG.com]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:45 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: RE: July 18 TAC agenda
Panhandle Eastern Pipe Line Company has no conflicts with the items listed on this agenda. Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Friday, July 06/ 2007 1: 11 PM
To: Akers, William P; Blanchard, Jim E; Boone, Rachel M.; Brewer, Scott I; Brook Gajownik; Carter, Ronald E;
Chuck Shupperd; Dale Sparks; David Lucas; Malone, David G.; DeVore, Laura B; Donahue-Wold, Alexia K; Duffy,
John M; Duncan, Gary R; Fogarty, Michael D; Foley, Amanda J; Foster, Jim P; Greg Hayes; Greg Ilko; Hancock,
Ramona B; Hill, Dick B; Hohlt, William G; Hollibaugh, Mike P; Holmes, Christine B; Hoyt, Gary A; Jason Kirkman;
Jason LeMaster; Jennifer Bruner; Jennifer Marlett; Joel Thurman; Keeling, Adrienne M; Klingensmith, David W;
Krueskamp, Theresa A; Larry Castetter; Lillard, Sarah N; Littlejohn, David W; Marilyn Anderson; Wood, Mark A.;
McBride, Mike T; Pace, Paul V; Redden, Nick; Richard Heck; Ron Farrand; Ron Morris; Ryan Hartman;
Schmiesing, Rebecca; Shirley Hunter; Snyder, M Todd; Stewart, Lisa M; Tingley, Connie S; Westermeier, Mark
Cc: Charlie Frankenberger; Kelli Lawrence; jthomas@hearthview.com; Reis, Paul; John Turek; dpellom@civil-
designs.com; dolmstead@stoeppelwerth.com; Dave Coots; Sawbuilder@aol.com; justinmoffett@aol.com
Subject: July 18 TAC agenda
Good morning,
Please see attached agenda for the July 18 Technical Advisory Committee meeting. Let me know if you did not
receive plans for an item.
(Petitioners, please distribute necessary plans to all TAC members (list attached) if you have not already done
so.) If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email me.
Thanks,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p, 317-571-2417 f,317-571-2426
aconn@carmel.in.gov
Private and confidential as detailed here. If you cannot access hyperlink, please e-mail sender.
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To: Angie Conn/Christine Barton-Holmes
DOCS
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
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Project: Old Meridian Professional Village
WE ARE SENDING YOU VIA:
o Mail
o Overnight Delivery
o Courier
X Hand Delivery
The following:
COPIES DATE DESCRIPTION
1 6-27 -07 ADLS/DP Drawings
1 6-27 -07 T AC Correspondence
THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked below:
o For approval
o For your use
X For review and comment 0 As requested
REMARKS:
The enclosed information is submitted for the 7-18-07 TAC meeting in Carmel. Construction Plans will be
submitted at a later date.
From: Gregory S Snelling, PE
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Conn, Angelina V
From: Kurt Dehner [Kurt.Dehner@dbscompanies.com]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11 :22 AM
To: Conn, Angelina V
Subject: RE: meeting on may 10, 1 pm
Angie......thanks for getting back to me. We will see you on the 10th at 1 :00 p.m.
Background Information:
We are buying the Spannan property at the corner of Old Meridian and Pennsylvania, where the new
roundabout is being installed. The site is approximately 8 acres. We plan a series of two-story office
buildings with some retail on the first floor. We will bring the starting of our project drawings for you to
see.
A ttending the meeting with me will be Todd Rieser. Director of Preconstruction Services. for Dublin
Building Systems. our general contractor. Brent Davis, architect with CSO and our civil engineer (can't
remember his nome).
Kurt
J. Kurt Dehner
DBS Companies, Inc.
An Affiliate of DBS Development, A!taBC & Dublin Building Systems
6233 Avery Road
Dublin, OH 43016
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From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Monday, April 3D, 2007 10:05 AM
To: Kurt Dehner
Subject: meeting on may 10, 1 pm
Hi Kurt, Mike will not be able to meet with you, but I will be able to. See you then.
Also, can you tell me some background info on the project, such as location and what you are proposing?
Thanks,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426
aconn@carmel,in.gov
4/3012007