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CONSULTING ENG[NEEES
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Mr. RobertThompson, RLA
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
One Hamilton County Square, Suite 189
,Noblesville, IN 46060
Re: CN ess=Carmel Weston Park
TTY Proj ect No. 2 D07-3 99
Dear Mr, Thompson:
In accordance with your review, we have completed amendments to the SIATPP, ESCP and
Specifications for this project. The following is a summary of the revisions corresponding to your
comment form dated 6126/07:
Section A
1. The legal description for,the,site;Eas been added to Section A3 on Sheet C43.
2. The identification of all receiving waters has been added to Sheet C4.1.
Sections B & C
1. The project S-V?'PPP on Sheet C4.3 addresses the items covered per the standard example sheet
format. The provided written plan addresses the information required buy Rule 5 and the Hamilton
County Surveyor's Office.
2. A copy of the O&M manual for the proposed BRA is enclosed.
3. Item number 4 was added to Self Monitoring Section (C) of the SVV'fTP to address the requested
anneal maintenance and inspection reporting for the BMP.
4. The requirement of scheduling a pre-construction meeting and supplying the N01 prior to earth
disturbance was added to the Construction Sequencing Section (D.2) as the initial activity of
construction.
5. The owner's representative has been listed as the responsible individual at this point in the review
process as yids have not been taken yet and thus the site contractor has not been determined. The
selected contractor will be required to have a qualified individual responsible for the S WPPP
implementation.
6. The additional contact information has been added to the Spill Prevention and Control Section (F)
of the written plan.
7. The required information concerning post construction pollution sources and water quality is
included in the section tilled `_Ma.erials and Wastes" which is Section E of the S WPPP plan.
Additional information addressing the adequate treatment of pollutants to the maximum extent
possible for the specified 13W was added to Section E.4.
8675Pvniue Road 1Lmmapolis,11\ 46268
Phone (317)33 ^^-1500; Fax (317) 334-3552
July 9, 2007
L4 Fitness -Carmel, N
Page 2
8. A recornmended location for the NOT, staging area and sanitary facilities was added to the erosion
and sediment control plan. See notes and revisions on Sheet C4.1 for the detailed information.
9. The requested note regarding phosphorus use was added to the Specifications Section 2, part 2,
"Products" on Sheet C6.5.
Please can me if you have any questions or need additional information.
Sincerely,
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
Mark N. Obergfell, P.E.
AssociateiSite Department Manager
Enclosures: Revised Sheets C4.1, C4.3, C6.5
Stormwater Quality B1VIP Unit O&M Manual
Copy of your comment form
Copy to: Mr. John Turek - LA Fitness
Ms. Angelina Conn - City of Carmel
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Construction/Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan
Technical Review and Comment Form 1
Project Name: LAFitness County: Hamilton
Plan Submittal Date: 0622107 Hydrologic Unit Code: 5 1202 01 1200 80
Project Location Description: T1'estoo Park Block '-4' 106tb &: Michigan Rd
Latitude & Longitude of point of discharge: Provide
Civil Township: Clay Quarter: A Section: 7 Township. 37N Range: 3E
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•a Project Owner Name: LA Fitness
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O Contact: John Tmck
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Cify: ludiana_ae3is- Me Ca/rhJ,-lily State: IN Zip: ?Ila6SS
.o Phone: 416-8322 FAX: Say- 3132- E-NWI:•
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Plan Preparer Name: Mark Obergfell
Affiliation: 'Per Horst Lamson & Fisk
Address: 8675 Purdue Rd
City: 1neianapolis State: IN Zip: 46265
Phone: 334-1500 FAX: 334-15 2 E-Mail: mobergfell(u)tlf-engineers.com
Review Date: 06126/07
3 Principal Plan Reviewer: Robcrt Thompson, RLA
Agency: Haadlton County Slsveyor's Office
x Address: 1 Hamlton Cmmty Sq. #188
_R City: Noblesville State: IN Zip: 46060
Al Phone: 770-8833 FAX: 776-9625 E-Mail: rct@ce.hamiltcu-m.us
Assisted By:
PLAN IS ADEQUATE: A comprehensive plan review has been completed and it has been determined that the
plan satisfies the minimum requirements and intent of 327 IAC 15-5.
L7 Please refer to additional informer oaindud.
ed ou-the folibiving page(s).
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? Submit Notice of Intent (NOI); Attacli'a c6p Wthis cove?:page-when submitting the NOI to the Indiana
Department ofEnvtronmentat ?loan entenr-Cowvuctlon activities m6y_begfn 48 hoursfollowing the submittal of
the NOI. A copy of the NOI must aisabe sent to the HCSO.
? A preliminary plan review has4een completed; a comprehensive review wilt not be completed within the 28-day
review period. There viewiug.authority reserves ihe`rightto°p'erform a comprehensive review at a later date and
revisions to the plao,may-be required at that time`afAartMeficiencies.
? Please refer to additional inforina n Included on ttie f llowing page(s)
?' Submit Notice rif Intent (NOI)lrgc" copy ofthi_FQ 5rpage when submitting the N6l to the Indiana
Department o1Environmental Management.: - Contiimcn.on activities m
begm 48 hoanfollowin& the submittal of
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the NOL A covyofthe NOl must also be seni'ro he HCS0;4_ __ -
PLAN IS DEFICIENT,:=Sigoificant deficiencies were idenMed durmgtbe plan review.'
0 Please refer to additional information muluded on the-followin followingpa e(s) Page 4
DO NOT file a Notice of Iuteni for ltitf pr2jeci: -_.?
I? DO NOT commence land disturbing activities until all defideacies are adequately addressed, the plan re-
submitted, and notification 4asbeebreceived4hat.lhe-minimum requirements have been satisfied.
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?Q Plan Revisions ?? Deficient Items should be wailed of ilelivered to the Principal Plan Reviewer identified
in thePlanReview Section above.
Hamilton Ccunty Surveyor 62612007
Construction7Stormwater Pollutiou Prevention Plan - Technical Review and Comment (Form I)
roject Name: LA Fitnes=_
Date Reviewed: 06/26/07
The technical review and comments are intended to evaluate the completeness ofthe Construction/Stormwater Poilution
Prevention Planfor theproject. The Plan submitted was not retdewedfor the adequacy of the engineering design. All
measurer included in the plan, as well as those recommended in the comments should be evaluated as to theirfeasibiliy
by a qualfied individual with .structural measures designed by a qualified engineer. The Plan has not been reviewed
for other local, state, orfederal permits that may be required to proceed trio this project. Additional information,
including design calculations may be requested to further evaluate the Plan-
Anproposed siormwaterpollution prevention measures and those referenced in this review must meet the design criteria
and standards set forth in the "Indrana 3tormwaler Quality Afanual"from the Indiana Department of Natural
esources, Division of Sall Conservation as well as the Hamilton County Storarwater Design Manual.
lease direct questions and/or comments regarding this plan review to:
Thompson, RLA
[Robert
lease refer to the address and contact Information identified in the Plan Review Section on page 1.
Assessment of Construction Plan Elements (Section A)
The Construction Plan Elements are adequately represented to complete a plan review:
? Yes ? No
The items checked below are deficient and require submittal to meet the requirements of the rule.
A A
-1
Index shooing locations of required Plan Elements
?
2 11 by 17 inch plat showing building lot
iounbers/boundariez and road layout/narnes
3 Narrative describing the nature and purpose of the ? 4 Vicinity map showing project location
project
5 Legal Description of the Project Site ? 6 Location of all lots and proposed site
(Inclede Latitude and Longitude - NOI RequiremeN_)_,-, _ improvements (, JS, un iieq , rtecua, etc)
7 % - ?
Hydrologic unit code ` t
(14 Digit) "` y
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`8
Notation of any State cr. Federal water quality
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`_ _ __
i _ - Permits
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9 Specific points where stcrmv4ater-..discharac will leave -
I0 Location sbd name of all wetlands, lakes and
the site mater courseY ea and adjacent to the site
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Identification of all recei.Ning waters 12 Identifcaioa ojRtential discharges to ground
4'7i :? c1` rv. water (abandoned wdls;?sinkholes, etc.)
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13 ., ! "`7:Ca
100 year floodplalns, floodways, and
fioodway fi"tge5: ="'_
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;4 Pre-con and-post construction estimate of
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, Peak Discharge OQ Year:bmm: event)
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15 ' "t 1
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Adjacent landu;e, including upstream a2tershed t -'
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16
1 Locations and approximate boundaries of all
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- ,:.• ham. r disturbed areas (Cpusnuctiun Limits)
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17 ` '
Identification of exstmg'aegetative cover, i _. r
18 ?at1s map including soil descriptions and
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limitations
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? 19 Locations, size and dinnensions ofpto used storrewater
20 Plans for any off site construction activities
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systems (e.g. pipcs,'svales and channcls?
assod,ated with this?10ject (sewer/water tie-ins)
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21 Locatons of proposed s9il'stockpiles'and/oT --
2
2 I Existing site' top Iograpfiv at an interval appropriate
borrow/disposal " to indicate drAinage:patterns
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23 Proposed final topography at as interval appropriate to
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ndicate drainage patterns - - - - ,
Hamilton Count' Surveyor 6126/2007 2
ComstructionlStormwater Pallution Prevention Plan - Technical Review and Comment (Fonn 1)
ojectName; LAr1utess
ate RcAewed: 06/26107
Assessment of Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan (Sections B & Q
St ormwater Pollution Prevention Plan - Construction Component (Seetion B)
The mnstruarion cnmponent of the Siormwam Pollution Prevention Plan includes srormwarerqualiry
measures to addresserosion, szdimenratlon, and otherpollutants arsnrlafed with land disturbance and
r canstraciicn actndties. Proper implementation ojtheplan and irrspections o''the construction site are
' necessary m minimise the discharge ofpollutants. The Project Site OKner should be aware that
unforeseenc =rucrton activities and weather conditions may affect theperformance ofa practice or the
v ;: effectiveness ofthepfon. The plan must be a fterible document, with provisions to modem or substitute
Q Z 71 practices as necessary.
0 1 Description of potential pollutant sources associated with construction activities
n F-111 a Scqueuce deseribingstormwater quality measure implementation relative to land disturbing
l activities
' 3 Stable construction entrance locations and specifications (at all points of ingress and egress)
rl ? ? 4 Sediment control measures for sheetflow areas
Q ? 5 Sediment control measures for concentrated flow areas
' ? ? 6 Storm sewer inlet prutectii a measure locations and speelfications
- ? ?' 7 Runoff control measures (e.g. diversions= mck'check dams, slope drains, ac')
' ? Q 8 Storm water oudetprotectio spceifications
Q ? Q 9 Grade stabilization structure locations and spec%fications
Q Ie Location, dimensions, specifications, and construction details of each stormwaten quality measure
. Q 11 Temporary surfacestabilizaiton methods appropriate for each season (include sequencing)
? 12 Permanent surface stabilization specifications (inelvde sequencing)
? G 13 Material handling and Spill prevenffDn plan-? - --^ -- --..,
14 Fvlanitoriag and maintenance guidelhtes I[vT_egch propgseO stormwafer quallte measure
Q '? 15 Erosion & sediment con'trol7specfica6onS for individ'oatbmldiag Pis,-
St ormwater Pollution Prevention Plan - Post Construction Component (Section Q
*1 1 T,
The post ^nnstruction component ofthe Sldrrnskalse
rh,Pr?
(Jutian Preventran f.{Gn includes the
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implemenindvnbfstormwalez ualiry measures as dips poli,aarb- that will be'associafed With the
R .- 6 final landtere. Pnst constittcrtgn,stnnnwater gtla(rry mecswres should bef-donat upon compfetlon of
C the project. Lon?termfuncLOnalsiry vflF.e measvte.are critical to their lierformance and should he
a z C
atex-Design Manna forgddance.
monitored and rnainta%ned. See rtte famrlton r4 unnrStormwawr
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? 1 Descripti. of pdlluta¢ts and fheiivspurcea assarra'ted with the
propasedIand use
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I 2 Sequence;due-gibing St ormwaterquality mcasurelmplementation r
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? 3 ?escripfioh o#prnpowd pbst-Eoii tr cpossforpryaler gnallty`rneasnre5'
(1nclude c wiirter 3escription Qjnow them mehsttre 4li reduce discharge of expected pollutartsJ
? ? 4 Location, dimenSio y,_spedficafiuns', and-constru lien details Hof each stormwater quality measure
?1 Q 5 Description of mainteq+bce guidelipes for post ron@trucfio¢ gtormwater quality measures .1 1
Fa itron Loamy $ury?:or 612Gt2007 3
ConstructionlStormwater Pollution Prevention Plan - Technical Review and Comment
Pmject'lame: LA Fitness
Date Reviewed: 06126107
(. T.avmr oPRhee` C4.3 dnec nnf mar} nivr e}anrlard cheer fnrmar Cee www.rn.hamil}nn in. ,vIr, .,o,, and cee
examples of S WPPB sheet layout for technical review (Part A, B and Q. Reviso and re-submit
2. Provide HCSO'a ccpy of the O&M Manual for Post-construction BMW's.
3. Add to Par[ C. Post-Construction BMP :"Owner shall provide copies of ail Wpecton reports and maintenance
activities at least annually."
4. A 6A: under construction sequencing 41 shall read: "Schedule a pre-con with the HCSO priorto any earth disturbing
activity and furnish a copy of the NOP
5. Provide ECSO proof that the trained individuui (Turek) is trained in sediment and F on control activities.
5. To spi1T prevention add contact infofor IDEM and HCSO in case of spills.
7. Missing Section C which' addresses post-consQUCFion water quality-follow standard sheet form at
8. Show location of NOI posing, staging area and port-a-let locetiori on plans.
9. To seedbed and landscape specifications add " Do not use phoshorous (12-12-12 ) containing fertilizer unless soil test
show aplrasphorous de$ciency. Use phosphorous free fertiE zer(12-0-12)
i'heso comments reflect only the SW-PPP and do not address other plan review agmeiea.
Hamilton County surveycr 6126/2011; 4
Construction/Stormwater PollnfionPrevention Plan
Technical Review and Comment Forth 1
Project Name: LA Fmcss County: Hamilton
Plan Submittal Date: 06/22/07 Hydrologic Unit Code: 5120201120080
Project Location Descriptioa: Weston Pazk B[ock'A' 106th. Michigan Rd
Latitude & Longitude of point mf discharge: Provide
q Civil Township: Clay Quarter: MY Section: 7 Township 17ti Raage: 3F
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Project Owner Name: LAFimess
Conmeh John Tcrek
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Address:
1061h artd lviichigan Rd
City: Indianapolis State: II9 Zip:
c Phase: 4164322 FA3i: t-Mail:
Plan Preparer Name: Mar{ Obergfell
Affiliation: Ter Horst Lamson & Fisk
Address: 8675 Purdue Rd
City: Indianapolis State: IN Zip: 46268
Phone: 334-1500 FAX: 334-1557 E-Mail: mobercifellatlf-engineers.com
Review Date: 06/26107
i Principal Plan Reviewer: Robert Thompson, RL.A
Agencv: Hamilton County So[veyar's Office
Address: 1 Hamilton County Sq. #188
City: Poblesville State: IN Zip: 46060
6r Phone: 770-8833 FAX: 776-9628 E-basil: rco'a,3co.hamil[on:in.as
Assisted By:
I PLAN IS ADEQUATE: A comprehensive plan review has been completed and tt has been determined that the
plan satisfies the minimum requirements and intent of 327 FAC 15-5.
[] Please refer to additional information included ou the following page(s).
0 Sabmit Notice of inicnt (NOn: Attach a copy of this rover page;wheh submitting the N'Of:o -hc Indiana
Departme+x cfEnvironmental t{Sanagement, Contraction ecifviries "y begin 48 hoursfollowing the submittal gf
the NOL A copy of the NOl must alno 8e sent ro the HCSO. -
U A preliminary plan review has Deem completed; a comprehensive review will not be completed within the 28-day
review period. The reviewing. authority reserves the r4* td perlorm a comprehensive review at a later date and
revisions to the plan may be required at that time to addre?v..d"eiichmcias. -'-
? Please refer to additional information included am fhe following page(s).
Submit Notice of Intent (NO[): Affi. wh-a, copy 6f this cover puge when submitting rho VOI to the Indiana
Department. of Env[ronmenm! Management. Construction gchvlties, may begin 98 hours following the submit2a! o;
the NOL R copy oftlte NOI must sass 5e sent to Maha HCSO! .
?? PLAN IS DEFICIENT:'^Sieniflrarat deficiencies were identified dening he plan review.
R Please refer to additional information included on die falfowiag page(s). Page 4
?? DO NOT file a Notice of Intent for Ibis project - -
DO NOT commence land disis birig-activities until all dencienciei are adequately addressed, the plan re-
submitted, and notification has,been.received thatthe minimum requirements have been satisfied.
?? Plan Revisions Q Deficient Items sltouldbe mailed oe.delivered to the Principal Plan Reviewer identified
in the Plan Review Section sbove.
11amihon County Surveyor 612612007
Construetioni5tormwawr Pollution Prevention Plan - Technical Review and Comment (Farm I)
Project Name: LA Fitness
?
13aoe Reviewed: 0612&07
1
The technical review and comments are intended to evaluate the completeness of the Corstructicei(normwater Pollution
Prevention Platijor the project. The Plan submitted was not reviewed for the adequacy ofrhe engineering design. Ail
measures included in the plan, as well as those recommended in the comments should be evaluated as to their feasibility
by a qualified individual with structural measures dzsigned !ry a qualified engineer. 7'he Plan has not been reviewed
or other local, state, orjederal permits that maybe required to proceed with this project. Additional information,
including design calculations may be requested to further evaluate the Nun-
Ali proposed stormwater pollution prevention measures and those referenced in -his review rnusr meet the design criteria
and standards set forth in the "Indiana Stormwaeer QualityManual"from the Indiana Department of Naturai
Resources, Division of It Conservation as well as the Hamilton County Stormwater Design Manual.
Please direct questions andfar comments regarding this plan review to-
Robert Thompson, RLA
Please refer to the address and contact information identified in the Plan Review Section on page 1.
Assessment of Construction Plan Elements (Section A)
The Construction Plan Elements are adequately represented to complete a plan review:
21 Yes ? No
The items checked below are deficient and require submittal to meet the requirements of the rule.
A A
7
Index showing locations of required Plan Elements
2
17 inch plat showing building lot
1 1 by
numberslboundaries and road layvWaames
3 Narrative desc. ibing the nature and rmurpose of the
?
d
Vicinity map showing project location
ect
project
5 Legal Description ofthe Project Site ? 6 Location of all tors and proposed site
(Include Latitude and Longitude - NOI liequirement) improvements (roads, utititics, atrvefwe_, etc.)
7
liycrologic unit code (14 Digit)
? -
8
ation of any State or Federal water quakily
Not
'
.
peiii iie
Specific points where stonnwat& discharge will ]cave ? 10 Location and name of all wetlands, lakes mid
9 the site - - water courses. on and adjacent to the site
dl
Identification ofall recetvmg waters Tdentilicatioo of potential discharges to ground
.: water (abandoned wells, sinkholes, etc.)
E3 13 100 year floodplains, ttoadways, and floodway fringes ?? '1i{ Pre-construction andpnst cansttuclion estimate o
vrarstonn evaatl
Peak Discharge (10
?
15
Ad,Taum(lauduse, including upstream watershed
?'
.16 Locanonsand approximate boundanesof all
disturbed areas (Canat.ucuon Lvniis)
?
17
identification of existinE.vretahve cover
18 Sails map including soil dcscriuaons and
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mitations-
i9 LaMions, siu and dimensions ofp onased etormwatcr
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20 Plans £pr any off-site consintctinn activities
systems(e.g. pipes, s.vales anti channedsj - associated witb this project(sewerlwster de-ins)
?
2 Locations afproposed sail sWCkpdes apolor -,
? Existing site' topography at at, interval appropriate
l Lnrrowldispasal areas- 22 to indicate drainage. patterns
Proposed final topography at an:interval appropriate to --
23 indicate drainage patterns "-- - ..
Hamilton County Survefor 6/2612007 2
Constructiou/Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan - Technical Review and Comment (Form 1)
I Proj"t,Vame: LA Fitness
Date Reviewed: 06126107
Assessment of Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan (Sections B & C)
Sto rmwater Pollution Prevention Plan - Construction Component (Seedon B)
The construction component ofthe Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan Includes Stormwater quality
m: sures to address erosion, sedimentation, and other pollutants associated with lard disturbance and
u
a
construction ccliviiies. Proper implementation of the plan and inspections of the construction site are
Q 5? necessaryto minimize the discharge ofpoliarants. The Project Site Owner should be aware that
d c unforeseen construction activities and weather conditions may affect the performance ofa practice or the
u edjectiveness ofthe plan. ne plan must be a flexihle document, with provisions to modify or substitute
Q ? Z R practices as necessary.
? 1 Description of potential pollutant sources associated with construction activities
71 D 2 Sequence describing stormwater quality measure Implementation relative to land disturbing
activities
' 3 Stable construction entrance locations and specifications (at all points of Ingress and egress)
71 ? ? A Sediment control measures for sheet flow areas
? ? S Sediment control measures for concentrated flow areas
i4 ? ? 6 Storm sewer inlet protection measure locations and specifications
? ? E) 7 Runatf control measures (e.g. diversions, rock check dams, slope drains, etc.)
2 ? ? S Storm water outlet protectina specifieatiow
Q ? ? 9 Grade stabilization structure locations and speclreatinns
?J ? 10 Location, dimensions, specifications, and construction details of each stormwater quality measure
? 11 Temporary surface stabilization methods appropriate for each season (include sequencing)
2:1 El 12 Permanent surface stabilization specifications (include sequencing)
'? t3 Material handling and split preveation plan
' ? 14 Monitoring and maintenance guidetiaesfar each proposed stormwater quality measure
? 0 I5 Erosion & sediment coutrol'specifcattons for individual building lots
Sto rmwater Pollution. Prevention Plan - Post Construction Component (SecdOx C)
Prevenium Flan includes the
mplemenradorz of siormwarerquality measures that will be associated with the
maiianduse. Postconstructionstonaxater quality measures shoutd befu?nctional upon completion of
f e project. Long term functionality of the measuresare crifica! [a their performance and should he
onitored and maintained. See
escription of pollutants and their sources associated with the proposed tied use
stormwater, qualitytuacasure iniplementallon
equence'deszrihing
Description of proposer! past coitstruFtloti'stormwaier grialitymeat!ures'
3
(Include a writran descnplton ofhow these measures wit! reduce dischr ge,ofespected pollutants)
L Ll __ ...
q Location, dimensions, speefftcatione, and construction details of each stormwater quality measure
? 6 Description of maintenance guidelines for post constructionsiormwater. quality measures
ffamikon County Surveyor 6126!2007 3
ConstructioniStonunvater Pollution Prevention Plan - Technical Review and Comment
Project Name: LA Fitness
Bate Reviewed: 06626/07
1, Layout of Sheet C43 doesnot meet our standard sheet format. Sec www.co.hamilton in. wcleanwaterand see
examples of SIYPPP sheet layout for technical review ;Part A, B and C). Revise and msubmit
2. Provide HCSO a copy of the O&M Manual far Post-construction BMP's-
3. Add to Pa,-t C, Post-Construction BMP :"Owner shall provide copies of all inspcc4on reports and maintenance
activities at least annually."
4. Add: order construction sequencing Ail shall read: "Schedule a pre-car, withthe IICSO prior to any earth disturbing
activity and fumiah a copy of the NO["
'. Provide HCSO proof that the trained individual J'urek) is trainee in sediment and erosion control activities.
6. To spill prevention add contact Ifo fo: IDEM and ECSO in case of spills.
7. Missing SectionC which addresses past-constrvction water quality-Follow standard sheet format
8. Show location of NO[ posting staging area and porra-let location on plans.
9. To seedbed and landscape specifications add " Do not use phoshorous (12-12-12) comainirng fertilizer unless soil test
show a phosphorous deficiency. Use phosphorous free fertilizer (12-0-12)
These comments reflect only the S W PP? and do not address other plan review agencies.
Hamilton County Surveyor 6!2612007 4
Page Iof I
Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamilton_in. us]
Sent: Friday, July 13,•2007 7:33 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Subject: RE:'SIAIPRS P-L-ATFitness
Need a ful I set of plans
Xpbert Thompson RLA, CLAD
Program Manager
Hamilton County Sun•eyor's Office
I Hamilton Cu. Square, Suite 188
Noblesville, IN 46060
® 517-776-8395, sax: 317-776-9628
f 1l ratVca.hamilton.€n. us
'4?atck overyourwatersfxd -you drinkwhat runs off
?» On 7/12/2007 at 3:32 PM, in message
<383C662F646298438.AA9D6EA8A8C6550195E76@tlfmail.tlf.local>, "Mark Ohergfell" <mebergfe11@11f-
engfnecrs.com> wrote:
Robert-
Attached is an updated SWPPP hopefully conforming to your standard format. Please let me know if you need a hard
.copy mailed. to you or if any other concerns or issues.
Thanks,
Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompson [mailtc:rd@co.hamilton.in.usj
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:07 AM
To., Mark Obergfeil
Subject: 5WPPP LA Fitness
Mark
I received plans that do not follow our standard format I made the comment on the previous review. It may
seem like a minor point but that is what we require for all SWPP plans.
7?pbert q-hompson, RLA, CLAD
Program Manager
Hamilton County Sun•eyor's Oftce
I Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Noblewillc. IV 46060
Q7317-776-8495. fax: 317-776-9628
(D rci]a co.hamllton.in. us
Watch overyourwatersFed- you drink-what ranf off,
994812007
Page i of 1
Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompsonlrot@co.hamilton.in.us]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:51 AM
To: Mark Obergtell
Subject: ?RE?SV,VP_A_ P -!;A:FitrfessYour Section C Post-construction EIMP is not for erosion control and construction activity--only for Pcst-
Construction I31vLP's. I'11is needs revised to reflect how you will address water quality once construction is finished
Rg6ert 27ampson, RLA, CLA4(B
Program Manager
Hamil[uroCouNs Surveyor's Office
1 Hatriltar, Co. Square, Suite 188
Nobtcsville, IN 46060
c'2) 317-776-8445, fax 317-775-9628
ED rct@co-harriltcn.in.us
%wchaveryour waterfied-youdrinkwhatm soff
>>> On 7;12l2007 at 3:32 PVI, in message <B83C662E646298438AA9D6EA8A8C6550195E7 attlfmail.tif.local>;
"Mark Obergfcll" <mobergfelnatlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert-
Artached is an updated SWPPP hopefully conforming to your standard tormat. Please let me know if you need a hard ccpy
mailed to you or it any other concems or issues.
Thanks,
Mark Obergfell
From., Robert Thompson [mail to:rct@ce.ham! Iton.1n.us]
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2007 11:07 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Subject: SWPPP L4 Fitness
Mark
I received plans that do not follow our standard format. I made the comment on the previous review. It may seem
tike a minor point but that is what we require for all SWPP plans.
&bert 2Tiompson, (Rf-,4, CLAD
?rogram Manager
Hamilton County Su ,reyur 5 Office
I Hamilton Cc- Square, Suite 198
Noblesville, IA' 46060
1 317-776-8495, fat: 317-776-9623
i'D rct@cp.hamiltonJn,us
Watch o uyo:rrwal-mfied- you drinkwhat runs off
911 8120 0 7
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Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thomason lrct@cohamilton.in.usl
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:53 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Subject: RE: SUdPPP?
include the 14CSO in spill notification
>>> On 7J12J2007 at 3:32 PM, in message
<B83C662E646298438AA9D6EA8A8C6550195E76@tlfiiail.tlflocal>, "NlarkOhergfell" <nobergfell@llf-
engmeers.com> wrote:
Robert-
Attached is an updated SWPPP hopefully conforming to your standard format- Please let me know if you need a
hard copy malted to you or if any other concerns or issues:
Thanks,
I Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompson [mallto:rct@co.hamilton.in.Lis]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:07 AM
To: Mark obergfell
Subject: SWPPP L4 Fitness
vlark
I received plans that do not follow our standard format. I made the comment on the previous review. It
may seem like a minor point but that is what we require for all SWPP plans.
l g6ert 2Tomp,5x4 iii, CLaPk?b
Program hlanag..er
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Nobiesvilie, IN 46660
317-776-8495,`&x:317-776-9628
Et -r1 co.hamilton.in.us
'Watch overyvur watershed- you rf ink,what raps off
9/ 1 812 0 07
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Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompson [rclQco.harniltonJn.us]
Sent: Friday. July 13, 2007 8:11 Aft
To: Mark Obergfelt
Subject:"RE SS"OPaLfEFitness
add : under sequence #1. Schedule pre-can with HCSO prior to any earth disturbing activity owner shall
provide copy of.NOI at that time
in seed bed specs and landscape specs add: Do not use phosphorous containing fertilizer unless soil test
indicate a phosphorous deficiency, use phosphorous free fertilizer 12-0-12.
Change the term'Erosion Control Plan(s) to S WPPP
add to Section C post-construction BMP #5 Owner shall provide copies of all inspection and maintenance
reports to the KCSO at least annually
use dewatering bag for all dewatering actNities
Robert `£humpson, RL,4, CL qQ
Program Marager
Ha niltoa County Surveyor's Office
I Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Nablesville, 314 46060
Ol 317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
U?I rct6co.hamilton.in.us
Watch over y our warmked - you drink,what rays off
>>> On 7/12/2007 at 3:32 P?A, in message
<B83C662E646298438AA9D6EASA8C6550195E76@tlfmail.tlflocal>, "Mark Obergfell" <mobergfelLa,:tlf--
engineers.com> +NTOte:
Robert-
Attached is an updated 5VVPPP hopefully conforming tc your slandard formal, Please let me know if you need a
hard copy mailed to you or it any other concerns or issuas.
Thanks,
Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompson [mailto:rct@co.hamiltort.in.us].
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:07 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Subject: SWPPP LA ritness
€vlark
9/18/2007
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Mark Obergfoll
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamilton.in.usl
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:38 AM
To: Mark Obergfel!
Su6ject?`R?ES181?LA?Fitness .
make the changes and address Greg's comments then resubmit plans to us
>>> On 711212007 at 3:32 PM, in message
<BS3C662E646298438.AA9D6EA8A8C6550195E76@tlfmail.tlflocal>, "Mark Obergfell" <mobergfell(q,)tlf-
e;
lgmeers,com> wrote.
Robert-
i Attached is an updated SWPPP hopefully conforming to your standard format. Please let me know if you need a
hard copy mailed to you or if any what concerns or issues.
Thanks.
Mark Oberafell
From: Robert Thompson [mailto:rctCco,hamilton.irnusj
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:07 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Subject: SWPPP LA Fitness
Mark
I received plans that do not follow our standard format. I made the comment on the previous review. It
may seem like a minor point but that is what we require for all SWPP plans
1&6en Thompson, qzf--A, CGf'UU
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
I Hamilton Co. Square; Suite 188
Noblesville, IN :6060
(3) 317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
i:TD rct@co.hameton.in us
'Watch overyour watershed- you drink what mns off
9/18/2007
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Mark Obergfell
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamitton.in.usJ
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 B-00 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: John Turek; Angelina V Conn; Greg Hayes
Subject:(RE: $WP2PL9:F,rtness
There was no mention about your structural BMPs (hydrodynamic separators and how they address water
quality in your revised Section C5, Also there is an opportunih' to turn the Saale on the west side info a
bioswale to increase water quality efficiency. Erosion Contro3 Plans are no longer an acceptable term to
describe the requirements for post-construction water quality so MS4's are using the term SWPPP on
documents. What pollutants and BI-P's will be used to treat contaminates from dumpsters? Could use curb
turn outs into the bioswale.
I will await a set of plans for any additional comments.
>>> On 7117,!2007 at 3:41 PM, in message
<B83C662E646298438AA9D6EA8A8C6550196192@tlftnail.tlf.local>, "Mark Obergfell" <mobergfell1@tlf-
engineers.com> wrote:
Robert-
guess I am confused on your expectations. The text we added at the top of the third column, item C6, specifically
addresses and explains what post-construction BMP's are being proposed forth is project, in addition to the structural
storm treatment units, and how each of these measures helps improve water quality. I don't think I am confused on
construction BMP's with post-construclion water quality as we have thoroughly addressed both construction and
post-construction,
Mark N. Oberglell, P.E.
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
ph: 317-334-1500
fax 317.334-1552
From: Robert Thompson [maJtc:rct@co.hamilton.[n.us]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:26 PM
To: Mark Cbergfell
Cc: John Turek; Angelina V Conn; Greg Hayes
Subject: RE: SWPPP LA Fitness
I noticed your section C still fails to address and explain what post-construction BMP s are being used and
how they will address water quality-do not confuse construction LIMPS with Post-Construction Water
Quality BMP's. These comments are also project specific
,RobertTohompson, RLX, CLAW
Program Manager
Hamilton County Survevor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Sa3te 188
Noblesville, IN 46060
317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
CL r t@co hamittcn in us
Watch overyourwatershed- you dnn wFiat runs off
8 /2 712 0 0 7
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Liliard, Sarah N
From: Akers, William P
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:40 PM
To: Campbell, Scott; Daley, Penny J; Duffy, John M, Ellison, Christopher M; Harding, Brent S; Hill, Dick
B. Jason Kirkman; Jennifer Marlett; Kempa. Lisa L; Knott, Bruce; Krueskamp, Theresa A; Lillard,
Sarah N; McCoy, David W; MELONNY WILSON; Poulter, Scott A; Ron Morris; Spears, Jack J
cc: 'Brooke Gajownik'
Subject: New address assigned
An address has been assigned to the future L.A. Fitness building that will be constructed in the Weston Park -
Block A.
The address assigned will be 10574 Workout Way. It is located on the parcel that is on the South West corner of
W 100r1 St and N Michigan Road. There will be two other buildings built in this area as well, they also will have a
Workout Way address to be determined at a later date.
Thanks
Bill Alters
Carmel Communications Center
911 Operations Manager
IDACS Coordinator
Office # 571-2577
Celli 727-8507
Pager# 553-1919
Fax# 571-2585
912 412 0 0 7
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Lillard, Sarah N
From: Lillard, Sarah N
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:19 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P;'grh@co.hamilton.in.us';'rct@co.hamillon.in.us';
'Ryan.harlman@ctrwd.org';'del@cc.hamilton.in.us; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan,
Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; 'rl72J@sbcglobal.net'
Cc: 'rnnuckols@architectsforumllc.com'
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building permit
for the below-mentioned project, PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. After some time, we may
proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all offices have not responded.
Project:'
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Way. Parcel 1D # 1713070018004000.)
Meeting Date: PENDING
Time: PENDING
Related Planning 8, Zoning docket numbers:
07070006 DPIADLS
Again, if there are concerns that might affect the issuance of this permit,
please REPLY TO ALL on this e-mail.
Representative:
Michelle Nuckols
Architects Forum
mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Ph. (317) 842-8500
9/12/2007
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From: Lillard, Sarah N
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:20 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hili, Dick 8; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; 'grh@co.hambton.imus ; 'rct@co.hamilton.in.us';
'Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org; del@co.hamilton.in.us'; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan,
Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; 'rl72if@sbcglobal.net'
Cc: 'mnuckols@architectsfcrumllc.com'
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @a Weston Park Bilk A
Michelle,
The following requests for copies of certain parts of the approved plan come from members of i
our Planning and Zoning office. Verification that copies have been received and stamped as
approved will be required for Submittal for the building permit.
1. Please submit three (3) copies of the approved site plan to Scott Brewer, DOGS, One Civic Square, Carmel,
IN, 46032. You will be notified when your stamped copies are ready for pickup. Contact: Scott Brewer, City
Forester/Environmental Planner. One Civic Square; Carmel. M 46032. Phone: (317) 571-2478. FAX (317) 571-2426
2, Please submit two (2) copies of the. architectural elevation drawings for the structure to Angelina Conn, DOCS,
One Civic Square, Carmel, IN, 46032. You will be notified when your stamped copies are ready for pickup
Contact Angie Conn, Planning Administrator. One Civic Square; Carmel. IN 46032. Phone: (317) 571-2417. FAX (317) 571-2426.1
Also, we tivill need to confirm with Dick Hill of the City Engineer's office ancll'or with John
Duffy of Carmel Utilities if there will be a waterlsewer connection and/or availability permit
due for. this building. If there is, you will need to either pay for this permit ahead of time, or
bring a check to the submittal meeting. %,Vc will need the name of the contractor who will be
doing the excavation of the exterior, lateral connection to the utility line. That contractor must
hold a current bond w-irh the City. Additionally, some of these fees may have to be approved
through the Board of Public Works and Safety. Please contact Dick Hill, at dhill@i carmel-in.gov
or at (317) 571-2441, for more information regarding this issue.
Thaz you,
Sarah
Sttrali. LiICA-r?
Building & Code Services
City of Carmel
Ph. (317) 571-2475
Fax (317) 571-2449
slitlard@L Carmel, in.goy
-----Original Message-----
From: Lillard, Sarah N
9/12/2007
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Lillard, Sarah N
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:21 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N
Cc: 'mnuckols@ arch itectstorumllc.corn'; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William p; 'grh@co.hamillon.in.us'; 'rct@co.hamitton.in.us';
'Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org; del@co.hamilton.imus', Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan,
Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A;'rl72jf@sbcglobal.net'
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Planning/zoning has no outstanding issues.'
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator V'
Dept. of Community ServiCeS - Planning & Zonino
1 Civic Square. 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p. 317-571-2417 D 317-571-2426
acorngr rmel,in gov
From: Lillard, Sarah N
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:19 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer, Scott I;
Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; 'grh@co.hamilton.tn.us'; 'rd@co.hamiltcn.in.us'; 'Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.oi
del@co.hamilton.tn.us ; Foley, Amanda 1; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M;
Mascari, John A;'rl72jf@sbcglobal.net'
Cc: 'mnuckols@ arch itectsforumllc.com'
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building permit
for the below-mentioned project. PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. After some time, we may
proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all offices have not responded.
Project:
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Way. Parcel ID # 1713070018004000.)
Meeting Date: PENDING
Time: PENDING
Related Planning & Zoning docket numbers:
07070006 DPJADLS
Again, if there are concerns that might affect the issuance of this permit,
please REPLY TO ALL on this e-mail.
9112/2007
Page 1 of 2
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson [rct@i;o.hamilton.in.us]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:23 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Foley, Amanda J; Ellison, Christopher M; Hill, Dick B; Littlejohn, David W;
Duncan, Gary R; Blanchard, Jim F; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; Redden, Nick; Brewer, Scott I;
Lillard, Sarah N; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; David Lucas; Greg Hoyes;
Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org; rl72jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Subject: Re: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Our office has not approved the SRYPP and I believe that Greg also has not approved plans yet.
Xo6ert qI ompson, XL,4, CLl"lWfl
Program Manager
Hamilton C'ounly Surveyor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Noblesville, IN 46060
317-776-8495. fax:_17-776-9628
Ct rctflrg. cc.hamilton.in.us
www_co.h am i lion. in. us/cl eanwater
Z?atch oaeryovrwatershed-you drinkwhat runs off
>>> On 9/12/2007 at 3:18 PM, in message
<533BF727978408408313D0378A586D8E30423F825@eserver3.cityofcarnlel.net>, "Lillard, Sarah N"
<SLillard@carmetin.gov> wrote:
The Dept. of Community Service, Building S Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building
permit for the below-mentioned project. PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. After some time, we
may proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all offices have not responded.
Project:
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Way. Parcel ID # 9793070018004000.)
91,1212007
Page I of 2
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Ryan Hartman [Rya n. Hartman @CTRWD.ORG]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:45 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan. Veronica A; Akers, William P; grh@co.hamilton.in.us; ret@co.hami€ton.in us;
del@co.hamiltorr.in.us; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary R; Redden, Nick;
Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; rl72jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park l l A
Sarah;
Plan review is not yet complete. A final plan set with requested changes has yet to be delivered. Thanks!
Ryan C. Hartman
.+:rict :uczneer.
Tl?d a '2 95
Dire et.' 317-844-9200
Fax: 317-844-9203
ryan.ha=tman?cL rwd.orcr
From: Lillard, Sarah N [mailto:SLillard@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:19 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer, Scott f;
Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; grh@co.hamilton,in.us; rct@co.hamilton.in.us; Ryan Hartman;
del@co.hamilton.in.us; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M;
Mascari, Jahn A; rl72jf@sbcglobai.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building permit
for the below-mentioned project. PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, IF YOU. HAVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. After some time, we may
proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all offices have not responded.
Project:
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Way. Parcel ID # 1713070018004000.)
Meeting Date: PENDING
Time: PENDING
Related Planning & Zoning docket numbers-
9!1212007
Page '1 of 2
I
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Ron & Judy Hagan [r172jf@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:58 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; grh@co.hamilton.ln.us, rct@co.hamilton.in.us;
Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org,,de!@co.hamilton.in.us; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan.
Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, Jahn A
Cc: mnuckolsParch itectsforumIlc.com
Subject: Re: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Bilk A
Sarah,
There are no Park and Rec. issues on this project.
Judy Hagan
Original Message -----
From: Lillard, Sarah N
To: Lillard, Sarah N ; Cann Angelina V ; Hill Dick B Ellison Christopher M ; Blanchard, Jim E ; Brewer, Scott
I ; Dolan, Veronica A Akers, William P ; grh@co,hamilton.i n_ us ; rct@ce-hamilton.in.us
Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org ; del co.hamilton,in.us ; Foley Amanda J ; Littlejohn David UV ; Duncan Gary R
Redden Nick ;Duffy -John M ; Nlascari, John A ; rl72jf@sbeglobal,net
Cc: mnuckols(aarchitectsforumllc.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building
permit for the below-mentioned project. PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. After some time, we may
proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all offices have not responded.
Project:
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Way. Parcel ID # 1713070018004000.)
Meeting Date: PENDING
Time: PENDING
Related Planning & Zoning docket numbers:
07070006 DPIADLS
Again, if there are concerns that might affect the issuance of this permit,
please REPLY TO ALL on this e-mail.
Representative:
Michelle Nuckols
9113/2007
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Lillard, Sarah N
From: Duncan, Gary R
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:07 AM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P;'grh@co.hamilton.in.us''rct@co.hamilton.in.us';
'Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'del@co.hamilton.in.us'; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W, Redden,
Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; 'rl72jf@sbcglobal.net'
Cc: 'mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com'
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
I believe this project is out of current Engineering jurisdiction.
Gary R Duncan Jr., P.E.
Assistant City Engineer
City of Carmel
Department of Engineering
One Civic Square
Carmel, Indiana 46032
(317) 571-2441
(317) 571-2439 (fax)
gduncan@carmel.in.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: Lillard, Sarah N
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 15:19
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer, Scott I;
Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; 'grh@co.hamilton.in.us'; 'rct@co.hamilton.in.us'; 'Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org';
'del@co.hamilton.in.us'; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M;
Mascari, John A; 'rl72jf0o-sbcglobal. net'
Cc: 'mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com'
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building permit
for the below-mentioned project. PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING ISSUES. After some time, we may
proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all offices have not responded.
Project:
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Way. Parcel ID # 1713070018004000,)
Meeting Date: PENDING
Time: PENDING
9/13/2007
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From: Duffy, John M
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:19 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: RE LA-Fitness: Carmel Weston Park Plan Review
Mark,
Do you have any additional info on the retail for the LA fitness project? I also need to know what the acreage is to
determine the availability fee. They are in the process of obtaining a building permit so please let me know as
soon as you can. Thanks
J Duffy
571-2451
From: Mark Obergfell [mailto:mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:13 AM
To: Duffy, John M
Cc: Hill, Dick B
Subject: LA Fitness - Carmel Weston Park Plan Review
John-
I have not seen anything yet.
Thanks,
Mark Obergfell
From: Duffy, John M [mailto:JDuffy@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:36 PM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: Hill, Dick B
Subject: RE: LA Fitness - Carmel Weston Park Water Service/Fees
Mark,
The water distribution staff reviews plans on Thursday morning so you should expect a comment letter in a day o
so.
J Duffy
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Obergfell [mailto:mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:01 AM
To: Duffy, John M
Cc: Hill, Dick B; Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: RE: LA Fitness - Carmel Weston Park Water Service/Fees
John-
Thanks for the fee info. We will be working with the people doing the retail development also, so will get
back with you on any refinements on that. In the meantime, any comments on the site utility plan for the
LA Fitness water service? The Carmel Fire Dept has reviewed the plans already.
Thanks
9,' 1 T i2007
Lillard, Sarah N
From: David Lucas [del@co.hamillon.in.us]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:26 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Foley, Amanda J; Ellison, Christopher M; Hill, Dick B; Littlejohn, David W,
Duncan, Gary R; Blanchard, Jim E; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; Redden, Nick; Brewer,
Scott I; Lillard, Sarah N; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; Greg Hoyes; Robert Thomp"son;
Ryan. hartman@ctrwd.org; rl72jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Subject: Re: Pre-Submittal for(tWFi nt ess:Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Eighway has no further comments concerning LA Fitness at this time
Sincerelv,
David E. Lucas
ECHD Staff Engineer/Road
1700 South 10th Street
Noblesville, IN 46060
(317) 773-7770 - Office
(317) 776-9814 - Fax
e-mail: delaco.hamilton.in.us
website: aa.co.hamilton.in.us
>>> "Lillard, Sarah N" <SLillard@carmel.in.gov> 9/12/2007 3:18 PM >>>
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has received a I
request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building permit for the below-
mentioned project. PLEASE "REPLY TO ALL" AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING
ISSUES. After some time, we may proceed with the meeting and submittal, even if all
offices have not responded.
Project:
LA FITNESS CLUB
(10574 Workout Wav. Parcel ID 4 1713070018004000.)
Meeting Date: FENDING
Time: PENDING
Related Planning & Zoning docket numbers:
07070006 DF/ADLS
Again, if there are concerns that might affect the issuance of this permit, please REPLY
TO ALL on this e-mail.
Representative:
1
Mark Oberafell
From: Robert Thompson Irct@co.hamilton.in.us)
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Hoyes, Greg; Mark Obergfell; SLillard@carmel.in.gov
Cc: Nuckols, Michelle; Rexing, Kristy; John Tierney; Turek, John
Subject: RE: ee,SP` u'bm ttal fo-r GCFi nes`s-sCtut,@ Weston Park Blk A
Attachments: Text.htm; ATT27819.jpg; Hamilton County Rule 5 PlanReview Form-LA Fitness-def.pdf
6 io ICJ
Text.htm (27 ATT27819.jpg Hamilton
KB) (1 KB) ity Rule 5 PlanR
i'.a rk
Upon looking at the piaus a little closer it seems that none of my co.mme-:ts were addressed'
in my previo'as review dated 6/26/07. Therefore 1 will respectfully ask you to address
these comments and re-subn_t plans.
T:-,ere shall be no earth distu-biac or clearing activity until plans are approvec and N0I
obtained.
Attached is a copy of t cse conments. Please address the commr.ents listed below as well as
those attached. Resubmit and 1 will continue my review.
Mark
I get the SWPPP this AM--I w'11 be sending you my comments, but FYI the lavcut and content
on sheet C4.3 does not follow cur requ-_red standards. See cur webeite
(www.co.ha:ni iton.in.us/clea-:water) for example on sheet layout and content. Also I do not
see a min. 10 mil liner en the concrete washout detail. I will send you my fora,al review
r_odav c- tomcrroww.
Robert Thompson, RLA, CLARK
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1 hemiltoa Co. Square, S3-te ley
Ncblesville, IN 46060
31t7-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
- rot@co.hamilton.in..;s
www.co.hamilton.in.us/cieanwater
Watch over your watershed - you drink what runs off
>>> On 9/13/2007 at 4:06 ?M, in message <B93C6627-6-06298438AA9D6EA8A6C6550224A.24
@t lfmail.tlf. local>, "Mar:< 0bergfel.1" <mobergfeli@tlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert and Greg-
Revised plans, cutlet request and non-enforcement petition will be delivered to your
office tomorrow. I was waiting on signed forms back and a copy of the warranty deed,
whit`', I received j-ast now. I believe we have addressed all of your comments. The client
1
L[Ilard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamilton.in.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Hoyes, Greg; Obergfell. Mark; Lillard, Sarah N
Cc: Nuckols, Michelle; Rexing, Kristy; Tierney, John; Turek, John
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for'Fitness Club'@}Weston Park Blk A
Text.htm (28 KB) ATT6975535.jpg (1 Hamilton County
KB) Rule 5 PtanRev...
Mark
Upon looking at the plans a little closer it seems that none of my comments were addressed
in my previous review dated 6/26/07. Therefore I will respectfully ask you to address
these comments and re-submit plans. There shall be no earth disturbing or clearing
activity until plans are approved and NOI obtained.
Attached is a copy of those comments. Please address the comments listed below as well as
those attached. Resubmit and i will continue my review. I
Mark
I got the SWPPP this A"•1--I will be sending you my comments, but FYI the layout and con-lent
on sheet C4.3 does not follow our required standards. See our website
(iwrorw.co.hamilton.in.us/cleanvater) for example on sheet layout and content. Also I do rot
see a min. 10 mil liner in the concrete washout detail. I will send you my formal re,.{iew
today or tomorrow.
Robert Thompson, RLA, CLARB
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Soruare, Suite 188
Noblesville, IN 46060
317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
rct_Qco.hamiltcn.in.us
wrww. co.hamilton. in. us/cleanwater
watch over your watershed - you drink what runs off
>>> On 9/13/2007 at 4:06 PM, in message
>>> <B83C662E646298438AA9C63ABA8C6550224A24C?tlfmail.tlf.lccal>, "Mark
>>> Obercfell" <mobergfellatlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert and Greg-
Revised plans, outlet request and non-enforcement petition will be delivered to your
office tomorrow. I was waiting on signed forms back and a copy of the warranty deed,
which I received just now. I believe we have addressed all of your comments. The client
would appreciate a quick turnaround as they would like to pull the building permit with
Lillard, Sarah N I
From: Mark Obergfell [mobergfell@tlf-engineers.comj
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:37 AM
To: Robert Thompson
Cc: Lillard, Sarah N; Hoyes, Greg; Turek, John; Nuckols, Michelle; Rexing, Krisly;
surveyor@co.hamilton.in.us; Conn, Angelina V
Subject: ALA Fitnes Weston Park Blk A - Rule 5 Review Comments
iCSO Rule 5 review
09-19-2007....
Robert-
A copy of our response is attached.
Sincerely,
Mark N. Obergfell, F.E.
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
ph. 317-334-1500
fax 317-334-1552
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Thompson [mailto:rctrc;co.hamilton.in.usl
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Hoyes, Greg; Mark Obergfell; SLillard@carmel.in.gov
cc: Nuckols, Michelle; Rexing, Kristv; John Tierney; "'.trek, John
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Mark
Upon looking at the plans a little closer it seems that none of my comments were addressed
in my previous review dated 6/26/07. Therefore I will respectfully ask you to address
these comments and re-submit plans. There shall be no earth disturbing or clearing
activity until plans are approved and NOI obtained.
Attached is a copy of those comments. Please address the comments listed below as well as
those attached. Resubmit and I will continue my review.
Mark
I got the SWPPP this AM--I will be sending you my comments, but FYI the layout and content
on sheet C4.3 does not follow our reauired standards. See our website
(v,,?-co.hamilton.in.us/cleanwater) for example on sheet layout and content. Also I dolnot
see a min. 10 mil liner in the concrete washout detail. I will send you my formal review
today or tomorrow.
Robert Thompson, RLA, CLARB
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Noblesville, IN 46060
TER HORST, LA6ISON & FISK, INC.
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TLF
Mumma
CONSULTING ENGINEERS
September 19, 2007
Mr. Robert Thompson
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
One Hamilton County Square, Suite 188
Noblesville, W 46060
Re: `LA'Fttness-.Weston Park Block A
Carmel, IN
TLF Project No. 2007-199
Dear Mr. Thompson:
I am in receipt of your two emails dated September 18, 2007. I respectfully disagree with your statements
and assessment of the Rule 5 submittal for subject project. Specifically:
1. We made the initial submittal of this project to your office on 6/22/07 as required by the City of
Carmel TAC/ADLS process.
2. We received your initial response via the Technical Review and Comment Form dated 6/26/07
and responded via a letter to you dated 7/9/07. In that letter, we addressed each of the noted
deficiencies and submitted revised plans and the BMP unit Operations & Maintenance manual.
Based upon the &26107 review, it appeared that almost all of the required elements had been
addressed in our initial submittal as very few missing or deficient items were noted. The items
were for the most part related to very specific things on specific items.
3. On 7/9107, we received an email noting that you had received the plans but the SWPP plan
needed to follow your "standard sheet format", noting "examples" that could be found on your
website.
4. On 7/12/07, we emailed you an updated SWPP plan following the example to make sure we had
addressed all required SWPPP items applicable to this project.
5. On 7113107, in reply to our 7/12/07 transmittal, we received a series of five (5) emails with
additional comments.
6. On 7/17/07, we responded via email to the 7/13/07 comments and specifically addressed all eight
(8) items in response to the latest comments.
7. On 7/17/07 and 7/18/07, we exchanged correspondence regarding specific items related to post-
construction B,MP's. You noted you would "await a set of plans for any additional comments".
8. Subsequent to the last correspondence, I spoke with Mr. Hoves regarding your request that we
turn the west side ditch into a bioswale. Mr. Hoyes indicated that this could not be done as it was
part of the regulated drain. In addition, we were required by your office to pipe and 511 the west
ditch.
9. Upon completion of the site plans and addressing all known comments from city and county
agencies and utilities, we submitted another set of plans to your office on 9114i07. On Sheet
C4.3, specific language was added to address your 7/17 and 7/18 emails.
8675 Purdue Road Indianapolis, Ul 46268
Phone (317) 334-1500; Fax (317) 334-1552
September 19, 2007
LA Fitness - Cannel, I\
Page 2
10. Yesterday, we received two emaiIs with additional comments:
a. See item 2 above which addressed the review dated 6/26/07. We did respond to your
comments.
b. We are not aware of any mandate for a liner on the concrete washout detail; no other
jurisdiction has required a liner and your detail on the example sheet does not have a liner.
However, we have added one at your request. A copy of the revised detail is attached.
c. In regard to sheet format, we note the following from your website: Two (2) examples
(Example A and Example B) of detail sheets that meet the Hamilton County requirements are
available. While these are good examples ofacceptable plan detail sheets that meet
requirements, each project is different and requires a Stormwater Pollution Prevention Plan
that is specific to the project site and conditions. With our plan, we meet or exceed the
following requirements/standards:
i. 327IAC 15-5-6.5 and 15-15-7 regarding the requirements for the Construction Plan and
the specific elements of the plan along with the required index indicating where the
required elements can be found on the plan.
it. Hamilton County Ordinance No. 5-09-05B regarding stormwater runoff.
iii. Hamilton County Draft Stormwater Technical Standards Manual, including the site
inspection and maintenance checklist which is taken directly from the Manual.
Furthermore, as noted on the website, the plan needs to be tailored to the specific site and
conditions. Some of the items noted in the example plan are not applicable to this project so
it did not make any sense to reflect them on the plan, which could confuse the contractor and
potentially make them wonder if any of the plan was applicable. In order to meet the Rule 5
requirements and ensure that all required elements are included (and can be easily located by
the review agency), we included the required S WPPP index. Our plan specifically addresses
all required items with key elements as follows:
SWPPP index
q Project narrative, technical plans, soils types, hydrology etc.
Construction sequence, activities, specific measures
Monitoring guidelines and checklist
N1 Vehicle and equipment maintenance and fueling
4 Solid waste management
4 Spill prevention, control and alert procedures
d Concrete washout
J Dcwatering and pumping
q Post-construction components
tit Monitoring checklist
It appears we have addressed all required items based upon the specific comments we
received through this review process.
d. We understand there can be no land-disturbing activity until we receive acceptance of the
plan and submit the Notice of Intent to IDFM.
It is our professional opinion that the plans meet the Rule 5 requirements for erosion and sediment control
and storm water pollution prevention plans. TLF firmly believes in detailed and thorough submittals; the
plans we submitted for this project are more detailed than what is accepted on a regular basis by other
central Indiana counties. Therefore, we respectfully request your approval so that this project can be
permitted and construction can commence.
September 19, 2007
LA Fitness - Carmel, IN
Page 3
Sincerely,
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
Mark N.Obergfell, P.E.
Associate/Site Department Manager
Enclosures: Revised Detail 3/C4.2
Copies of correspondence
Copy to: Mr. Kenton Ward - Hamilton County Surveyor
Mr. Greg Hoyes - Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
Ms. Sarah L<llard, Ms. Angelina Conn- City of Carmel
Mr. John Turek, Mr. Jon Zaich - LA Fitness
Ms. Kristy Rexing, Ms. Michelle Nuckols - Architects Forum
P:12007110012007-199VAdnrin'Corr pmdencelHCSO Rule 5 n:eim 09.19-2007.dm
GROUND
SURFACE -,A
MIN. 10 MIL LINER
MOUNDS CONSTRUCTED OF
COMPACTED FILL MATERIAL
STONE ACCESS DRIVE
CONSTRUCTED ACCORDING TO
CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE DETAIL
NOTES:
1. PLACE IN CONSPICUOUS LOCATIONS WHERE CONCENTRATED SURFACE
DRAINAGE IS NOT LIKELY TO CONTACT THE WASHOUT AREA
2. CONSTRUCT A CONTINUOUS MOUND NECESSARY TO ENVELOP THE
WASHOUTAREA
3. INCLUDE A SIGN INDICATING THAT THE AREA IS FOR WAS[ IOUT OF
CONCRETE TRUCKS AND PUMPS AND HAND TOOLS
4. PLACE SIGNS AT THE SITE CONSRUCTION ENTRANCES INDICATING
WHERE THE CONCRETE WASHOUT AREAS ARE LOCATED
5. INSTALL A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF WASHOUT AREAS PRIOR TO ANY
CONSTRUCTION WORK REQUIRING DELIVERY OF CONCRETE
MAINTENANCE:
1. WASHOUT AREAS REQUIRE PERIODIC INSPECTION AND REPAIR
2. REPAIR THE STONE ENTRANCE ACCORDING TO MAINTENANCE EFFORTS
DESCRIBED FOR A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE
3. REMOVE DRIED CONCRETE WASTE WHEN THE WASHOUT AREA IS 12
FULL. TREAT DRIED CONCRETE AS SOLID WASTE ACCORDING TO SOLID
WASTE DISPOSALS GUIDLINES
4. AFTER COMPLETION OF CONCRETE OPERATIONS REMOVE TIME WASHOUT
AREA ENTIRELY AND DISPOSE OF WASTE. REGRADE THE AREA AND
PROVIDE SOIL STABILIZATION
CONCRETE WASHOUT AREA
SCALE:NTS ce
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamilton.in.usj
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:53 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: John Turek; Kristy Rexing; Michelle Nuckols; Conn, Angelina V; Lillard, Sarah N; Greg Hoyes;
CoRu ty.Suweyor?
Subject: Pe lA•Fitness---Weston P,_ TarW Blk A - Rule 5 Review Comments
Mark
Make sure the following changes have been made and send me a copy of the SWPPP (not pdf)
and the plans will be approved. Please call if this is not
acceptable.
i. Provide HCSO a copy of the 0&M Manual
BMP's
2. Add to Part C, Post-Construction BMP
reports and maintenance activities at le
annually."
3. Add: under construction sequencing #1
for Post-construction
:"Owner shall provide copies of all inspection
ast
shall read: "Schedule a pre-con with the HCSO
prior to any earth disturbing activity and furnish
a copy of the NOI"
4. To spill prevention add contact info for IDEM and HCSO in case of
sp_lls.
5. Show location of NOI posting, staging area and port-a-let location on
plans.
6. To seedbed and landscape specifications add " Do not use phoshorous
(12-12-12) containing fertilizer unless soil test show a phosphorous
deficiency. Use phosphorous free fertilizer (12-0-12)
Regards
Robert Thompson, P.LA, CLARB
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor*s Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Noblesville, TN 46060
)317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
-rctCco.hamilton.in.us
4ww.co.hamilton.in.us/cleanwater
Watch over your watershed - you drink what runs off
>>> On 9/19/2007 at 9:36 AM, in message
<383C662E646298438PA9D6EA8A8C6550224EO2@ttlfmail
<mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert-
A copv of our response is attached.
Sincerely,
Mark N. obergfell, P.E.
tlf.local>, "Mark Obergfell"
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Lillard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamillon.in.us]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: John Turek; Kristy Rexing; Michelle Nuckols; Conn, Angelina V; Lillard, Sarah N; Greg Hoyes;
County Surveyor
Subject: ReaLA.Fitness Weston Park Blk A - Rule 5 Review Comments
if not all MS4's are requiring concrete washout liners they will be based upon EPA guidelines. (see
attached)
>>> On 9/19.%2007 at 9:36 AM, in message
<1383C662E646298438AA9D6EA8A8C6550224EOB itlfmaiI.tlf.local>,
<mobergfell@.tlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert-
A copy of our response is attached.
Sincerely,
Mark N. Oberefell, P.E.
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
ph. 317-334-1500
fax 317-334-1552
"Mark Ober.-fell"
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Thompson [mailto:rct@co.hamilton.in.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Hoves, Greg; Mark Obergfell; SI-illard@icarmel.in.gov
Cc: Nuckols, Michelle; Rexing, Kristy; John Tierney; Turek, John
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Mark
Upon looking at the plans a little closer it seems that none of my
comments were addressed in my previous review dated 6/26/07. Therefore
I will respectfully ask you to address these comments and re-submit
plans.
There shall be no earth disturbing or clearing activity until plans are
approved and NOI obtained.
Attached is a copy of those comments. Please address the comments
listed below as well as those attached. Resubmit and I will continue my
review.
91/19/2007
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Description
Concrete washouts are used to contain r
concrete and liquids when the chutes of
concrete mixers and hoppers of concrete
pumps are rinsed out after delivery. The
washout facilities consolidate solids for _
easier disposal and prevent runoff of
liquids. The wash water is alkaline and , .
contains high levels of chromium, which _
can leach into the ground and contaminate
groundwater. It can also migrate to a storm f'
drain, which can increase the pH of area An example of a prefabricated
waters and harm aquatic life. Solids that concrete washout container
are improperly disposed of can clog storm drain pipes and cause flooding.
Installing concrete washout facilities not only prevents pollution but also is a
matter of good housekeeping at your construction site.
This fact sheet describes the different types of concrete washout facilities that
can be used at your site and outlines how they should be sited, designed, and
maintained.
Types of Concrete Washout Facilities
Prefabricated washout containers
A growing number of companies offer
sturdy, prefabricated concrete washout
containers that are delivered to the site.
Some services provide the containers
alone without providing maintenance and
disposal of materials, while other
companies offer complete service that
includes delivery of containers and regular
pickups of solid and liquid waste materials.
The prefabricated containers resist damage
example of a self-installed
rcrete washout structure
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and protect well against spills and leaks, and the full-service option relieves the
site superintendent of the burden of disposing of materials. To prevent leaks on
the jobsite, ensure that prefabricated washout containers are watertight.
Additionally, some companies offer prefabricated washout containers with ramps
to accommodate concrete pump trucks.
When selecting a company to handle concrete waste, ensure that they are
properly disposing of all materials, and give preference to companies that recycle
collected materials.
Self-installed concrete washouts
You can also build your own concrete washout facility, although self-installed
structures are much less reliable than prefabricated containers and are prone to
leaks. There are many design options for the washout, but they are preferably
built below-grade to prevent breaches and reduce the likelihood of runoff. Above-
grade structures can also be used if they are sized and constructed correctly and
are diligently maintained. One of the most common problems with self-installed
concrete washout facilities is that they can leak or be breached as a result of
constant use, so you should take care to use quality materials and inspect the
facilities on a daily basis.
You should size your washouts to handle solids, wash water, and rainfall to
prevent overflow. Concrete Washout Systems, Inc., (2006) estimates that 7
gallons of wash water are used to wash one truck chute and 50 gallons are used
to wash out the hopper of a concrete pump truck.
For larger sites, a below-grade washout should be at least 10 feet wide and sized
to contain all liquid and solid waste you expect to generate in between cleanout
periods (CASQA, 2003). Washouts at smaller sites, such as a single-family
residential lot, should be sized to accommodate the expected load and can be
smaller than 10 feet wide. Include a minimum 12-inch freeboard in the sizing
calculations. Line the pit with plastic sheeting of at least 10-mil thickness that has
no holes or tears to prevent leaching of liquids into the ground (CASQA, 2003).
Concrete wash water should never be placed in a pit that is connected to the
storm drain system or that drains to nearby waterways.
At larger sites, build an above-grade washout at least 10 feet wide by 10 feet long
and size it to contain all liquid and solid waste you expect to generate in between
cleanout periods. Washouts at smaller sites can be smaller according to the
expected capacity needed. Include a 4-inch freeboard in the sizing calculations
(CASQA, 2003). You can make the structures from staked straw bales or
sandbags double- or triple-lined with plastic sheeting of at least 10-mil thickness
that has no holes or tears.
Siting
According to CASQA (2003), you should not place concrete washout facilities
within 50 feel of storm drains, open ditches, or waterbodies. You should place
them in a location that allows convenient access for concrete trucks, preferably
near the area where the concrete is being poured. Appropriate gravel or rock
should cover paths to concrete washout facilities if the facilities are located on
undeveloped property. These areas should be far enough away from other
construction traffic to reduce the likelihood of accidental damage and spills. The
number of facilities you install should depend on the expected demand for
storage capacity. On large sites with extensive concrete work, washouts should
be placed in multiple locations for ease of use by concrete truck drivers.
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Operation
Inspection
Check all concrete washout facilities daily to determine if they have been filled to
75 percent capacity, which is when materials need to be removed. Both above-
and below- ground self-installed washouts should be inspected daily to ensure
that plastic linings are intact and sidewalls have not been damaged by
construction activities. Prefabricated washout containers should be inspected
daily as well to ensure the container is not leaking or nearing 75 percent capacity.
Inspectors should also note whether the facilities are being used regularly; if
drivers have washed out their chutes or hoppers in other locations, you may need
to provide more education, install additional signage, or place additional
washouts in more convenient locations.
Material Removal
Concrete washouts are designed to to promote evaporation where feasible.
However, if stored liquids have not evaporated and the washout is nearing
capacity, vacuum and dispose of them in an approved manner - check with the
local sanitary sewer authority to determine if there are special disposal
requirements for concrete wash water. Remove liquids or cover the structures
before predicted rainstorms to prevent overflows. Companies that offer
prefabricated and watertight washout containers generally offer a vacuum service
to remove the liquid material.
You can remove hardened solids whole or you can break them up first depending
on the type of equipment available at your site. You can then reuse the solids
onsite or haul them away for recycling - crushed concrete makes excellent
aggregate for roadbeds and other building applications. Check with your local
recycling agency to identify opportunities for concrete recycling.
When you remove materials from the concrete washout, build a new structure or,
if the previous structure is still intact, inspect the structure for signs of weakening
or damage and make any necessary repairs. Line the structure with new plastic
that is free of holes or tears and replace signage if necessary. It is very important
that new plastic is used after every cleaning because pumps and concrete
removal equipment can damage the existing liner.
Education for Concrete Subcontractors
An important factor that dictates the success of concrete washout facilities is
whether or not concrete truck drivers use concrete washouts. You need to make
them aware of the presence of these facilities. Your site superintendent can
educate concrete subcontractors, post signage indicating the location and
designated use of these areas, and provide careful oversight to inspect for
evidence of improper dumping of concrete waste and wash water. Include
requirements in contracts with concrete delivery companies that drivers must use
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Management Practice Handbook: Construction.
[httpa/www.cabmphandboo_ks_com/Construction.asp exU!gisv krt-rl) Accessed
May 8, 2006.
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Lillard, Sarah N
From: Mark Obergfell (mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:36 AM
To: Robert Thompson
Cc: John Turek; Kristy Rexing; Michelle Nuckols; Conn, Angelina V; Lillard, Sarah N; Greg Hoyes;
County Surveyor
Subject: RE: LA Fitness - Weston Park Bilk A - Rule 5 Review Comments
Robert-
I am in receipt of your emails this morning.
• last email - the revised concrete washout detail was included in the pdf - page 4 (right after the cover letter).
• second email - understood.
• first email - we will deliver a copy of revised Sheet C4.2 with the revised washout detail to your office today
along with copies of C4.1 and C4.3 again. The items noted below were addressed in our previous submittals
in July:
1. Provide HCSO a cop!: of the O&M Manual for Post-construction 3MP's
The O&M manual was transmitted to your office on with our July 9 letter. We will deliver another copy along
with the drawings this afternoon.
2. Add to Part C, Post-Construction BM? :"Owner shall provide copies of
all inspection reports and maintenance activities at least
annually.
Sheet C4.3 Please refer to C. Self Monitoring Program, item 4.
3. Add: under construction sequencing #1 shall read: "Schedule a
pre-con with the HCSO prior to ar_y car--h disturbing activity and furnish
a copy of the VOI"
Sheet C4.3 Please refer to D. Construction Operations, item 2.
4. To spill prevention add contact info for IDEM and HCSO in case of
spills.
Sheet C4.3 Please refer to F. Spill Prevention and Control, item 5.
5. Show location of NOI posting, staging area and port-a-let location on
plans.
Please refer to Sheet C4.1, Keynote 12.
5. To seedbed and landscape specifications add ', Do not use phoshorous
(12-12-12) containing fertilizer unless soil test show a phosphorous
deficiency. Use phosphorous free fertilizer (12-0-12)
Please refer to Sheet C6.5 Soil Preparation Paragraph 2.1 A.
We look forward to your approval upon receipt of the copies this afternoon and we would appreciate notification to
Carmel so they can issue the building permit. Please send your approval letter to me so we can file the NOI.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Mark N. Obergfell, P.E.
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
ph. 317-334-1500
fax 317-334-1552
From: Robert Thompson tmailto:rct?cc.hamilton.in.usl
9!19,%2007
Pa.-e 1 of 6
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamilton.in.us]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:45 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: John Turek; Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: RE: LA Fitness - Weston Park Blk A - Rule 5 Review Comments
Sarah
GreL, still has not approved the plans yet. I will send the approved SWPPP when Greg issues his
approval.
>>> On 9/19%2007 at 10:35 .A 4, in message
<B83C662E646298438AA9D6EA8A8C6550224E400a tlfmail.tlf.local>, "Mark Ober-fell"
<mobergfell atlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert-
am in receipt of your emails this morning.
last email - the revised concrete washout detail was included in the pdf - page 4 (right after the cover
letter).
second email - understood.
first email - we will deliver a copy of revised Sheet C4.2 with the revised washout detail to your office
today along with copies of C4.1 and C4.3 again. The items noted below were addressed in our previous
submittals in July:
1. Provide HCSO a copy of the O&M Manual for Post-construction BMP's
The O&M manual was transmitted to your office on with our July 9 letter. We will deliver another copy
along with the drawings this afternoon.
2. Add to Part C, Post-Construction BMP :"O,.vner shall provide copies of
all inspection reports and maintenance activities at least
annually."
Sheet C4.3 Please refer to C. Self Monitoring Program, item 4.
3. Add: under construction sequencing 41 shall read: "Schedule a
pre-con with the HCSO prior to any earth disturbing activity and furnish
a copy of the NOI"
Sheet C4.3 Please refer to D. Construction Operations, item 2.
4. To spill prevention, add contact info for IDEM and HCSO in case of
spills.
Sheet C4.3 Please refer to F. Spill Prevention and Control, item 5.
S. Show location of NOI posting, staging area and port-a-let location on
plans.
Please refer to Sheet C4.1, Keynote 12.
6. To seedbed and landscape specifications add " Do not use phoshorous
(12-12-12) containing fertilizer unless soil test show a phcsphorous
deficiency. Use phosphorous free fertilizer (12-0-12)
Please refer to Sheet C6.5 Soil Preparation Paragraph 2.1 A.
We look forward to your approval upon receipt of the copies this afternoon and we would appreciate
notification to Carmel so they can issue the building permit. Please send your approval letter to me so we
can file the NOL Thank you.
9 /19/2 00 7
Pave 1 of 5
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson [rct@co.hamilton. in.us]
Sent: Wednesday: September 19, 2007 2:53 PM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: John Turek; Kristy Rexing; Michelle Nuckols; Conn, Angelina V; Lillard, Sarah N; Greg Hoyes;
mfisk@tlf-engineers.com
Subject: Re: LA Fitness - Weston Park Blk A - SWPPP denial
Mark
f just got your SINPPP,
See pages 110-7.8, and 9 of our Stormwater Manual for SWPPP content requirements which your
plans do not follow to the letter--Where is the description of potential pollutant sources associated with
the construction activities?
My suggestion would be to follow the SN PPP guidelines for content and layout. Had comments from
June been followed you would have received approval much earlier.
When Greg has comments resolved I will send you the approval letter
Regards.
Wobert Thompson, L q, CL qgo
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Noblesville, N 46060
0,-317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
tD rct@co.hamilton.in.us
w?cw.co.ham ilton. in.us/cleanwater
'tlfatch overyour watershed- you drinkrvhat runs off
>>> On 9/1912007 at 9:36 AM, in message
<B83C662E646298438AA9D6EASA8C6550224EOB a;tlfrnaiLtif.local>, "Mark Ober-fell"
<mobergfell @tlf-engineers.com> wrote:
Robert-
A copy of our response is attached.
Sincerely;
Mark N. Obergfell, P.E.
9/19i2007
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Lillard, Sarah N
From: Conn, Angelina V
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:28 AM
To: 'Michelle Nuckols'
Cc: 'Mark Obergfell'; Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: la fitness building elevation ready for pick up
Michelle:
One copy of the submitted building elevations is stamped/approved by the planning/zoning dept and ready for
pick up for you, for your records. Just come in and ask one of the secretaries for it. It will be in the PICK UP box..
Thanks,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning
1 Civic Square. 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p. 317-571-2417 f. 317-571-2426
aconn@r mel.in.gov
9/2V2007
Page 1 of 1
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Mark ObergPell [mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:55 AM
To: Conn. Angelina V; Lillard, Sarah N
Cc: Michelle Nuckols
Subject: RE: la fitness building elevation ready for pick up
Angie or Sarah-
Could you give me an update where you think things stand with signoffs by the various agencies? I know you are
still probably waiting on the surveyors office but has John Duffy OK'ed the water and has CTRWD gotten you the
CK? Anyone else still outstanding?
Thanks,
Mark Obergfell
From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:28 AM
To: Michelle Nuckols
Cc: Mark Obergfell; Ill Sarah N
Subject; la fitness building elevation ready for pick up
Michelle:
One copy of the submitted building elevations is stampedlapproved by the planningizoning dept and ready for
pick up for you, for your records Just come in and ask one of the secretaries for it. It will be in the PICK tip box.
Thanks,
Angie Conn, Planning Administrator
Dept. Of Community Services - Planning & 7oninn
1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor
City of Carmel, IN 46032
p. 317-571-2417 If. 317-571-2426
aeonngcarmel,in.gov
9121x2007
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Dolan, Veronica A
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:56 PM
To: Blanchard, Jim E; Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: LA Fitness
Kristy Rexing has requested a pre-submittal meeting for Monday, 9/24 for 9:00 am. Should you need to reach Kristy,fher
number is 842-8500. C
r
Thank you.
Veronica ` ` ??? G c
Pagel of?
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Lillard, Sarah N
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer, I
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; 'grh@co.ham! lton.in.us'; 'rct@co.hamiltonJn.us';
'Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'del@co.hamilton.in.us'; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan,
Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; 'd72jf@sbcglobal.net'
Cc: 'mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com` 'Mark Obergfell'
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
At the present time, I am finding that the following offices still have outstanding issues. Until I hear from
them that their issues are resolved/approved, we are unable to schedule the submittal meeting.
John Duffy of Carmel Utilities requested additional information so that the water fees could be
"l??t• determined. To my knowledge, this has not occurred, and I have not received notification from
Mr. Duffy regarding the total fee amount for water that will be due at submittal.
(I2i (a carmel.in.goClv)
Tn fro ay Township Regional Waste District has not been approved, as far as the
e ?a t email I have from Ryan Hartman. The plan will have to be approved, and you must obtain
1At"ceZa?d bring a copy of your sewer permit to the submittal meeting. (ryan.hartman@ctrwd.or9
,. Issues and plan reviews with Robert Thompson of Soil & Water and Greg Hoyes of the County
Surveyor's office have not yet been resolved. (rct@co.hamilton.in.us and grh@co.hamilton.in.us)
4. Scott Brewer, our environmental planner has not yet indicated that he has signed off/stamped
approved copies of the submitted landscape plan.
Again, once we have these approvals, we will be able to schedule the submittal meeting. I will be
contacting Kristy Rexing that the meeting that was tentatively scheduled for Monday, 9/24/07, at 9:00
PM cannot take place unless all of the above are resolved by that time. If you have any other
questions, please let me know.
Thank you,
Sarah Lillard
SarxA Litlxra
Building & Code Ser%lces
Cii6 of Carmel
Ph. (317) 51-2475
Fax (317) 571-2499
slillard@carmel. in.gov
-----Original Message-----
From: Lillard, Sarah N
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:19 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer,
Scott I; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; 'grh@co.hamilton.in.us'; 'rct@co.hamilton.in.us';
'Ryan. hartman@ctrwd.org'; 'del@co.hamilton.in.us'; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary;
R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; 'rl72jf@sbcglobal.net'
Cc: 'mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com'
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
91/21/2007
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Duffy, John M
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:43 AM
To: Lillard, Sarah N
Cc: mobergfell@tdf-engineers.com; Spearman, Ted A
Subject: FW: LA Fitness - Carmel Weston Park Water Approval
Sarah,
Page 1 of 9
Sorry, I thought I had sent over the following information for LA Fitness. The fees are as follows:
Water Connection Fee $22,559.36
Water Availability Fee $10,241.40
Review Fee $150.00
Total Water Fess $32,950.76
Please let me know if there are questions.
J Duffy
571-2451
From: Mark Obergfell [mailto:mobergfell@df-engineers.com]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:26 AM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Duffy, John M
Cc: John Turek; Michelle Nuckols; Kristy Rexing; John Tierney
Subject: RE: LA Fitness - Carmel Weston Park Water Approval
f, ? ? b5
Sarah-
This is the last email we had from John so it was my assumption that he was OK with everything and had all of
the information he needed. Perhaps you have not received the final fee numbers from him?
Thanks,
Mark N. Obergfell, P.E.
Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.
ph. 317-334-1500
fax 317-334-1552
From: Duffy, John M [mailto:JDuffy@carmel.in.gov]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:05 AM
To: Mark Obergfell
Cc: Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: RE: LA Fitness - Carmel Weston Park Plan Review
Mark,
Thanks for your quick reply and I am fine on the retail question. Thanks
J Duffy
From: Mark Obergfell [mailto:mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com]
9/21/2007
Pagel of?
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Ryan Hartman [Ryan. Hartman @CTRWD.ORG]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:01 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N
Subject: FW: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Sarah,
We currently have no issues with LA Fitness. Thanks!
Ryan C. Hartman
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1071G1 Cc loge AvI., .._ e
Li?iisner?oiis, IId ?6230-?_098
Direct: 317-844-9200
Fax: 317-844-9203
ryan. h artman@c t rtvd. OrGJ
From: Ryan Hartman
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:53 AM
To: 'Lillard, Sarah N'; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer, Scott I;
Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; grh@co.hamilton.in.us; rct@co.hamilton.in.us; del@co.hamilton.in.us; Foley,
Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A;
rl72jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Bilk A
Sarah,
CTRWD has resolved all outstanding issues with LA Fitness and at this time, upon submittal of invoice payment,
a permit can be issued and picked up.
Ryan C. Hartman
Enqine?r
_i=v To,n :n Fe:: a; l G:'a _ istric
10101 Al. .._11ea= i3:-_. ., _r_ A
_ndianaoo l.s, ?N 46200-1 09--
Direct: 317-844-9200
Fax: 317-844-9203
r?an.hartmanectrwd.C2g
From: Lillard, Sarah N (mailto:SLillard@carmel.in.gov)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:19 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N; Conn, Angelina V; Hill, Dick B; Ellison, Christopher M; Blanchard, Jim E; Brewer, Scott I;
Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; grh@co.hamilton.in.us; rct@co.hamilton.in.us; Ryan Hartman;
del@co.hamilton.in.us; Foley, Amanda J; Littlejohn, David W; Duncan, Gary R; Redden, Nick; Duffy, John M;
Mascari, John A; rl72jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com
Subject: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
The Dept. of Community Service, Building & Code Enforcement division, has
received a request to meet for the purpose of submitting to obtain a building permit
9/21/2007
Page I of 4
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Robert Thompson Irct@co.hamilton.in.usj
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 12:11 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Foley, Amanda J; Ellison, Christopher M; Hill, Dick B; Littlejohn, David W;
Duncan, Gary R; Blanchard, Jim E; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; Redden, Nick; Brewer, Scott I;
Lillard, Sarah N; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; David Lucas; Greg Hoyes;
Ryan. hartman@ctnad.org; r172jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: mnuckols@architectsforumllc.com; Mark Obergfell
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for IA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Sarah
I will issue an approval letter for the SWPPP when Greg finishes his approval. There are some
deficiencies in his SWPPP plans but these are more formatting issues. In the future S?VPP plans will
not be reviewed unless they meet the requirements of our Stormwater Standards Manual.
Thanks
Ro6ert Thompson, RLA, CLA ,
Program Manager
Hamilton County Surveyor's Office
1 Hamilton Co. Square, Suite 188
Noblesville. IN 46060
0) 317-776-8495, fax: 317-776-9628
11 rct@co.hamilton.in.us
www xo.hamitton.in.usMeanwater
Watch overyour watershed- you drinkwhat runs off
>>> On 9%2112007 at 10:12 AM, in message
v33EF7279784084083BDOB78A586D8E30423F861@eserver3.cityofcarmel.net>, "Lillard, Sarah N'•'
<SLillard@carmel.in.gov> wrote:
At the present time, I am finding that the following offices still have outstanding issues. Until I hear
from them that their issues are resolved/approved, we are unable to schedule the submittal
meeting.
John Duffy of Carmel Utilities requested additional information so that the water fees could
be determined. To my knowledge, this has not occurred, and I have not received notification
from Mr. Duffy regarding the total fee amount for water that will be due at submittal.
Oduffy@carmel. in.gov)
The plan review fro Clay Township Regional Waste District has not been approved, as far as
the last email I have from Ryan Hartman. The plan will have to be approved, and you must
obtain and bring a copy of your sewer permit to the submittal meeting.
9./24%2007
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Greg Hoyes [grh@co.hamilton.in.usj
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:19 PM
To: Conn, Angelina V; Foley, Amanda J; Ellison, Christopher M; Hill, Dick B; Littlejohn, David W;
Duncan, Gary R; Blanchard, Jim E; Duffy, John M; Mascari, John A; Redden, Nick; Brewer,
Scott I; Lillard, Sarah N; Dolan, Veronica A; Akers, William P; David Lucas; Robert Thompson;
Ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org; rl72jf@sbcglobal.net
Cc: johnrturek@aol.com; krexing@architectsforumlle.com; mnuckols@architectsforumllo.com;
jtierney@tlf-engineers.com; Mark Obergfell
Subject: RE: Pre-Submittal for LA Fitness Club @ Weston Park Blk A
Sarah
While HCSO and the site engineer are still working out some final details, we have nol
problem with the submittal meeting and building permit moving forward on this project,. On
this project, they must still have an on-site pre-construction meeting with us before:thev
can move ar_y dirt and all our issues will be resolved before that point. If you have any
questions, please let me know.
Greg Hoyes
HCSO Plan Rev-ewer
>>> "Lillard, Sarah N" <SLillard@carmel.in.gov> 10:12 AM Friday,
>>> September 21, 2007 >>>
At the present time, I am finding that the following offices still have outstanding
issues. Until I hear from them that their issues are resolved/approved, we are unable to
schedule the submittal meeting.
1. John Duffy of Carmel Utilities requested additional information
so that the water fees could be determined. To my knowledge, this has not occurred, and I
have not received notification from Mr. Duffy regarding the total fee amount for water
that will be due at submittal. (jduffy?-carmel.in.gov <mailto:jduffy@carmel.in.gov> 1
2. The plan review fro Clay Township Regional Waste District has
not been approved, as far as the last email I have from Ryan Hartman. The plan will have
to be approved, and you must obtain and bring a copy of your sewer permit to the submittal
meeting. (ryan.hartman@ctrwd.org
<mailtc:ryan.hartmangctrud.org> )
3. Issues and plan reviews with Robert Thompson of Soil & Water and
Greg Hoyes of the County Surveyor's office have not yet been resolved.
(rct®co.hamilton.in.us <mailto:rct?1co.hamilton.in.us> and grh@co.hamilton.in.us
<mailto:grhoco.hamilton.in.us> 1
4. Scott 3rewer, our environmental planner has not yet indicated
that he has signed off/stamped approved copies of the submitted landscape plan.
Again, once we have these approvals, we will be able to schedule the submittal meeting. I
will be contacting Kristv Rexing that the meeting that was tentatively scheduled for
Monday, 5/24/07, at 9:00 PM cannot take place unless all of the above are resolved by that
time. If you have any other questions, please let me know.
Thank you,
Sarah Lillard
Sarah Lillard
1
Lillard, Sarah N
From: Greg Hoyes [grh@co.hamiltonJn.usj
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:24 PM
To: Lillard, Sarah N
Cc: John Turek; Kristy Rexing; Michelle Nuckols; John Tierney; Mark Obergfell
Subject: Re: FW: LA Fitness approval
Sarah
My approval e-mail goes along with Bob's e-mail at 12:11 today and releases both of our
outstanding issues. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Greg Hoyes
HCSO Plan Reviewer
>>> "Mark Oberufell" <mobergfell@tlf-engineers.com> 2:12 PM Monday,
>>> September 24, 2007 >>>
Greg-
I am under the impression that your approval message to Sarah this afternoon included-
Robert's approval also since you said the HCSO had no problem with the submittal meeting
and building permit_ moving forward. It appears that Sarah is not sure about this. Could
you please confirm to her?
Thanks,
Mark Oberafell
From: John Turek [mailto:johnrturek@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:07 PM
To: Mark Obergfell
Subject: FW: Lk Fitness
John R. :`urek
Director of Development_
LA Fitness International, LLC
13570 Marjac Way
McCordsville, IN 46055
C 317.416.8322
F 317.536.3132
From: Lillard, Sarah N [mailto:SLillardgcarmel.in.gov]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:04 PM