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Mr. Dick Hill
Assistant Director
Depal"tment of Engineering
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmet IN 46032
Re: Old National Bank Landscape plans
Docket #61-02
Dick:
Thank you for your comments regarding our T AC submission. Per
your letter to me dated May 13, 2002, I understand that we lllust file
for a Consent to Encroach Agreement because the current parking lot
and subsequent plantings encroach upon the 116lh Street and Range-
line Road rights of way. I understand we ca1U1ot file for consent until
we have received approval by the Plan Commission and/ or the Board
of Zarling Appeals, both of which we're currently in the process of ob-
taining.
In response to your Project Comments items nos. 10, 11, and 12 we of-
fer the following:
10. Rangeline Road right-of-way lines have been identified, labeled
and dimensioned on all sheets. Please refer to the revised civil
engineering construction document set submitted to you under
separate cover.
11. Our site is a parcel of a larger development. The various legal
descriptions describe the overall parcel as well as the specific
proposed site for Old National Bank.
12. Your assmnption is correct: we will not be changing the exist-
ing storm sewer structures/pipes and we don't anticipate
changing the existing water and sanitary service lines. Please
note however our assumption regarding the water / sanitary is
based on the premise that we're not physically enlarging the in-
terior dimension of the building. The mechanical/plumbing
portion of the project has not been designed and existing condi-
tions have not been identified. Should our engineers determine
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that the existing water / sanitary service is somehow inade-
quate, we will notify your office and discuss the proposed revi-
SIons.
I hope this letter resolves all of your issues. Please contact me if you
should have any further questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
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Alan J. Annstrong
President
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Mr. Scott Brewer .
Urban Forester
City of Carmel
Department of Community Services
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
Re: Old National Bank Landscape plans
Docket #61-02
Scott:
Thank you for your comments regarding our ADLS submission. We
have implemented your suggestions without exception. The correc-
tions appear either in the colored landscape exhibit submitted as part
of the revised ADLS brochure dated May 23, 2002 or in the civil design
construction document set dated May 21,2002.
A 24" x 36" copy of the landscape plan has been delivered to you per
yow'request.
Should you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesi-
tate to call.
J. William White, AlA
Project Manager
A. J. Armsb"ong, me.
C: Barbara Hall- Willey
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Charlie Frankenberger - N & F
Chamber of Comm~rce Building . 320 N. Meridian Street, Sui!c 912 0 Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
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May 19, 2002
FAX MEMORANDUM
TO: Jeffery
Willey Brothers
CC: Mike
Department ofComrnunity Services
FROM: Paul Spranger
Carmel/Clay Plan Commission
SUBJECT: OLD NATIONAL BANK PROJECT/CARMEL
Thank you for the telephone callan Friday and the opportunity to make comments.
Old National has an opportunity to construct a signature building at the high-visibility
southern gateway to the Carmel commercial area. I agree with you, the Old National
logo is so outstanding it should be the focal point of the architectural concept with the
fmal building design and materials selection all complimenting the logo image.
A bank building should communicate the very best perceptions of a bank: Solid,
trustworthy, convenient and friendly. Old National should have a bank image, not
emulate a drive-through pharmacy or fast food structure.
As promised, I have reviewed the submission dated May 14, 2002 for several hours this
weekend and offer comments the following issues for your consideration:
1) The proposed building (prospective view) has two primary visual design elements
that conflict with each other in this application:
a) A curved parapet with primary sign/logo.
b) An elevated, squared-off entrance element without logo identification.
It appears in an effort to preserve the existing entrance location, an unnecessary
visual design conflict resulted.
2) The proposed design loses an opportunity to be visually "friendly" with the
deeply recessed window-plane (1') which will be in shadow most of the day.
Further the colunms give the impression from the street of "bars" or "picket
fence" guarding the shadowy interior of the building. Not as inviting as it could
be.
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An alternative, respectfully submitted for your consideration:
1) Simplify the design to one (1) significant visual design element - the curved
parapet, but enhanced.
2) Move the entrance to the South-East CORNER to integrate the entrance into the
primary visual design element, and most importantly, have the entrance UNDER
the logo. The entrance will be more dramatic and inviting.
3)
The curved parapet material should be brick, with a slight recess for the sign/logo
allowing the Ijght spillage from the back lighting to highlight the edge of slight
recess in the brick face, giving the sign an upscale "embossed look". The brick
should be special ordered to the curve radius giving it a smooth, corporate look.
The up-charge for the curved brick I doubt would exceed $5,000.00 and could be
a consistent "signature" design element for other locations.
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4) The top of the window-line OVER the entrance in the curved parapet should be
raised considerably to add more vertical glass in the eotrance and make it more
inviting. This would also minimize the "bowl haircut" look of an add-on, top-
heavy facade.
5) The window-plane should be integrated with the columns 00 the non-parapet
areas of the building by recessing-back the top :fa<;:ade to the existing window-
plane or building out the windows to be integrated with the columns. The
plantings on the east elevation would also have a better chance of surviving
6) The massing ofthe :fa<;:ade over the top of the columns is out ofproportioo with
the total height ofthe building. The ratio should be closer to 60/40 with columns
60% of the total height and the fal(ade 40% 00 the NON-P ARPET elevations of
the building. The parapet elevation would be the highest vertical element.
7) The materials should be brick, drivit and a complimentary SMOOTH limestone
look through "cast" stone or real limestone in the column bases and trim elements.
NO aluminul11, even tril11, anywhere. It is a BANK not a drive-up pharmacy as
split-face materials and metal trim are now so associated with a pharmacy or fast
food outlets.
8) Regarding the lighting plan, please consider lighting standardslheads more in
keeping with the upcoming Carmel street design in lieu of cobra-heads. Please
also consider QL Induction lamps in lieu of metal halide to cast a more flattering
light on your signature building. Please recess the lights located under the drive-
through awning.
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9) The cornice(s) should be substantial, constructed of drivit and in a color matching
the "limestone" material used in the base.
We look forward to a signature presence of the Old National Bank in Carmel. I am
available to you at any time, including evenings at (317) 507-0190.
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Docket Number Assignment - ADLS Amend; Old National Bank - Carmel Banking Center
Sue Ellen,
Please issue the necessary Docket Number for the Old National Bank - Carmel Banking Center, ADLS
Amend. It will be the following:
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__02 ADLS Amend $350
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Docket No.1Wf-02 ADLS Amend- Old National Bank - Carmel Banking Center
Petitioner seeks an amendment of the Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping & Signage to Remodel and
expand the existing building (W alden Bookstore) into a fi nanei al institution. The site is located at 1430 South
Rangeline Road. The site is zoned B- 3/Business.
Filed by J. William White of A.J. Annstrong, Inc.
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Please note the following:
" This Item appeared will not appear befi e the Technical Advisory Committee.
o This is not a public hearing item a therefore will not require mailed or published notice in the newspaper.
a Ten (10) Informational Pack must be delivered to Plan Commission Secretary Ramona Hancock no later
than noon, . Failure to submit Informational Packets by this time will result
in the tabling of the petition to the Tuesday, June 4, 2002, agenda of the Special Studies Committee.
a This Item will appear on the May 14,2002, agenda of the Special Studies Committee.
Please contact Bill White at 318-917-8465 (Fax: ~ n - ~8&9) with this information.
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