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RE: THE VILLAGES AT PROVIDENCE
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Enclosed'you.willfind~Sign Permir Applicatio~s for varibllS ~igJiS at TheVillages at
'Providence (formerly Arbolis of Carmer) . In' addition,: you will. find an AD LS Amendment
, application plus.filing.fees, and'a Board of Z~ning Appeals Developnient Standards
Variance applicati~n plus filing fees. ' ' '
We ',anticipate being 'placed on theage~da f<?rthe June 18 Plan Cof?-1JIlission meeting, and the
June '24 Board of Zoning. Appeals agenda. If this is not the case, please let me know at.you'[,
earliest convenicmce,' , , .
If you have any cOIf~nents or questions please. feel, free to contad me at your earliest
conve.rii~n,ce at974~ 1234,e'xt. 241.
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Thank you,for your hard work and in bringing this to my attention Adrienne. I will pull the Arbor's ADLS approval and see
what signag~-wasa~pr.oved for that property. Many thanks Dawn
----Original Message-----
From: Keeling, Adrienne M
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:22 AM
To: Lillig, Laurence M
Cc: Pallyn, Dawn E; Dobosiewicz,Jon C
Subject: RE: Arbors of Carmel
Lynnette called yesterday wanting toknow the maximum height and square footage they can have for a new sign at
the Arbors. I told her that I would get back to her with that information. I will tell her (again) that they need an ADLS
amendment.
Lynnette also stated that she has spoken with the Department of Communications, and that they have no problem with
changing the Arbors' name to Providence. Also, she said that she sent a copy ohhe street connection betvveen the
two properties to both Communications and to Jon, and that neither had a problem at the time.
I think I have taken this issue as far as I can. I will let her know that they need an ADLS amendment and refer her to
Planning and Zoning for further permanent sign questions. I will continue to work on the vinyl bag if it is not already
gone.
---..Original Message-----
From: Lillig, Laurence M
Sent: Monday, February 11,20022:43 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M; Pattyn, Dawn E
Subject: RE: Arbors of Carmel
A few things:
1. Has Buckingham had this name change reviewed by the Department of Communications? DOC may
object to these projects sharing a name, since there is no access betvveen them. This might be seen as a
safety/emergency response issue.
2. By virtue of the M-3 zoning, an ADLS Amendment petition will need to be filed for any change in the Sign
Plan for The Arbors.
3. Before they are considered for anything, they're going to have to clean up their existing sign violations.
The long and the short of it is, the vinyl bag must go for the time being.
----Original Message-----
From: Keeling, Adrienne M
Sent: Monday, February 11, 20022:21 PM
To: Pattyn, Dawn E
Cc: Lillig, Laurence M
Subject: Arbors of Carmel
Dawn,
Laurence informed me that there is a banner-type sleeve covering the Arbors Apartments sign along Carmel
Drive. I spoke with Diana Bloomquist at Providence regarding this. Bloomquist stated that the Arbors are
becoming a part of Providence and that this covering will only be temporary. I suggested that they should
apply for a temporary permit for the banners in conjunction with their permanent sign permit application(s).
She was not fully aware of the sign plans, so she will make some calls and then call me back. I just wanted
you to be aware.
Adrienne
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Lynnette called yest~PcPa~ wantinbio know the maximurnheight and square footage they can have for a new sign at the
Arbors. I told.her that I would get back to her with that information. I will tell her (again) that they need an ADLS
amendment.
Lynnette also stated that she has spoken with the Department of Communications, and that they have no problem with
changing the Arbors' name to Providence. Also, she said that she sent a copy of the street connection between the two
properties to both Communications and to Jon, and that neither had a problem atthe time.
I think I have taken this issue as far as I can. I will let her know that they need an ADLS amendment and refer her to
Planning and Zoning for further permanent sign questions. I will continue to work on the vinyl bag if it is not already gone.
----Original Message-----
From: Lillig, Laurence M
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M; Pattyn, Dawn E
Subject: RE: Arbors of Carmel
A few things:
1. Has Buckingham had this name change reviewed by the Department of Communications? DOC may object to
these projects sharing a name, since there is no access between them. This might be seen as a safety/emergency
response issue.
2. By virtue of the M-3 zoning, an ADLS Amendment petition will need to be filed for any change in the Sign Plan for
The Arbors.
3. Before they are considered for anything, they're going to have tb clean up their existing sign violations.
The long and the short of it is, the vinyl bag must go for the time being.
---Original Message---
From: Keeling, Adrienne M
Sent: Monday, February 11, 20022:21 PM
To: Patlyn, Dawn E
Cc: Lillig, Laurence M
Subject: Arbors of Carmel
Dawn,
Laurence informed me that there is a bannerctypesleeve covering the ArborsApartments sign along Carmel
Drive. I spoke with Diana Bloomquist at Providence regarding this. Bloomquist stated that the Arbors are
becoming a part of Providence and that this covering will only be temporary. I suggested that they should apply for
a temporary permit for the banners in conjunction with their permanent sign permit application(s). She was not
fully aware of the sign plans, so she will make some calls and then call me back. I just wanted you to be aware.
Adrienne
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Thanks for your response. I was just researching their zoning and sign requirements while waiting for a return call. If I
don't hear back from them by tomorrow, then I will call them back and inform them of these requirements. She was very
defensive when I called it a banner. I did not make it clear in the original e~mail, but I did suggest that the temporary
permit was only a solution if they could obtain the permits in the next few days,. and not if they are waiting for designs,
drawings, or other approvals that may be required. Conclusion: I will make sure the vinyl bag is removed.
--Original Message-----
From: Lillig, Laurence M
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Keeling, Adrienne M; Pattyn, Dawn E
Subject: RE: Arbors of Carmel
A few things:
1. Has Buckingham had this name change reviewed by the Department of Communications? DOC may object to
these projects sharing a name, since there is no access between them, This might be seen as a safety/emergency
response issue.
2. By virtue of the M~3 zoning, an ADLS Amendment petition will need to be filed for any change in the Sign Plan for
The Arbors,
3. Before they are considered for anything, they're going to have to clean up their existing sign violations.
The long and the short of it is, the vinyl bag must go for the time being.
----Original Message---
From: Keeling, Adrienne M
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:21 PM
To: Pattyn, Dawn E
Cc: Lillig, Laurence M
Subject: Arbors of Carmel
Dawn,
Laurence informed me that there is a banner-type sleeve covering the Arbors Apartments sign along Carmel
Drive. I spoke with Diana Bloomquist at Providence regarding this. Bloomquist stated that the Arbors are
becoming a part of Providence and that this covering will only be temporary. I suggested that they should apply for
a temporary permit for the banners in conjunction with their permanent sign permit application(s). She was not
fully aware of the sign plans, so she will make some calls and then call me back. I just wanted you to be aware.
Adrienne
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Dawn,
Laurence lnfo[m~ me that there is a banner-type sleeve covering the Arbors Apartments sign along Carmel Drive. I
spoke with Diana Bloomquist at Providence regarding this. Bloomquist stated that the Arbors are becoming a part of
Providence and that this covering will only be temporary. I suggested that they should apply for a temporary permit for the
banners in conjunction with their permanent sign permit application(s). She was not fully aware of the sign plans, so she
will make some calls and then call me back. I just wanted you to be aware.
Adrienne