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CRC Meeting;.June 15; 2004
CARMEl.. REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'Meeting, June 15,
2004' .
President,Ed:Burke called the meeting to ordei-,at7'02 p.m. Commission n1etnbeYsRick
Sharp, Bob.BN!reall:andTilTI~arshill \verepresent, constituti'ng a qllolLHn. Also .present
were Mayor Brainard, Les O1ds,_ Karl Ha-as" ShcrryMielke, CounciIQtJo~Griffiths,
GijQriel.GrarH aiidMark Boyce.'
Approvalof,Minutes
/Vir. Sharp moved 'for appl'oval bfthe May 18; 2Q04, minutes .Following,a,second by Mr..
Marshall, the minutes 'wereunani~ously.approvei:l.
[Ron Carter arrived at?: 1'8 p:m, during'the t'oIlo\ying~pre'ief)tati6nJ
Presentation.
,Mr..Olds'remlnoed- the.Commission members that-anhe lasC'meeting-Mr.. Boyce was
gra"nfed a,90 day ':blackout''.periodonParcel #U. liotingit isa~enOlm~us'dH;Ilenge
"design-wise" to build lin;:Mark Boyce thank;ed)he C()mmissi6n fQr'givinghimand
Gabriel Grantthe'time to 100kat,the property: Mr._i3oyce,hasbeen working \vith David.
Oliyer, an archit~ct. from England ivtr. BQyce distributed packets ofinfonnation showing
architectural ideas forthe1property. Theaesign featPreda,two"story colonnade 011 the
four story abQve-grade portion ofille builhing, "PhebuildingwilLpossibly have a three-
stoty wing.6neach en'd; r;arking will'be (mdergro_ynd, entered from the north side.'there
might also'be,an areadf diagonal parkfng:infront o(the'building,separatedftbiTI.Gity
CenterDrivc'bYil'narrow median.
Mr. Boyce,suggestect, moving the location.ofthe pelformingarts building'to a site east-of
theMOllon witli a' plaza on i!s nQrth side betweefI if and City Center Driv~.
Mr.Boyce-sailfhe,wasaniicipatingservice, office or boutique type retail, such as a
financial tnpker, 'be,caiJse qf the parhngrestTaintsfbr true retaiL '''Upper end"
condominiums would be;on life nppefflo,ors_
Mr. Boyce)nortsponse to,a qtlestibl1;. saitl iqlie peIfonl1ing aits c<:;,nterbuilding ",ere not
moved to the'east, his"'hopes wonld notbe dashed,bllLwhataoes happen direttJyacross
to, the:s6ut!1 and ea5ti~ very, very i mpof.tani." He would .not finaJize;any'plans until
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definite,plans were in pi ace forPatceI:#5.; -
The Mohawk j?laza"'site to Hie north Wij,S di,scussed.as well as.the c()rner parceleast.of
Parcel # i 1.
Mayor,Brainard sllggested,thatlVl)lrkBbyce, Bni~e Cordiilgly ana Steve SI\lrtzaJl.be
invited to a meeting.Mr. 010s said' he wouict,pnt t'ogether a,work'session.
Members'were pleased with.Mr.Boyce'scoIicept and.tJ~an~ed him fOI'(:omiil~
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Financial ReDort
Ms, l'y1ielke r~ported)he c.orri.biJl~dtota1fu~d f;lalaili:e'as6f'Ji,lfle I" i,s,,$4';;:iJ 2,231. T6\al
reso urces. avail ab Ie. i s..$ 5,573,205.
Aporoval of Invoices' .
Invoic~s;submiJteli'from theCRC.fund.totaI$196,I 13.02. Discussiowfol1owed about
consttllCtioh costs'for thebuildifig of Molioh Green Dri ve; extension ofVeterafls;Way"
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and parkingsurfa<;es and arepart-of the agreement with Shapiro. Mr. Haas'said these
c6sts can ht) billed to Sll~piroJas tlle)i'are lhClhTed
Mr, Sharp,asked.when we were.,ger.ting out ofthe.retlc<;tingpool expenses. Mayor'
Bniihardsaid the expeJlses,shouldnowJle;bill~d totheCity~ 11r. 01~lsaid.the$p28 will
be withdrawnJrom these.invoiceS.and'resuhmihed.to'the City. He willlet'Mr. ,Eng~lking'
know of the.change.
Mr..Marshall.asked.how'.the expenses.weretrackiogwith,the projected budget. Ms.
Miell<eillid Mr.. aIds s~id they \vere \yjthm thfP[9j~cFons Mr. 019s.Qote~l. rhereare I]iore
surveys and'apprai'sals being done than anticipated. Mr. Sharpsuggested'this'budget
inf6['maiionbepnJyided't9.th~Cqmft1ission on a quarterly basis. Agreed. '
MLMarshallil11ovedJorapproval of,the invoices minus the.SIl28. Following.a second.l)y
Mr. Bllttreilll, tncmotioIlwas unahimo~sly apRrovdL
Electric bills are,being processed.,under Qperating. These-will'bepaid by the City'from
now on.
Ms, Mielke presented two invoices: one from HOJ..1jmbaugh,for $56, 193.00 and',one
frOlll Barnes&'Thornburg for .\;11 ,025':19 to.b~.paid. f(o.m,the BANprQi:eed~': Moved foY
approvat"by r\tIr. Battreall. seconded by,Mr. Sharp, unanimously approved.
UildateoirProDetties.
Parcel #1, no activityaNhis time.
ParceJ#2. ,
Mr. aIdS reporied.rilJ three projeetsare under:way, Fedcol'will st.art framingtheir.phase IT
buildingin,allbthe't'\veek or tw'o. Kbs,ene is proceeding'with'treir project. S6 far they
have sold eight oUhe-first.44 nnits. They have'expressed:concern about the unsightly.
buildings to ttie'south of it hem.
Veterans PlazaconstrLIction is'nnderway in. conjunction with theTestrooms that.are bei ng
1:milt.Compkii91l datefor..rhe iestro6ms i:SSeptem]lei 3D,. ComjIljJsandrunn6rseCllrity
cameras were inclLldect.in the project at an aclditional cost. T.heicameras will need,to be
handled as a separate outside proTect.
AJ] the median cuts'on Third Avenue and City centeriDri ve,haveall.been completed.
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Parcel #4
Design concepts for First liidiima Bank wjIl be:pres~nfed ,to .the high!"r'echelonsometime
in the nexnwo weeks.
Parcel #5'
Noihing to report on ,Goodyeat..
. Mr Olcls is putting together a demolition bid package for Goodyear buiiding
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Mr.Cartcr askedoif-the Commission could do sometliing:abotit,tiie area around Goodyear
because'it) becoming,an;eyesore"Mr. Olds wilr:follow through on this.
Parce1.#6
1VIi': HaaS'received notification from Rylan.dthatalltheii' units [iave lleen.sold. Only one
soldabove,.the base. price. .
Parcel' #7
Mr. Olilsreportei:i'Woolpert Erigineers:has completed thestormwater study'Jor the.site
which includes Parcel #5. T1}eir conc1u~ionis UiafS acrdeeLofcte'tention area will l?e
needed. This translatesto one acre five feet deep.. In their initial. repon they 'arc, proposing
several solutionstobe considered: differenttypes o{.undergrollnd,deiention within the
p'~r'c.els,)offsite.d~t.entio:n m'ea ill an exi~tiiig'we.tlands area C!Jsl estifuate.s.n;mge from
$1,600,000 to $400,000including'PUfchase<of land. Actual design camiot'M decided'lIntil
the'CRC.has,aeceptei:Hinal designs"on Parcels 5 .and 7.
Parcel #8
Mr. Olds reporte<;lJh<<y "fe, v.:orking,qticQl1lp.\etionpfstreetscap"e...hy enctofmorlth.
provision was made for:access.fot the..reterlt grand opening, of a'retail :snop there.. ..
Mr.Thori1a~'s.po~ition istl\at the rent levels'he heeds forreqliU'paceis;in'the..$2Q range.
He'isstl11 foc\lsTng.Oh their retitil to,beamenity type,shops forthe'apartments.
Mr. Carter eXjJressed:cbhcernabout the ATvTt:I afea.retailbeinglease4 so slowly . "Do \ve
need a-realltycheck?';'biscussion followed. Mr..,Olds projected'leasing7rates of'$12"J3
per squarf:f()9tciriParcelj3. He,noted the desirability (if 1l1eJive/work.Utiits
Mr. Carter also l'aised ille questiOn aboutparKing,in..Old Town, DiscussionJollowed.
Mayor..B.rairiar9. and tAr: Qlds,said,parki~g. is b'eing\v6rJ(ed,on and loqked a(from'mapy
different directions. Mr. Olds descfibed different options being considered. Mr. Battreall
suggested having'parking.on the west side only of Rang<< Line.Road,.by moving the
center Jin:e o,\er. .
M.rCatterwasconcerned Shere 'Yasino !~sial!rant y~i on the i'yest side ofth", AMLl
pl'ojett,ontheMonon 'Frail. Brief discussion followed.
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Parce1.#9
Buiiding.shouldbe eoinpleteClby cndoC year: Pos~iblYl11cireparking heeded. Anew
,eonce-pl, reverse anglq:,arking,cmighibe plaeedon Autumn Drive. The <;::hywill have to
park somc;ears lhereso ()lhe{s ,viII understa.od l)1e eoncept.
Pareel #10
Flagstar Bank's eertificateofsubstanlial completion sh9uld be is'~lI_ed next week.
Shapitci'~Jronr:sidew<llk issue needs to be resolved. CSO has,paid.$6800 t()conlractor to
repiaceplastlc;pip'e w,ith conc.retepipe' as reCjuireclWCiyy inspector. Their revised sign
packagehasbeen resubmitted IO.Mr. Olds: Hehas'apprdlied'the,sigris on IkhalJ'oI the;
Commission, and~eilt them Qn,to'Mike Hollibaugh,-in:OOCSwhere'they will be-
reviewed and then,presented,ata-pllblichearing al6ng\vith spme ()th~r'City Cenier;sign
issue's which have beeD overlooked,
Bllildingthree unthe site, . ., ..,
The contraejor.ke.epssaying,they will be;starting;in a,week'. The Harde,board siding
'recently pJacedon.lhe south side of thebapk seems)o iridk.ateifwill be some time yet,
b,efore the center bllildingwill be started,' P(:rhaps'thesiding Was rei] uested b'y Flagstar.
No definite,answeron the start date has' been feceived,;Mr, Sharp said he will:.talk with
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Parcel # 12'
Mr.Haas reported theO!Malia closing isschedulecl.ror,June 29, [Brian MayoJias asked
for pefmi~sioll Cpr-Jhe Fire Dep~rgnenl to l\se the; building for non.destruetive work.Mr.
Oids told [!iem.to cOntact O'Malia's'siiice iris stilI their'prop~fty-rOnee eRe oWlisit,
Mr. Olds will give']lermissionto,the Fire DepartmenUo.use,the building'f6t training,
ParceI.# 13
Mr. Haas,reportecl a counteroffer was sent to !vir. Anclich, Mr.. Haas suggested the G;RC
authorize ~he comrrlencement ,Of c(}lldenination on'thepi'opcrty, So,movecl byMr.
Marshall, Following a second,by Mr,Sharp,themotioll waslinariirhqi.tsly'aiuirovycl,
Mr. Olds'will prepareah RFNor,ParceL#13,Q,\ltlinin}l CRe's desires."wants,and nyeds,
Developers must,eommit:to'builcl fOllr"folsale"'live/workllnits'of approximatelY 3,000
square feet, mininlumrhree,stories;laI1.())1',the balance'of the:pl'OJect the developer can
do a number of c1ifferent:things, witl1 CROhavihg'design-approyalS, The RFP w,iIl'itI5o
p.;fledthe other proposed expansion for the whole Glock.
Mr. Haas: asked.that the completecf'RFP be.brougl1t to the Commiksion Iorreviewand
approvill
Mr Olds also has proposals-for the environmental review'once we,have the clearance,
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Old Business
Old Town Arts Disirict
Mayor Brainard'suggested to Mr. Olds that he go ahead and get the gateways bid to find
out the real cost. Estimated "broad scope" would be $250,000 for the first one, which
includes engineering and other soft costs,
Renovation Grants
Mr. Olds reported two businesses have contacted him about the grants: Ferrin's Fruit
Winery and Ball Cards Unlimited. The Commissioners agreed that Mr. aids only needed
to email information to them because he has already been given authority to distribute the
grants at his discretion.
Veterans' Wav
Cutoffs for off street parking will be part of the later bid package.
New Business
Nightingale property owners (located just south of Rich's Furniture) have met with
Mayor Brainard and expressed an interest in expanding their property and building a
larger three-story building.
Mr. aids has 'gotten two appraisals for the Schenkel property next door south of
Nightingale and the average of those is $825,000.. Mr. aIds has encouraged Nightingale
to contact Mr. Schenkel directly. Mr. ,aids has offered to show Nightingale how the land
layout works as part of the City plan.
Traffic Patterns
Traffic patterns in the City offices area are being studied. Mr. Olds will bring ideas to the
CReand the City.
Citv Offices Expansion
Mr. Sharp asked if any thought had been given to expanding the City offices. Mayor
Brainard explained the up.coming changes and possibilities at this time.
Next Meeting
Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:30 p.m. Executive Session, regular meeting following at 7 p.m.
Adjournment
Mr. Sharp moved for adjournment. Following a second by Mr.. Battreall, the motion was
unanimously approved and the meeting adjourned at 8:23 p.m.
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