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Tuesday, February 1, 2000
DOCS Conference Room
5:30 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes 1/18/2000 Meeting
3. Financial.Report
4. Old Business
5. New Business
A. Approval of Invoices to be paid
B. Resolution No. 1-2000, approving the execution by Carmel Redevelopment
Commission and acceptance of the Project Agreement and the Amendment for the bid
submitted by AMLI Residential Properties, L.P.
C. Resolution No: 2-2000, authorizing (a) the acceptance by Carmel Redevelopment
Commission of the assignment from Davis Homes. LLC, of its right, title, and interest in
the Purchase Agreement; and (b) the acquisition of the G & H Real Estate for the
Purchase Price pursuant to the Purchase Agreement.
D. Resolution No. 3-2000, authorizing (a) the acceptance by Carmel Redevelopment
Commission of the assignment from Davis Homes, LLC, of its right, title and interest in
the Option Agreement: (b) the exercise of the Option; and (c) at such time as adequate
funds are available, the acquisition of the WLB Real Estate for the Purchase Price
pursuant to the Option Agreement.
E. Other New Business
6. Schedule Next Meeting
7. Adjournment
z\redevcomm\2000 February 1 Agenda
CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Meeting, Tuesday, February 1, 2000
Oaths of Office were administered'to the five members of the CRC by Clerk-Treasurer Diana
Cordray prior to the meeting.
The meeting was called to order at 5:40 p.m. by President Rick Roesch. Present were Amy Boldt,
Ron Carter, Susan Westermeier, and John Koven. Also present was Mayor Jim Brainard, Clerk-
Treasurer Diana Cordray, Councilor Wayne Wilson, Judy Hagan, Clay Township Trustee, Joe
Staehler, City of Carmel Director of Administration, Karl Haas, Attorney, from Wallack, Somers
& Haas, and Phyllis Morrissey as staff support.
ADProval of Minutes from January 18, 2000, was tabled until next meeting
Financial Report
Clerk-Treasurer Cordray reported the balance as of today is $1,340,714. Mayor Brainard is
working on cash flow statements and hopes to have those ready for upcoming meetings soon.
Old Business
The invoice presented at the last meeting for $6,322.50 for negotiation of a lease by the City will
be paid by the City, not CRC.
New invoices will be distributed before the next meeting
New Business
Invoices will be presented for payment at next week's meeting.
The next item of New Business is Resolution 1-2000 approving the execution by Carmel
Redevelopment Commission and acceptance of the Project Agreement and the Amendment for
the bid submitted by AMLI Residential Properties, L.P. Mr. Roesch asked Mr. Haas to explain
the resolution to the commission.
Mr. Haas reported we have a copy of the agreement signed by the City and AMLI. This
agreement is in the form approved by the CRC. The delay is because mitigating the wetlands was
more complicated than originally expected. The site plans have now been finalized and reviewed
and approved by CSO. AMLI has thirty-five days before they have to deposit the full purchase
price into escrow. Right now MEM has given an oral sign-off on the approval of wetlands
mitigation. We're still waiting for the written approval. Zoning has to be completed. At that point,
the money can come out of escrow and be available for the CRC.
Ms. Boldt asked what happens if the approval isn't received from IDEM within the thirty-five
days.
Mr. Haas replied that the money then just stays in escrow for a longer period. He does not expect
any further hitches. AMLI has lived up to their commitments.
Mayor Brainard noted the wetlands that will now be retained on site will enhance the project
because there will be more wooded area maintained as you drive west on City Center Drive.
We're touching less than three acres of the existing wetlands which is important in seeking
approval. Because of the off-site mitigation there will be more wetlands in this watershed area
than there was when we started. Mayor Brainard said the total cost of the mitigation will be
between $300,000-400,000.
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/I/2000 (continued)
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Mr. Koven asked if that was a cost that was anticipated when we sold it. Mayor Brainard replied
affirmative but we didn't ]mow how much it would be. Until we chose the plan,.the negotiations
with IDEM couldn't be started.
Mr. Koven asked how this mitigation costs affected the net proceeds. Mayor Brainard replied that
we expected to net $2.8 million and we received $4,000,000 from AMLI so we're ahead. In the
original pro forma we had a general category of almost $1,000,000 which was for landscaping/
wetlands, unexpected things like this which would come up. Mr. Haas said the net will be more
than 1.2 million.
Mr. Koven asked if AMLI ended up getting less land than they originally expected. Mr. Haas
responded affirmative, but the City is offering them more land so they will have enough to do the
full development. Mr. Haas said AMLI is actually going to take title to the wetlands, then we'll
do an offering of an additional four acres in exchange for the wetlands. AMLI will bid and then
end up with the same number of acres they need.
Mr. Roesch asked if there are time limits for the escrow? Mr. Haas said it can stay in escrow for
120 days after their plans are completed.
Mr. Roesch: After March 5 or 6? Mr. Haas said yes, basically.
Ms. Westermeier asked about the rezoning issue for multi-family use.
Mayor Brainard: We're going to ask the Plan Commission to waive their normal process because
we have involved the same City staff with that who serve as staff advisors for the Plan
Commission. The same staff would do the review for the Plan Commission. We suspect they will
waive. I've had some talks with some members of the Plan Commission and I don't think they
have a problem with that; they seem comfortable with it. In the worse case scenario it would be
60-75 days; best case scenario it would be 30 days.
Ms. Westermeier asked if the decision on the wetlands would be forthcoming within the next 30-
60 days, too. Mayor Brainard replied that we have verbal approval from IDEM. We've worked
with the J. K. New Company, who is in the business of securing wetlands for off site mitigation.
They've worked.with the County Parks Department and found some sites within this watershed
which helps keep the costs down for us.
Mr. Koven asked for some clarification on the amendment to the project agreement and if the
exhibits all completed.
Mr. Haas: Exhibit C still needs to be finalized. CSO just hasn't finished that. Those are the
construction plans. I don't think there's any problem with getting it completed. Part of it's the
utility package.
Mayor Brainard' reminded the commission that we have continuing architectural control
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/I/2000 (continued)
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Mr. Haas: CSO is responsible for Exhibit C and Exhibit H. I am responsible for Exhibit M which
is for insurance policy coverages. They've got $2,000,000 coverage in general liability with a
$30,000,000 excess liability and then workers' comp is statutory and standard automobile liability
'
Mr. Roesch asked if those would be complete before the CRC signs the agreement.
Mr. Haas: Exhibit C won't be complete before the agreement is signed. It will still have to be
finalized. I think frankly what needs to be done for C to be finalized is for CSO to take Exhibit C
and where it says "preliminary" and put "final" on it. Then it will be done.
Mr. Roesch: I'm wondering how we can execute the agreements if the amendments aren't all
done.
Mr. Haas: The project amendment contemplates that C is not complete and that it will be
complete.
Ms. Westermeier asked what kind of effect it had if it changed from preliminary to final.
Mr. Haas: I think that it's only a question of final locations; making sure that the utility lines run
in the right place. I don't have any reason to think they don't but CSO needs to confirm, now that
the buildings are in place, that the utilities the city is going to run are all in the right location.
Exhibit C would not have to have been included in the document. There are:other plans that still
have to be finalized.
Discussion followed about the need to have legible copies of documents which are to be executed
earlier so commission members have time to review them. Mr. Koven asked Mr. Haas to explain
the urgency of these documents.
Mr. Haas: It starts the due diligence, the thirty-five day period before they deposit the money
starts the day that this is approved and signed, so it speeds up the selling.
It was.suggested that all members' e-mail could be used to forward documents, so faxes would
not have be used since faxing often reduces the documents and can make them illegible.
Mr. Haas: Unfortunately, sometimes documents are changing up to the time of the meeting, but at
least if we had e-mail we could get them to you.
There being no further questions about Resolution 1-2000, Mr. Carter, moved the Commission
approve the resolution. Ms. Boldt seconded the motion and it was approved unanimously.
Mr. Roesch: The next resolution before us is Resolution 2-2000, the acceptance by the
Commission of the assignment from Davis Homes their interest in the purchase agreement and
acquisition of G & H Real Estate for the purchase price of $450,000.
Mayor Brainard: The appraisers have faxed us their evaluations. One has appraised the property
at $545,700 and the other is $535,000.
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/I12000 (continued)
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Clerk-Treasurer Cordray asked if these' appraisals.should be paid by the CRC. After a brief
discussion it was determined this would be correct, rather than the City paying for them.
Mayor Brainard: We weren't required to get appraisals on these properties but thought it would
be good to have them nonetheless because we're assuming the right to buy from the private
sector. I think it's good to have them on file, especially since they're favorable.
Mr. Haas: As the Mayor starting working on the Old Towne project then Davis Homes became
interested in that project. Brad Davis went out and negotiated this purchase agreement to acquire
the property that's bounded by Main Street on the north, First Street SW on the south, First
Avenue SW on the east and Second Avenue SW on the west, basically the entire city block. He
did that in anticipation of Davis Homes participating in this development project. We agreed with
Davis to see if during a certain period of time he could get the project going on his own, then the
city had the right to step in and he agreed that he would assign this purchase agreement to the
CRC. The period for closing runs out on Monday. The appraisals themselves are good news, but
now they are available for the public review and it is unlikely that if we go past Monday we'll be
able to buy the property for $445,000, since it's now appraised in excess of $500,000. So the
resolution is to accept the assignment and then close on the purchase agreement.
Ms. Boldt: Are we under any obligation to Davis Development to allow them to further
participate in the development?
Mr. Haas: No, once title to the property is transferred to the CRC, then we would have to go
through an offering process. It is still the hope that Davis will make a bid and it will be a
redevelopmentproject with Davis. But there is no obligation on the part of the CRC and no
guarantee.to Davis.
Mayor Brainard: Two weeks ago I met with Cripe Architects, Brad Davis and a gentlemen he's
brought in to do the commercial/retail side of it and Davis will do the apartments up above.
They're working hard on the designs and the pro formas, so I'm encouraged that they will be
bidding.
Mr. Koven asked if there was a particular reason why this agreement was signed off and agreed to
back on August 7, 1999, and we were not made aware of it until a week ago. The Mayor came to
us in October and asked us for permission to go along with this and this was already a done deal
at that point.
Mayor Brainard: This one had to get done first and no earnest money had gone hard, I believe,
until after I came to you on October 13'". Before this could be a deal, we needed to get the other
side of the property under control to the west and that's the negotiation that took a lot longer.
Mr. Koven: I understand that. But this was a "drop dead" deal on August the 7ih irregardless of
acquiring the other property next door. Brad Davis couldn't negotiate out of this contract. There
was a 90 day period, but at 90 days, the buyer deposits an additional $15,000 which was
nonrefundable for any reason. But the thing is we met three weeks ago and there was nothing on
our agenda that tells us we needed to have a closing by February 6 or T".
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/1/2000 (continued)
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Mayor Brainard: But we covered that back in October or November
Mr. Koven: No, we didn't. I'm just trying to figure out why we had to wait till the last minute to
do this. Because if we had known back in August that this was going to close by February 6 s or
something was going to happen...
Mayor.Brainard: We were hoping AMLI would be completed before we had to do this, so we
held off.
Mr. Koven: I don't have a problem with that, but the commission was not made aware of this that
I know of until a week ago.
Mr. Roesch: I think that as we have more projects to deal with, then that's why we need the cash
flow report on an ongoing basis so we have a timeline of what's coming up, where the money's
coming from and how we're going to pay for it. We're talking about a lot of money and because
of that we need to be aware of that.
Mayor Brainard: I'll ask Karl to come up with these on a regular basis, so if we have any
questions about how these agreements are proceeding... I don't necessarily know myself from
day to day.
Mr. Koven: It's not so much knowing how they are proceeding; it's just knowing they even exist.
We were not even aware of the fact that they even existed. I was not aware this purchase
agreement even existed.
Mr. Roesch: Yes, regarding this specific purchase agreement, but in all fairness to everybody I
think we did (and we probably did not get that in the minutes) when we had the unveiling for the
newspapers. We did briefly talk about the acquisition and that Davis was going to be involved.
Mr. Koven: I'm just saying that three weeks ago we had a regularly scheduled meeting and on our
agenda should have been something on our agenda that told us we.needed to close this by
February 6h.
Mr. Roesch: We should have.
Mayor Brainard: I was only here for the last two minutes of that meeting so I'll take the blame for
that.
Mr. Roesch: On.some of the other projects, there is a kind of timeline schedule. That perhaps is
what we should have done on this project. And if we couple that with some projected cash flows I
think we'll have good control and know what's coming.
Ms. Boldt: Which source of funds will be utilized if we approve this purchase? Clerk-Treasurer
Cordray said it would be from the bond issue.
Ms. Westermeier asked if we had a bond payment coming up. Clerk-Treasurer Cordray noted this
payment will come out of the general fund using COIT money, not the bond issue.
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/1/2000 (continued)
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A letter from Neal Steinbart was distributed which, stated that the Redevelopment Commission is
authorized to purchase property in this area. This was in response to a request from the CRC for
an opinion on whether the. City Center bond funds could be used for projects other than City
Center.
The letter of opinion received from Mr. Steinbart °stated the Indiana Code Section 36-7-25-3(a)
provides:
Projects, improvements, or purposes that may be financed by a [redevelopment]
commission in blighted or economic development areas may be financed if the projects,
improvements; or purposes are not located in those areas or the redevelopment district as
lone as the projects improvements or purposes directly serve or benefit those areas
(Emphasis added.)
Mayor Brainard: The thought was that we wanted to try to create a Main Street with ,a center to it
using a series of bond issues, one would be to redo Old Towne. Phase Two is planned, has been
on the books fora couple of years now, which shows the City Center development going all the
way up to Old Towne, with a nice streetscape. Old Towne would be the north anchor and
Merchants Square the southern anchor with the City Center in the middle. The combined effort is
to create that southern anchor, make sure Merchants Square is solid, which it seems to be now,
get the roads in and the corridors so people can come over. It's bigger than just that City Center
area itself, the whole plan works together, getting that connection made.
So I think even though it's not right at the City Center it's certainly within the spirit of serving
that area. And what we're trying to do is redevelop that whole area so we don't have,a blighted
mess right in the middle of our downtown area.
Ms: Cordray: I fully agree with the theory. I just get very concerned. If, in fact, the AMLI
property had closed, the proceeds that we net from that very clearly could be used for whatever
purposes.
Mr. Koven: What happens to a property once we buy it, with regard to real estate taxes? How
does it get off the teal estate tax roles and when does it get off the real estate tax roles?
Mr. Haas: It stays on the real estate tax roles until the next assessment period. It will go off in
March 2000. The 1999 (payable 2000) taxes still have to be.paid.
Mr. Koven: It looks like to me if I read this correctly; we're goingback and reimburse them for
last November's taxes, in addition to the purchase price.. Do we know how much that:is?
Mr. Haas: I don't have that number with me right now. That was part of the negotiation of the
purchase price. But as I look at this further, it probably will be only a partial or maybe no
reimbursement at all because against that tax installment is offset what the City of Carmel pays as
a tenant. The Street Department is leasing part of this property already and paying a portion of
the real estate taxes so it will only be a portion of what comes back.
CRC Meeting Minutes of 211/2000 (continued)
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Ms. Boldt: Since the lease is referred to inhere, we should have a copy for our records
Mr. Roesch: Is it correct that at closing we have to get good and marketable title and does that
cover environmental issues?
Mr. Haas: No, the environmental issues are separate from the title issues. In this contract the
seller is indemnifying the buyer against any liability due to a violation of federal, state or local
law. So if there's an environmental problem that constitutes a violation of federal, state or local
law, then there's an indemnity from the seller.
Councilor Wilson: Just remember in the history of that area when Main Street was redone, they
hit some underground storage tanks right in that area. There used to be a gas station there. Is that
all resolved?
Mr. Haas: Apparently. There are no guarantees
Mayor Brainard, August Max, an environmental, management company, looked at it prior to
closing. We'll have a, final report. If there is something serious we'll know that before the closing.
Ms. Boldt: The property was reviewed then, on an environmental basis? Mayor Brainard said yes.
Mr. Roesch called for a motion to approve Resolution 2-2000. Mr. Carter moved the CRC
approve Resolution 2-2000. Ms. Westermeier seconded. Moved and seconded that we approve
Resolution 2-2000 authorizing our acceptance of the assignment from Davis Homes of its rights
in the acquisition of G & H real estate in Old Towne. Approved unanimously.
Discussion followed about how quickly the property can be cleared. The tenants are all on a
month to month basis. Mayor Brainard noted the present tenants have been told this is being done
so we will have more small businesses in downtown Carmel. So we will try to phase it so no one
is actually kicked out.
Mr. Roesch: The third resolution we have before us is Resolution 3-2000, authorizing (a) the
acceptance by Carmel Redevelopment Commission of the assignment from Davis Homes, LLC,
of its right, title and interest in the Option Agreement; (b) the exercise of the Option; and (c) at
such time as adequate funds are available, the acquisition of the WLB Real Estate for the
Purchase'Price pursuant to the Option Agreement.
Mr. Roesch: What does adequate funds mean? I don't think we want to close it at this point until
we have the AMLI closing and have more funds available.
Mayor Brainard: This would bring us down to about 5300,000. We don't anticipate any major
requests for funding from the CRC until AMLI closes, nothing over $20,000-$30,000.
Mr. Koven: In my opinion we didn't get a very good deal on this one. Mr. Beverage bought it for
$435,000 and we're paying $600,000 in less than a year, irregardless of what an appraisal's going
to show.
CRC Meeting Minutes of 211 /2000 (continued)
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Mayor Brainard: If you combine both appraisals valuations together we're coming out about what
the appraisals will show.
Mr. Roesch: The thing we are doing with a lot of the redevelopment, is upping the ante very
quickly.
Mayor Brainard: When the rezone takes place, we're going to add 50-70% probably overnight to
the value of this. Mr. Carter noted overall property values in the vicinity will just shoot up. Mayor
Brainard said property taxes in the area will certainly increase once these old buildings are
replaced.
Mr. Koven asked if we can tear the buildings down immediately?
Mayor Brainard: All will be torn down, except the large one by the Monon. The reports are mixed
on it, whether to restore it and use.it for something else, such as a restaurant with outside seating
on the Morton. We don't want to be in a position to tell the developer what to do. We'll leave it
up to the architects and developers.
Mayor Brainard: The "drop dead" date on this one is February 28ih. We've already asked for an
extension to no avail.
Mr. Carter: I'd like to see us get this put together. I think we can get moving on this more rapidly
than we can on the Kroger building. As a.commission we've looked at these things and put them
together, but we haven't moved to show the community the fruits,of our labor.
Mr. Roesch: It is more of an eyesore and will have an immediate impact on the surrounding
property.
Mr: Haas: We have to exercise by February 280. Then there's fifteen more days to close. I expect
by March 15`h, even though you won't have the use of the AMLI money at least it would be in
escrow.
Discussion followed about upcoming invoices and the cash flow for the following weeks. Mr.
Roesch stated the commission does not want to get into any more "drop dead" situations. He also
noted everyone will be more comfortable once the cash flow projections are in place.
Mayor Brainard said the next thing which will come up are Goodyear and Kestner closings, but
those are six months our. Demolitions will cost_510,000-$15,000. We have verbal understandings
of what it's going to take them to move. Kestner is about $1.1, rough numbers. That's net after he
buys a $100,000 parcel in City Center. Probably about the same about for Goodyear.
Mr. Koven discussed a motion agreeing.to this, but having a March 8ih "drop dead" date on it.
Not to be closed prior to March 81h.
Mr. Roesch asked if there.was a motion to pass Resolution 3-2000. Mr. Carter so moved. Ms.
Boldt seconded the motion. Mr. Roesch stated, "It's been moved and seconded that we approve
motion 3-2000 authorizing the acceptance by Carmel Redevelopment Commission of the
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/1/2000 (continued)
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assignment from Davis Homes, LLC, of its rights.in the acquisition of the WLB Real Estate:" The
motion was approved with four in favor, one opposed. Mr. Koven declined to approve the motion
without the statement about March 8". Discussion followed. Mr. Carter restated the motion to
include that the acquisition will not be closed prior to March 8h. Mr. Koven seconded. The
motion was approved unanimously.
Ms. Boldt: As a redevelopment commission, do we would have the opportunity to seek financing
for a purchase if we need it outside.a bond issue? Answered affirmatively.
Election of Officers
Moved and seconded that the following will serve as officers for the coming year: Mr. Roesch,
President; Ms. Westermeier, Vice President; and Ms..Boldt, Secretary. Approved.
Old Business
Ms. Boldt: What is the amount needed for the Hazel Dell arbitrage?
Mr. Roesch: Neal Steinbart, the attorney handling that, will be at the next meeting (February 7`h)
and will have that calculated. It is a small amount, probably $5.000 or $6,000.
Mr. Koven: I have one thing I'd like to say. I'm disappointed in the way this meeting came about
and I would hope that in the future that we, as a Commission, don't let this happen to us again,
that we end up with not enough time to prepare, to read, get organized, ask questions, making
critical issues like we had to do tonight. We're spending lots of dollars and 1 just feel very
uncomfortable doing that without the opportunity to read it. Some of this could have been on the
agenda last meeting and some of it could have been on the agenda next meeting and we end up
with a special meeting here because of a failure to plan. I think that I don't want to be part of this
again.
Mr_Roesch: I think we need to send a message to our attorneys and our city departments that we
do need time. These things are complicated. There are multi-issues that are going to come about
and we're all public servants and all willing to do what's necessary to move these things forward,
but we also need not to be pushed where we are in a position where we can make mistakes. We
don't want to make mistakes. I think everybody needs to be cognizant of that. When we're doing
something at the last minute, we do need all the attachments, etc., they need to be gotten to
Phyllis quickly for distribution. E-mail is a good time saver and a means of getting things out. It
would be a lot easier on all of us if we had a chance to look at these things prior.
Discussion followed.
Ms. Boldt asked how many other individual parcels might we be looking at to purchase on Main
Street/City Center.
Mayor Brainard noted an idea on the wish list, the possibility of opening up the Range Line Road
area east of the City Hall complex, Mohawk Place someday. We need some projects completed,
though, before we take on too much more. Only two more properties in the initial City Center,
Phase One.
CRC Meeting Minutes of 2/1/2000 (continued)
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Ms. Boldt: I think it's really great that we're getting some frontage property out of this so the
public knows where we are.
Next Meetinz will be Monday, February 7, 2000. The Public Hearing will be first on the agenda,
then we will go on to regular business.
Adjournment
Mr. Koven moved the meeting be adjourned. Following a second by Mr. Carter, the motion was
approved and the meeting adjourned.