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Wednesday. July 31,2002 11 :24 AM
Hill, Dick B; Dobosiewicz, Jon C; Weese, Kate K
RE: Forest Dale Elementary
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So long as it is a temporary construction drive with a set termination date, I don't see
any need to take them before the BZA. I do, however, think it would be beneficial to get
some feedback re: drainage. I would like to see the plans, too.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hill, Dick B
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:37 AM
To: Dobosiewicz, Jon C; Lillig, Laurence M; Weese, Kate K
Subject: FH: Forest Dale Elementary
Any comments re this issue? At a minimum, we would require a drawing indicating their
plans. The temporary drive would require BPW approval.
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From: Allen Cradler [mailto:acradler@fhai.com]
Sent: Hednesday, July 31, 2002 8:15 AM
To: Hill, Dick B
Subject: Forest Dale Elementary
Dick,
I mentioned in the last email about the delay we encountered on this project due to the
bid results. Hith the delay the sequence of construction has also been affected. We had
hoped to do the paving and dr.ive reconfiguration this summer so we didn't disrupt their
traffic patterns. In looking at wha~ we will and won't be able to do now that the
construction has been delayed the idea of a temporary drive north of the existing north
drive has been discussed. This temporary drive would provide construction access to the
north parking lot and serve as a temporary drive for parent drop-off in the north parking
lot_ We haven't studied this in real detail yet and are not IDO% sure this is a direction
we will take. However, what new processes/submittals would we need to proceed with if the
temporary drive is something that would be beneficial to the project?
Thanks for your help.
.I\llen Cradler
Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc.
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Wednesday, May 08, 2002 5:08 PM
LiJlig, Laurence M
Forest Dale Landscape plans
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Urban Forester, City of Carmel
Department of Community Services
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Carmel, IN 46032
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Forest Dale School: Jeff Bolinger of Fanning/Howey Associates sent me amende.dlp.!ans~showlng a 15' landscape
easement along the south perimeter and answering my other comments today. They are ok by my review.
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9025 North River Road, Suite 200
Indianapolis, IN 46240
RE: Special Use Amendment - Forest Dale Elementary School Landscape Plan
Dear Mr. Bolinger:
This review letter concerns the landscape plan submitted for Forest Dale Elementary
School. My comments are as follows:
1. This site comes under the perimeter buffering requirements found in the Cannel/Clay
Zoning Ordinance Section 26.4. \Vhile acknowledging that the school does have
buffering plantings or preserved trees in place on three sides of the site, the south
perimeter is void of any plant material. It is likely that the parcel to the south could
be developed in the future, so a landscape buffer should be established for the school
at this time along that property line. A landscape easement of at least fifteen feet in
width should be shown on the plat with plant material equal or greater to 5 shade
trees, 5 ornamental trees, and 27 shrubs (or 9 evergreens) per 100 linear feet.
2. Species selection: the Malus culitvar 'Snowdrift' should not be used because of
disease susceptibility. An alternative variety should be chosen from the Indiana
Urban Forest Council's recommended list of crab apples (see enclosed). As shade and
ornamental trees are added to the landscape plan, they should be of different species
in order to foster species diversity.
3. There are no planting notes/specifications on the plans. These need to be added,
including but not limited to, stock must meet 1996 American Association of
Nurserymen's standards, and all stakes and wires must be removed within one year.
4. Graphic planting details: the note on plant placement should be changed to read
"PLACE ROOT FLARE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAt\! EXISTING GRADE. .."
rather than "SOIL BALL." This will prevent planting too deeply when the tree
comes too deep within the soil ball from the nursery.
ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417
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Urban Forester, Department of Community Services
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DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING
March 20, 2002
Mr. Jeff Bolinger, ASLA
Fanningffiowey Associates, Inc.
9025 North River Road, Suite 200
Indianapolis, IN 46240
RE: Project Review #l/Prairie Trace Elementary and Educational Service Center
Dear Mr. Bolinger:
We have reviewed the drawings subl11itted for these projects and offer the following comments:
Prairie Trace Elementarv School-Parking: Expansion
I. Do not see any easements indicated. Does any of the expanded parking areas or the ncw wire fence encroach
upon existing easements?
2. Will the curb inlets change to flat castings?
3. Will the existing light standards remain in place? Are they protected from damage from vehicular traffic in
the parking lots?
4. Please provide a location map.
Educational Sen'ice Center-Pavement Repair
1. The entrance work in the right of way of 13l't Street "ill require the posting of a right of way pemlit and a
righl of way bond (License & Penn it type) in the amolmt of $2,000.00.
2. Identify the drive/street on the north side of l31't Street, across from the entrance. Asswne this is the drive to
the Cannel Fire Station #4?
3. Are you re-installing the drive, accel and dece\lanes as they exist currenUy with the same dimensions?
4. Please show, label and dimension 13l't Street right of way lincs.
5. Please include in indicate pavement striping for the accelfdecellanes on 131'1 Street.
6. Please install a sidewalk or asphalt path in the south right of way of 13l.t Street across the cntire frontage of
the property. This should be coordinated with the Department of Comml.ll1ity Services regarding width and
material.
7. There are storm sewer revisions and additions indicated on the plartS. Please provide assurance that these
revisions/additional runoff will not exceed the capacity of the detention area on the west sidc of the property.
8. Please provide a pavement section for the accelldecel and drive pavement within ilie right of way of 131 sI
Street. Our minimum requirement for l31't Street is 1" #11 HAC. Surface; 5" #9 HAC. Binder and 14"
#53 Compacted Stone Base. This is typical for the subdivision entrances along 131s1 Street.
Towne Meadow Elementarv School-Parkin!! EXDansion
Since this site is currently outside of the City of Cannel corporate limits, we will not provide comments.
If you have questions, contact Kate Weese, Mike McBride or me at 571-2441.
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Department of Engineering
cc: M. Kate Weese, City Engineer
Mike McBride, Assistant City Engineer
Jolm Dobosie\\icz, Department of Communily Services
Laurence Lillig, Department of COllnnunity Services
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r have reviewed the construetioJi plans for the proposed expansion of the elelTIentcu:y
8ch601. The distl!rbed area (}f: this projecta]jpears' to bekss than 5 'acres. If this incorrect,
.additionaldetaDs are needed to'sat~sfy the requirements of Rule 5. 1wotild suggest you
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sequence would indicate when th.e: silt fence and inlet protection shouid l;Je installed and
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Planning Administrator
Board of Zoning Appeals
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, In 46032
Date: March 15, 2002
From: Allen J. Cradler, AlA
Project Manager/Senior Associate
Project: Addition and Renovation to
Forest Dale Elementary School
Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana
Project No. 201100.00
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Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana
Re: Addition and Renovation'to
Forest Dale Elementary School
Carmel CleW Schools
Carmel, Indiana
Project No. 201100.00
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Present:
Rollin E. Farrand, Jr., RA, Director of Facilities and Transportation
The following is a report of our meeting on the above date. If you find anything with
which you disagree, please inform us, in writing, within ten calendar days of receipt.
Laurence Lillig, Department of Community Services, Dick Hill, Department of
Engineering, City of Carmel; Allen J. Cradler, Richard E. Durham, Paul Smith,
Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc,
This meeting was held to review revisions to the Project site plans.
Purpose:
1. Allen Cradler reviewed the entrance drive re-alignment with the roads on the west side of
Lakeshore Drive. The north and middle entrance drives have been aligned with the roads on
the west side of Lakeshore Drive. The south entrance is approximately 150' south of the
middle drive. The three entrances are needed to keep the desired separation of bus and
vehicle traffic.
2, The north drive has been aligned to allow a straight entrance by vehicles coming from the
west. The City of Carmel typically aligns opposing left hand turns at road and drive
intersections. .
3. Acceleration and deceleration lanes have not been shown on the revised site plans.
Lakeshore Drive is wider than typical streets, allowing some space for traffic without blocking
the entire street. Dick Hill will review the acceleration, and deceleration lane requirements
further.
4. The revised entrance drives are consistent with the City of Carmel Project Review notations
and the discussions during the Technical Advisory COfTlrf1ittee meeting.
5. The revised site lighting plans were reviewed showing a plan with a combination of 30' high
and 20' high light poles, and a plan using only 20' high light poles. The plan using the 20'
high light poles would cause an increase of approximately six poles and still not provide
coverage across the parking lots.
6. The plan using the combination of 30' high and 20' high light poles will be acceptable. The
light poles along the north side adjacent to the residential area should be 20' high, The two
light poles at the middle and north entrance drives should also be 20' high.
7. The light levels at the property line to the north must not be greater than 0.1 footcandle.
8. Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc. will confirm previous discussions noting additional water
and sewer fees are not required for this Project.
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~~',> V:,B'6ard for review and approval.
10. J "t~f~ck Durham ~eviewed the storm water plans and an updated plan showing the new and
existing storm wate~ lines.
11. The Project will include removal of small trees and other growth from the detention area
outlets.
12. The north parking lot will be curbed, and storm water directed into existing and new inlets
within the parking area. All new storm sewers will be constructed of reinforced concrete pipe
materials.
13. The City of Carmel needs the final drainage calculations to confirm overall calculations and
capacities of the storm water system. '
14. There is an existing curb inlet adjacent to the re-aligned north drive. If the drive shifts further
south to align opposing left hand turns, the existing storm sewer structure will be within the
entrance drive. This structure could be relocated to the south or turned into a surface inlet.
The relocation to the south wou'ld require the replacement of the storm line under Lakeshore
Drive. This option would not be desirable. Dick Hill will review this' issue further and advise
Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc.
15. A roll curb, or sections of roll curb, should be included along the south side of the south
parking lot to allow easy access to the overflow parking area. Fanning/Howey Associates,
Inc. will confirm the type of curbs along Lakeshore Drive and other portions of the Project.
16. The new work required for the entrance drive alignment will need to be submitted to the
Board of Public Works for curb cut review and approval. Drawings, either 81'2 x 11 Of 11 x 17
should be provided with this submittal. The application should state if one of the entrance
drives will also serve as the construction entrance as planned.
17. Allen Cradler distributed a copy ofthe proposed building wall lighting devices. These lights
should be identified on the overall lighting plan.
18. Contractors performing work in the street's right-of-way will be required to have separate
bgndil)g. The Cjjy of Carmel b;;lS a Iistof Contractors _who have already met the bonding
requirements, and are approved to do work with the rights-of-way.
19. Dick Hill subsequently confirmed the acceleration and deceleration lanes are not required.
Also, the north drive does not need to align the opposing left turns in order to avoid
disturbing the existing curb inlet. '
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Jeff Bolinger, ASLA
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RE: Project Nos. 201097.01, 201112.01, and 200137.01
Dear Mr. Bolinger:
I have received and reviewed the information for the above-mentioned
project numbers.
At the present time, I see nothing in the plans that would hamper law
enforcement efforts.
If we can be of any further assistance to you, please contact us.
Respectfully,
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RE: Prairie Trace Elementary, Towne Meadow Elementary and Carmel/Clay Education 'Center
LETTER OF APPROVAL
The undersigned has reviewed the proposed plans for
Prairie Trace Elementary, Towne Meadow Elementary and Carmel/Clay Education Center
and has approved the plans subject to the following:
1. After review of these projects, I have no further conditions or comments at this time.
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Please respond to the above noted condition(s) in writing and submit to our office prior to the
scheduled Technical Advisory Meeting for this project.
Date: March 11, 2002
By: Gary Hoyt, Fire Marshal
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Re: AddItion and Renovation to
Forest Dale Elementary School
Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, IndiaFl~
Project . 201100.00
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Planning & Zoning Administrator
Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN 46032
Dear Laurence:
Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc. has reviewed your comments on the plans recently submitted for
the work planned at Forest Dale Elementary School for Carmel Clay Schools, We wanted to
respond in writing on several items prior to the Technical Advisory Committee meeting.
1. The intent of the pavement and curb replacement was to not leave any old pavement that
would cause additional maintenance for the School in the near future. The reconstruction of
the curbs also allows for the incorporation of required accessible ramps along the sidewalk.
The re-alignment of the entrance drives and streets was never mentioned as a concern in
the preliminary meetings we had with the Department of Community Services. We would
like to discuss this issue further during the Technical Advisory Committee meeting.
2. The unlabeled sign shown south of the north access drive should be identified with Keynote
No. 22, as you indicate.
3.
Parking information:
Number of classrooms:
Number of staff:
Total:
35 x 2 spaces per classroom
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4. The plans will be adjusted to include curbs at all parking lot areas.
5. The existing wall-mounted institutional sign will be removed. Only the one proposed
institutional ground sign included on Drawing Sheet G4.1 is being proposed for this Project.
6. The street address numbers will be included in the school identification sign.
7. The colored elevations of the signs will be included in the Board packets.
8. Please review the attached information regarding the site lighting.
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We have included both 20' and 30' high poles for the site lighting. The 30' high poles match the
existing site lighting, but slightly exceed the principal building height. The use of smaller poles would
greatly increase the cost of site lighting for the Project. We would like to continue the use of the 30'
poles, except along the north property line and adjacent to the building.
We appreciate your comments and assistance on completing the information required for the
submittal. Please contact us if we can provide any additional information.
Sincerely,
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OAD12P Degree arm pole
OAD12WB Degree arm wall
KMA Mast arm adapter
KTMB Twin mounting bar
NOTES;
1 Consult factory for availability in Canada.
2 OPtionai multi-tap ballast (120, 208, 24C, 277VI. (120, 277, 347V in
Canadal. ..
3 May be ordered as accessory.
4 Oraer as separate line item. Important: with this accessory, a~ RPDas
Dr optional DAD12P mounti~g arm must be ordered on the fixture.
5 Other architeotural oolors available; see Arohitectural Colors brochure.
6 For arm mounting, refer to technioal data section in the Outdoor binder
for drilling template.
7 Mey be ordered with SCWA or LLRPSL
8 Must be ordered with SCWA or LLRPSL
Options
Shipped Installed In Fixture
SF Single iuse (120, 277, 347V)
nJa T8
OF Double fuse (2GB, 240, 430V)
n!3 TS
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PER NEOMA twist-lOCK receptacle only
(no photocontroU
ORS Quartz restrike system 1250W max,
120V lamp nct inclUded)
HS House side shield IR3 only)
CR Corrosion resistant finish
CSA listed and labeled to comply with
Canadian' Standards.
EC Emergency circuit
SCWA Super CWA Pulse Start Ballast
(TB only)
LLRPSL Low Loss Reactor Pulse Start
Ballast i277V only)
Shipped Separately3
PEt NEMA twist-lock PE (120, 208, 240V)
PE3 NEMA twist-lock PE {347V}
PE4 NEMA twist-lock PE (480V)
PE7 NEMA twist-lock PE \277V)
VG Vandal guard
SC Shorting cap for PER option
Accessories: Tenon Mounting Slipfitter
Number offixtures
Two@180. Two@90. Three@120. Thres@90.
T2D-28D T2D-290 T20-320 T20-390
T25.28D T25-290 T25-320 T25-390
T35.280 T35-290 T35-320 T35-390
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Tenon O,D. One
2-3/8" (S) T20-l90
2-7/8" (7.3) T25-l90
4" (102) T35-190
Architectural Colors (painted
finish)'
Stlmdard Colors
DOB 03rk bronze (stan,'
daid)
White
DSL B!a ck
Classic Colors
Medium bronze
Natural aluminum
Sandstone
Charcoal gray
Tennis green
Bright"red
Steel blue
OMB
DNA
OSS
DGC
DTG
OBR
DSB
Four@90Q
T2D-490
T25-49D
T35-490
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HOUSING ~ Rugged, heavy-gauge, spun aluminum hous-
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into housing. Standard finish is dark bronze (DDBl,
polyeste r powd e r, with other a rchits ctural colors avail-
able.
DOOR FRAME ~ Aluminum door frame with 1/8" impact-
resistant, tempered, glass lens. Stainless steel exter-
nal hardware. One-piece EPr closed-cell housing gas-
ket.
MOUNTING ~ Contoured, extruded 9" aluminum arm with
integral splice compartment for pole or wall mounting.
Optional mountings available.
OPTICS ---: Anodized, hydroformed, aluminum reflectors.
Four IES cutoff distributions available: Type II (Road-
wayl. Type III (Asymmetric), Type IV (Forward Throw),
Type V Square ISquare Symmetric). Reflectors hinge
out for easy.removal during installation and mainte-
nance.
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM ~ Constant wattage -autotrans-
former'(-20"F starting}, copper wound and 100% fac-
tory tested. Removable power door and positive lock-
ing disconnect plugs. .
SOCKET - Horizontally-oriented. mogul-base porcelain
socket with copper alloy, nickel-plated screw shell
and center contact. UL listed 1500W-600V. 4KV.
LISTING - UL listed for wet locations. listed and labeled
to comply with Canadian Standards (see Optionsl.
Type
Arm.Mounted Centriform Cutoff lighting
KAR2
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All dimensions are inches {centimetersl unless
otherwise specifierl.
Mounting ODtion Drilling Temol~te
Specifications
EPA: 1.5 W(.14m2)
(includes arm)
Diameter: 21.1/2 (54,6)
Depth: 11 (27.91
Arm length: 9 /22.9,
Weight: 45 Ibs (20 kgl
METAL HALIDE
320W, 350W, 400W
18' to 30' Mounting
SPDxx,RPDxx,DA012P 5
WBD>:l(,DAD1ZWB 6
VVWD'iX 7
ORDERING INFORMATION
Choose the boldface c~talog nomenclature that best suits your needs and
write it on the appropriate line. Order accessories as separate catalog number.
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KAR2 350MB
KAR2 400M1
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120
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MountingS
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Options
Shipped Instailed In fixture
SF Single fuse 1120, 277. 347Vl
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uf Double fuse (208,240, 480Vj
nfa T8
PER NEMA twist-lock receptacle only
(no photocontrol)
o.RS Quartz restrike system (250W max,
120V lamp not included
HS House side shield iR3 & R4 oniy)
CR Corrosion resistant finish
CSA Listed and labeled to complv with
Canadian Standards
EC EmergenCY circuit
SCWA Super CWA Pulse Start Ballast
(T8 only)
LLRPSL Low Loss Reactor Pulse Start
Ballast [277Vonly)
Shipped Separately"
PEl NEMA twist-lqcK PE 1120,208, 240Vl
PE3 NEMA twist-lockPE (347V,
PE4 NEMA twist.lock. PE [480V)
PE7 NEMA twist-lock PE (277V)
VG Vandal guard
SC Shorting ca p for PER option
1>I'D09
llPD09
WWD09
WBIl(!!l
Squa ra pole
Round pole
Wood pole or wall
Waii bracket
211
347
4801
T82
R2
R3
R4
R5S
IES Type il Roadway
IES Type JII Asymmetric
IES Type IV Forward Throw
IES Type V Square
Optional Mounting
OAD12P Degree arm pole
DAD12WB Degree arm wail
KMA Mast arm adapter
KTMB Twin mounting bar
NOTES:
1 Consult factory for availability in Cenada.
2 Optional multi-tap ballast (120, 208, 240, 277V). [120, 277, 347V in
Caneda}.
3 May be ordered as accessory.
4 Order as separate line item. Important: with this accessory, an APD09
or optional DAD12P mounting. arm must be ordered on the fixture.
S Other architectural colors available; see Architectural Colors brochure.
6 For arm mounting, refer to technical d'~ta section in the Outdoor binder
for drilling template.
7 May be ordered with SCWA or LLRPSL.
8 Must be ordered with SCWA or LlRPSL.
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Tenon 0.0,
2-3/8" ISI
2-7/8' (7.3)
4" (10.2)
Accessories: Tenon Mounting Slip fitter
Numberoffixtures
Two@180Q Two@90" Three@1200 Three@90Q
T20.28D T20-29D T20.32O T20-390
T25-280 T25-290 T25-320 T25-390
T35-280 TJ5.290 T35-320 T35-390
One
T20-190
T25-190
135-190
Four@90Q
T20-490
T25-490
TJ5-490
Architectural Colors (painted
fini.h)5 .
Standard Colors
DOE
Dark bronze {standard}
OWH White
DBL Black
Classic Coiors
9MB Medium bronze
DNA Natural aluminum
DSS Sandstone
DGC Charcoal gray
DTG Tennis green
DB R 8 right red
DSB Steel blue
Architecturel Class 1 Anodize
AllB Dark bronze
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TECHNICAL INFORMATION
EPA 1ft!) with 1.3 gust
Nominal Wall Approximate
Catalog mounting Pole Shaft Thickness 80 Max. 90 Max. 100 Max. Bolt Circle Bolt Size ship weight
Number height ~feet Size(in x in x ft (inchesl Gauge mph weight mph weight mph weight (inches) (in. x in. x in.l (pounds)
RTS 20 5-98 20 5.9 x 3.1 x 20 0.125 11 19.3 482 15.1 377 12.2 305 9.0 1 x 36 x 4 140
-4 RTS20 6-58 20 6.5 x 3.7 x 20 0.125 11 24.2 605 19.3 482 15.6 390 9.5 1 x 36 x 4 160 I
RTS 25 5-98 25 .5.9 x 2.4 x 25 0.125 11 12:5 312 9.9 247 8 200 9.0 1 x 36 x 4 155
RTS 25 ]-08 25 7.0x3.5x25 0.125 11 20.3 507 16.2 405 13.1 327 10.0 1 x 36 x4 200
RiS 25 7-0F 25 7.0 x 3.5 x 25 0.188 7 28.5 713 22.5 563 18.2 455 10:0 1 x 36 x 4, 280
~ RTS306-68 30 6.6 x 2.4 x 30 0.125 11 11.7 292 9.3 232 7.5 187 9.5 1 x 36 x 4 200
RTS 30 8-0B 30 8.0 x 3.8 x 30 0.125 11 18.9 473 14.9 373 12 300 11.0 1 x36x4 265
RTS 30 a-OF 30 8.0 x 3.8 x 30 0.188 7 27.5 550 21.6 542 17.5 439 11.0 1-114 x 42 x 6 380
RTS 35 7-38 35 73 x 2.4 x 35 0.125 11 11.2 280 8.9 222 7.1 177 10.5 1 x 36 x 4 250
RTS 35 8-5B 35 8.5 x 3.6 x 35 0.125 11 18.9 472 15.1 377 12.2 305 11.5 1 x 36 x 4 315
RTS 35 9-5B 35 9.5 x 4.6 x 35 0.125 11 23.2 580 18.2 455 14.5 363 13,0 1 x36x4 370
RTS 39 7-88 39 7.8 x 2.4 x39 0.125 11 10.7 267 8.5 212 6.6 165 11.0 1 x36x4 285
RTS 39 9-0B 39 9.0 x 3.6 x 39 0.125 11 17.2 430 13.5 338 10.8 270 12.5 1 x 36 x 4 355
RTS 39 9-0F 39 9.0x3.6x39 0.188 7 26.1 654 20,6 517 16.7 419 12.5 1-1/4 x42x6 515
RTS 4510-0B 45 10.0 x 3.7 x 45 0.125 11 17.4 435 13.5 338 10.6 265 13.5 1 x 36 x 4 450
RTS 45 10-0F 45 10.0 x 3.7 x 45 0.188 . 7 25.5 639 20.2 505 16.3 409 13.5 1-1/4x42x6 650
RTS 50 10-0B 50 10.0 x 30 x 50 0.125 11 13.2 330 10.6 265 8~3 208 13.5 1 x 36 x 4 475
RTS 50 10-0F 50 10.0 x 3.0 x 50 0.188 7 20.5 512 16.5 412 13.6 340 13.5 1-1/4 x 42 x 6 680
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HandhDle
Suffix
FDL'
FGL'
H1-18S'
VD
VAS
HH 1,1
HHC
FBC
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FestoDn Outlet - less electrical
Festoon GFI Outlet-less electrical
Horizolltal Arm Bracket - 1 fixture
Vibration Da mper
Less Anchor Baits
Extra Handhole
Handhole Cover
Full.Base Cover
IMPORTANT:
. These specifications are imended for general purposes only. Lithonia reserves theri~hl to chan~e
material or design, without prior notice, in a continuing effort to upgrade its products.
. Installation requires grout iJe packed under iJase to ensur~ full contact with foundation,
NOTES:
1 Specify location and orientation when
ordering {specify orientation fmm
handhole and height in feet above basel.
2 Combination of tenon-top and drill mount
requires extra handhole. .
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Re: Adaition ano Renovation to
Forest Dale E;lementary Senoal
Carmel Clay Senoals
CarmeL Indiana
Project No. 201100.00
Docket Nos. SUA-1-02, V-2~02 tnroLlgn V~7..Q2
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Planning & Zonlng Administrator
Department of CommLlMy Services
City of Carmel
One Civic Square
C~fTTlel, IN 40032
Dear I.al.lrence:
Fanning/Howey AssoCIates, Inc. has reviewed your comments on 1M plans recently submitted for
the worK. planned at Forest Dale Elementary School for Carmel Clay Schools. We wanleCl to
respond in writing on several items prior to the Technical AdVISOry Comminee meeting
1. The intent of the p~\lemer'1t and curP replacement was to not lea"e any ala pavement that
would cause additlonl!ll mall,tEmance for the School in the nea[ future. The reconstruction of
me curDS also allows for tht:! Incorporation of required accessible ramps along the sidewalk.
TM re-alignmem of tile entrance onves ana streets was never mentioned as a concern in
the preliminary meetings we had WIth the Department of Community Services. We woula
like to discuss thiS issue further dl.lring the Technical AdVISOry Committee meeting.
2- The I..lnlapeled sign shawn south of me north access drive shoulO Oft ident,fjea with Keynote
No_ 22, as you indicate.
3.
Parlcing lnforml':llion:
Number of Classrooms:
Number of staff:
Total:
35 x 2 spaces per classroom
60
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4. The plans Will be adjusted to includ8 CLlrPS at all parl<.ing lot areas.
5_ The eXisting wallwmounted institutional sign Will be removecl. Only the one proposed
,nst,tLltional gfOun<:1 Sign inCluded on Drawing Sheet G4 1 is being proposed for this Project,
6. The street acldress I'1Llmbers will be inclLlded in t"e sctlool identification sign.
7. TI"le COlored elevations of the signs will De Included in the Boara packets,
a Please rl!Wlew the attached information regarding the site lighting.
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Department of Community Services
City of Carmel
ProJect No. 20'100.00
February 18, 2002
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We have incll.ldeCl poth 20' and 30' nigh pOles far the site ligl'lM9. The 30' hIgh poles match me
existing site hgtning. put Slightly e:llc;eI!lQ the principal buitOH\g height. The use of smaller poles wO....ld
greatly It'lcrease the cost of site lighM9 for the Projett We woulc1like to continue the u~e of the 30'
poles, except along the north property line and adjacent to the buildiflg.
We appreciate YO\.lf comments and assistance on completing the informatlon requirec1 for the
submittal. Please contact uS If we can provlrll! any sQditional information.
SincerelY,
FANNING/HOWEY ASSOCIATES, INC.
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Project Manage({Senior AsSOCiate
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DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING
February 18,2002
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FanningIHowey Associates, Inc.
9025 North River Road, Suite 200
Indianapolis, IN 46240
RE: Forest Dale Elementary School Addition/Renovation, Project Review #1
Dear Mr. Cradler:
We have reviewed the drawing submitted for this project. We offer the following comments:
GENERAL INFORMA nON
1. The project site is located within current City of Carmel Corporate Limits.
2. Jurisdictions:
o Streets and Right of Way (Lakeshore Drive) - City of Carmel
o Water, Sanitary Sewer, Storm Sewers/Drainage - City of Carmel
3. Board of Public Works and Safety Requirements:
o Additional Water and Sanitary Sewer Availability
.. COImnercial Curb Cut. If required, please provide submission exlribits that show the locations of
the proposed curb cuts and acell/decellanes (if applicable); appropriate dimensions including
drive width, overall width at the street, acell/decel dimensions; rddii, etc.; and location of
opposing curb cuts. Exhibits should be 8 12 x liar of a size that can be reduced to 8 l;2 x II such
as 812 x 14 or 11 x 17.
o Temporary Construction Entrance. Same requirements as for Commercial Curb Cuts.
I> Any penrument improvement to be installed within dedicated right of way and/or within dedicated
casements. This approval would require a Consent to Encroach Agreement behveen the Owner
and the City of Cannel.
I am enclosing a schedule oHor Board of Public Works and Safety meeting dates and agenda
deadlines for your use. Please use the Engi.neering Department deadlines for submissions to the Board.
Any submission to the Board requires prior approval by the Carmel Clay Plan Commission and/or
the Board of Zoning Appeals and completion of review by the Technical Advisory Committee. All
written requests to be place on the Board's agenda must include the appropriate Docket Number
and the date (or dates) of approval by the appropriate agency.
4. T,AC. ReviewlDrawings submitted for approval:
We request that all comments and comment letters generated by tlris office be answered in writing and
be accompanied by a drawing reflecting requested revisions. Final drawings will not be approved for
construction until all Engineering Department and Utility Department issues have been resolved. The
design engineer must certify all drawings submitted for approval. This office will require a minimum
of five-sets of drawings for approval after all issues have becn resolved. These drmvings correspond to
the civil set submitted for T.A.C, review. Our drawing requirements are different from drawings
required by our Building and Code Enforcement Department. The drawings will be stamped as
approved and will be signed by the City Engineer and by the Director of Cannel Utilities. The Owner
will receive one-set which is to be maintained 011 the construction site at all times. Carmel Utilities
will receive two-sets. Our Public Works Inspector will receive one-set and one-set will be maintained
ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317,1571-2441
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in the Engineering Department. If more than five-sets are requested to be approved, Ole additional sets
must be submitted with the five required sets.
5. Please be advised that any installation of signs, walls, irrigation systems, fences, etc. within dedicated
right of way or within dedicated easements will require a Consent to Encroach Agreement ,vith the
City of Carmel.
6. Camel Utilities should be provided dramngs for rcview of water and sanitary sewer issues. They will
provide a sepamte review regarding these issues.
7. Camel Utilities does not subscribe to "Holey Moley" and should be contacted directly regarding for
all water main and sanitary sewer main locations.
8. I am including copies of the following with this correspondence:
. Commercial Project Approval Procedures
.. Permit Data, Contacts, etc.
. Conunercial Pennitting Procedures
BONDING REQUIREMENTS
9. Upon initial review, it appears the only bonding requirements are those associated with work in the
right of way of Lake shore Drive. A Right of Penn it is required for work in the right of way. Bonding,
in the amount of $2,000.00 per instance, is also a requiremcnt. Bonding requirements will be
determined as this project proceeds through the review process.
PROJECT COMMENTS
10. Is the existing detentiollarca sized to accommodate the proposed new parking areas and building
additions? Please forward a drainage report that confinns this and outlines how tilis will be
accomplished. We reserve the opportunity for further review and submission of additional comments
regarding drainage upon receipt of these calculations.
11. It appears that Ole tluee existing driveways arc being demolished and rebuilt. At the time of earlier
discussions, we were not aware of this. If this is the case, this department suggests that this is an
appropriate time to revise the driveway configuration on Lakeshore Drive. Although we understand
that there may be a need to direct a specific type of traffic (buses, parent pick -up, etc.) through a
defined movement pattem, we would suggest the consideration of reducing the three curb cuts to two.
Accordingly, these curb cuts can then align with the existing residential streets to improve overall
safety. Our recommendations are:
a) Eliminate either the existing south or middle drive curb cut.
b) Combine the existing south and middle curb cut with one that is located so that it aligns with
Oakwood Court across Lakeshore Drive. Upon entering the school property, this drive can then
split directions.
c) Relocate the existing north curb so so that it aligns with Cheryl Court across Lakeshore Drive.
d) At a minimum, all three curb cuts can shift south so that the northern two align with opposing
streets, and the soutilernmost drive maintains an appropriate separation distance from the middle
drive.
12. We would also request that aeeIl/decel lanes be considered for the main relocated curb cut. It would be
especially appropriate for the curb cut to be utilized by school buses.
13. Since there is a sizable building addition planned, additional Water and Sanitary Sewer Connection
Fees may be required. Please contact John Duffy of Cannel Utilities regarding this issue. If additional
fees are required, Board of Work approval will also be required as explained previously.
14. Not all storm pipes in the parking areas are identified as to size, type of material and slope.
l5. Do not see water mains/water services on the Utility Plan.
16. A legend would be helpful 10 distinguish between existing and proposed storm sewers, sanitary sewers
and water mains.
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17. Please provide additional information on the "Overflow Parking Area". Is it to be regarded? Will it be
stone or grass?
18. All parking lots should be curbed to control and direct stann water to appropriate inlet structures.
The above comments are based upon the Engineering Department's initial review. Please provide our
office with a follow up letter and revised plans, indicating all revisions. Second and subsequent reviews
'will focus only on revised items. It is critical that this office be made aware of all modifications made on
the plans being re-submitted, particularly if any such changes are considered "new" or fall outside of our
initial review.
If you llave questions, please contact Kate Weese, Mike McBride or me at 571-2441.
1JJiui;
Dick Hill, Assistant Director
Department of Engineering
Enclosures
Cc: M. Kate Weese, City Engineer (w/o encl.)
Mike McBride, Assistant City Engineer (w/o encl.)
Jon Dobosiewicz, Department of Conununity Services (w/o encl.)
John Duffy, Cannel Utilities (w/a encl.)
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Lillig, Laurence M
Thursday, February 14, 2002 1 :35 PM
Johnson, Sue E; Morrissey, Phyllis G; Pattyn, Dawn E; Tingley, Connie S
HOllibaugh, Mike P; Dobosiewicz, Jon C; Hahn, Kelli A; Keeling, Adrienne M; Kendall, Jeff A
Forest Dale Elementary (SUA-1-02; V-2-02 through V-07-02)
Docket No. 5UA-1-02 has been assigned to the Special Use Amendment petition filed by Jeff Bolinger of
Fanning/Howey Associates on behalf of Carmel/Clay Schools for Forest Dale Elementary. There is no Filing Fee for
this petition.
The following Docket Nos. have been assigned to the Developmental Standards Variance petitions associated with the
aforementioned Special Use Amendment petition:
V-2-02 25.7.01-2
V-3-02 25.7.01-2
V-4-02 25.7.01-2
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These Items appear on the Wednesday, February 20, 2002,Technical Advisory Committee agenda.
These Items will appear on the Monday, March 25, 2002, agenda of the Board of Zoning Appeals under Public Hearings.
Ten (10) informational packets will need to be delivered to BZA Secretary Ramona Hancock no later than noon, Friday,
March 15, 2002.
Proof of Notice will need to be delivered to the Department no later than noon, Friday, March 22, 2002.
Mailed and pUblished Public Notice will need to be accomplished no later than Thursday, February 28, 2002.
Sue Ellen, please contact Mr. Bolinger at (317) 848-0966 [fax: 848-0843] with this information.
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Indianapolis, :rN 46240
re: Special Use Amendment and Developmental Standards Variance Petitions for Forest Dale
Elementary (Docket Nos. SUA-I-02; V-2-02 through V-7-02)
viafax (317/848-0843) & Us. Mail
Dear Mr. Bolinger:
Our office has reviewed the Special Use Amendment and Developmental Standards
Variance petitions filed by Fanning/Howey Associates on behalf of CarmeVClay Schools, for
Forest Dale Elementary at 10721 Lakeshore Drive West. The following are comments that need to
be addressed:
Application:
" The Special Use Application form appears to be complete as filed.
"The Developmental Standards Variance Application form appears to be complete as filed.
" Please remember to proviqe fully filled out Findings-of."Fact sheets for the Special Use
Amendment and each Developmental Standards Variance the night of the meeting for the
Board's use. Also remember to fill out the Docket No. and date on each Ballot Sheet for the
Board. The Findings-of-Fact and Ballot Sheet must be collated.
Plans:
D Notes 1 and 2 on Sheet GD 1.1: Site Demolition Plan indicate that the pavement and
concrete associated with the existing curb cuts are to be remove,d and disposed of. That
being the case, the new curb cuts should be made to align with Cheryl Court on the north
and Oakwood Court on the south. The southernmost curb cut should be eliminated, and
access to that area derived through the cut opposite Oakwood Court.
· On Sheet G1.1: Overall Layout Plan, the sign'indicated in Note 22 appears to be
unlabeled. Unless you indicate otherwise I will proceed with the understanding that this is
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the unlabeled item shown ten feet east of the Lakeshore Drive West right-of-way and ten
feet south of the north access drive.
~ On Sheet G3.1: Enlarged Layout Plan, the parking total indicates 275 standard parking
spaces. Please provide the following information: 1) the total number of staff that work at
Forest Dale Elementary and 2) the total number of classrooms within the school. The
parking requirement for a School of General Elementary Education is one (1) space per staff
member plus two (2) spaces per classroom.
.,/. The p~king lot needs to be fully curbed. There are sections of the lot that do not appear to
have curbs indicated on the plans.
· F9r::!'p-ii:t;p'11es of sign permitting and review; this use will be considered lll1der Section
25. 7. 02~5.: Institutional Uses of the Sign Ordinance.
· Wi1l'~Y',B,xisting Wall Institutional Sign be retained, or will it be removed in favor of the
propos(ed Ground Institutional Sign? If both signs are to be on site, a Developmental
Standards Variance (DSV) of Section 25. 7.02-5(b): Number & Type will need to be filed to
allow two (2) Institutional Signs.
· The Sign Area of the Changeable Copy Sign is twenty-four (24) square feet. This requires
a DSV of Section 25. 7. 02-5(c)(ii). The petition for this has been received.
· The Height of the Ground Sign is six feet, two inches (6' 2"). This requires a DSV of
Section 25.7. 02-5(d). The petition for this has been received.
. The Sign Area of Sign A is 27.17 square feet. This requires a DSV of Section 25.7.01-2:
Definitions: TRAFFIC DIRECTIONAL SIGN. The petition for this has been received.
. The Sign Area of Signs B, C & D is 26.83 square feet. These each require a DSV of
Section 25.7.01-2: Definitions: TRAFFIC DIRECTIONAL SIGN. The petitions for these
have been received.
· On Sheet G4.1: Sections & Details, please include the street address for Forest Dale
Elementary on the School Identification Sign. The area of the street address will not count
against the total allowable sign area for the sign; and the numbers should be large enough to
be legible from the right-of~way. You may affix it to the brick base ofllie sign if you wish.
· Please provide color elevations of the signs with the Board's packets.
.,....; Please provide cut sheets. of the proposed luminaires.
G Please provide information regarding pole height for the site lighting. Poles should not
exceed the Building Height of the Principle Building.
· Detailed comments on the Landscape Plan will be provided separately by the City's Urban
Forester.
If you have questions regarding these comments please contact me at (317) 571-2417.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
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LETTER OF APPROVAL
The undersigned has reviewed the proposed plans for
Addition and Renovation to Forest Dale Elementary School
and has approved the plans subject to the following:
1. After review of this project, I haVe no further conditions or comments at this time.
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Please respond to the above noted condition(s) in writing and submit to our office prior to the
scheduled Technical Advisory Meeting for this project.
Date: Februarv 14,2002
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containil'lg the plans for the Clbove~mentioned project. After reviewing the plans the Highway
Department has the following comments:
1. It appears that this project lies entirely within the limits of the City of Carmel. rhel'Elfore,
all future comments shall be directed toward the City of Carmel.
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Pier 1 Imports (Building Modifications)
Petitioner seeks to alter the architectural design approved as part of Docket No. 111-87 ADLS:
The site is located at 715 East Carmel Drive. The site is zoned B-8lbusiness and is located
within the SR 431/Keystone A venue Overlay Zone.
Filed by Glenn Golson, Jr., of Architecture + for Pier I Imports.
Miller Auto Care (Building Expansion & Site Improvements)
The applicant seeks approval to construct an addition to an existing building. The site is located
at 434 South Rangeline Road. The site is zoned I-IlIndustrial (part) and B-I/Business (part).
Filed by Ryan McNeely of Design & Build Corp. for Miller Auto Care.
Forest Dale Elementary (Building Expansion & Site Improvements)
The applicant see~s approval to construct additions to an. existing building and site
improvements. The site is located at 10721 Lakeshore Drive West. The site is zoned S-
2IResidnetial
Filed by Jeff Bolinger of FanningIHowey Associates, Inc. for CarmelJClay Schools.
Danbury Estates Plat Vacation (plat Vacation)
Petitioner seeks to vacate a portion of the Danbury Estates Subdivision including Lots 24 through
32, and a portion of the right-of-way of Dmham Drive and Dublin Drive. The site is generally
located a the southwest comer of the Danbury Estates Subdivision in the City of Carmel. The site is
zoned PUD and R-4 / Residence.
Filed by the Board of Commissioners of Hamilton County.
WestenD Hills Subdivision (primary Plat)
The applicant seeks approval to plat a WI-lot residential subdivision on 80:t: acres. The site is
located on the southeast comer of West 14lst Street and West Road. The site is zoned S-
IIResidentia1.
Filed by Dennis Olmstead of Stoep pel werth & Associates, inc. forPlatinum Properties L.L.C.
Village ofWestClay (Rezone and Primary Plat Amendment)
The site is located within the Village of West Clay. The site is zoned PUDlPlanned Unit
Development.
Filed by Jose Krutz of Brenwick TND Communities, LLC.
Village of West Clay, Section 5001 (Secondary Plat & Revised Area Layout)
The site is located at the southeast comer of 131 sl Street and Tovme Road within the Village of
West Clay. The site is zoned PUD/Planned Unit Development.
Filed by Keith Lash of the Schneider Corporation for Brenwick TND Communities, LLC.
Claybourne Estates, Section 1 (Secondary Plat and Construction Plans)
The site is generally located at the northwest corner ofShelborne Road and West 13151 Street and
on the south side of 131,t Street 1/4 mile west ofShelborne Road. The site is zoned S-l/Residence
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Pier One Imports - Property is zoned B-8 and is the 431 Overlay district. No landscape
plans received. Current ordinance requires buffering requirements of D on the Keystone
and Carmel Drive perimeters, B on the west side, and A on the south side. Several
changes to the landscape areas have been made since the 1987 approval, including
removal of some landscaping areas in front for parking. Though there is some
landscaping in place that needs to be preserved, but it does not meet current requirements.
Areas of concern: lack of trees in the 30' greenbelt along Keystone
Miller Auto Care - No landscape plans received. Property is zoned 1-1 and B-1.
Current ordinance requires side yards of at least 5 feet and buffering requirements of A or
B (3 shade trees, 3 or 2 ornamental trees, and 9 or 15 shrubs, per hlUldred linear feet). If
existing streets are to be disturbed by construction, a plan for their movement or
replacement must be submitted.
Forest Dale Elementary School ~ Surrounding properties zoned S-2 residential. Current
ordinance requires perimeter buffering standard D (5 shade trees, 5 ornamental trees, and
27 shrubs or 9 evergreens per 100 linear feet). There are no planting "notes" or
specifications on the plans. They must be submitted, including items such as the removal
ofthe stakes and wires within one year. Planting details must specify that the root flare
(not root ball) is to be planted at or slightly higher than grade. Root ball should not be
covered or mOlUlded over with clay "topsoil". Crabapple variety "Snowdrift" should not
be used, approved alternative should be chosen. Along the north perimeter between the
property line and the parking lot, there is a storm sewer and an lUlderground gas line
running parallel to the drainage swale. This may present a conflict to planting Ash trees
along the parking lot. Existing plants to remain should be marked on the plans as such.
Danbury Estates Plat vacation - No comments at this time.
Western Hills Subdivision - Have not received landscape nor open space plans yet.
Village of West Clay and Section 5001 - Have been meeting with Park Pifer, landscape
director for Brenwick, on plans and comments
Claybourne Estates, Section 1 - Have not received secondary plat and construction
landscape plans yet for review
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Carmel ,Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana'
Project No. 201100.00
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Educational Services Center Paving
Parking Expansion
Prairie Trace Elementary School
Addition and Renovation to
Forest Dale Elementary School
New Middle School
Addition and Renovation to
Carmel Junior High School
Parking Expansion
Towne Meadow Elementary School
Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana
Project Nos. 200137.11, 201097.01, 201100.00, 201102.00, 201104.00, and
201112.01
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Rollin E. Farrand, Jr., RA, Director of Facilities .and Transportation
The following is a report of our meeting on the above date. If you find anything with
which you disagree, please inform us, in writing, within ten calendar days of receipt.
Present:
Michael P. Hollibaugh, Director, Department of Community Services,
John Dobosiewicz, Planning Administrator, Jeff Kendall, Building Commissioner,
Dick Hill, Department of Engineering, Laurence Lillig, Planning Administrator, City of
Carmel; Terry Quillman, Ter Horst, Lamson & Fisk, Inc.; William E. Payne,
Allen J. Cradler, Jeff Bolinger, Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc.
Purpose:
This meeting was held at the Department of Community Services in Carmel to
discuss these Projects, and identify design criteria and comments in advance of
submissions to be made to the City of Carmel.
1. Addition and Renovation to Forest Dale Elementary School.
a. The masonry wall that will enclose the cooling tower is most likely an jmprovement
for controlling noise as compared to the existing fence.
b. A variance is required for each sign that exceeds allowable areas. For this Project, a
separate variance will be required for the traffic directional sign and the building sign.
It was Doted that a' deSign template for ~uildjng signs will be developed' and used with
. subtle modifications at each one of the Carmel Clay Schools Projects.
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Educational Services Center Paving
Parking Expansion
Prairie Trace Elementary School
Addition and Renovation to
Forest Dale Elementary School
New Middle School. .
Addition and Renovation to'
Carmel Junior"High School
Parking Expansion
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c. One crosswalk should be provided at the north and south entry drives, and connect
to a sidewalk on the east side of the road. It appears that an accessible ramp must
be installed at these locations on the west side of the street. The City of Carmel
does not install truncated domes as detectable warnings at accessible ramps.
d. Revised drainage calculations to indicate increased hard surface area must be
provided with submission materials.
e. John Duffy should be contacted to discuss and confirm that existing utilities can
adequately serve the new additions.
f. The proposed signs are not in the right-of~way. Signs that are located in a right-of-
way require a request for permission to encroach.
g. Parking lot lighting will be replaced in the expanded north parking lot. A maximum
pole height of 20' will. be provided, and shorter poles would be preferred. Lighting
fixtures should have a 900 cut70ff with screens.
2. Addition and Renovation to Carmel Junior High School:
a.
Regional detention at the south portion of this site is still under consideration. This is
the most logical location should this occur on this site because it has limited, or no
impact on, subsequent proposed development.
b.
A 40' half right-of-way dedication wjll be requested on the south property line to
accommodate the proposed future road. It is anticipated that this road might be
installed as soon as two years from now.
c.
A 40' half right-of-way dediCation on Guilford Drive (whli3re this currently does not
exist) is requested.
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A 10' wide asphalt path minimum is required along Guilford Drive. This may
terminate at the drainaqe ditch .at the north end of the site. The School Corporation
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Prairie Trace Elementary School
Addition and Renovation to
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New Middle School
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Carmel Junior High School
Parking Expansion
Towne Meadow Elementary School
Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana
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f. If significant remodeling and resurfacing of the east parking lot is accomplished,
islands should be installed for traffic control andappearance.
g. Landscaping improvements will be requested. Low hedgerows at the east side of the
parking lots would be preferred.
h. The City of Carmel Will request that the School Corporation commit to eliminating the
south entrance onto Guilford Road, and connect to the new south road on the south
property line at the time that the latter is completed. It was noted that this would
require some reconsideration of internal circulation on this campus. It is possible that
the: road will be installed within two years, and that the closing of this drive onto
Guilford Road would need to occur before this Project is completed.
i. Planting along the north property line should be m'aintained.
J. A pathway on the north side of the site is required as part of the Old Meridian District
overlay. This may be combined with other pavements where possible.
3. New Middle School:
a. The retention pond will have a gradual slope to the water's edge, and will include a
bench or shallow area with 0' entry depth extending into the area covered by water.
b. Acceleration and deceleration lanes will be required at the 1261h Street and
Shelborne Road entrances. Proposed rights-of-way, not officially dedicated, exist
opposite these entrances, but if adequate right-of-way property is unobtainable from
property owners opposite the school site, itis likely that a double-stack configuration
will be required on the school side at these locations. In addition, the lane widths of
126thStreet and Sherborne Road do not meet the 12' minimum width standard and it
is most likely that the impact of this site development will necessitate up to a 3' width
of additional asphalt paving piUS 3' wide gravel shoulder along 126th Street and
Shelborne Road. It is also likely that some intersection improvement will be required
at 126th Street and Shelborne Road. The most that could be requested of the School
Corporation is a dedicated right turning lane. It was noted that a traffic study is
currently under way, and this information will be provided to Fanning/Howey
Associates, Inc. when it becomes available in two to four weeks. .
c. It was requested that a dimension of approximately 150' be provided between the
126th Street entrance and the first entrance drive to the north parking lot.
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Parking Expansion
Prairie Trace Elementary School
Addition and Renovation to
Forest Dale Elementary School
New Middle School
Addition and Renovation to
Carmel Junior High School
Parking Expansion
Towne Meadow Elementary School
Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana
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Sizing information for domestic water needs should be forwarded to the City of
Carmel Water Department as soon as possible.
d. The City of Carmel Water Department will serve this site. A 10" - 12" main will be
located approximatelY 400' to the north of this site as part of a currently planned
subdivision. It was noted that water to the school site could be used as soon as
2003. This does not appear to be a problem. Additional pressure will be
accommodated through the introduction of a new water tower at 131st Street and
Shelborne Road.
e. The City at Carmel will ask that this property be annexed by the City of Carmel.
Doug Haney, City ot Carmel Attorney, will be contacted to make thiS request. The
annexation can be accomplished within 18 to 24 months, and will not impact the
current review by the city aild county.
f. Storm drainage will be reviewed by the Hamilton CoLinty Surveyor's Office.
Steve Brohrman, of the Hamilton County Engineering and Highway Department, will
review the road and traffic planning criteria.
g. Publ1c Service Indiana will provide electrical service to this site. Threl3-phase service
is available to the north ana east.
h. All interior road and parking areas should be curbed with curb and gutter. The
interior road should have hea'ily~duty pavement. There was riO objection should a
good portion ot the interior road be phased and provided ata later date.
i. A 10' wide asphalt path must be provided at the entire site perimeter. This should
connect to interior sidewalks as well. The interior .sidewalks may be concrete with
monolithic curbs. The asphalt path should be located in the road right-ot-way,
although it may curve out of'the right-of-way at the 126th Street and Shelborne Road
intersection. Should the latter configuration be provided, a spur to the corner should
be included.
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Educational Services Center Paving
Parking Expansion
Prairie Trace Elementary School
Addition and Renovation to
Forest Dale Elementary School
New Middle School
Addition and Renovation to
Carmel Junior High School
Parking Expansion
Towne Meadow Elementary School
Carmel Clay Schools
Carmel, Indiana
Project Nos. 200137.11,201097.01,201100.00,201102.00,201104.00, and 201112.01
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j. Further discussions regarding sanitary sewer service should continue with Clay
Regional Waste District. It is possible that the requested sanitary line will
accommodate future development, and result in some rebate of construction costs to
the School Corporgtion in the future. In that regard, it would probably be wise to run
this line along 126th Street and Shelborne Road, rather than extending through the
site where an easement would be requested.
k. As a general 'rule of thumb', Towne Meadow Elementary School should be used as
an example for landscaping. There are no specific landscaping requirements for
interior parking lots as configured. It is suggested that landscaping for areas near
the building may pull from the perimeter landscaping requirements. Interior islands
should be planted on the order of one tree per 400 square feet.
I. Submission to the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) will be made on
April2, 2002.
4. Parking Expansion Towne Meadow Elementary School:
a. Some buffer planting is required on the south side adjacent to the property line. This
may be articulated along the parking, in lieu of a straight-line approach at the
property line.
5. Parking Expansion Prairie Trace Elementary School:
a. Perimeter landscaping at the proposed parking lot addition along the southwest side
is required. Additional planting along the original parking lot should also be included.
b. It was noted that Dave Sobczak, representing Flaugher, Inc., the current Contractor
in place, has outstanding issues with the Department of Community Services, and
the building permit is being withheld pending issues regarding his past performance.
6. Educational Services Center Paving:
a. TAC submission is not required. A copy of this proposed pavement resurfacing and
replacement Project will be forwarded to Dick Hill for reference only.
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Rollin E. Farrand, Jr. RA, Director of Facilities and Transportation
The following is a report of our meeting on the above date. If you find anything with
which you disagree, please inform us, in writing, within ten calendar days of receipt.
Present:
Michael P. Hollibaugh, Director, Department of Community Services; Kate Weese,
City Engineer; Jeff Kendall, Building Commissioner; John Dobosiewicl, Planning
Administrator; Laurence Lillig, Planning Administrator, City of Carmel;
Charles R. Tyler, Rick E. Durham, Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc.
Purpose:
This meeting was held at The Department of Community Services in Carmel to
discuss the current site design issues at Forest Dale Elementary School.
'l. ChUCK Tyler provided an overview of the Project noting the following:
a. The current building of 78,000 square feet is being expanded by approximately
20,000 square feet. Student capacity will increase from 625 students to 665
students. Additions will be located on the north and south sides of the existing
building.
b. The existing south drive and parking area will be shifted to the south to
accommodate the south building addition. The existing curb cut will be maintained.
This area, while originally designed for bus traffic, is utilized for parent drop-off and
pick-up,
c, The main entrance drive will be expanded to better accommodate bus movement
and parking. Expanded visitor parking will also be provided, Existing curb cuts will
also be utilized for this work.
d. Some existing parking will be lost on the north side of the building due to the new
addition. It is currently proposed to replace these parking spaces by expanding the
parking to the northeast. The grading will need to maintain the existing swale along
the north edge of the parking lot.
e. The south playground will be relocated to the northeast side of the building, closer to
the gymnasium and cafeteria. This will facilitate access by the students after lunch.
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f. A smaller playground will be developed at the northwest corner of the building to
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immediately. Construction is scheduled for completion in early 2004. The new
adaitions will be constructed first. This will then allow students to move into new
areas of the building as other existing areas are renovated. A construction phasing
plan will be provided by the Skillman Corporation prior to the start of activity on site.
2. Rick Durham reviewed the current status of the storm drainage design as follows:
a. Some expansion of the existing detention area will be required to accommodate the
increased building and parking surface areas.
b. An existing 24-inch storm sewer, which serves the Keystone Woods neighborhood,
enters the site at the north property line, The water is currently conveyed through the
School's detention area to the outlet to the east. There are not any known drainage
problems in the area served by this 24-inch line.
c. There are existing trees and brush in the area of the stormwater headwalls. These
may be impacted by the reshaping of the basin required to increase its capacity.
They may remain as long as they do not impact flow to/from the adjacent structures.
3, Discussion:
a. The Parks Department may have contributed to the development of the playground
at this site. They should be contacted regarding the proposed relocation of this
equipment.
b. The striping of left turn lanes along Lakeshore Drive will not be required.
C. The south parking area should be striped for event parking.
d. A designated overflow parking area should be identifjed on the site. This does not
need to be an improved area. It can simply be a portion of the lawn where patrons
are directed to park when special events generate increased parking needs.
e. The parking lot lighting should be evaluated. The tall poles on the north side of the
site have been the subject of some complaints from the adjacent property owners.
There are flood fixtures on some of the poles that create considerable glare. Shorter
poles should be pursued on the riorth lot. The taller poles could be relocated to
serve the south parking area.
f. Signage will need to be reviewed and approved. This should be a part of the Special
Use Amendment to be submitted to the Board of Zoning Appeals.
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g. A sidewalk should be considered on the north side of the north drive to better direct
walkers to the main sidewalk by the building.
h. The north drive/parking intersection should be evaluated to see if another
configuration would provide clearer options for the incoming driver. With the building
expanding to the north, the direct entry drive condition has been compromised.
i. Gary Hoyt with the Carmel Fire Department should be contacted for comment on the
current plans.
j. Scott Brewer, ,Urban Forester for the City of Carmel, should be contacted regarding
street tree requirements along Lakeshore Drive,
k. Street side landscaping should utilize the i0-foot planting strip between the street
curb and the sidewalk.
I. The School Board has approved the replacement of College Wood Elementary
School. The new facility will be constructed at the Shelborne Road site, along with
the New Middle School.
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Weese, Kate K
Wednesday, December 05,2001 10:56 AM
Hollibaugh, Mike P; 'Charles R. Tyler'
Lillig, Laurence M
RE: Carmel Clay Schools - Forest Dale ES
Wednesday works fine for me. I will put down 11 :00 unless and until I hear a different time... Thank you.
Kate
-----Original Message-----
From: Hollibaugh, Mike P
Sent: Wednesday, December 05,2001 10:36 AM
To: 'Charles R. Tyler'
Cc: Weese, Kate K; Lillig, Laurence M
Subject: RE: Carmel Clay Schools - Forest Dale ES
Charles:
Wednesday is a reaHy good day right now. I will copy Kate and Laurence with this response and hope they will be able
to sit in as well.
My preference would be late morning, say around 11 :00, but really any time that day overall is ok.
thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles R Tyler [SMTP:ctyler@fhai.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:04 AM
To: Mike Hollibaugh (E-mail)
Subject: Carmel Clay Schools - Forest Dale ES
Importance: High
We have moved into the initial site design phase on this project. I was wondering if we might be able to sit down
with you sometime next week (Wednesday 12th or Thursday 13th) in order to update you on our progress and
coordinate with you on this specific site.
We now have a more definitive schedule and would like to discuss/confirm needed submissions to the City of
Carmel.
We should also include someone from your Department of Engineering. Should we contact Dick Hill or Kate
Weese direct or can we coordinate their participation through your office? I don't have an email address for either
of them at this time.
Thank you.
Charles R. Tyler, AlA
Owner -in-Charge/Principal
Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc.
Indianapolis, Indiana
(317) 848-0966
(317) 848-0843 fax