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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTAC2003-0213CARMEL/CLAY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SINGLE TOPIC AGENDA Date: February 13, 2003 Place: Carmel City Hall Caucus Rooms, 2nd Floor 3:00 p.m. Martin Marietta Materials - Mueller Property South - Sand & Gravel Mineral Extraction (Special Use) Petitioner seeks approval to establish sand and gravel extraction operation on 96.921± acres. The site is located at the southwest corner of the intersection of East 106th Street and Hazel Dell Parkway. The site is zoned S-1/Residence - Low Density. Filed by John Tiberi of Martin Marietta Materials, Inc. Present for petitioner: John Tiberi of Martin Marietta Materials, Inc.; Mark Williams, Mining Specialist and Vice President of Scully & Loy; Max Williams, Engineer; and Dan Hoskins, general manager for northern operations for Martin Marietta. Overview of project by John Tiberi: The proposal is for construction of a sand and gravel extraction on a site approximately 97 acres in total. Mineral extraction would take place on approximately 55.9 acres; the permit encompasses 61.9 acres. Also, as a part of that application, there is the re-location of Blue Woods Creek. COMMENTS FROM TAC MEMBERS: Scott Brewer, Urban Forester for Carmel, said he would submit a detailed comment letter as soon as he receives and has time to adequately review the plans. There are references to perimeter buffering requirements in Paragraph 26.4; Scott gave the petitioner a copy of the buffer requirements and a list of species of trees that are acceptable. Jenny Chapman, Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office, sent a comment letter and gave Mr. Tiberi a duplicate. Petitioner needs to send in estimate, bond, and maintenance agreement, easement description, non-enforcement agreement and 5 stage construction plan???????. John Duffy, City Utilities, sent comment letter. There are three wells in the area and intentions for at least two additional wells south of 106th Street, east of Hazel Dell. This application is cause for concern for both existing wells and definitely future wells. The letter asks for complete hydraulic analysis of Cool Creek to the north, 96th Street to the south, Lake Shore Drive to the west, and White River to the east. This is a clearly different operation than initially proposed on the north side of 106th Street. There are concerns with potential draw-downs to the water. John Duffy said Spectra had similar comments, probably in more technical terminology. Generally, we want to know how you are currently moving ground water and how you plan on doing that in the future—in particular open discharges into Cool Creek, Blue Creek Woods, or the White River. Other comments in the letter are more operational. There is an 18 inch Bradford sewer line running east/west on 106th Street approximately 15 feet. It is not known whether this will be impacted or not. The line does have a significant amount of flow. Zeff Weiss, attorney, asked if there were existing studies of the areas that Martin Marietta is seeking for use that would be helpful to him and his engineer. John Duffy said there are existing studies for existing wells and some existing studies for future wells. John Duffy recommended Zeff Weiss make a formal request for these studies from the City Attorney’s office. Todd Snyder, Carmel/Clay Parks & Recreation, no comment at this time. John South, County Soil & Water Conservation District, said one thing that might help is to know the post land for the property is. Will this ground eventually be developed for single family homes, condos, etc.? The slopes need to be analyzed to see if this is logical. John South recommended a top soiling plan for the reclamation, particularly in those areas where during the mining operation, there is sand and gravel spread around, etc. and this may not be the best soil conditions to put plantings back into place—there should be some requirement for top soiling—top soiling all vegetated areas. Another issue is that it looks as if the entire area will not be mined all at once but over a period of time. What is the intended land cover during the period of time waiting for it to be mined—will it be planted to grass? Final comment is regarding post land use—is the lake edge going to be left in a non-erosive condition? John South will send the detailed comment letter to petitioner and Department. Laurence Lillig for DOCS. More soils being taken out to expose sand and gravel and limestone than is accommodated for in the creation of the berms between the removal of the over-burden and the dredging for the re-routing of the creek—where is the remainder of this material going? Mark Williams? The over-burden material will be used to construct the berms around the property. The sand and gravel will be processed. Laurence Lillig said it looked as if there were a great deal more soil coming out than will be going into the berms. John Tiberi? We are proposing that we may process some of the over-burden material for sale. We have not yet done the calculations. John South said there should be a submittal for erosion control and the plans show that here and there—but it is not one package. A separate erosion control plan would be helpful outlining construction sequence and some of those issues just talked about. Rule 5 will apply. A full size set of plans would also be helpful. Mike McBride, City Engineering Dept., would like a set of full size construction drawings for the re-location of Blue Woods Creek. After the drawings are received, we will provide a detailed comment letter. For now, we have concerns with “de-watering” and where those discharge points will be; those can be indicated on the drawings. There are some concerns with the route of some of the existing “de-watering” activities. Specifically on Gray Road there is a culvert that is currently being used to transmit the “de-watering” pipes and there has been conversation between Engineering and Martin-Marietta in the past that something needs to happen here to improve the situation. We would like to see that corrected before we approve this process. Martin Marietta responded that this is being taken care of. Martin Marietta has a permit from the County Highway Department and nothing additional is needed at this time. Mike McBride asked if there is to be an access point onto 116th Street, more or less the same location where the River Road right-of-way is. Martin Marietta responded in the affirmative—the crossing of the Creek would be 4, 36-inch RCP’s. Mike McBride said the Engineering Dept. would prefer to see one larger specialty structure rather than 4 pipes that could potentially be locked. Petitioner questioned whether or not Martin Marietta Materials - Mueller Property South - Surface Limestone Mineral Extraction (Special Use) Petitioner seeks approval to establish surface limestone extraction operation on 96.921± acres. T he site is located at the southwest corner of the intersection of East 106th Street and Hazel Dell Parkway. The site is zoned S-1/Residence - Low Density. Filed by John Tiberi of Martin Marietta Materials, Inc. Martin Marietta Materials - Mueller Property South - Artificial Lake (Special Use) Petitioner seeks approval to establish an artificial lake on 96.921± acres. The site is located at the southwest corner of the intersection of East 106th Street and Hazel Dell Parkway. The site is zoned S-1/Residence - Low Density. Filed by John Tiberi of Martin Marietta Materials, Inc.