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Home My WebLink AboutCorrespondence FW: Woodhall Page 1 of2 Conn, Angelina V From: Dutcher, Dan [ddutcher@ncaa.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:52 AM To: Conn, Angelina V; Carolyn Schleif; Dorman, Jay; Rick Ripma; Rider, Kevin D; Susan Westermeier Cc: Stewart, Lisa M; Hancock, Ramona B Subject: RE: Woodhall subdivision, truck turnaround Hi Angie and Members of the Subdivision Committee. I must be in DC this evening for a meeting an regret that I will miss tonight's subcommittee meeting. I did review the agenda and offer the following: 1. Woodhall. Thanks for a "gate" proposal on my very first case back! I don't have a copy of the submission, so really cannot comment on the specifics. Angie and Ramona, please forward one. I would note, however, that the department has identified several significant issues for discussion. I also urge caution anytime a petitioner is proposing several waivers, as is the case here. Andy standards exist for a reason, and its policy must be considered carefully when a waiver is requested. That is compounded when multiple waiver requests. 2. Dapper: I see no concerns beyond those identified in the committee report. See you all in two weeks. Thanks, Dan Dutcher Vice-President for Div. III NCAA ddutcher@ncaa.org www.ncaa.org tIi Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11 :48 AM To: Carolyn Schleif; Dutcher, Dan; Dorman, Jay; Rick Ripma; Rider, Kevin D; Susan Westermeier Cc: Stewart, Lisa M; Hancock, Ramona B Subject: FW: Woodhall subdivision, truck turnaround Please see the attached truck turnaround exhibits for Woodhall Subdivision. Thanks, Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f. 317-571-2426 aconn@carmel.in.gov From: Lance Ferrell [mailto:lferrell@banning-eng.com] S~nt: Tuesday, January 29,20082:13 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Slubject: FW: Woodhall 2/5/2008 Page 1 of3 Conn, Angelina V From: Greg Hayes [grh@ca.hamiltan.in.us] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11 :07 AM To: Jeff Butz Cc: Lance Ferrell; Conn, Angelina V; Brewer, Scott I; Mark Zukerman; jb@jbcahen.com Subject: RE: Woodhall Tree Preservation Plans Jeff Thanks for calling to discuss this issue. 1 understand that your plans were complete before the utility layout was finalized and that changes are still being made to the layout and easements. I am acceptable with modifications to the landscape plan not being done until after the subdivision committee meeting because things are still in limbo. Just as long as we address this before the final landscape plan is approved and locked in by the plan commission. This all can be made to work togethei', we just need to have everyone looking at the same page to make it happen, If you have any questions, please let me know. Greg Hayes, AC, CFM Plan Reviewer Hamilton County Surveyor's Otlice One Hamilton County Square, Suite 188 Noblesville, IN 46060 Phone: (317) 776-8495 Fax: (317) 776-9628 >>> Jeff Butz <jeffbutz@sbcglobal.net> 5:40 'PM Wednesday, January 23, >>> 2008 >>> Greg, I drew these plans before the final engineering was done. After they finished we realized we had some contliets. 1 have been waiting for final comments from committee to finalize the planing details and will be making the necessary changes to accommodate your standards. 1 have been in touch with Lance and will be calling you to confirm I haven't missed anything before T prepare the final drawings. Thanks for your feedback JSButz Greg Hoyes <grh@co.hamilton.in.us> wrote: Jeff 1 have reviewed the landscape plan and I see a landscape plan with no storm sewer shown and easements not labeled. Every place we have a pipe, there appears to be landscaping directly over the proposed regulated drain. This is not in compliance with comment #8 of my preliminary plat review letter, Section 306.0 I of the Hamilton County Stonnwater Technical Standards Manual, or Indiana Code 36-9-27 -33( d). While we understand that landscaping and our regulates drain system need to co-exist in a residential development, we can't have the is:mes proposed like in this current plan. Either the storm lines need to be moved or the landscaping needs to be moved, but the easements must be separate from one another. If you have any questions, please let me kno\v. Greg Hoyes, AC, CFM Plan Reviewer Hamilton County Surveyor's Office One Hamilton County Sqnare, Suite 188 Noblesville, IN 46060 Phone: (317) 776-8495 Fax: (317) 776-9628 >>> Jeff Butz 11:55 AM Wednesday, January 23,2008 >>> Greg, please find attached the preliminary landscape plans. Please feel free to contact me directly with any questions. 1113nks JSButz 1/28/2008 ;.... Conn, Angelina V From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Brewer, Scott I Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:43 PM 'Greg Hayes' Conn, Angelina V RE: Woodhall Tree Preservation Plans Greg: Not a problem with me. Thanks Greg. Scott Brewer, City Forester Environmental Planner, DOCS City of Carmel, One civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 PH: 317-571-247B FAX: 317-571-2426 -----Original Message----- From: Greg Hayes [mailto:grh@co.hamilton.in.us] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 200B 3:15 PM To: Jeff Butz Cc: Mark Zukerman; Lance Ferrell; Brewer, Scott 1; Jeff Cohen Subject: RE: Woodhall Tree Preservation Plans Jeff I have reviewed the landscape plan and I see a landscape plan with no storm sewer shown and easements not labeled. Every place we have a pipe, there appears to be landscaping directly over the proposed regulated drain. This is not in compliance with comment #8 of my preliminary plat review letter, Section 306.01 of the Hamilton County Stormwater Technical Standards Manual, or Indiana Code 36-9-27-33(d). While we understand that landscaping and our regulates drain system need to co-exist in a residential development, we can"t have the issues proposed like in this current plan. Either the storm lines need to be moved or the landscaping needs to be moved, but the easements must be separate from one another. If you have any questions, please let me know. Greg Hoyes, AC, CFM Plan Reviewer Hamilton County Surveyor's Office One Hamilton County Square, Suite 1BB Noblesville, IN 46060 Phone: ( 317) 776 - 8495 Fax: (317) 776-9628 >>> Jeff Butz <jeffbutz@sbcglobal.net> 11:55 AM Wednesday, January 23, >>> 2008 >>> Greg, please find attached the preliminary landscape plans. Please feel free to contact me directly with any questions. Thanks JSButz Greg Hayes <grh@co.hamilton.in.us> wrote: Jeff Yes, please send me a copy of the landscape plan for review. This should avoid any surprises when we get to construction plans and we state no landscape planting in the Regulated Drain Easements. If you have any questions, please let me know. Greg Hoyes, AC, CFM Plan Reviewer Hamilton County Surveyor's Office One Hamilton County Square, Suite 188 Noblesville, IN 46060 phone: (317) 776-8495 Fax: (317) 776 - 962 8 :>:>:> "Brewer, Scott 1" 12:10 PM Tuesday, January 22, 2008 :>>:> Dear Jeff: Thank you for the plans, the meeting, and the changes you have made. As I said in the meeting, I believe all my issues have been addressed, but you may want to have Greg Hoyes go over the landscape plan because I believe the Hamilton County Surveyor's Office will fell strongly about plantings below the top of bank around the ponds and in the drainage ways. Scott Brewer, City Forester Environmental Planner, DOCS City of Carmel, One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 PH: 317-571-2478 FAX: 317-571-2426 From: Jeff Butz [mailto:jeffbutz@sbcglobaI.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 22,20086:54 AM To: sbrewer@ci.carmel.in.gov Cc: Mark Zukerman; Jeff Cohen; Jeff Butz Subject: Fwd: woodhall Scott, attached is the tree preservation plan you requested. I believe that completes the list of changes you asked me to make before you would give your blessings for Woodhall to the committee. Please let me know by end of week if there is anything else you require so I have time to prepare it. Thanks JSButz Note: forwarded message attached. Jeffrey S. Butz Landscapes Unlimited 5155 West 106th Street Zionsville, Indiana 46077 (0)317-873-5886 (F)317-873-91l6 2 Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V ~,_...^...,~~__,~,~~~,...."". ,~._.",__"~___",""""",,,,~~_'n..-,,-~,,"~~-""'"''''~'-~CC,->-,,,~~-~'="---~."'~"""~~'-""'~'~-~"-.'_''''''~~'~'~~~~~'~''~"-'=''<"",",-,-~ From: Brewer, Scott I Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12: 10 PM To: 'Jeff Butz'; sbrewer@ci.carmel.in.gov Cc: Mark Zukerman; Jeff Cohen; Conn, Angelina V; Greg Hoyes [grh@co.hamilton.in.us] Subject: RE: Woodhall Tree Preservation Plans Dear Jeff: Thank you for the plans, the meeting, and the changes you have made. As I said in the meeting, I believe all my issues have been addressed, but you may want to have Greg Hayes go over the landscape plan because I believe the Hamilton County Surveyor's Office will fell strongly about plantings below the top of bank around the ponds and in the drainage ways. Scot! Brewer, City Forester Environmental Planner, DOCS City of Carmel, One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 PH: 317-571-2478 FAX: 317-571-2426 ~~''''-C;'"c:cc_'C~cc:__.-_-=,".~.~~.~~~,~'~-''''~~.~~''''''''''''~''''"''"'~;~-"" ~____.__,'_.-c.,_,,,,,,,~~,,,,,_~,~~~~_,~~,,,^,,,,__~.,,,,,,,o,,,-~~~~--cc-_m-c:.'.-~'.-- __.._...__.~..~._,~..~,..~'~..~.mu,~, From: Jeff Butz [mailto :jeffbutz@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 20086:54 AM To: sbrewer@ci.carmel.in.gov Cc: Mark Zukerman; Jeff Cohen; Jeff Butz Subject: Fwd: Woodhall Scott, attached is the tree preservation plan you requested. I believe that completes the list of changes you asked me to make before you would give your blessings for Woodhall to the committee. Please let me know by end of week if there is anything else you require so I have time to prepare it. Thanks JSButz Note: forwarded message attached. Jeffrey S. Butz Landscapes Unlimited 5155 West 106th Street Zionsvil1e, Indiana 46077 (0)317-873-5886 (F)317-873-9116 1/22/2008 Conn. Angelina V From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Greg Hayes [grh@co.hamilton.in.us] Wednesday, January 16,20084:16 PM Conn, Angelina V; schleif@indy.rr.com Lance Ferrell; Brewer, Scott I; Mark Zukerman Woodhall Preliminary Plat Review Attachments: 07093_ ExzBasinsO 11508_ A. pdf 07093_ExzBasinsOl 1508_A.pdf (1... Angie and Carol since the drainage issue between Windemere and Woodhall had been brought to light, I have looked into the issue and communicated w~th the engineer to come up with a change that should help the drainage issue in Windemere. The engineer for woodhall has changed the drainage system to pick up all the drainage runoff from Woodhall, with the exception of the 2 acre nature preserve area. This will result in a decrease of 5.5 acres that currently drains toward windemere (see attached) and this results in a significant decrease to the flow to the Windemere drainage system. While the 2 acre nature preserve area will remain a direct runoff from the Woodhall site into Windemere, with the vegetation and land use it will remain in,the discharge is very minor and is in compliance with our required developed drainage release rates for the 10 year storm event but is double what we would allow for the 100 year storm event (see red text below from engineer). Our recommendation is to leave this nature preserve area as direct runoff, as the discharge is relatively small and it would cause substantial damage to that area to be able to capture all the runoff from the nature preserve. Also, this area is accounted for with the design of Windemere and should not cause any burden to that drainage system. The table below summarizes the allowable, existing, and proposed nature preserve discharges contributing to the east. The nature preserve are less than the allowable discharges. The contributing drainage west of Windemere subdivision is approximately 7.5 ac. The Woodhall development would reduce drainage west of Windemere to 2.0 ac or by approximately 70%. The lO~yr storm for the existing conditions has a discharge of 4.5 cfs. The 100-yr storm for the proposed nature preserve has a discharge of 1.2 cfs, which is 70% lower than the 10-yr existing discharge. Discharge to the East Allowable Existing 10-year 0.8 4.5 laO-year cfs 2.3 cfs 12.1 cfs cfs Nature Preserve Allowable 0.2 cfs 1. 2 0.2 cfs cfs 0.6 cfs While this is still preliminary plat and complete detailed information will not be submitted until construction plan review, this does give me enough information that I can make this work when we get to that point. I do not have any issues with this being approved now so it can move on to the next step in the process. Carol ~ While this will help the issues in Windemere, I would not go as far as saying it will fix the problem. Some of the problem is cause by Windemere residents and only they can help themselves with that issue. If in the future people don't think the drainage system is working properly, have them call us and file a drainage complaint, then we will investigate further. I stipulate that with the storm system not working properly, not a swale being blocked so the runoff can not get to the storm system. If you have any questions, please let me know. Greg Hayes 1 .. , ,~ ;--~ , -.~,.- I ( ~:.,~ - .~~- ., I:' ,\ \ \ ~ ~ 1. -... , ........\ ~,,- ";::;1 .J ~>- -' ... J '"'\ ~ '{-~l S. \ ( . J". .11 - "'~)~/J.:; ~.' ~r--_" ;.. ) J . Ie I . .... I ~ 1 \- 1 I ..r -f 'I ~ 1 . . I I .d'- J .....1 _.~ - .~ -'f=1~'''' -=. ;;; = -- ';.,.. ~ t -"'" J I,,: 100" Ie ) z o - en - > - Q Ed =- U) W Ill:: W :i w Q Z i J / Drawn By: T J Briones Date: 01/11/08 Project Number: 07093 Scale: 1"=100' Page: 1 of 1 853 COLUMBIA ROAD, SUITE #fOf PlAINF"JELO, IN 48f88 BUS: (3f7) 707-3700, FAX: (317) 707.3800 E-MAIL: Bannlng(}BannlngEnllin9sring.com W~8.. ww.... 8annnlngEnglneering. com Page 1 of ) Conn, Angelina V From: Sent: To: Conn, Angelina V Friday, January 11, 2008 11 :04 AM 'Calderon, Joseph' 'Jeffrey Cohen'; 'ZUK444@aol.com'; 'Jeff Butz'; Dorman, Jay; 'Carolyn Schleif'; 'Rick Ripma'; Stewart, Lisa M; Hollibaugh, Mike P Subject: Woodhall subdivision - pedestrian path language Attachments: example.pdf; laurel Ridge landscape.pdf Cc: Hi, Joe: the committee asked that I research further the gates requirement that states "public pedestrian and bike access to and through the site must be provided without obstruction". An excerpt of the meeting minutes from the 01/03/2006 committee meeting regarding the ordinance amendment for criteria for gated communities is below: Joe Calderon asked jf it was enough to have it in the Covenants and Restrictions that these are private streets and that the Homeowner's Association would be assessing the Homeowner's annually to provide maintenance for their maintenance. He clarified that the petitioners would not be required to produce a budget. He clarified that as far as public pedestrian access, as listed in 6.03.26 number 1, the expectation was to aI/ow the public entry via bike path or pedestrian walk path. He said that it wouldn't truly be gated except from automobiles. He said that he thought that by providing the paths around the perimeter for continuity that would be enough. Discussion ensued about availability and access in proposed gated communities. Rick Ripma said that the reality is that gating is there for privacy but also for security. He said that he didn't think that there would be many joggers or bicyclists robbing homes. He said that the gates only provided a certain amount of security anyway. Also, an excerpt of the Meeting minutes from the 03/21/2006 plan commission meeting regarding the ordinLlnce amendment for criteria for gated communities is below: Carol Schleif asked about the language regarding obstruction for pedestrian access at gated communities. Rick Ripma responded that there would be no gate on the pedestrian access. Mark Rattermann made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05120002 GA, Z-486-06, as amended (as amended by City Council) Patch VI - Ordinance Amendment, seconded by Leo Dierckman, Approved 8 in favor, one opposed (Ripma.) It is clear that the ordinance amendment was drafted to mean that anybody could enter and pass through - not just residents. All neighborhoods must be accessible parts of the bike/trans system, regardless if they want, or have, gates for cars. Also, it is very anti- accessible to older residents, and the handicapped fo open/maneuver through a pedestrian gate - regardless where these people live. . ..There are "clever" ways to do pedestrian/bike entrances, and not advertise it. Please see attached exhig.Lt. Also, a rendering found in the Laurel Ridge subdivision file is attached, which shows public pedestrian and bike access to and through the site without obstruction. Sincerely, Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032. p.317-571-2417 f. 317-~71-2425 aconn@carmel.in.qov 1/1 ) 12008 Page 1 of2 Conn, Angelina V From: Ellison, Christopher M Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:27 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Ellison, Christopher M Subject: RE: Woodhall- fire truck turnaround I was able to view the animated version. The only other thing that I can think of after viewing it is that mail boxes, landscaping, ect. would need to be set back enough to allow the front end of the truck to pass through the cul-de-sac without striking an obstruction. Thanks, Lt. Chris Ellison Deputy Fire Marshal Carmel Fire Department Frain: Conn( Angelina V Sent: Thursday, January 10, 20084: 18 PM To: Ellison, Christopher M Subject: RE: Woodhall- fire truck turnaround Please See attached, You will probably need windows media player. Have a great evening, Ang'ie Con n, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426 aconrl@carmel.irl.gov From: Ellison, Christopher M Sent: Thursday, January 10, 20084:16 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Cc: Ellison, Christopher M Subject: RE: Woodhall- fire truck turnaround I would like to see the animated version. Please send it to me. Per our phone conversation today along with the PDF file that you provided me showing a ladder truck drivirig through the subdivision, It looks to me that we would not have a problem unless someone is parking on the road. If there is a parked vehicle in the cul-de-sac we would not be able to turn around. Thanks, Lt. Chris Ellison Deputy Fire Marshal Carmel Fire Department Froin: Conn, Angelina V SenhThursday, January 10, 20084:03 PM To: Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Woodhall- fire truck turnaround Please see attached. 1/11/2008 Conn. Angelina V From: Sent: To: Subject: David Lucas [del@co.hamilton.in.us] Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:20 AM Conn, Angelina V Re: 106th street expansion? east of towne rd Angie, Currently there are no planned improvements for that section of 106th Street. Sincerely, David E. Lucas HCHD Staff Engineer/Road 1700 South lOth Street Noblesville, IN 46060 (317) 773-7770 - Office (317) 776-9814 - Fax e-mail: del@co.hamilton.in.us website: www.co.hamilton.in.us >>> "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@c"armel.in.gov> 1/9/2008 11:20 AM >>> Hi David - the plan commission subcommittee asked me to find out if there any 106th street expansions or improvements planned for 106th street, just east of towne rd. and if so, when will they occur? This relates to the Woodhall subdivision. Please let me know so I can relay the info to them. Thanks~ Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p. 317-571-2417 f. 317-571-2426 aconn@carmel.in.gov 1 Conn. Angelina V From: Sent: To: Subject: Greg Hoyes [grh@co.hamilton.in.us] Wednesday, January 09,20083:33 PM Conn, Angelina V; David Lucas Re: Woodhall subdivision at 106th street, east of towne rd. \ ~ 1 -- 01~ \J0{'c~, ~VJ \:)~>j1r ,s w.t 1) ,/ Skt~",(L. CJJ~i~,~\ t .- U'~ f{Ov' Angie Based on some discussion with a resident of Widemere, we are addressing some concerns with the drainage. Usually, we do not have enough information to truly deal with the drainage at preliminary plat and we focus more when in gets to CDs. But since I have been working with this resident, we are looking at things a little more in depth at this point. I will be meeting with this resident, Scott Brewer, the developer, ahd the engineer on Friday afternoon to look at this more. This likely will generate some more information and more detail being added at this stage, but nothing too ffiajor. Other then that, we have no problems with the preliminary plat and project getting approval. If you have any questions, please let me know. Greg Hayes HCSO Plan Reviewer >>> "Conn, Angelina V" <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> 10:20 AM Wednesday, January >>> 09, 2008 >>> Good morning, Gentleman: Per the plan commission subdivision committee's request, please let me know if you are satisfie~ with the layout of this subdivision regarding the drainage and street layout/road right of way. Much discussion occurred last night about the drainage of water toward Windemere subdivision to the east, and how common area C did not have any type of drainage directed away from windemere. Also, please let me know if you have any outstanding issues with this project or its design. Attached is a link to the plan commission info packet, if you need it: http://cocdocs.ci.carmel.in.us/weblinkjDocView.aspx?id~257188 Thank you. \\ \\ \\ \ . \ \ \ \ \City of Ca.rmel, IN 46032 \ \ :. 317-571-2417 \ \OIm@carmeJ. in .gov \ Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services ~ Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor f. 317-571-2426 1 Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V From: Ron Farrand [RFarrand@ccs.k12.in.us] Sent: Wedn'esday, January 09, 2008 12:41 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: Woodhall subdivision at 106th street, east of towne rd. Angie: Our guidelines stipUlate that we will not enter cul-de-sacs. In addition the depth of this cul-de-sac is less than 1/2 mile which is within our allowable distance for students to walk to a bus stop. It will be our intention to locate the stop location for buses serving any students residing in this development at the entrance to the development at l06th Street: The applicant states that the "guardhouse" can act as a bus stop. This implies that the bus will enter the cul-de-sac; as noted above we will not enter the cul-de-sac. Additionally, the radii of the "round-a-bout" at the gate house are not sufficient for a standard size school bus to maneuver safely. It is imperative that sidewalks be provided for safe student walking path to the bus stop location. Ron Farrand, Jr. Director, Facilities and Transp0l1atioIl Carmel Clay Schools rfarranddvccs. k12. in. us 317-815-3962 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any <jttachments, is lor the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibitelJ. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail 91l~~t!e~trgtll!L<:gp~_soJ.lhe or.igjna.!!!l(;>!!:>"'l9~_,c_________",^_'_'_________d. __~d_ ..._d~___ ... ____~~~ . . m ....__._.m From: Cbnn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:12 AM To: Ron Farrand; Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Woodhall subdivision at 106th street, east of towne rd. Good morning, Gentleman: Per the plan commission subdivision committee's request, please let me know if your organizations are satisfied with the layout of this subdivision and the cul-de~sac design, in regards to school bus and fire truck turnaround. Also, please let me know if you have any outstanding issues with this project or its design. Attached is a link to the plan commission info packet, if you need it .httQ.:fkQ..QgQ~_~-,9Lc;;_Qr:m~.LLI)_J,J_$lwe.bJio~LQQgVi~'N'fts.p.x? 19_::~QZ_la$. Thank you. Angie Conn, Planning Administrator- Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426 aconn@carmel.in.gov 1/9/2008 Page 10f2 Conn, Angelina V From: Sent To: Cc: Matt Griffin [mgriffin@buckingham-co.com] Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11 :45 AM Conn, Angelina V Holmes, Christine B; Keeling, Adrienne M Subject: RE: gated communities - recent ordinance amendment Attachments: example.pdf It was drafted to mean that anybody Gould enter and pass through - not just residents. All neighborhoods must be accessible parts of the bike/trans system, regardless if they want, or have, gates. Also, it is very anti-accessible to older residents, and the handicapped to open/maneuver through a ped gate - regardless where these folks live. I guess it could be argued that if the street is private, then the sidewalks etc. could be too. . .. but the intent was to leave it open so that it could add to the community network of bike/ped transit options. The street, and sidewalks need to be built to city requirements, even if they are going to be private - as at some point the association will most likely petition to have it turhed into ROW (and the mayor's policies are to accept all ROW grants). I hope this helps. When I was there we had 2 subdivisions that had gates, and permitted free flow ped traffic on either side of the gates There are "clever" ways to do it, and not advertise it (the City gets the connection, and the developer gets to sort of hide the "openness"). A chicane design (as attached) is what some folks used. Good Luck! Matthew Griffin, AICP Development Manager Buckingham Companies 333 N. Pennsylvania Street, 10th fioor Indianapolis, IN 46204 p. 317.974.1234 x216 f. 317.974.1238 .l!!gr.I.l:fl!1.@9..l!.g.~il]gl}_~r:D_~Q.g.Q..n.:! From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:31 AM To: Holmes, Christine B Cc: Matt Griffin; Keeling, Adrienne M Subject: gated communities - recent ordinance amendment Hi, there! I have a question about one of the criteria for a gated community that was adopted into the zoning ordinance back when matt worker here. It states: public pedestrian and bike access to and through the site must be provide without obstruction. Does this mean that a subdivision can have a brick wall around it, but must have openings to the public pedestrian and bike access get traverse within the subdivision, OR Does it mean that the subdivision only must have a pedestrian path that runs in front of it, along the street, and there are no public access gates into the subdivision for bikes & walkers. The reason I ask is this - Woodhall subdivision is proposing mini gates/doors for pedestrian/bikers of the subdivision, so that only the residents of the subdivision can enter/exit the gate. Any comments you have would be greatly appreciated. I will also look at the meeting minutes of this ordinance amendment. 1/9/2008 ro ~ ...c +-' ro 0.. "0 ()) a.. Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V From: Duncan, Gary R Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11 :23 AM To: Conn, Angelina V; 'David Lucas' Subject: RE: 106th street expansion? e.ast of towne rd I know the City cannot do any such work to 106th Street until 2012 under the terms of the annexation" Gary R Duncan Jr., P.E. Assistant City Engineer City of Cannel Department of Engineering One Civic Square Carmel, Indiana 46032 (317) 571-244] (3]7) 571-2439 (fax) gduncan@carmel.in.gov -----Original Message----- From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:21 To: 'David Lucas' Cc: Duncan, Gary R Subject: 106th street expansion? east of towne rd Hi David - the plan commission subcommittee asked me to find out if there any 106th street expansions or improvements planned for 1061h street, just east of towne rd. and if so, when will they occur? This relates to the Woodhall subdivision. Please let me know so I can relay the info to them. Thanks! Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426 aconn@carmel.in.gov 1/912008 ...~- .. Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11: 10 AM To: 'Calderon, Joseph' Cc: 'Jeffrey Cohen'; 'ZUK444@aol.com'; 'Jeff Butz'; Dorman, Jay; 'Carolyn Schleif; 'Rick Ripma' Subject: RE: woodhall subdivision - fence language for commitments Here is the more detailed language in their PUD ordinance, within the site requirement matrix exhibit Fences shall not be chain link or coated chain link. Perimeter fences enclosing Jarger area on a lot, such as a rear yard, shall be wrought iron or black wrought iron in appearance. Provided however, that the other forms of fencing, such as wooden shadow box fencing, shall be allowed to screen smaller areas, such as patios and hot tubs. Angie From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:02 AM To: 'Calderon, Joseph' Cc: 'Jeffrey Cohen'i 'ZUK444@aol,com'i 'Jeff Butz'i Dorman, Jay; 'Carolyn Schleifi 'Rick Ripma' Subject: woodhall subdivision - fence language for commitments Hi, Joe: the committee asked that I send you the language that the developers ofWestmont were asked to use when limiting fence type. An excerpt ofthe Meeting minutes from the OS/21/2007 committee meeting for Westmont POO is as follows: The issue of fences was discussed. Steve Pittman indicated that wrought iron fencing or fencing that looks like wrought iron would be acceptable. The end result was this phrase added to the final info packet and committed to: Fences Provisions were added requiring that perimeter fences enclosinglarge areas on a lot such as a rear yard be black wrought iron or black wrought iron in appearance. Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN46032 p,317-571-2417 f. 317-571-2426 aconn@carmel,in,gov 1/9/2008 n== ~ r::= CJ c:::J CJ ~ m=; t:= c=; E:.2 c=J B . l:== c= ~ -=:=" c=' c= EXIllBIT SITE REQUIREMENT MATRIX "I DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS Minimum Minimum Minimum Lot Minimum Front Yard Minimum Minimum Minimum Minimum Maximum Minimum Lot Width at Lot Frontage at SetbacK Side Yard Aggregate Side Separation Rear Building Square Building Street Setback Yard Setback Between Yard Height Footagel Line DwellfnJ!s Setback 120 ft. 16,800 sf. 40 ft. 20 ft. S ft. 20 ft. 20 ft. 20 ft. 35ft 2,400 sf. 100 ft. 12,000 sf. 40 ft. 20 ft. 5 ft. 20 ft. 20 ft. 20 ft. 3S ft. 2,000 sf. 80 ft. 9,600 sf. 40 ft. 20 ft. for Dwellings with a 5 ft. 10 ft. 10 ft. 20 ft. 35 ft. 1,700 sf. courtyard side-entry garage, and 25 ft. for all other Dwellings. ARCIDTECTURAL STANDARDS - APPLICABLE TO ALL DWELLINGS Permitted Requirec! Garage Type Chimneys . Porch Roojline Fences Building Window Materials OoeninQs Masonry, Wood, 2 per level, per Court-, side-, or front-loading. Masonry, At least six feet Primary Roof Fences shall not be Cementitious fa~ade. 3 All Front Loading garages must be extended deep, consistent shall have 6/12 chain-link or Board, Synthetic windows shall recessed at least 10' back from the fully to materials/desifl pitch.7l2" coated chain-link. Stucco, and be fully framed primary frontfa'Yade of the ground and with Dwelling overhang after Perimeter fences, EIFS2 and trimmed Dwelling.4 Garages may be above installation of enclosing large attached to the Dwelling or not ridge lines siding. areas on a lot, such attached to the Dwelling. All as a" rear yard, shall garages shall be a minimum of a be black wrought two (2) car garage, and tandem iron orbalck garages are prohibited. wrought iron in appearance.8 lExclusive of porches, terraces, and garages. 2The exterior building materials and architectural style established by the front elevation of the Dwelling shall be continued around the side and rear elevations. 3Provided, however, that (i) windows shall not be required on the sides offront loaded garages and (ii) a vent may be substituted for a window on a gable. 4Front Loaded Garages are not permitted on Dwellings located on Lots which are eighty (80) feet in width at the building line. 5Provided, however, that chimneys which protrude from inside the Dwelling may also have cementitious board, synthetic stucco and/or EIFS as their exterior building material. 6porches are not required on all Dwellings. Ifnoporch is provided, the entryway should be covered and deep enough to provide shelter at the front door, as well as provide an appropriate and adequate level of detail. 7In order to pennit diversity in architectural style, this requirement shall apply only to a majority of residences. " 8Provided, however, that other forms of fencing, such as wooden shadow box fencing, shall be allowed to screen smaller areas, such as patios and hot tubs. Legend ft. - Feet sf. - Square Feet H:lBecky\Zoning & Real Estate\PLATNM\Irsay\Dwelling Matrix 050107.doc Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:58 AM To: Calderon, Joseph Cc: Jeffrey Cohen; ZUK444@aol.com; Jeff Butz; Dorman, Jay; 'Carolyn Schleif; 'Rick Ripma' Subject: woodhall subdivision - defining custom builder Hi, Joe: the committee asked that I send you the language that the developers ofWestmont were asked to use when defining a qualified builder (custom builder), An excerpt of the Meeting minutes from the 03/29/2007 committee meeting forWestmont PUD is as follows: A lengthy discussion was held regarding the definition of custom homes and custom homebuilders. The Committee requested that "custom" be clearly defined. Publicly traded companies would not, in Committee opinion fall into the custom builder category. Several companies and builders were discussed. The Cornmittee lovas quite clear that production builders would not be appropriate for this area. The petitioners outlined some of the builders they were expecting to build within Westmont. Most of these builders build less than 100 homes per year. Sameness of home design was also discussed. The Committee asked for some assurances that all the homes would not be alike. Steve Pittman indicated that they will have a velY stringent review process, and that with the architectural guidelines that will be in place, he is confident that this will not be an issue, One suggestion was to have a "builder guild" of 1 0-12 builders. By making that commitment we will not let any other builders in, but we will sell to the general public with the stipulation that they must choose one of the guild builders. This would give the public a choice of whom to build with. Another stipulation being considered is that a home must be built within 18 months of purchase of the lot. A final determination was made that it would be possible for one builder to build all 80 fl. lots, although the builder would still have to build less than 1 00 homes ver vear, All other lots will be built by multiple custom homebuilders, but will be restricted to a certain number of lots and who also build less than 100 homes per year. The end result was this phrase added to the final info packet and committed to: Qualified Builders: Revisions were included to provide that the only builders allowed to build within Westmant are builders which have built fewer than 100 homes per year for the last 5 years. Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f,317-571-2426 acorln@carmel.irl.gov 1/9/2008 Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Wednesday, January 09,200810:21 AM To: 'Greg Hayes'; 'David Lucas' Subject: Woodhall subdivision at 106th street, east of towne rd. Good morning, Gentleman: Per the plan commission subdivision committee~s request, please let me know if you are satisfied with the layout of this subdivisJon regarding the drainage and street layouUroad right of way. Much discussion occurred last night about the drainage of water toward Windemere subdivision to the east, and how common area C did not have any type of drainage directed away from windemere. Also, please let me know if you have any outstanding issues with this project or its design. Attached is a link to the plan commission info packet, if you need it: bllg:lJcocdocs.ci.carmel.in.us/weblink/DocView.asRx? id=257188 Thank you. Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426 aGOnn@carmel.in.goll 1/9/2008 Page 1 of 1 Con'n, Angelina V From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Wednesday, January 09,200810:12 AM To: 'Ron Farrand'; Ellison, Christopher M Subject: Woodhall subdivision at 106th street, east of towne rd, Good morning, Gentleman: Per the plan commission subdivision committee's request, please let me know if your organizations are satisfied with the layout of this subdivision and the cul-de-sat: design, in regards to school bus and fire truck turnaround. Also, please let me know if you have any outstanding issues with this project or its design. Attached is a link to the plan commission info packet, if you need it: http://cocdocs.cLcarmel.in.us/weblink/DocView.aspx? id=257188 Thank you. Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic'Square. 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426 aconn@carmel.in.gov 1/9/2008 Page 1 of 2 Conn, Angelina V From: Ron & Carol Schleif [schleif@indy.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:04 PM To: Conn, Angelina V Subject: RE: woodhall subdivision - defining custom builder Angie, Just for the record, custom homes are ones that are designed and built for a specific site, and the plans are not re-used multiple times. I agree that this is what production home builders do, and that is what we don't want. The 100 homes per yeal' is a measurement of volume by a builder, not whether a home is custom or not Any builder tan and do reuse plans multiple times in a development and still be under the 100 homes per year limit. (Because of this, we have already included a definition for custom homes in the Design Guidelines.) In the meantime, for Woodhall maybe we could word it such that "no two hoUses are alike in with regard to elevations and massing." If they are truly custom homes, this shouldn't be a problem for the petitioner. Also, Scott Brewer, Greg Hayes (county surveyor), myself, and hopefully the Woodhall folks are going to meet on Friday at 1 :30 on Friday at the site to look at drainage. Greg is still in not willing to let them ignore drainage on any part of their site. I also found out why they could not give us a good reason for not taking care of their own rainwater run-off: Apparently the owner has stipulated that the preservation area must not be built upon, as a condition of the sale. It has nothing to do with saving trees or open space. They also said that they plan to have a garden there, so they didn't want to take care of drainage there. In this case, they should probably hire a landscape architect. Jeff Butz at Landscapes Unlimited is not licensed as an LA. I'll suggest it to them Friday and see what happens. Could you pass this along to Rick & Jay? Thanks! Carol -----Original Message----- From: Conn, Angelina V [mailto:Aconn@carmel.in.gov] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:58 AM To: Calderon, Joseph Cc: Jeffrey Cohen; ZUK444@aol.com; Jeff Butz; Dorman, Jay; Carolyn Schleif; Rick Ripma Subject: woodhall subdivision - defining custom builder Hi, Joe: the committee asked that I send you the language that the developers ofWestmont were asked to use when defining aqualiJiecl builder (custom builder). An excerpt of the Meeting minutes from the 03/29/2007 committee meeting faT Westmont PUD is as follows: A lengthy discussion was held regarding the definition (l custom homes and CUstO/1I homebuilders. The Committee requested theit "custom" be clear~y defined. Public~}i traded companies would not, in Commillee opinion fall into the custOll1 builder categOl:V Several companies and builders were discussed The COlJunittee was quite clear that production builders would not be appropriate.for this area. Thepetitioners outlined sonle of the builders the)i were expecting lO build Ivithin ~Vestmont. lvfost. of these builders build less than 100 homes per year. Sameness of hOJ7le design Hl{lS also discussed. Ihe Committee asked for SOllie Clssitrances that allt.he homes would not be alike. Steve Pittman indicated that they will have a very stringent review process, and that }vith the architectural guidelines that will be in place, he is confident that this will not he an issue. One suggestion was to have a "builder guild" of I O~12 builders. By making that commitment we lvill not Ie! any other builders in, but we will selllO the general public with the stipulation that they must choose one of the guild builders. This "vould give the puhlic a choice o}\1'l1om to build with. Another stipulation being considered is that a home nlUst be built within 18 months olpurchase of the lot. 1/10/2008 -- "Your Project is Our Priority" DELIVERY TRANSMITTAL DATE: 01/02/08 JOB NO.: 07093 TO: Angie Conn, Planning Administrator City of Cannel Dept. of Community Services I Civic Square, 3rt! Floor Carmel, IN 46032 317-571-2417 Mail Fed Ex Customer Pick-up X Delivered By: Banning PROJECT: Woodhall Lane SllBMITTED: 1) One (1) Landscape Plan 2) J) 4) COMivIENTS: IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS TRA.NSMlTTAI" PLEASE GIVE M-B A CALL AT 707-3712. THANK YOU. Lance Ferrell Banning Engineenng, P.C. . 853 Columbia Road, Suite 101 . Plainfield, IN 46168 Phone (317) 707-3700 . Fax.' (317) 707-3800 . E-mail. banning@BanningEngineeringcom City of Carmel IJEP i\JZTMENT OF COMMIJNITY SERVICES \ \ \. / ""'.!ND t A'W~/ December 7,2007 Lance Ferrell Banning Engineering 853 ColumbiaRd.. ste 101 Plainfield, IN 46168 RE: Woodhall Subdivision Dear Mr. Ferrell: The following letter represents conm1ents for this project specifically addressing the area of altemative transportation. I have reviewed the revised drawings November 30, 2007 and offer the following comments: ALTERr..rATIVE TR-rnSPORTATIONREVIE\" COMMENTS 1) The Alternative Transportation Plan requires the construction of a I 0' asphalt path along the entire frontage of I 06lh St. Please revise the plans to include and label this path. We request that all responses to our comments be provided in writing. Failure to provide written responses may result in delay of the review process. It is critical that this office be made aware of all modification made on the plans being re-submittcd, particularly if any such changes are considered "new" or fall outside of our previous reviews. Please provide revised plans indicating all revisions. Please notify us of any changes and specifically state any changes, including changes resulting tram Plan Commission, Special Studies or other committee meetings. The Department of Community Services reserves the right to provide additional comments based on subsequent re views. If you have questions, please contact me at 571-2417. Sincerely, ~. ~ //-/ V~ ! ---------- David Littlejohn Alternative Transportation Coordinator Department of Community Services cc: Angie Conn, Department of Community Services Engineering Department Review Project File Page 1 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CAR1rIEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 /' "Your Project is Our Priority" November 30, 2007 RI.t"C'~" r.~,. L:i . ../ ' '. , . . '- " :-u DEe Mr. David Littlejohn City of Carmel One Civic Square Carmel, IN 46032 Do.rr:: ,..gfJ ' , ~. . f,.~ r. __...,1 . ..~.' , '-'-- RE: WOODHALL SUBDIVISION Dear David: I have received and reviewed your letter on the above referenced job. We have also been thorough TAC to hear everyone's concerns and hopefully address everything at once. At this time we have addressed all of your concerns or comments and would like to resubmit. 1. We have added 10' asphalt path to the west side of entrance which was moved towards the east due to some concerns about site distances. We then added short 5' asphalt path to east side of the said entrance to match into the existing path in .front of Windemere subdivision. 2. Added ADA ramps at cross walks. Lance . F ell Project Manager CC: Jeff Cohen - JB Cohen Realty Corp. Banning Engineering, FC. 0 853 Columbia Road, Suite 101 0 Plainfield, IN 46168 Phone: (317) 707-3700 0 Fax: (317) 707-3800 0 E-mail: banning@BanningEngineering,com December 5, 2007 "Your Project is Our Priority" /to,::-Jj~:~,~ /':;Y ~ " \{.tCt.~tU _ rrr.[ r.: '\.'~ ~~c - ~ ~ \J(JC~ Mrs. Angie Conn Planning Administrator, Dcpt. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning City of Carmel One Civic Square Cmmel, IN 46032 RE: WOODHALL SUBDIVISION Dear Angie: I have received and reviewed your DOCS emailletter on the above referenced job. We have also been thorough TAC to hear everyone's concerns and hopefully address everything. At this time we have addressed an of your concerns or comments and would like to resubmit. Comment Action Taken 1. Added to the plans. 2.-7. Joe Caldron of Bose McKinney & Evans LLP will provide. 8. Shown on sheet 3 of3 of the plans 9. Enclosed with this packet 10. Joe Caldron of Bose McKinney & Evans LLP will provide. 11. Joe Caldron of Bose McKinney & Evans LLP will provide. 12. This is shown and dimensioned on the plans. 13. This is shown and noted on the plans. 14. This is shown and labeled on the plans. 15. Jeff Butz will be providing the landscape plans and has been working with Scott Brewer. 16. That area will be common area with tree preservation. 17. Jeff Butz will be finalizing the details of the wall and gate. 18. Please find enclosed. 19. We have cleared this area up on the drawings. 20. The length to the cul-de-sac is 1220 and shown on the title sheet. 21. We will provide them with a landscape plan and discuss in details. This wi11100k like Laurel Ridge. 22. We have added to the plans. 23. This is a private road but we have used a program called auto turn to verify vehicular maneuvering. We can forward you a media file if needed. 24. I believe that we have addressed the concerns from TAC. Sincere CC: Jeff Cohen - JB Cohen Realty Corp. Banning Engineering, P.c. a 853 Columbia Road, Suite 101 . Plainfield, IN 46168 Phone: (317) 707-3700 a Fax: (317) 707-3800 . E-mail: banning@BanningEngineering.com parking lots from the Miscellaneous category ofthe Table to the Transportation and Conununication Category and add private parking areas as an accessory use to Transportation and Communication categories. The changes are as they were presented at the public healing at the last Plan Commission meeting- they were only separated from the Michigan Road Amendment. Department Comments, Matt Griffin. The Department is recommending forwarding to the City Council with a positive recommendation. Rick Ripma reported for the Subdivision Committee and concurred with comments made by Adrienne and the Department. Rick Ripma made formal motion to forward Docket No. 06030009 OA, Use Table Amendment to the City Council with a positive recommendation, seconded by Leo Dierckman, Approved 9-0. 61 Docket No. 05120002 OA: Z~486-06, as amended (as amended by City Council) Patch VI - Ordinance Amendment The applicant seeks to Amend Chapter 6: Standards of Design and Chapter 9: Plat Certificates, Deed of Dedication of the Carmel Subdivision Control Ordinance. The applicant seeks to Amend Chapter 3: Definitions; Chapter 5: S-l/Residence District; Chapter 23F: Cannel Drive - Range Line Road Overlay Zone; Chapter 25: Additional Use Regulations and Chapter 25.07: Sign Ordinance of the Cannel Zoning Ordinance. Filed by the Carmel Department of Community Services. Adrienne Keeling appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. This item, named Patch VI, went through the Plan Conunission and forwarded to the City Council. However, due to some amendments made at the City Council level, it was returned to the Commission for final approval. .~ The packet contains. language that has been clarified and amended by the Council and is ~'\) recommended for approval at this time. , ('~ ' ~~ Department Comments, Matt Griffin: Nothing fmiher at this time. ( X CO} ~ ~>.c \ Mark Rattermann noted that these are relatively small changes in the Amendment. Carol Schleif aSked about the language regarding obstruction for pedestrian access at gated communities. -r ::> Rick Ripma responded that there would be no gate on the pedestrian access. - '--- S:!P lanCommissionIMinutes/PlanCommission200612006mar21 27 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARIvlEL, INDIANA 46032 317 /571-2417 Mark Rattennann made formal motion to approve Docket No. 05120002 OA, Z-486-06, as amended (as amended by City Council) Patch VI - Ordinance Amendment, seconded by Leo Dierckman, Approved 8 ih favor, one opposed (Ripma.) J. New Business 1J \pOCket No. 06020015 ADLS: Evan Lurie Building - Parcel 21 ''F:he applicant seeks to create a 4 story mixed use building on).4 acres. T6\ site is located at 30 West Main 8t. and is zoned BI within the Old Town Overlay FileCl by Kevin Sellers ofCSO Schenkel Shultz for the C/rmel Redevelopment Co~sion. / T'\,'___ '\ ./' Mike Hollibaugh, Direct€lr of Communtiy Services appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also presen Was Les OIds, Director of the C~el Redevelopment Commission. / / . This building is four-stories a contains 29,000 squar7leet. The first two floors are art gallery! commercial use and the top two oars contain four, tWo-story condominiums. The first floor retail has clear glass, a Main Street entr ce and a second{ry entrance off of the pedestrian access between it and the building to the east. The rst floor squa{e footage is 3,600 square feet; the second floor is 6,300 square feet. I / . The exterior building materials are brick ld cast stone and will be a beauti ful addition to the Arts & Design district, downtown area. / / Department Report, Matt Griffin. ThelDepartm nt is recommending waiving the Rules of I Proced~e and fOIVfard ~his. on to thrCity C?unci s opposed to sendi~g it to Spec.ial Studies Commlttee. The B-1 Dlstnct does/not reqUIre DP! LS approval-thIS proposalls ADLS only. I Jeny Chomanczuk asked what pbrcentage oftbe buildin 's actually an art gallery. / Mike Hollibaugh responded that the first and second floors ar allery space. I There was discussion about waiving the Rules on this proposal wit ut having seen or reviewed the materials and proposal in/depth. Most all petitioners would be require to furnish building elevations, construction;f'naterials, building height, ete for review. I / Mike Hollibaugh stat~ that the B-1 district does have a height limitation and applied to the BZA ~6r a variance. I John Molitor sUgg/sted that ifthis item is seut to Committee, iliat the Committee be gl~n the authority to render' final approval rather than having this item return to the full Commission. / '" , Mark Rattemla.nll made formal motion to suspend the Rules of Procedure and vote on Docket No. 06020015 ADLS, Evan Lurie Building this item this evening, seconded by Leo DierckmaIl. Th~'\ vote was 5 in favor, 4 opposed (Chomanczuk, Ripma, Schleif, Torres) MOTION DENIED. S jPlan CommissionlMinuteslP lanCommission2006/2 006mar21 28 ONE CIVIC SQUARE Ci\.RI'vffiL, INDL^\NA 46032 317/571-2417 January 3,2006 Camlel Plan Conunission Subdivision Committee Minutes 051 ?O"UOL, OR -Z Lf t!J~ -0 ([J ~fThr {E?~VfVi.cr of financial guarantee would be involved in the standard listed as number 6. Rick Ripma said that in the past, the Homeowner's association was required to bring in enough money to do any roadwork or maintenance that would have been required. Joe Calderon asked if it was enough to have it in the Covenants and Restrictions that these are private streets and that the Homeowner's Association would be assessing the Homeowner's alli1ually to provide maintenance for their maintenance. He clarified thatthe petitioners would not be required to produce a budget. He clarified that as far as public pedestrian access, as listed in ~ 6.03.26 number 1, the expectation was to allow the public entry via bike path ~~p~.Qestrian walk ~ path. He said that it woulOll'TIfuly be gated except from automobiles. H..~_ sa~Q. that he thought that :::::::::::;. by providing tfie paths around the perimeter for continuity that would be enough~-'--'---- .--~ -~ -' . Discussion ensued about availability and access in proposed gated communities. -<=-- . -::J Rick Ripma said that the reality is that gating is there for pri vacy but also for security. He said that h didn't think that there. would be many joggers or bic clists robbin homes. He said that the gates only proVl e a ce am amount of security anyway. ~ ~ Joe Calderon said that he felt that, with the 60 foot stacking area, one size doesn't fit all and he wanted to remind staff of that. He asked about the 6 ft. perimeter wall height noted in number 7. Discussion ensued about maxil11lUn wall heights and the process of approving the perimeter wall height. Rick Ripma asked if the Committee and the Plan Commission could review and approve the perimeter wall height. He asked if it should be eliminated. Adrienne Keeling suggested that the perimeter wall height be subject to the approval ofthe Plan Commission and that the language be included in this ordinance. Joe Calderon said that on 6.03.27 Walls that he trunks that some wood features would be nice and recommended a change in the language to read that, "no wall or fence which abuts an arterial, parkway, or collector roadway shall be constructed primarizv of wood." Susan Westenneier asked why this provision was included. Adrienne Keeling responded that it was an attempt to avoid the alley affect. Rick Ripma said that he agreed with adding "primarily". Docket Number 05120002 OA: Patch VI, Chapter 6.03.20: Private Streets-Street Layout and Design Standards was forwarded back to the fun Plan Commission with some proposed verbiage changes relating to the Perimeter Wall Height mentioned in 6.03.26, line 7 and to 6.03.27 Walls and with unanimous consent. Page 6 ONE CIviC SQUARE CARlvIEL, INDIANA. 46032 317/571-2417 ~i", \:...:'1\.,:, . I ;~~J'il t/) /I .~ d ~, ]-0 l<t ~ ~~ ~ Q >- t. :> d ..--.J "" o 's;: ~ ~ <v '> '> S '1;\ lJ \$ ., j c"'f '';;; .~- \'{; , ~ .J ". ,j ., .\" ,- () .J,. ~.~ ", '<..~ ><; ~ e" '; \~ ..; ,__3 ) L.. i'- ,", )5 I~ J ~ ~ ',1 )"~ J ,\ .~ ) ~ J :, ,\ ~ J \\: . -;} ; City of Carmel !)F~PARTMENT' OF COMMUNJTY srm VICES \ \ \, "...,.(/l{D,!i'l!~//" October 23, 2007 Lance FelTell Banning Engineering 853 Columbia Rd., ste 101 Plainfield, IN 46168 RE: Woodhall Subdivision Dear ML Ferrell: The following letter represents cornnlehts for this project specifically addressing the area of alternative transportation. I have revie\ved the revised drawings submitted on November 14,2007 and offer the following conmlenrs: ALTERNATIVE TRA1~SPORTATJONREVIEW COMMENTS 1) The Alternative Transportation Plan requires the construction ofa 10' asphalt path along I06d1 St. Please revise the plans to include and label this path. 2) I'lcabc indicate ADA ramps at all cross walks, We request that all responses to our comments be provided ill \vriting. Failure to provide written responses may result in delay of the review process. It is critical that this office be made aware of all modilication made on the plans being re-submitted, particularly if any such changes are considered "new" or fall outside of our previous reviews. Please provide revised plans indicating all revisions. Please noti(y us of any changes and specifically state any changes, including changes resulting from Plan Commission, Special Studies or other committee meetings, The Department of Community Services reserves the right to provide additional comments based on subsequent reviews. If you have questions, please contact me at 571-2417. Sincerely, David Littlejohn Transportation Systems Coordinator Department of Cormnunity Services cc: Allg~.~ Conn, Department of Community Services Engineering Depmtment Review Project File Page I ONE crille SQUARE CiRJ'vIEL, INDIANA. 46032 317/571-2417 Page 1 of2 Conn, Angelina V r" Al'il BvA ~~, \AJo From: Holmes, Christine B Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 20073:20 PM To: Blanchard, Jim E; Boone, Rachel M.; Brennan, Kevin S (kbrennan@carmel.in.gov); Brewer, Scott I; Conn, Angelina V; DeVore, Laura B; Dolan, Veronica A; Donahue-Wold, Alexia K; Duncan, Gary R; Ellison, Christopher M; Foley, Amanda J; Hancock, Ramona B; Hohlt, William G; Hollibaugh, Mike P; Holmes, Christine B; Keeling, Adrienne M; Lillard, Sarah N; Littlejohn, David W; Mast, Darren (dmast@carmel.in.gov); Mindham, Daren; Miser, Craig; Stewart, Lisa M; Tingley, Connie S; Weddington, Trudy A. Cc: 'Calderon, Joseph' Subject: Docket Nos. Assignment: (V) Woodhall Subdivision (07100024 V, 07100025 V) I have updated the file. I have contacted the petitioner and issued the necessary Docket Number for (V) Woodhall Subdivision. It will be the following: Docket No. 07100024 V Docket No. 07100025 V Total Fee: $270.00 $83.00 $353.00 Woodhall Subdivision The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval: Docket No. 07100024 V Section 5.04.03A 40' Front Yard Setback Required, 30' requested Docket No. 07100025 V Section 5.04.03(c}(1) 30' Aggregate Side Yard Required, 20' requested The site is located on West 106th Street and is zoned S1/Single-Family Residential. Filed by Joseph Calderon of Bose McKinney & Evans, LLP for JBC1, LLC. - Petitioner, please note the following: 1. Note: This Item is not required to be on an agenda of the Technical Advisory Committee. 2. Mailed and Published Public Notice needs to occur no later than Thursday, November 1. Published notice is required within the Indianapolis Star. Note: the placement of a public hearing sign on the property is also required by the BZA Rules of Procedure, Article VI, Section 6. 3. The Proof of Notice will need to be received by this Department no later than noon, Wednesday, November 21. Failure to submit Proof of Notice by this time will result in the tabling of the petition. 4. The Filing Fee and Nine (9) Informational Packets must be delivered to BZA Secretary Connie Tingley no later than NOON. Friday, November 16. Failure to submit Informational Packets by this time will result in the automatic tabling of the petition to the December 17, 2007 agenda of the BZA. 5. This Item will appear on the November 26, 2007 agenda of the Board of Zoning Appeals under Public Hearings. 6. The petitioner will need to provide a fully filled-out Findings-of-Fact sheet for each petition the night of the meeting for the Board's use (Sheet 8). On Ballot sheets, only fill out docket number, petitioner, and date (Sheet 7). Ballot sheets must be collated. PETITIONER: refer to your instruction sheet for more details. Mr. Calderon may be reached at 317.684.5331 Department's Review Comments; petitioner. please complete the following: 1.) Make sure the public notice meeting time to the newspaper and neighbors reads 6:00 p.m. It is suggested to send the notice to the Indianapolis Star newspaper by Noon, two days prior to the printing deadline (317-444-7163 or email: publicnoticeS@indystar.com). 2.) Provide filled out Notice of Public Hearing (page 5 of the application). 3.) Provide filled out and notarized Petitioner's Public Notice Affidavit (page 6 of the application). 4.) Provide adjacent property owners list 5.) Please provide filled out and notarized placement of public notice sign affidavit. 10/19/2007 Il.. 0:: o l} l- f- .J 1 w IY ~\\~~ , z OJ I o u Zf\~\o~ed [li e- <l CDp\E'S G; ;~\!: WwdnQ\\ ~,~~~ CC it_' <;, t0Y d\ St~'l b1UY\ 10 -\-\1 Q Ort\rYl ;f+rt .. \n~V\t'S ) L" \~Ll ~ III j Page 1 of 1 Conn, Angelina V '""".";"~"""""'~~M~+'_-.""'.'.""""""~m~",~,_,._~__.~~-c'--'-"""-~~~~."",,,,,=,,,,,.~_~~.~ From: Conn, Angelina V Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:24 AM To: 'Lance Ferrell' Cc: Holmes, Christine B; Donahue-Wold, Alexia K Subject: woodhall subdivision - primary plat Hi, Lance, the only 2 development standards variances (DSV's) that you will need to file with the BZA, at this time, are for the minimum lot width of 120 feet for lot 5, and the reduced front bsl of 30"fl; for 9 lots. The other waivers will be subdivision control waivers (SW's) requested with the primary plat approval, such as cul-de-sac length, private street, and stub streets. Thanks, Angie Conn, Planning Administrator Dept. of Community Services - Planning & Zoning 1 Civic Square, 3rd Floor City of Carmel, IN 46032 p.317-571-2417 f.317-571-2426 aconn@carmel.in.gov 10/15/2007 - "Your Project is Our Priority" October 1 0, 2007 Angie Conn/Christine Barton-Holmes Dept. of Community Services One Civic Square, 3rd Floor Cannel, IN 46032 /(1:;'":;;,: ., OC,'", . IJV{ltj '''j RE: Proposed "Woodhall" - l06th Street, east of Towne Road, Hamilton County Dear Service Provider & TAC Member: Weare proposing a 9-10t gated community located on approximately 11.6 acres more or less. The proposed tract of ground lies south of 106[h street, east of Towne Road and west of Wind em ere Subdivision. With the proposed "Woodhall" we are planning on connecting up all our utilities through the existing utilities that are in the general area or under new construction taking place now. Enclosed please fmd a preliminary layout of our site for your review. We are scheduled La file a Variance (DSV) Petition on October 12th. the Primary Plat Application on October 19th, and therefore placed in line to be on the T AC meeting agenda of October 1 ih and November 14th respectively. If at all possible I would like to get a comment/service letter prior to, or at that meeting. T look forward to working together again making this subdivision another outstanding addition to the Cannel / Hamilton County area. If you have any questions or need any additional infonnation please calL.. s~ ~ct-~ J "nce 'il.:lll .. Director of Residential Development ~r~e b1 ~ vu \rLj -e (L~ - U~ cc: Jeff Cohen - JB Cohen Reality Mark Zukennan - Mark Zukerman & Associates Joe D. Calderon ~ Bose McKinney & Evans LLP Banning Engineering, P.c. . 853 Columbia Road, Suite 101 . Plainfield, IN 46168 Phone.' (317) 707-3700 . Fax.' (317) 707-3800 . E-maif: banning@BanningEngineering.com