HomeMy WebLinkAboutCRC-06-11-02CRC Meeting, June 11, 2002
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CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Meeting
Tuesday, June 11, 2002
President Rick Roesch called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. Commission members
present were John Koven, Luci Snyder, Ron Carter, Ed Burke. Also present were Mayor
Brainard, Steve Engelking, Les Olds, Karl Haas, Kate Weese, Leslie Sinnott and Kurt
Dehner from Duke Realty Coporation, Bruce Donaldson from Barnes & Thornburg,
Buddy Downs, from Ice Miller, Loren Matthes from H. J. Umbaugh, Kim Clark from
Clarkland Properties, Tom Lazzara, from On Track Properties, Christopher Reid, from
Hoosier Realty Investments, L.L.C., Jeff Tyler, Carmel Community Players, Susan
Miller, Indianapolis Star, Lance Stahley, Crossroad Engineers, Jim Bryan, Sesco Group.
Phyllis Morrissey and Sherry Mielke, support staff.
Public Hearing
Mr. Roesch opened the Public Hearing to amend the Economic Development Plan for
Parkwood Economic Development Area at 7:41 p.m. He asked if there was anyone
present who would like to speak for or against this project. Seeing none, the Public
Hearing was closed at 7:42 p.m.
Resolutions 3-2002 and 4-2002
Mr. Downs explained the resolutions. Resolution 3-2002 will allow environmental
remediation and abatement as part of the project. This was described at the last CRC
meeting. Notice was published for the Public Hearing. The first resolution (3-2002) is
amending the previous plan. The second (4-2002) is pledging the tax increment to the
City of Carmel bonds.
Mr. Koven moved the CRC approve Resolution 3-2002. Following a second by Ms.
Snyder, the motion was unanimously approved.
Mr. Koven moved the CRC approve Resolution 4-2002. Following a second by Ms.
Snyder, the motion was unanimously approved.
Presentation of Offers for Parcel #9, City Center
Mr. Roesch noted two offers were discussed in the Executive Session preceding this
meeting. Mr. Roesch recused himself because he does business with both parties. He
passed the gavel to Vice President Burke.
Kim Clark and Tom Lazarra, from On Track Properties, propose to build a two story
commercial office building of approximately 9800 square feet with 30+ parking spaces
off street, “a building of consistent Colonial Georgian architecture in a Class A format.”
They are offering $195,000 for the parcel and have requested the CRC deliver a buildable
pad and sidewalks with landscaping along the streets, 90 day due diligence period,
closing on October 15, 2002, and completion of construction one year later.
Christopher Reid, Hoosier Realty Investments, stated he will be constructing a similar
type building, 10,000 square foot, matching the City Center design criteria. They would
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have their development office on the second floor with a retail client on the first floor.
They are not asking for any site improvements and have offered $205,000, 45 day due
diligence period, with closing on September 15, 2002, and completion of construction
within one year (August, 2003). He noted they will also be making a pass at sites on both
sides of the reflecting pond, tying these all to a retail corner, both corners.
Brief discussion about the number of parking spaces available on the site.
Mr. Haas summarized the two proposals. The quality and size of improvements would be
about the same for both proposals.
Mr. Koven moved the CRC accept the second proposal, from Chris Reid from Hoosier
Realty, for $205,000 with no site improvements to be made. Ms. Snyder seconded the
motion. The motion was approved with four in favor; Mr. Roesch recusing himself.
Mr. Burke returned the gavel to Mr. Roesch.
Mr. Roesch thanked the gentlemen for their bids and their interest in City Center, noting
“we still have more land to sell.”
Approval of Minutes
There being no additions or corrections to the minutes, Mr. Koven moved the minutes of
May 1, 2002, be approved. Following a second by Ms. Snyder the minutes were
unanimously approved.
In the minutes of May 8, 2002, Ms. Weese noted there should be a correction on page 8:
The whole detention system will have to come up .35 feet [not 3.5 as written]. Mr. Koven
moved the minutes of May 8, 2002, be approved with the correction. Following a second
by Ms. Snyder the motion was unanimously approved.
There being no additions or corrections to the minutes, Ms. Snyder moved the minutes of
May 13, 2002, be approved. Following a second by Mr. Burke, the motion was approved
with three in favor. Mr. Carter and Mr. Koven abstained because they did not attend that
meeting.
Report from the Director
Insurance on Materials
Mr. Engelking, responding to a request from the previous CRC meeting, stated the City’s
current insurance policy did not include coverage of the stored materials for the reflecting
pond. This coverage has now been added and will be paid out of the City’s administrative
budget. The annual fee to cover the estimated cost of $1,000,000 for materials is $2300
prorated on a month to month basis until completion. The premiums will only have to be
paid until the material is installed.
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Parcel #5 Dirt
About two weeks ago, on Parcel #5, we discovered some free dirt was being delivered
which we didn’t know was coming. It was being placed without any coordination and we
didn’t know its source or composition. Subject to CRC’s approval, we’ve decided Kate
Weese is the lead person to coordinate the delivery location and get certification in
writing as to the type of dirt. She’ll coordinate with Les Olds to make sure it is placed in
the optimum location. This was approved.
HUD EDI Application
Mr. Engelking said the application for the $1,000,000 grant was sent on the third of June.
He is the point of contact with them.
Ms. Hahn’s Report
Ms. Hahn said she had not received the revised plans for AMLI Old Town from Jim
Thomas.
Goodyear has applied for some new signage. “As with any planning petition, they have to
clear up their current sign violations before we will review any new applications, so
we’ve put them on alert for that. But because it’s within C-1, as with any other petition
we would ask the CRC architectural review committee [Ms. Snyder and Mr. Burke] to
come in and look at their signage proposals.”
Ms. Weese’s Report
Ms. Weese reported there is an electrical transformer box that has to go in for powering
the reflecting pond. Cinergy is proposing an easement along the side of Third Avenue
SW, but someone has told them they need to stay in the right-of-way. The actual location
is yet to be decided. It might be placed on the corner by the lift station equipment so it
can all be screened at the same time.
Mr. Olds cautioned about placing the box too far away from the service, because we
would have to pay from one side of the box to the service. Kate will work with Mr. Olds
and Cinergy on this.
Ms. Weese talked about location of the electrical lines in Old Town, noting the need to
get this resolved to stay on schedule. Time Warner cables will also need to be rerouted.
Part of this might be placed along the Monon. Fiber optics cannot be cut; they must be
rerouted. Permission from the property owners must be received [City of Carmel, Carmel
Historical Society and possibly Vera Bailey].
Financial Report
Ms. Mielke reported the May balance is $1,015,511. She has created a separate
spreadsheet for Shapiro’s. Recovery from the insurance company is budgeted for August.
Report from Attorney
Mr. Haas asked if the members were ready to approve the conflict of interest policy as it
applies to ownership of publicly traded stock. Mr. Burked moved for approval. Mr. Carter
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seconded the motion and it was unanimously approved. Ms. Morrissey will keep copies
available in the CRC files.
Report from Architect
Parcel #9
Mr. Olds noted in the packets were two separate pieces. He asked the CRC to consider
including in the Parcel #9 purchase agreement a brick wall to screen the parking area if
this area faces City Center Drive. Also the developer will need to provide a screen wall
between Ryland Townhomes and the parking area. Alternative kinds of screening walls,
if of appropriate designs, would be considered. Also, just so the Commission knows, all
the utilities are to the site.
Reflecting Pond
Construction is gathering speed and momentum. The good weather will hopefully reduce
the sixty day extension. Mr. Thomas was notified and was somewhat upset about the
delay, feeling it would hamper their ability to lease the apartments without the pond
completed. He commented that he might come to the Commission asking for temporary
landscaping covering the west end of the pond.
Parcel #5
Demolition for the balance of the parking lot has been awarded to North American. No
start date has been given, subject to the completion of Shapiro’s work.
Shapiro’s Site
Mr. Bryan, from SESCO, turned in documents stating that the site is clean, remediated,
and ready to turn over to Gilliate Construction for work on the parking lot. We have a
letter which confirms corrective action plan is complete. The requirement was that
SESCO bring the site up to existing grade so Gilliate could move on, put their fill on, and
complete the work. The only issue that came up is that the soils engineers retained by
Gilliate, after reviewing the situation, would not allow us to use compacted clay on the
site, so we had to switch to a granular backfill. There was an additional cost on top of the
original estimate. It was determined this was environmental corrective work and should
be placed on the bill to be reimbursed by the insurance company. We in turn will go back
to Gilliate and ask for a credit for the compacted clay they were going to put on the site.
Mr. Burke asked if there would be a letter from IDEM confirming the remediation. Mr.
Bryan said we should be receiving certification from labs. SESCO will also be working
with Gilliate locating the testing wells around the site.
Electrical Usage
Mayor Brainard asked CSO to have their electrical engineers provide an estimate of the
electrical usage on City Center site of those areas where there was no prior electrical
usage to come up with a cost to be presented to Cinergy in terms of the economic impact
the development would make. The calculations were run in a format that Cinergy uses
and it came up to about $700,000 per year in increased electrical usage. This information
will be used to ask Cinergy to pay for burying the electrical lines. Mayor Brainard said
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one possibility which was mentioned is perhaps tying the payment to the sale of the last
parcel. He noted they also might be more willing to pay for moving the lines now that it
is unlikely they will have competition. He said these were discussion points at a breakfast
meeting. The Mayor is waiting to hear back from Cinergy now that they have the
estimates of usage.
Parcel #9
Information was given to developers about this parcel. Mr. Roesch thanked Mr. Olds for
CSO’s work with the many developers who are sent to them.
Kudos
Mr. Carter thanked Ms Weese, for the engineering work she’s done on the Carmel Drive
project and he thanked Mr. Olds for the work he’s done from an architectural standpoint,
noting they’ve both done an outstanding job.
Mayor’s Report
Mayor Brainard had nothing further to report.
Reports from CRC Members
Mr. Koven asked about the level of the grounds around Muldoon’s. Mr. Olds said the
whole area will be brought up to match Shapiro’s level once it is all completed. He noted
there is a detention area north of the Fire Department.
Approval of Invoices
It was noted there are some errors on invoices. Ms. Weese said the Gilliatte invoice has
some things on it, which should not be included. She suggested a partial payment be
made at this time until the invoice is corrected. Discussion followed. It was noted these
are very complicated invoices because some of the costs are to be paid by the City, some
by the CRC and some by Shapiro’s.
Further discussion followed on this invoice and some others.
It was decided the CRC would pay the invoices as submitted except for the invoice from
Civil Designs for Plan Revisions, Shapiro’s ($15,822.50), the invoice from Gilliatte for
the Temporary Drive, Shapiro’s ($1,912.00), and to only pay $160,000 to Gilliatte toward
the $213,732 at this time. The rest of this invoice will be retained until completion of
review by Kate Weese and Karl Haas.
So moved by Mr. Burke. Following a second by Ms. Snyder, the motion was
unanimously approved.
Next Meeting
Wednesday, July 9, 5 p.m. Mr. Burke will not be there. Mr. Koven was not sure he would
be attending.
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Adjournment
No Correspondence, no Old Business, no New Business, Mr. Burke moved the meeting
be adjourned. Following a second by Mr. Koven the motion was approved and the
meeting adjourned at 8:51 p.m.