HomeMy WebLinkAboutCRC-07-16-02CRC Meeting, July 16, 2002
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CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Meeting
Tuesday, July 16, 2002
President Rick Roesch called the meeting to order at 6:12 p.m. Commission members
present were Luci Snyder, John Koven and Ron Carter, constituting a quorum. Also
present were Kelli Lawrence, Steve Engelking, Les Olds, Karl Haas, Kate Weese, Brad
Chambers, Greg Martin and David Leazenby from Buckingham, Mark Thomas and David
Compton from Pulte Homes, Robert Koeller, Lance Stahley, Steve Sturtz, Bruce Cordingly
from Pedcor, G. H. Kosene, Todd Miller, David Kosene, Gary Weaver from Weaver
Design Group, Bill Booker, Indianapolis Star. Phyllis Morrissey as support staff.
Mr. Roesch asked for a motion to change the order of the agenda, moving the Approval of
Invoices to the first item on the agenda. So moved by Mr. Koven. Following a second by
Ms. Snyder, the motion was unanimously approved.
Approval of Invoices
The invoices before the CRC have all been reviewed and approved. Ms. Snyder moved the
invoices be approved. Following a second by Mr. Koven, the motion was unanimously
approved.
Presentation of Proposals for Parcel #2
Mr. Roesch asked for Mr. Haas’ opinion whether he [Mr. Roesch] needed to abstain or
recuse himself since he has had banking business dealings with several people who have
submitted proposals. “I do not currently, nor have I had requests for any of the projects
which are before us.”
Mr. Haas: No, you don’t. There would be a conflict of interest only if you had a pecuniary
interest in one of the proposals and it would actually need to be a personal pecuniary
interest and in a situation where you’ve had past business dealings with one of the parties
that’s making a proposal, there’s not a problem. It’s not a conflict of interest and it’s not
inappropriate for you to vote.”
The Proposals
Mr. Chambers, Buckingham, presented his proposal, consisting of mixed use on the eight
acres. Pulte Homes of Indiana, LLC, proposed to move their divisional corporate offices to
the site. The proposal included 100-125 townhomes, ranging in size from 1200-2500
square feet and selling for $175,000-$250,000. The commercial uses will have 30-40,000
square feet of offices, 5-10,000 feet of neighborhood retail. Pulte Homes offices will
include a design center.
Mark Thomas, of Pulte Homes, discussed their portion of the proposal.
Questions and answers followed.
Mr. Roesch thanked Mr. Chambers for his presentation and the tour earlier that day at
Buckingham.
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Mr. Cordingly, Pedcor, presented his proposal, also a mixed use on the site. His company
would like to move their main headquarters to one of the proposed 20,000 square foot
buildings. They propose office and retail on the north side of the pool and for sale
townhomes on the south side and included expanded public spaces on both sides. They
also propose parking areas under the larger buildings, noting the parking under the offices
would provide nearly 50% of the spaces needed to serve the site.
Mr. Kosene described the townhouses proposed for the site, noting elevators would be
available for approximately 2/3 of the 123 units. The units are upscale, selling for $150-
160 per square foot. He distributed some information about his company and other
projects.
Questions, answers and discussion followed, mostly about street widths, parking,
elevators, takedown schedule, office space versus retail space.
Mr. Roesch said there were several ways the CRC can address the offers: we can accept an
offer, we can select a preferred party, contingent on working out the details of a project
agreement. Mr. Haas also noted the CRC could postpone the decision or divide it into
parts.
Mr. Koven: I am overly impressed by the presentations we have seen, both at our last
meeting and tonight. Each of the companies we have seen are quite capable of doing a
good job. I think what we’ve seen from Pedcor and Kosene would get us where we want to
go the quickest. He noted the many different aspects of their proposal which he liked. He
also emphasized the importance of a quality product which will hold up over the long run.
Mr. Koven moved the CRC accept the proposals from Pedcor and Kosene if we can come
to an agreement on the expectations. Ms. Snyder seconded the motion, adding the
importance of the architectural scale and proportion being correct. Mr. Olds said he and
Mr. Haas will work together on this package and bring it back to the Commission for
approval. Mr. Carter asked for clarification on the motion. Mr. Koven said he meant to
designate Pedcor and Kosene as the preferred developers. The motion was unanimously
approved.
Mr. Roesch thanked everyone for all their work. He told Mr. Chambers and Mr. Thomas
that the CRC has expanded their area of influence and asked them to keep the empty
nesters demographics in mind.
Mr. Thomas complimented Pedcor and Kosene on their proposal. “We weren’t the right
choice at this time, but we will be in the future.”
Mr. Koven: “We’d like to have Pulte and their headquarters in our City Center, too.”
Adjournment
There being no other business before the CRC, Mr. Koven moved the meeting be
adjourned. Following a second by Mr. Carter, the motion was approved and the meeting
adjourned at 7:37 p.m.