HomeMy WebLinkAboutCRC-10-05-04CRC Meeting, October 5, 2004
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CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Meeting, Tuesday,
October 5, 2004
Vice President Ron Carter called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m. Commission members
present were Bob Battreall, William Hammer and Rick Sharp, constituting a quorum.
Also present were Mayor Brainard, Les Olds, Karl Haas, Tim Ochs, Chris McComas,
Steve Sturtz, Bruce Cordingley, Steve Brown, and David and Barbara Horner (owners of
rental property at 241 West Main Street). Phyllis Morrissey and Sherry Mielke as support
staff.
Approval of Minutes
Mr. Battreall moved for approval of the minutes of the August 17, 2004, meeting.
Following a second by Mr. Hammer, the motion was approved with three in favor. Mr.
Carter abstained.
Mr. Battreall moved for approval of the minutes of the September 21, 2004, meeting.
Following a second by Mr. Sharp, the motion was unanimously approved.
Parcel #10 Update
Chris McComas gave a brief history of the project by SOM, LLC. The first building,
Flagstar Bank, is complete. They are committed to build the second building, retail on the
ground floor with office above. He distributed a site plan.
Mr. Battreall asked when the second building would be started. Mr. McComas could not
give an exact date. On further questioning he said he anticipated being underway by
spring.
In response to a question from Mr. Olds, Mr. McComas said items which would be
helpful to have in place are the completion of the sidewalk connection to the Monon, the
power lines, the connection of Veterans Drive through behind the fire station, decision
about where Monon Green is going to be, whether we’re going to get a signal at Monon
Green and Range Line. These things would be helpful to answer our questions said Mr.
McComas, “…but I’m not looking for a commitment on anything.”
Mr. Olds asked Mr. McComas to draft a letter outlining their intentions and also listing
all their concerns. Further discussion followed.
Mr. McComas agreed to come to the November meeting with some more information and
a start date decided.
Mr. Ochs said they were close to a commitment from a tenant for part of the ground floor.
Mr. McComas was asked to keep the CRC better informed of progress from now on and
he agreed.
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Pedcor Presentation
City Center
Bruce Cordingley brought the Commission up to date on their City Center project. He
distributed a chart demonstrating what funds would have to be distributed and the timing
of such by the CRC. He also distributed a chart showing the probable time frame for the
project. They hope to have the schematic phase done by the end of December and will
make another presentation at that time.
Mr. Evan Lurie will also be working with Pedcor.
Mr. Cordingley said they have received many phone calls from prospective tenants. Some
have offered to sign leases, but it is too early for that.
Parcel 2
Mr. Cordingley said they anticipated started building #4 in spring of 2005 with
completion by spring of 2006.
A fifth building has been suggested, but additional underground parking (two levels)
would be needed then under that building and building #4. Proposed site plans were
distributed.
Mr. Cordingley said he thought that if the CRC could allow Pedcor to use the TIF
revenue from the fifth building, without putting the Commission at risk [CRC not
responsible for the second level construction cost] then we could then buy a bond issue so
we could justify the cost of installing the second level of parking under buildings four
and five and the area between them.
Mr. Sturtz showed the site plan boards and explained the designs of buildings four and
five.
Their current parking lots have never been more than 67% full when they’ve checked.
Putting two levels under buildings four and five will increase parking by nearly sixty
spaces. That parking could also be used for the Performing Arts Center events.
Discussion followed.
Mr. Sharp asked when the rooftop mechanicals would be disguised. Mr. Cordingley said
they were working on it and had ordered sample panels which were overdue.
Mr. Sharp asked Mr. Cordingley what he would need from the CRC tonight.
Mr. Haas suggested the following: That the CRC pass a resolution stating that in
exchange for construction of building #5 and two underground levels of parking under
buildings four and five, the CRC would be willing to commit the TIF from the fifth
building to support the bond to help pay for the underground parking of the two
buildings. [Mr. Cordingley assured the CRC they would not be liable.]
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So moved by Mr. Battreall. Following a second by Mr. Sharp, the motion was
unanimously approved.
Mr. Hammer suggested better signage for the underground parking. Mr. Cordingley said a
sign package is being completed.
Financial Matters
Cash Flow Report
Ms. Mielke reported that the total resources available were $6,648,402.
Invoices
Mr. Battreall moved for approval of the invoices in the amount of $156,439.68 from the
operating fund and $130,362.34 from the bond proceeds. Brief discussion followed about
some of the invoices. Call for the question. Following a second by Mr. Sharp, the motion
was unanimously approved.
Other/Bond Counsel
Scott Peck, from Baker & Daniels, sent a transcript of proceedings for the $9,500,000
City of Carmel Redevelopment District Tax Increment Revenue Bonds, Series 2004A
(Illinois Street Project). This will be placed in the CRC files.
Update on Properties
Parcel #2
Pedcor is still interested in purchasing the liquor license.
Kosene’s project is progressing well. They are still trying to purchase some of the
property to the south.
Veterans Plaza
Project was scheduled to be completed October 31, but that has been delayed due to brick
delivery for the restrooms. Wiring is in place so surveillance cameras could be placed on
the exterior doors of the restrooms.
Veterans were to supply all the light fixtures. However, they do not have the funds right
now. Mr. Olds asked the Commission to authorize a change order to get the fixtures on
order because the contractor needs the inserts now. The Veterans are committed to pay for
them later. Mr. Olds noted they also owe CRC $18,000 for the sculpture base. Discussion
followed about the Veterans’ group’s fundraising needs. They have hired a professional
fundraiser. They will need to raise $700,000 - $800,000. Concern was expressed about
the Commission having to pay the major part of the memorial.
Mr. Olds will ask the Veterans’ representatives to be at the October 26th meeting to give
an update on their project.
Further discussion followed. Mayor Brainard said some corporations were interested in
contributing.
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Mr. Olds said a change order will be prepared for signature to keep the project moving
forward.
Parcel #5
Mr. Olds said he had an ALTA survey completed and it was delivered to Pedcor.
A meeting was held with Cinergy about the power poles relocation and the desire to take
all the lines underground. Pedcor has agreed to provide space to run a concrete duct from
one end of their project to the other end through their building. That ductwork would also
be big enough to handle all communication, cable and data lines for that area. Another
possibility would be the re-routing of the lines. If we have to buy new cable, there is a 12
to 15 month delivery time because the product is only made in Finland, Germany and
Japan. Pedcor needs to have the lines out of the way by May or June 2005.
The amphitheater is now under the design influence of Pedcor which will greatly reduce
the cost. A lot of it will end up in Pedcor’s project. They will provide us all the vertical
transportation, restrooms, ramping, storage, staging area, so the true amphitheater will be
the stage, the grass level seating and the light bars. Three sides of the amphitheater are
now hotel and garages (which will make it more affordable for the Rotary).
In conjunction with Parcel #7 and Parcel #5, Mr. Olds noted the interface between the
two is very important. According to the project agreement, CRC will be responsible for
all the engineering, site, civil, structural, foundations, garage design, utilities which
represents a total estimated cost of $957,000. Mr. Olds asked for approval from the CRC
to expend $155,000 from this year’s money for engineering and architectural work, based
on the chart that the developer submitted during his presentation, with the various costs
broken down. Mr. Olds will ask for approval of the remainder in January from 2005
funds.
Mr. Haas said if the CRC approves the project agreement, then they are also committing
to do the engineering work which was outlined in the Pedcor proposal. It does not
obligate the CRC to spend the money at any particular time but it does obligate the CRC
to do the engineering work as necessary for the design and construction of the project.
Mr. Olds noted we (he and CRC) have design oversight of all the engineering. Pedcor
would have responsibility for the design including the engineering so if there is a defect
or deficiency in the design or in the engineering, Pedcor is responsible. Mr. Olds said we
want oversight because some of what they are working on, we may want that same
engineer to do some work on Parcel #7 that we may have to have done to make sure
Parcel #7 ties back to Parcel #5 again.
Mr. Hammer asked Mr. Haas to insert in the project agreement that CRC will own the
plans. Agreed.
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After further discussion, Mr. Sharp moved the CRC authorize an expenditure of $957,000
in engineering fees [for the Pedcor project on Parcel #5]. Seconded by Mr. Hammer. Mr.
Sharp refined his motion to authorize the $957,000 in fees as outlined on the schedule
presented to us by Pedcor entitled Parking and Street Engineering Fee Analysis and
Completion Schedule and the subcategories that are outlined therein. Mr. Hammer
seconded the refined motion and it was unanimously approved.
Mr. Haas asked for a resolution approving the project agreement in substantially final
form as distributed and it would include the revision suggested by Bill [Hammer]. It
would include the authority of the Executive Director to approve revisions and exhibits
consistent with the economics outlined and the elevations and site plan that have been
presented to the Commission, provided that Pedcor will need to get Commission
approval of the schematic design and the budget at that stage. So moved by Mr. Sharp.
Following a second by Mr. Hammer, the motion was unanimously approved.
Mr. Haas asked for a resolution approving the offering of Parcels 5b and 5c in the form
distributed. So moved by Mr. Sharp. Following a second by Mr. Hammer, the motion was
unanimously approved.
Parcel #7
Barbizon Art Collection
Mr. Haas said he and Mayor Brainard have been negotiating for the past several months
with Steven and Sherry Eros, owners of a Barbizon Art Collection, to bring the collection
to the City. Mr. Haas said they were close to an agreement. He said “as a gesture of good
faith”, the Eros have requested the expenditure of up to $15,000 for expenses in
accordance with a budget which Mr. Olds would approve. The funds would primarily be
for legal fees for services of their attorney. The collection would be housed at an interim
location in the City until a museum could be built for it. The City would pay rent for the
collection until such time as it could purchase it, after a fundraising campaign. The rental
fees would go toward the purchase price. Estimated value of the collection is $6,000,000-
$10,000,000. It has not been currently appraised. The Eros have volunteered to act as
trustees of the collection and the rental fees would include their services.
A local art foundation would be formed to be the recipient of the art. This would be the
entity that actually does the fundraising, using a professional fundraiser.
In response to a question about insuring the art, Mr. Haas said the foundation would be
set up which would immediately begin fundraising. The first purpose of the fundraising
would be to defray the costs of housing the art on a temporary basis. Under the
agreement which is being negotiated, the CRC would agree, in the event of any shortfall
for the first three years, to provide a grant to the foundation to make up that shortfall. So
the foundation would be responsible for insuring the art.
Mayor Brainard said this is going to draw a lot of attention to the City. He informed the
group about the Barbizon School of Art.
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Initially any agreement will be between the Eros’ foundation and the CRC, until a
museum foundation is formed here. When the museum foundation is formed then the
CRC would step out of the first agreement and have an agreement with the Carmel
museum foundation to fund grants and cover shortfalls for three years.
In response to a question, Mr. Haas agreed the CRC could be responsible for up to
$2,000,000 but he said it could be a lot less than that.
Mr. Haas said if the Eros and they reach an agreement, then the $15,000 comes out of the
first payment to the Eros.
Mr. Hammer asked who would decide how the art was displayed. He also asked about
claims from World War II and how that would be addressed if the issue came up. One of
the issues will be that they are required to establish ownership of the art.
Mr. Battreall moved the CRC pay $15,000 for the Eros’ expenses. Following a second by
Mr. Sharp, the motion was unanimously approved.
Parcel #8
No change from last month; still waiting for the contractor close-out information.
Parcel #9
Chris Reid’s office building moving along.
Parcel #10
Mr. McComas appeared at the meeting earlier as reported.
Mr. Battreall asked what the cut-off date was for the remaining construction. After
discussion it was decided that another letter will be sent to SOM if no definite answer is
received from Mr. McComas at the November meeting.
Parcel #11
No activity at this time.
Parcel #12
O’Malia Property
Mr. Olds asked the low bidder, Casey-Bertram, in for a meeting. He stands behind his bid
for the demolition of the O’Malia’s and Goodyear buildings. Based on this, Mr. Olds
recommended the CRC award him the contract in the amount of $64,699.00 which
includes the performance bond, noting the environmental issues were stated in the bid
packet. So moved by Mr. Sharp. Following a second by Mr. Hammer, the motion was
unanimously approved.
Payless Liquors Property
Mr. Haas requested a resolution to approve the commencement of condemnation action
as contemplated by the prior resolution to acquire the Payless property (Parcel 12b) by
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imminent domain. So moved by Mr. Battreall. Following a second by Mr. Sharp, the
motion was unanimously approved.
Amoco Property
Mr. Haas asked for a resolution to approve the commencement of condemnation action as
contemplated by the prior resolution to acquire the Amoco property (Parcel 12c). So
moved by Mr. Battreall. Seconded by Mr. Hammer. Mr. Sharp asked for an amendment to
the motion to cap it at $220,000 minus the cleanup costs. Seconded by Mr. Hammer.
Unanimous approval to add the amendment to the motion. The motion itself was then
unanimously approved.
Parcel #13
Mr. Olds stated in the packets there was a draft of the proposed offering to the
development community for the property. The package included conceptual ideas for
live/work units with a minimum of three-story buildings on Range Line and on Main
Street. The minimum price for the land is $750,000. The package also states the CRC
will build the infrastructure, streetscape on the public right of way of the property on
Range Line, Main Street and the two dedicated alley ways that run north/south and
east/west.
Mr. Hammer moved the CRC approve the offering materials for Parcel #13. Following a
second by Mr. Sharp, the motion was unanimously approved.
Mr. Olds said we would normally be prepared for demolition of the property once
ownership was established. However, the florist has asked to stay through the end of the
year. CRC agreed, provided the florist keeps their insurance in place. Mr. Haas will
prepare a document for them to sign, acknowledging that if something breaks they would
be responsible for fixing it. Demolition could start in January.
Mr. and Mrs. Horner, co-owners of property 241 West Main, asked what was proposed
for that area. Mayor Brainard explained about the townhomes proposed for the area to the
north and the proposed roundabout for 4th Avenue and Main.
Old Business
Arts District Gateways
Mr. Olds said gateway surveys are to be completed tomorrow.
Performing Arts Center
Mayor Brainard recently participated in a panel discussion for the magazine, Bond Buyer,
in New York, about performing arts centers. Cost estimates have been received from the
Donnell Company. We are getting very close to a report from Mr. Brans, hopefully in the
next two weeks.
Mr. Haas will bring a resolution to the next meeting which will outline proposed efforts
by the Commission and the Arts District.
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Old Town Grants
Mr. Olds recommended the following grants:
$5000 Tom McHaffey, 14-20 West Main, The Breakfast Club
$1500 Greg Mink, 38 West Main
$2500 Bob Weese, Integrity Auto, 40 S Range Line Rd
$1000 Bart Poer, 110 N Range Line Rd
This expends the remaining $10,000 of the $25,000 for grants.
Brief discussion about Greg Mink’s building. It was recommended not to give him any
grant money until he agrees to paint his building.
Two were denied because their projects don’t meet the criteria: Carmel Florist and
Advertising Agency/Aquarium on North Range Line.
The CRC will likely continue the grant program in 2005. The program could be
promoted even more next year. Suggestion was made that Mr. Olds contact those who
were denied with suggestions more in keeping with the design criteria.
New Business
None
Next Meeting will be Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 6:30 Executive Session, 7 p.m. regular
meeting.
Adjournment
Motion made, seconded, and approved for adjournment at 9:40 p.m.