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Home My WebLink AboutCorrespondencePlan Review - Review Comments Report Project Name: PZ-2025-00077, 80, 81 V Harvest Church Sign Variances Workflow Started: 4/15/2025 11:51:11 AM Report Generated: 06/03/2025 10:18 AM REF #CYCLE REVIEWED BY TYPE FILENAME DISCUSSION STATUS 1 1 Planning & Zoning Angie Conn 4/16/25 12:40 PM Comment Please respond in writing to the preliminary review comments listed at the bottom of the 04/16 docket no. assignment email, and please do that before noon Friday, May 16. For your convenience, they are listed again, below: a) Please make checks payable to City of Carmel if you are paying via check. b) Provide a copy of the Official List of Adjacent Property Owners from the Hamilton County Auditors Office. (Make sure to check Carmel BZA on their form.) c) *The Current in Carmel only prints on Tuesdays, and their filing deadline is usually 14 days prior to their printing date. Please submit your Microsoft Word file of the legal ad to them before Noon, Fri., April 25 so that it prints on time Tues., May 6. Their contact info is 317-489-4444 or legals@youarecurrent.com. (Please refer to page 6 of the attached Handout for a template of wording to use for the legal ad and the mailings the Notice of Public Hearing.) d) The mailings/notices to the adjacent property owners should be done by first class mail with Certificate of Mailing (not Certified Mail). (Please provide us with the stamped receipts of the certificate of mailings for the file on or before Noon, Thursday, May 22.) e) Please provide the filled out & notarized Placement of Public Notice Sign Placement Affidavit form (found in Handout) once the sign is placed. f) Please provide the filled out & notarized Petitioners Affidavit of Notice of Public Hearing form (found in Handout). g) Please provide the filled out Notice of the Public Hearing form/template (found in Handout). h) Please provide proof of notice, such as Publishers Affidavit from the newspaper, once you receive them. i) Planning Staff is not supportive of the request, as proposed, and the Petitioner should work with the Citys Sign Permits Specialist, Aliza Shalit, to come up with a proposal that Planning Staff can support. j) Please make sure to list out the true practical difficulties and hardships associated with having to comply with the zoning ordinance. k) Please have your Findings of Fact written out for each separate variance (three (3) total), and please write them so that they address the specific topic of the variances requested, with more details as to why you need that specific variance approved, etc. l) Additional review comments (if any) will be issued through ProjectDox, our online plan review software. Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/27/25 3:02 PM I thought that my comments and files loaded on 5/12/25 have fulfilled the unresolved items. If not, please let me know. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/12/25 1:55 PM Angie Conn's Response: i) the BZA Info Packet will be forward by May 16th. k) Updated Findings of Facts have been uploaded in Correspondence. Two separate Findings of Facts for PZ-2025-00077V and 00080V now. We will change and meet the ground sign masonry base to proper code. (00081V) ---------------------------------------------------------- Reviewer Response: Angie Conn - 5/8/25 3:01 PM Thank you for addressing most of these comments... Regarding comment i) Planning Staff is still reviewing the revised variance petition and will issue the BZA Dept Report on the afternoon of May 22 with its analysis and vote recommendation to the BZA after we receive your BZA Info Packet by May 16 with the latest, updated proposal for signage. Regarding comment k) this comment remains active; we need a filled out Findings of Fact form for each variance being requested (and depending on your next set of revisions, the need for the 'Ground sign masonry base' variance might go away...) Regarding comment l) please address Aliza's latest 2 review comments. Thanks again. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 4/21/25 3:10 PM a) Payment to Carmel City Dept of Community Service for the amount of $3,283.00 (plus $131.25 for fees) was made via credit card payment on 4/21/25 b) Property Owners List uploaded in Public Notice file and copies of letters/site plans. d)Adjoining Property list, Mailings and notices with Certificate of Mailing completed and uploaded in Public Notice File. e) Completed and notarized Public Sign Placement and Affidavit along with photo of sign placement. Both uploaded in Public Notice. f) Petitioner's Affidavit of Notice of Public Resolved REVIEW COMMENTS Created in ProjectDox version 9.4.9.4 Plan Review - Review Comments Report Project Name: PZ-2025-00077, 80, 81 V Harvest Church Sign Variances Workflow Started: 4/15/2025 11:51:11 AM Report Generated: 06/03/2025 10:18 AM Hearing completed and file uploaded. g) Notice of Public Hearing form completed and file uploaded. h) Proof of notice in May 6, 2025 Current in Carmel, file uploaded. i) Scheduled and had meeting with Citys Sign Permits Specialist Aliza Shalit to discuss and arrive with proposals for Planning Staff support on 04/29/2025. j) Practical difficulties and hardships, file attached in Correspondence. k) Findings of Fact, file attached in Correspondence. l) Removing two existing building signs, "Worship Center" over north lobby entrance and "Office" over the admin building. File attached reflecting signs to be removed in month of May 2025 2 1 Planning & Zoning Angie Conn 4/17/25 10:12 AM Comment Please confirm with Sign Permits Officer Aliza Shalit that a sign cornice is not required for the new Ground Sign. Responded by: Marty Baker - 4/21/25 3:31 PM Cornice has been revised to meet code. (ground sign masonry base shale be at least equal to width and depth of sign. Current ground monument sign will also be modified so base also meets new code. Resolved 3 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:13 AM Changemark Missing Signs Please include the location of the proposed ground sign as well as the existing one. Site Plan for Building Signs.pdf Reviewer Response: Aliza Shalit - 5/7/25 7:25 PM Thank you. Please when you put together the packet for the BZA hearing merge all signs onto a single site plan so the members can visualize all the signs that are being requested. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 4/21/25 2:59 PM Site plan for proposed and existing ground sign has been uploaded. File name is "Site Plan for Second Monument Street Sign" Info Only 4 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:18 AM Changemark Ground signs Does this represent both the existing sign and the proposed ground sign? Proposed New Addiional Monument Sign South.West Specifications.pdf Reviewer Response: Aliza Shalit - 5/7/25 6:47 PM The update to the existing ground sign can be recorded at the time of sign permitting of the new sign if the variance is granted. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 4/21/25 3:08 PM It current represents the proposed ground sign. We are receptive to correcting our existing sign if it does not meet proper specifications Resolved Created in ProjectDox version 9.4.9.4 Plan Review - Review Comments Report Project Name: PZ-2025-00077, 80, 81 V Harvest Church Sign Variances Workflow Started: 4/15/2025 11:51:11 AM Report Generated: 06/03/2025 10:18 AM REF #CYCLE REVIEWED BY TYPE FILENAME DISCUSSION STATUS 5 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:18 AM Changemark Ground sign dimensions Please include ground sign height from grade to top of sign structure. Also include sign area (HxW) as outlined by the rectangle around all elements of the sign. Proposed New Addiional Monument Sign South.West Specifications.pdf Responded by: Marty Baker - 4/22/25 2:52 PM Dimensions are included on the file uploaded in Drawings, Ground Sign Specs, Materials, Lighting. Ground sign from grade to top of sign structure is 63". The sign area including the logo and "Harvest Church is 68.5" W x 54" high (25.69 sq ft) Resolved 6 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:18 AM Changemark Sign Specs Please include sign specs, materials, lighting, dimensions. Proposed New Addiional Monument Sign South.West Specifications.pdf Responded by: Marty Baker - 4/22/25 11:39 AM Uploaded in Drawings, Ground Sign Specs, Materials, Lighting. Sign to match existing sign. Materials are metal cabinet with wood overlay. Cabinet has textured paint. Front lit channel letters, "Harvest" only. Painted 1/4" acrylic, flush mounted. Resolved 7 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:18 AM Changemark Landscaping Please include landscaping plan as required per UDO sign standards. Landscaped area at the base of the ground sign must be at least as large as the sign area. Proposed New Addiional Monument Sign South.West Specifications.pdf Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/6/25 4:42 PM Landscaping plan file uploaded Resolved 8 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:23 AM Changemark Backer If sign variance is granted, installation on backer panel will depend on ADLS Amend approval of material and location. If backer use and material is not approved, sign (if approved) must be installed directly on building fascia. Building Sign, North Lobby Elevation Specifications.pdf Info Only 9 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:24 AM Changemark Backer If sign variance is granted, installation on backer panel will depend on ADLS Amend approval of material and location. If backer use and material is not approved, sign (if approved) must be installed directly on building fascia. Building Sign, South Elevation Lobby Specifications.pdf Info Only 10 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 4/21/25 11:25 AM Changemark Backer If sign variance is granted, installation on backer panel will depend on ADLS Amend approval of material and location. If backer use and material is not approved, sign (if approved) must be installed directly on building fascia. Building Sign.Between Buildings North Elevation Specifications.pdf Info Only 11 2 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/7/25 7:16 PM Changemark Ground sign base Please extend base to widest part of the sign. This should be updated for the BZA Hearing packet. Ground Sign Specs, Materials, Lighting.pdf Resolved Created in ProjectDox version 9.4.9.4 Plan Review - Review Comments Report Project Name: PZ-2025-00077, 80, 81 V Harvest Church Sign Variances Workflow Started: 4/15/2025 11:51:11 AM Report Generated: 06/03/2025 10:18 AM REF #CYCLE REVIEWED BY TYPE FILENAME DISCUSSION STATUS 12 2 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/7/25 7:20 PM Changemark Landscape If existing ground sign landscape is not present or has not been upkept, proposed landscape should be duplicate on both ground signs. Monument Ground Sign.Landscape Plan.pdf Info Only 13 2 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/7/25 7:21 PM Changemark Ground sign Base Please extend base to widest part of the sign. Proposed New Addiional Monument Sign South.West Specifications.pdf Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/14/25 3:44 PM Ground monument sign dimensions have been updated and revised o meet the UDO code for the base. Uploaded revised file in Architectural Drawings, Ground Sign Specs, Materials, Lighting. I thought that my comments and files loaded on 5/12/25 have fulfilled the unresolved items. If not, please let me know. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/12/25 1:12 PM Uploaded Ground Sign Specs, Materials, Lighting to reflect changes in size of letters so that base is the widest part of sign. Letters now extend width of 14" and base is 16" Resolved Created in ProjectDox version 9.4.9.4 Plan Review - Review Comments Report Project Name: PZ-2025-00077, 80, 81 V Harvest Church Sign Variances Workflow Started: 4/15/2025 11:51:11 AM Report Generated: 06/03/2025 10:18 AM REF #CYCLE REVIEWED BY TYPE FILENAME DISCUSSION STATUS 14 2 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/7/25 7:23 PM Changemark Wall signs Please include full specs on this document. Lighting style, mounting style (Flush to fascia), and the dimensions of the wall the signs are to be installed on. Building Sign, North Lobby Elevation Specifications.pdf Reviewer Response: Aliza Shalit - 6/2/25 2:42 PM Dimensions of the sign spandrel panel (wall where sign will be installed have not been included. Final size will be confirmed when sign permit applications are reviewed taking in consideration the spandrel panel dimensions for each sign location. Sign Permit applications are required for all new signs. Please apply through our online permitting site. Completed renderings and sign schematics will be required. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/14/25 3:45 PM I think the latest file should include the full specifications. No lighting for the signs, flush mounted to the fascia and dimensions. I thought that my comments and files loaded on 5/12/25 have fulfilled the unresolved items. If not, please let me know. ---------------------------------------------------------- Responded by: Marty Baker - 5/12/25 10:33 AM Uploaded revised North Lobby Elevation with wall dimensions. Their will be no lighting features. Sign (letters are mounted flush to fascia) In addition, this applies to the South Lobby Elevation as well. Revised file with wall dimension were uploaded Info Only 15 2 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/7/25 7:29 PM Comment Please make sure to include all specs for both proposed wall signs on the elevations. See Comment on North facing sign review comments. Info Only Created in ProjectDox version 9.4.9.4 Shestak, Joe From:Conn, Angelina V Sent:Thursday, May 15, 2025 9:02 AM To:Shestak, Joe Cc:Jesse, Christina; Shalit, Aliza Subject:FW: Harvest Church BZA Info Packet for May 27th Meeting Follow Up Flag:Follow up Flag Status:Completed FYI – from Marty, regarding the revised Ground Sign design. -Angie From: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2025 8:58 AM To: Conn, Angelina V <aconn@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: Harvest Church BZA Info Packet for May 27th Meeting Yes, this is correct Angie and thank you. Regards, Marty Baker Executive Director of Operations mbaker@harvestindy.org From: Conn, Angelina V <aconn@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2025 8:49 AM To: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Subject: RE: Harvest Church BZA Info Packet for May 27th Meeting Thank you, Marty. The BZA info packet shows two di?erent versions of the new proposed south Ground Sign (regarding the sign base width on the Front View), but I assume that we will go with the one that complies with the Sign Ordinance. Thanks! Angie Conn, AICP - Planning Administrator Carmel Planning/Zoning Division, DOCS rd 1 Civic Sq., 3 Flr., Carmel, IN 46202 O: 317.571.2417 W: carmeldocs.com 1 Shestak, Joe From:Jesse, Christina Sent:Thursday, May 15, 2025 9:03 AM To:Shestak, Joe; Conn, Angelina V Cc:Shalit, Aliza Subject:RE: Docket No. Assignment: Harvest Church Sign Variances- (PZ-2025-00077 V; -00080 V; -00081 V) Follow Up Flag:Follow up Flag Status:Completed Good morning, When Aliza and I met with Marty from Harvest we were able to confirm that they were willing to widen the masonry base of the proposed sign and bring the existing sign base up to code to avoid that additional variance. We also discussed removing one of the wall signs and exploring the idea of a wall mural in that area later. Aliza confirmed with me that staff is only supportive of the additional ground sign and is not supportive of the additional wall signs, according to Mike. I would circle back with him to make sure nothing has changed on that front. Best, Christina Jesse, AICP, CNU-A Planning Administrator Pronouns: she/her/hers City of Carmel Dept. of Community Services One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032 317.571.2417 | cjesse@carmel.in.gov From: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2025 8:41 AM To: Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> Cc: Jesse, Christina <cjesse@carmel.in.gov>; Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: Harvest Church Sign Variances- (PZ-2025-00077 V; -00080 V; -00081 V) Good morning, Angie: I agree, I think we can withdraw their variance request for the ground sign masonry base. I can see if Aliza has anything to say if she is able to review the online info packet prior to the agenda being released tomorrow. Thank you, Joe Shestak Planner II City of Carmel Department of Community Services Division of Planning & Zoning One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032 1 (317) 571-2419 | jshestak@carmel.in.gov From: Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2025 8:34 AM To: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov> Cc: Jesse, Christina <cjesse@carmel.in.gov>; Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: Docket No. Assignment: Harvest Church Sign Variances- (PZ-2025-00077 V; -00080 V; -00081 V) Good morning, Joe (and Christina) – In looking at their BZA info packet, it looks like they have removed one of the requested wall signs and are now only asking for 4 total signs. What do you think? Also, it looks like they widened their sign base on the Front View of the proposed south Ground Sign and will no longer need a variance for that. But the BZA info packet shows two different versions of that south Ground Sign, but I think it is safe to say that they now comply (especially after viewing their ProjectDox responses and uploads). I propose that the BZA agenda item now reads as the following (Do you concur?): (V) Harvest Church Sign Variances. The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals for additional signage: Docket No. PZ-2025-00077 V UDO Section 5.39(H)(2) One (1) sign allowed per street frontage; Four (4) requested (1 existing ground sign, 1 proposed ground sign, 2 proposed wall signs). Docket No. PZ-2024-00080 V UDO Section 5.39(H)(2) Signs not facing any public street right of way not allowed; Three (3) requested (3 wall signs) WITHDRAWN: Docket No. PZ-2024-00081 V UDO Section 5.39(H)(6) Ground sign masonry base shall be at least equal to the width and depth of the sign; ground sign doesn’t meet requirement requested. The 12-acre site is located at 14550 River Road. It is zoned Legacy PUD/Planned Unit Development, Z-679-22. Filed by Marty Baker of Harvest Bible Chapel of North Indianapolis, Inc. …Given all these changes, are we now supportive of their Variance requests? -Angie From: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 10:44 AM To: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Cc: Lopez, Alexia K <alopez@carmel.in.gov>; Warner, Caleb <cwarner@carmel.in.gov>; Hollibaugh, Mike P <MHollibaugh@carmel.in.gov>; Kass, Joslyn <jkass@carmel.in.gov>; Keeling, Adrienne M <AKeeling@carmel.in.gov>; Littlejohn, David W <dlittlejohn@carmel.in.gov>; Mindham, Daren <dmindham@carmel.in.gov>; Mishler, Nicholas F <nmishler@carmel.in.gov>; Motz, Lisa <lmotz@carmel.in.gov>; Thomas, John G <jthomas@carmel.in.gov>; Krueskamp, Theresa A <TKrueskamp@carmel.in.gov>; McCoy, David W <DMcCoy@carmel.in.gov>; Willie Hall <whall@crossroadengineers.com>; 'maggie.crediford@trico.eco' <maggie.crediford@trico.eco>; Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>; 'ryan.hartman@trico.eco' <ryan.hartman@trico.eco>; Jesse, Christina <cjesse@carmel.in.gov>; Prader, Kelli <kprader@carmel.in.gov>; Grechukhin, Sergey <sgrechukhin@carmel.in.gov>; Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov>; Worrell, Jeff <jworrell@carmel.in.gov>; Clark, Samuel <Samuel.Clark@hamiltoncounty.in.gov>; Hohlt, William G <WHohlt@carmel.in.gov>; Lynch-Mcgrath, Allison N <alynchmcgrath@carmel.in.gov>; Brown, Libby <lbrown@carmel.in.gov>; Keesling, Rachel M <rkeesling@carmel.in.gov>; Shively, Matthew <mshively@carmel.in.gov>; Butler, Bric <bbutler@carmel.in.gov>; Liggett, Brent E <bliggett@carmel.in.gov>; Johnson, Angela <ajohnson@carmel.in.gov>; Rothenbush, Mary Jo <mjrothenbush@carmel.in.gov>; Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov>; Cusimano, Kevin 2 Shestak, Joe From:Shalit, Aliza Sent:Wednesday, April 2, 2025 12:35 PM To:Marty Baker; Conn, Angelina V; Shestak, Joe Cc:Jesse, Christina Subject:RE: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required (Harvest Church) Follow Up Flag:Follow up Flag Status:Completed Hello Marty, After reviewing the proposed signage Staff has made the determination that as presented this request would go in front of the full BZA board without Staff support. Per UDO sign standards (as well as PUD) Harvest Church is entitled to one sign per street frontage, a total of 5 signs are being requested, one of which is existing and three were never presented as options during the recent ADLS Amend for a new building and parking lot. Staff would be supportive of one (1) additional sign (either the ground sign or wall sign on the south side of the building). That said, the ground sign would have to follow present day UDO sign standards for Ground/Monument signs. Unfortunately, the original ground sign design has a base that is not as wide as the sign itself which is now required for all monument signs. The options for this are updating the base for both existing and new ground signs or requesting a variance from that section of the UDO so the new sign can match the old one. While reviewing the proposed wall signs it was also noted that you are proposing adding wooden textured spandrel panels in 3 locations on the building. These architectural details were not previously presented during the recent ADLS approval, so at a minimum an administrative ADLS Amend review will be required. This review may also include the proposed pergolas/outdoor swings that don't currently complement the building architecture per the Legacy PUD. Staff would also like to discuss the removal of the diamond pattern on the existing building as agreed upon during the review of the original ADLS Amend for the addition project. Regards, Aliza Shalit Sign Permit Specialist DOCS – Planning & Zoning (317) 571-2280 ashalit@carmel.in.gov From: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2025 10:41 AM To: Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov>; Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov> Cc: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required (Harvest Church) 1 Angie, I was just following up to see if you or Joe have any questions. I also would be more than happy to meet in person to answer any questions or concerns you may have as well as or reasoning for the request that we have submitted. Thank you again. Regards, Marty Baker Executive Director of Operations mbaker@harvestindy.org From: Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 4:14 PM To: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org>; Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov> Cc: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required (Harvest Church) Thank you, Marty. Joe and I will review this with Aliza and then let you know what BZA variances you need to seek and whether Planning Staff can be supportive of them. 5 signs is a lot to request when only 1 is allowed. You are also requesting all wall signs to not face the street… With variances, you have to prove a practical difficulty to the Board of Zoning Appeals as to why you cannot comply with the zoning ordinance regulations. nd In the meantime, for that 2 proposed Ground Sign have you considered instead utilizing the free/exempt Traffic Directional Sign option? ( It can be up to 3 feet tall and up to 3 sq ft in size.) We will be in touch, soon. Have a nice afternoon. Angie Conn, AICP - Planning Administrator Carmel Planning/Zoning Division, DOCS rd 1 Civic Sq., 3 Flr., Carmel, IN 46202 O: 317.571.2417 W: carmeldocs.com From: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 3:03 PM To: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>; Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> Cc: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required (Harvest Church) Joe and Angie, After compiling the information needed for our Harvest Church sign variance process, I am attached the materials and information from our sign contractor. I hope this can begin moving forward with our variance request for installing a second monument sign at our new south parking lot entrance. Per Aliza’s request, attached are the following: 2 Permitting 1.0 – Legal description of property, proposed building sign on south elevation, proposed building sign on north elevation (removing currently “You Are Loved” sign), proposed building on north elevation of office building. These would be all of the building signs proposed. None of the signs face River Road. Building Signage – Specs for the proposed building signage Permitting – Legal description and specifications on existing River Road monument and Duplicate Monument for Variance Duplicate Monument – Specifications for new additional monument I hope this can continue the process for our sign variance for a second monument sign. Requesting permits and sign variances are not something I do very often, so thank you in advance for guidance and your assistance for this permitting. Regards, Marty Baker Executive Director of Operations mbaker@harvestindy.org From: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 9:00 AM To: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Cc: Shestak, Joe <jshestak@carmel.in.gov>; Conn, Angelina V <Aconn@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required Good Morning Mr. Baker, Thank you for reaching out. I am copying Joe Shestak and Angie Conn who will be your contact point for the variance process. They will guide through the process. Before we can determine which variance process is appropriate, please review the following items:  Other than the existing ground sign, what other signs are present on the building/s?  Is there any other signage being proposed? Per UDO sign standards, this parcel may have one sign per public street frontage (one public street frontage, one sign). During the ADLS Amend review process, there were other proposed signs (canopy signs) as well as multiple existing wall signs/murals. Please provide a full sign plan that should include all existing and proposed signs including incidental directional signs.  The new ground sign must follow present day UDO Sign Standards for ground signs regardless of what the existing ground sign looks like. Please see attached sign standards (sections E, H, and Sign Chart A: Ground Signs). The only UDO requirement that does not apply is the need for a 3 delineated cornice as per the Legacy PUD. Signs must have appropriate landscaping and a base that is as wide and deep as the sign.  The stand-alone construction signs shown in the photos below have not been permitted and are prohibited as installed. Ground signs, temporary or not, must be installed into the ground and must be permitted. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the information and questions in this email. Regards, Aliza Shalit Sign Permit Specialist DOCS – Planning & Zoning (317) 571-2280 ashalit@carmel.in.gov From: Marty Baker <mbaker@harvestindy.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 4:29 PM 4 To: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: FW: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required Aliza, I realized when I submitted for this sign permit that a variance would be needed. What is the process in submitting for a variance? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Regards, Marty Baker Executive Director of Operations mbaker@harvestindy.org From: CarmelWorks@carmel.in.gov <CarmelWorks@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 4:16 PM Subject: City of Carmel Sign Revisions Required Martin Baker , Revisions have been requested for the following permit application: Permit #: S-2025-00018 Address: 14550 RIVER RD Project: Install ground sign at new south parking lot entrance for Harvest Church A variance is required for this sign. Parcel is only allowed to have one sign per street frontage. There already is an existing sign onsite. Please forward requested review materials and updates to ashalit@carmel.in.gov when ready. Do not reply to this email. If you have any questions, please contact Aliza Shalit at (317) 571-2280. THIS IS AN AUTOMATED EMAIL MESSAGE. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. 5