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Home My WebLink AboutCorrespondencePlan Review - Review Comments Report Project Name: PZ-2025-00056 Clay Terrace - Center Identification Sign Workflow Started: 4/2/2025 12:55:11 PM Report Generated: 05/30/2025 11:01 AM REF #CYCLE REVIEWED BY TYPE FILENAME DISCUSSION STATUS 1 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/5/25 11:54 AM Changemark Base design Can more detail be included in the brick work. Something that gives it depth (per previously shared suggestions)? Center Identification Sign Specifications - Clay Terrace.pdf Responded by: Brandy Fahrbach - 5/12/25 3:13 PM The revised drawings show the detail on how the brick is installed. Further details can be found in the Center ID Sign Specifications document. Resolved 2 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/5/25 11:54 AM Changemark Aluminum cap Does this aluminum cap extend far enough to keep sign water tight and away from electrical sign components and to keep water to flow over the edge? Should the brick cornice span farther to prevent water from dripping down directly on to channel letters and sign panels? Please review and update as necessary. Center Identification Sign Specifications - Clay Terrace.pdf Responded by: Brandy Fahrbach - 5/12/25 3:13 PM We will use a cement board (hardie board) that will be attached to the metal sign frame with mechanical fasteners, then brick will be adhered to the hardie with mortar and then grouted in. All exterior signs are manufactured for damp environments and are UL listed. We will have weep holes along the bottom of the structure to allow any water that might get in, a way out. This sign will be 95+% watertight. Further details can be found in the Center ID Sign Specifications Resolved 3 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/5/25 11:57 AM Changemark Landscape l.ights Please include accent lights on this rendering to match landscape plan rendering. Center Identification Sign Specifications - Clay Terrace.pdf Responded by: Brandy Fahrbach - 5/12/25 3:13 PM Further details can be found in the Center ID Sign Specifications Resolved 4 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/5/25 11:59 AM Comment All signs require a sign permit application and review process. Please apply for a sign permit when ADLS Amend process has been completed. Info Only 5 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/5/25 12:01 PM Changemark Sign Plan The approval of the ground sign is contingent of work continuing on the approval of the full Clay Terrace Sign Plan. Please make sure to start the application process for this full plan at your earliest convenience. Wayfinding Signage - Full Package - Clay Terrace.pdf Info Only 6 1 Sign Permits Aliza Shalit 5/5/25 12:01 PM Changemark Entrance center ID A02 Will this sign also be updated or will this wait until the full plan is approved? Wayfinding Signage - Full Package - Clay Terrace.pdf Responded by: Brandy Fahrbach - 5/12/25 3:10 PM We plan to wait until the full plan is approved to update A03 (secondary entrance identity). Question REVIEW COMMENTS Created in ProjectDox version 9.4.9.4 From:Brandy Fahrbach To:Shalit, Aliza Subject:RE: Ground sign Date:Thursday, May 29, 2025 2:51:45 PM Attachments:image009.png image010.png image011.png image012.png image013.png image014.png image001.png 02-031 25 MONUMENT TENANT SIGN R4.pdf Aliza, Please see the revised attached and advise. As it relates to your questions, we will use a cement board (hardie board) that will be attached to the metal sign frame with mechanical fasteners, then brick will be adhered to the hardie with mortar and then grouted in. The aluminum panel will be under the brick so you don't see the holes. It will get painted to match the tan brick. All exteriorsigns are manufactured for damp environmentsand are UL listed. We will have weep holes along the bottom of the structure to allow any water that might get in, a way out. This sign will be 95+% water tight. Some moisture may occur, but not flooding of any nature. Thank you, Brandy Brandy Fahrbach Development Manager E bfahrbach@wpgus.com O 614.887.5839 M 614.981.0228 CONFIDENTIAL AND NON-BINDING STATEMENT: This e-mail and all other electronic communications from Washington Prime Group Holdings L.P. , or any of its affiliates and their respective representatives are for informational purposes only, and no such communication is intended by the sender to constitute an electronic signature, electronic record or any agreement by the sender to conduct a transaction by electronic means. The parties do not intend to be bound by this communication or any agreement until both agree to and sign a formal written contract, and neither party may reasonably rely on any promises inconsistent with this paragraph. All pages included in this e-mail are intended for the use of the party to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, any dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email reply and please delete this message from your computer and destroy any copies. From: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 10:55 AM To: Brandy Fahrbach <BFahrbach@wpgus.com> Subject: RE: Ground sign Thank you! I hate making you update drawings again, the renderings don’t show the brick, they still show the white aluminum cap. Is it ok if I use this, I just updated your document (page 4) with the top of the same graphic in the last iteration. I can do the same with the night view so you don’t have to go back to your designer/sign co. Can you please explain where the Alum. Brick base goes? Does it go under the brick cap to prevent water seeping through the brick perforations? Thanks, Aliza Shalit Sign Permit Specialist DOCS – Planning & Zoning (317) 571-2280 ashalit@carmel.in.gov From: Brandy Fahrbach <BFahrbach@wpgus.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 10:41 AM To: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: Ground sign Good morning, Aliza, Please see attached from our sign manufacturer and advise. I agree, the new sign is going to look so great!! Thank you, Brandy Fahrbach Development Manager E bfahrbach@wpgus.com O 614.887.5839 M 614.981.0228 CONFIDENTIAL AND NON-BINDING STATEMENT: This e-mail and all other electronic communications from Washington Prime Group Holdings L.P. , or any of its affiliates and their respective representatives are for informational purposes only, and no such communication is intended by the sender to constitute an electronic signature, electronic record or any agreement by the sender to conduct a transaction by electronic means. The parties do not intend to be bound by this communication or any agreement until both agree to and sign a formal written contract, and neither party may reasonably rely on any promises inconsistent with this paragraph. All pages included in this e-mail are intended for the use of the party to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, any dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email reply and please delete this message from your computer and destroy any copies. From: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 9:35 AM To: Brandy Fahrbach <BFahrbach@wpgus.com> Subject: RE: Ground sign Thank you, I hope the sign company thinks this is a viable solution to get the best of both designs. Thank you so much for working with me on this. I know this will look great! Aliza Shalit Sign Permit Specialist DOCS – Planning & Zoning (317) 571-2280 ashalit@carmel.in.gov From: Brandy Fahrbach <BFahrbach@wpgus.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:29 PM To: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: Ground sign We are working on a revision. I’ll get this to you by tomorrow. Thanks Aliza! Brandy Fahrbach Development Manager E bfahrbach@wpgus.com O 614.887.5839 M 614.981.0228 CONFIDENTIAL AND NON-BINDING STATEMENT: This e-mail and all other electronic communications from Washington Prime Group Holdings L.P. , or any of its affiliates and their respective representatives are for informational purposes only, and no such communication is intended by the sender to constitute an electronic signature, electronic record or any agreement by the sender to conduct a transaction by electronic means. The parties do not intend to be bound by this communication or any agreement until both agree to and sign a formal written contract, and neither party may reasonably rely on any promises inconsistent with this paragraph. All pages included in this e-mail are intended for the use of the party to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, any dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email reply and please delete this message from your computer and destroy any copies. From: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 2:26 PM To: Brandy Fahrbach <BFahrbach@wpgus.com> Subject: RE: Ground sign Hi Brandy, I understand. Is this a possibility? Keep the brick at the full width (24”) and add a color matched aluminum cap (small) to block the water and seal the top. This is a fabrication thing the sign company can answer. I am not sure. It would be nice to keep the brick detail at the full width to prevent water dripping over the panels and lettering and still seal the top but also allowing access by removing the minimal aluminum cover. Just throwing it out there. Thanks, Aliza Shalit Sign Permit Specialist DOCS – Planning & Zoning (317) 571-2280 ashalit@carmel.in.gov From: Brandy Fahrbach <BFahrbach@wpgus.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 1:40 PM To: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Subject: RE: Ground sign Hi Aliza, Good to hear from you. I hope you are on the mend. Regarding the below, we changed it to an aluminum cap so that it would cover and protect the letters (per the request). Sticks past 3" on both sides and if we use a brick, brick has holes in it, so that won't work. Two options, we can paint the cap to match closely to the tan brick, or we can reduce the top width back to the 21 inches per the previous revision. Please advise. Thank you! Brandy Fahrbach Development Manager E bfahrbach@wpgus.com O 614.887.5839 M 614.981.0228 CONFIDENTIAL AND NON-BINDING STATEMENT: This e-mail and all other electronic communications from Washington Prime Group Holdings L.P. , or any of its affiliates and their respective representatives are for informational purposes only, and no such communication is intended by the sender to constitute an electronic signature, electronic record or any agreement by the sender to conduct a transaction by electronic means. The parties do not intend to be bound by this communication or any agreement until both agree to and sign a formal written contract, and neither party may reasonably rely on any promises inconsistent with this paragraph. All pages included in this e-mail are intended for the use of the party to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, any dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email reply and please delete this message from your computer and destroy any copies. From: Shalit, Aliza <ashalit@carmel.in.gov> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:43 PM To: Brandy Fahrbach <bfahrbach@wpgus.com> Subject: Ground sign Hi Brandy, I hope you are well. I am sorry for the delay on this. I was out on vacation and came back really sick (cough, fever, ear/sinus infections, laryngitis…worse I have had in years). The updates look great! I was wondering what happened to the cap? It used to be brick…could we go back to that detail or at least color match the base. The white cap breaks down the framing of the rest of the sign and blends too much with the “Clay Terrace” just below it. I want to approve this, so if you get me updated drawings for this, I can upload them and get this done for you. Thanks, Aliza Shalit Sign Permit Specialist City of Carmel DOCS - Planning & Zoning One Civic Square, Carmel, IN 46032 (317) 571-2280 ashalit@carmel.in.gov --