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City of Carmel
CARMEL COMMON COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
MONDAY, MAY 19, 2025 – 6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS/CITY HALL/ONE CIVIC SQUARE
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
Council Members: Ryan Locke, Teresa Ayers, Matthew Snyder, Rich Taylor, Jeff Worrell, Anita Joshi,
Anthony Green and Deputy Clerk Jessica Komp were present. Councilor Shannon Minnaar attended
virtually. Council President Adam Aasen was not in attendance.
Council Vice President Snyder called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
AGENDA APPROVAL
The agenda was approved 8-0.
INVOCATION
Carmel Police Department Chaplain George Davis delivered the invocation.
RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS
Carmel High School Sophomore, Sadie Cohen, was highlighted for her community service initiative “Sadie
Smiles for Seniors.” Ms. Cohen proudly represented Carmel as she was crowned 2025 Miss Cardinal’s Teen,
an official preliminary to the Miss Indiana and Miss America’s Teen Scholarship Organizations. Ms. Cohen
is a member of the National Grand Champion Show Choir, the Carmel Ambassadors. She is also a two-time
Songbook Academy finalist. Through her platform, Ms. Cohen created “Sadie Smiles for Seniors”, with the
goal of creating meaningful connections across generations to support and advocate for older adults. She
uses the uplifting power of music to connect with Seniors while singing at Senior facilities. She visits K-12
classrooms and speaks with students about the mutual benefits of spending time with Seniors. She recruits
young people for the various events and programs she is involved with that support Seniors. She invites you
to follow her journey and support her initiative on Instagram @SadieSmilesforSeniors or
@misscardinalteenin.
RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
Ron Carter, former City Councilor, spoke to Council. He stated that the new affiliate review ordinance is a
bad ordinance, designed to fix the flaws of the original measure that was taken, which caused so much
trouble. He suggested that before this ordinance is passed, a comprehensive list be made of all of the entities
to be reviewed, as this will be a big list. He then directed questions to Mayor Finkam, stating that the Carmel
brand was well liked by citizens, and did not need to be updated. He questioned the reasoning of mold issues
for changes made to City Hall, such as the removal of wallpaper and flooring, wall adornments, and furniture
changes. He believes City Hall now appears sterile due to these changes.
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Barbara West spoke to Council about the proposed “Autumn Greenway”. She believes this path is not
needed, as there is already a paved path between Old Meridian and the Monon that can be accessed north on
Guilford through Meadowlark Park. She is also concerned about the displacement of wildlife resulting from
the removal of trees for this path. She believes a feasibility study for this path would be expensive due to the
electric and gas sources that exist in that area.
Dr. Freddie Kelvin spoke next. Dr. Kelvin is also an artist and an author. His book “Embracing the World’s
Faiths” is a concise summary of ten of the world’s faiths, written in collaboration with members of the
Center for Interfaith Cooperation. Dr. Kelvin believes that a dynamic and increasingly diverse city such as
Carmel will welcome the opportunity to better understand and respect the belief systems of others, which is
so needed today. Dr. Kelvin’s book is available through bookbaby.com. He hopes to also make it available at
the Carmel Clay Public Library along with a photographic exhibit depicting many of the world’s faiths.
Frances Gileno spoke to Council about a DORA (Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area) sign that was
painted on the sidewalk in front of her home. She is concerned that citizens will believe they can drink
alcohol on her property, as well as the KinderCare daycare center that is next door. She believes this sign
was painted in error and would like to see it removed. Councilor Snyder responded that her property is
private, and not part of the DORA. Councilor Worrell, Chair of the DORA Committee, responded that there
is an established process for complaints, and that he would look into this issue right away. He also shared
that the committee will have a meeting in the next quarter.
Scott McLaughlin, a resident of the Cottages of Carmel, spoke to Council in opposition to the Autumn
Greenway that will run through his neighborhood and two others. He stated that it only reduces the distance
between Guilford and 3rd Avenue by 0.3 miles. He asked if an environmental study had been done to weigh
the impact of the wooded area being removed. He also thinks that with the funds Carmel will lose with the
passing of SB-1, this would be a good project to drop.
Mark Stevens, another resident of the Cottages of Carmel, also spoke in opposition to the Autumn
Greenway. He stated that at its widest point, the wooded area is only about 190 feet across, so a great deal of
the greenspace will be lost by paving a trail through it. He also believes that the money to be spent on this
project could be better spent on something more needed than this unnecessary path.
Chad Trenshaw next spoke to Council regarding the Autumn Greenway, also in opposition. He stated the
proposed path would go through his backyard. He wishes there would be a meeting to discuss this before
money is spent on this project, allowing the citizens who are opposed to present their reasons. He believes
this process has not been transparent nor communicated well.
COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS
Councilor Green stated that we missed the opportunity to take a photo with our Outstanding Citizen during
that portion of the meeting, and we should do that after the Mayoral Comments.
Councilor Snyder spoke about the Autumn Greenway. He stated that the survey stakes placed in
people’syards were the beginning of a feasibility study. All projects must be properly vetted, data must be
gathered. Councilor Snyder stated that he has met with or talked to almost every one of the people who
spoke today, so communication is happening. To run the proposed trail any other direction will cost 2-3
times more. The path along City Center Drive is not a pedestrian friendly trail, as there is no safety barrier
between the sidewalk and the road. The trees that would be taken down are dying as we speak right now. The
Urban Forester has been out there. It is not a natural wetland, it is man-made and has no positive
environmental impact. It, in fact, has a detrimental impact. Councilor Snyder told residents that when the
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survey was completed, the findings would be presented in a public meeting with the neighborhood. This will
still happen. This was a citizen-led project, it was not created by Council or the Mayor. Citizens who did
research were looking for a safe path from east to west, and this idea was presented to Council. We are still
researching it. The money is there for it, but it not guaranteed to happen. Alternative ideas can be discussed
at the public meeting. We are getting deep into the weeds on a project that is still in the research phase.
Surveyors go into right of ways adjacent to private property all the time. Councilor Snyder did acknowledge
that letters meant to be mailed out to those property owners did not go out, and that was a mistake for which
we apologize.
Kate Krumsee, 5th grade student at Cherry Tree Elementary, presented the Mayor’s report to Council. Earlier
this month, Mayor Finkam met with Girl Scout troops from Clay Center and Prairie Trace Elementaries, to
highlight the importance of getting youth involved in local government. Recently we received letters from
Miss Raasch’s 2nd grade students at Carmel Elementary. These letters included suggestions on how to make
Carmel a better place to live. We are very appreciative of their thoughtful input. The Mayor also participated
in the Home Place Block Party and dedicated Carmel’s newest art piece, a red-tailed hawk sculpture, to our
neighbors in Home Place. She thanked Councilor Green for helping to make this project become a reality.
Finally, last Tuesday the Mayor visited the STARTedUP Foundation event where students showcased their
biomedical sciences projects, and she was very impressed with their creativity. Mayor Finkam is committed
to supporting these educational programs, as Carmel’s need for professionals in the health care field
continues to grow. The Mayor further commented that this biomedical showcase was phenomenal.
CONSENT AGENDA
a. Approval of Minutes
1. May 5, 2025 Regular Meeting
Councilor Joshi moved to approve the May 5, 2025 meeting minutes. Councilor Green seconded. There was
no discussion. Councilor Snyder called for the vote. The minutes were approved 7-0. (Councilor Worrell
stepped away from the dais.)
b. Claims
1. Payroll – $4,237,225.79
2. General Claims – $2,694,317.42
3. Wire Transfers – $12,623,260.56
Councilor Green moved to approve the claims. Councilor Taylor seconded. There was no discussion.
Councilor Snyder called for the vote. The claims were approved 8-0.
ACTION ON MAYORAL VETOES
There were none.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Councilor Taylor reported that the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee will be meeting on Wednesday,
May 28th at 6:00 p.m. in Council Chambers. Discussion at the May 13th meeting included the Ambulance
Capital Fund, residential rental caps, and Ordinance D-2771-25, the North End Phase II TIF bond ordinance,
which was passed unanimously.
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Councilor Joshi reported that the Land Use and Special Studies Committee met on Wednesday May 7th.
Discussion was focused on Ordinance D-2769-25, regarding the need for a valid permit to park a vehicle on
a multi-use path, sidewalk or bicycle lane. That discussion will continue at the next Land Use meeting,
which will take place this Wednesday, May 21st at 5:30 p.m., at the Carmel Library.
OTHER REPORTS – (at the first meeting of the month specified below):
Carmel Clay Parks and Recreation Director, Michael Klitzing, gave the quarterly report to Council. He let
Councilor Snyder know that the survey results for the Autumn Greenway should be received this week. He
then spoke to Council about the Park Resource Officer Program that was implemented this year. Police Chief
Drake Sterling introduced Park Resource Officers Caleb Law and Clifton Hoag, who both came to us after
four years with IMPD. Both Chief Sterling and Director Klitzing thanked the Council and the Mayor for
their support of this program. Director Klitzing shared that The Waterpark season is almost upon us, opening
on Saturday, May 24th. From May 24 – August 3, the park will be open daily from 11 AM – 7 PM. After
school begins in the fall, The Waterpark will be open from August 9 – September 1 on weekends only, and
on Labor Day, from 12 PM – 6 PM. This is exciting news, as this year CCPR has recruited enough lifeguards
to allow The Waterpark to remain operating during the August weekends. Also, there are still limited spots
available with the Summer Camp Series. This summer the 2025 Summer Fun Run/Walk Series will run from
June 16 – August 10. The $35 registration fee benefits the Carmel Clay Parks Foundation. All participants
will receive a race t-shirt and a race sticker. To register, visit CarmelClayParks.com. Lawrence W. Inlow
park will be closed briefly this week for the resurfacing of the three play pods. This closure is due to an
adhesion issue with the rubber play surfaces. This is a recognized national issue, affecting park systems
nationwide, not just here in Carmel. This repair is under warranty and will be of no cost to the taxpayers.
There will also be some mill and fill work done to the parking lot, to help control water flow. The park will
only be closed for a few days and will be reopened for the Memorial Day weekend. All four splash pads will
be opening this weekend. We anticipate the White River Greenway North Extension to be opening this fall.
At Hazel Landing Park, progress continues on the pedestrian bridge that crosses over the White River. It will
connect Hazel Landing Park in Carmel to Heritage Park in Fishers. Finally, at the Monon Community
Center, the Monon Station indoor playground will be opening soon. There will be ribbon cutting ceremony
on Friday, June 13th.
Councilor Taylor thanked Director Klitzing for his update and voiced his support for the Park Resource
Officer Program. He asked about the adhesion issue with the playground surface. Director Klitzing
responded that we have had this issue at both Inlow Park and Meadowlark Park. These playground surfaces
were installed by different vendors. It is not a workmanship issue, it is a product issue. Councilor Snyder
commented on how these play surfaces are specially engineered to protect children from falls. He also
reiterated with Director Klitzing that Hazel Landing Park is not open yet.
OLD BUSINESS
Councilor Snyder announced the seventh reading of Ordinance D-2762-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 5, Sections 8-37, 8-47, and 8-48 of the
Carmel City Code; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. This item remains in the Land Use and Special Studies
Committee.
Councilor Snyder announced the fifth reading of Ordinance D-2767-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 2, Article 4, Section 2-96 of the Carmel City
Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Taylor and Snyder. This remains in the Finance, Utilities and Rules
Committee.
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Councilor Snyder announced the third reading of Ordinance D-2769-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 6, Article 4, Section 6-63 of the Carmel City
Code; Sponsor(s): Taylor and Ayers. This item remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.
Councilor Snyder announced the third reading of Ordinance D-2770-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Adopting a New Article 6 Under Chapter 4 of the Carmel City Code;
Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Aasen, Taylor, Snyder and Ayers. This item remains in the Finance, Utilities and
Rules Committee.
Councilor Snyder announced the second reading of Ordinance D-2771-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing the Issuance of Economic Development Tax Increment
Revenue Bonds to Support the North End Phase II Project, and Authorizing and Approving Other Actions in
Respect Thereto; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. This item remains in the Finance, Utilities and Rules
Committee.
Councilor Snyder announced the second reading of Ordinance D-2772-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Adopting a New Article 8 Under Chapter 2 of the Carmel City Code;
Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Aasen, Ayers, Minnaar, Snyder and Worrell. This item remains in the Finance,
Utilities and Rules Committee.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
NEW BUSINESS
Councilor Snyder announced the first reading of Ordinance D-2773-25; An Ordinance of the Common
Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving and Adopting a Revised Interlocal Agreement; Sponsor:
Councilor Aasen. Councilor Snyder introduced the item to Council. CRC Director Henry Mestetsky
explained that this ordinance corrects a Scribner’s error in Ordinance D-2754-25, which was passed by
Council on January 7th of this year. That ordinance approved and adopted an interlocal agreement with
Hamilton County, Indiana, concerning the U.S. 31 Ramps Economic Development Area (Parcels at Clay
Terrace and BJ’s Wholesale Club.) After receiving initial approval from the Carmel Common Council, the
corrected version was then approved by the Carmel Redevelopment Commission, the Hamilton County
Redevelopment Commission, the County Council and the County Commissioners. Director Mestetsky
explained that we now need this body to approve the updated version as well. The updated version specifies
that TIF funds flowing to the County can be used to pay debt service on the outstanding bonds, which is what
was presented to Council previously, but that language didn’t make it into the original document. Councilor
Worrell asked how a mistake like this could have happened, and from where did we receive the original
document. Director Mestetsky answered that we received it from the County, and then shortly after Council
approved it, the mistake was realized, and the corrected version was sent to the other approving bodies for
signature. Several Councilors expressed concern with the new language, stating that they had previously
believed that any funds collected beyond what was owed on the outstanding bonds would be used for 146th
Street improvements, but now it sounds like those additional funds may or may not be used for 146th Street,
at the County’s discretion. Director Mestetsky agreed that the County has to pay the debt on the outstanding
bonds first, but beyond that, the County can decide to use the funds for 146th Street improvements as they
flow in, or borrow against future revenue by issuing new debt for those improvements. Councilor Snyder
sent this item to the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee for further discussion, especially in light of the
impending financial formula changes for our city.
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AGENDA ADD-ON ITEMS
There were none.
OTHER BUSINESS
Councilor Snyder stated that the new committee being referred to as “The Investigation Committee”, which
was created at the May 5th Council meeting, needs a chairperson. Councilor Worrell moved to nominate
Councilor Ryan Locke to chair said committee. Councilor Ayers seconded the motion. Councilor Worrell
asked Councilor Locke if he was still interested in chairing this committee. Councilor Locke replied in the
affirmative. There was no further discussion. Councilor Snyder called for the vote. Nomination of Ryan
Locke to chair “The Investigation Committee” approved, 8-0.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
There were none.
ADJOURNMENT
Councilor Snyder adjourned the meeting at 7:16 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
_______________________________
Jacob Quinn, Clerk
Approved,
ATTEST: _______________________________
Adam Aasen, Council President
_______________________________
Jacob Quinn, Clerk
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