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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes TAC 03-19-03CARMEL/CLAY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES MARCH 19, 2003 Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept. Scott Brewer, Carmel Urban Forester Jenny Chapman, Hamilton Co. Surveyor Dick Hill, Carmel Engineer’s Ofc. Steve Broerman, Hamilton Co. Highway Mike McBride, Carmel Engineer’s Ofc. John South, Hamilton Co. Soil & Water Jon Dobosiewicz, DOCS Indiana Development Training Center (Development Plan) The applicant seeks to construct a building addition. The site is located at 11075 North Pennsylvania Street. The site is zoned B-5/Business. Filed by Richard F. Steldt of Richard F. Steldt and Associates for J. B. & M. J. M. of Indiana, Inc. Bob Doster, Schneider Corporation; Richard F. Steldt, Architects, for applicant, seeking to construct a major building addition to the front of the site. Applicant states drainage pattern essentially the same. Jenny Chapman, Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office, sent comment letter regarding drainage. Will need an outlet permit. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy, addition to the building will not interfere with existing service off east side of building. Need load calculations. Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE, questioned type of training—petitioner states facility is for developmentally challenged youth for classroom and conventional training—focusing on vocational. New building will be 2-story; existing building is one story; square footage approximately 42,000. Building will be sprinklered, occupant load—space for 95 plus 40/50 staff. The existing building will be dorm rooms; the addition will be classrooms. The breezeway building will have very little change. The building front on the south side will have very little remodeling. Applicant will probably expand dining room. A number of exits are throughout the center. The new addition will exit to the public walkways. There will also be a gymnasium. The breezeway will be masonry, with one-hour fire resistance between walls. Applicant states in the affirmative for a construction trailer. Jim Blanchard distributed a checklist for pre-submittal meeting prior to the issuance of an Improvement Location Permit. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Department has received drawings. The applicant confirms no basement. The connection location is still on the east side of the building. Note: Remote enunciator panel requested—applicant will comply. Knocksbox to be re-located to the new front--one to the rear to be left as is. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester is happy with plans but stated nothing can be planted in legal drains. Jon Dobosiewicz, DOCS had few corrections, notations on plans. Site does fall within the Home Place Overlay and variance not needed for buffer, however, 10 feet is the minimum requirement. To the north, (Pennsylvania Street side) 30-foot one-half right-of-way is requested. Applicant/petitioner will meet with City Engineer regarding dedication of right-of-way on Pennsylvania--petitioner will request as part of development plan approval. Will need less than 60 feet because of the centerline—Engineer to clarify. Jon D will try to get with Dick Hill but recommends petitioner call City Engineer in the meantime. Also, applicant is requested to connect walkway from building to the parking lot; 10 foot asphalt path along collectors and arterials—petitioner will work with City Engineer. Will need written commitment submitted to the Dept. for recording. Meridian North Medical (Development Plan) The applicant seeks to construct a multi-tenant building. The site is located at the southwest corner of 136th Street and US 31. The site is zoned B-5/Business and is within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Adam Dehart of Keeler-Webb Associates for F. C. C. Development Corporation. Present for petitioner: Adam DeHart, Keller Webb Associates; Robert Marr, Olympia Real Estate; Frank Cosmas, FCC Development. Current site is the piece of property left over at the time Beeson Cosmetic Surgery building was approved. The building will be 2-stories, approximately ¾ tenants, some storage. The entrance for ingress/egress for both properties will be shared with minor revisions to the street design; the street is now annexed to the City. Petitioner has talked with City Engineer as to how to handle dedication and entrance. Utilities are available at the site, including sanitary. A new, large water main is to be installed across the site to accommodate St. Vincent’s expansion. Jenny Chapman, Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office., requests outlet permit to legal drain along U.S. 31—should be labeled on plans as Hunter-Knoll legal drain. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy has no comment—building is all-electric. Steve Broerman, Hamilton County Highway, no comment Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE, has not yet received plans—no comment. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept., sent letter requesting a hydrant across from proposed side of the building where existing water line is located (south side of “dog bone.”) The building is sprinklered—request fire alarm panel located at main entrance; also request knocksbox. Basement? Petitioner states there is a walkout, mainly for utilities and storage, and also will be sprinklered. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester, says “Nix” to Bradford Pear species—not very hearty. Scott recommends Jade Trees—ornamental. Would like to see plantings, trees, etc. in the area south of the building, also shrubs on the southeast side. Foundation plantings required in accordance with the Overlay Zone requirements—9 ornamental required; 6 more evergreens required, 45 shrubs total. The interior parking lot area requires 45 shrubs, 9 shade trees—plan needs to incorporate. MikeMcBride, Carmel Engineering does not have a detailed comment letter as yet--will meet with DOCS before sending out. Bill Akers, Communications NOT in attendance, but did submit comment letter regarding addressing. Jon D, DOCS says owner committed to the State to take down right-of-way fence, and to close the entrance on 136th Street upon extension of Illinois Street. At that time, the parcel was a single tract—was the single entrance shown on Development Plan? At any rate, the entire site needs to be platted into two separate lots to accommodate the commitments on this site. The right-of-way dedicated on Smokey Row Road is 45 foot per one-half--60 foot half from Oakridge Road round-about identified at this intersection. The plan is for a 60-foot corner cut to allow for additional radius of future round-about. Petitioner will show the sidewalk between the parking lot and the path. The petitioner will locate dumpster enclosure on plans and submit “Golden Section Analysis.” A 45-foot one-half right-of-way is requested along 136th Street. Frank Cosmas will get in touch with Bill Akers regarding addressing—Gary Hoyt would like to see the property addressed off Illinois Street. Mark Swanson Building (Development Plan) The applicant seeks to construct a multi-tenant building. The site is located at 550 East 106th Street. The site is zoned B-5/Business and is within the Home Place District Overlay Zone. Filed by Mark A. Swanson. Present for petitioner: Mark Swanson and Dennis Lockwood, MSA, Inc. Proposal is to build a new office building on 106th Street between Park Avenue on the east and Ruckle Street on the west. The site is 6.9 acres; the building will be 7,000 square feet. Drawings have been submitted to all TAC members—some comment letters received. Jenny Chapman, Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office sent comment letter. Will follow up with Kent Ward regarding drainage swale. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy, will be the contact person for gas at site. Steve Broerman, County Highway said one big issue is the relocation of the sanitary sewer to connect into Park Avenue so that one of the road cuts can be eliminated. If the road cut is moved to Park Avenue, then storm and sanitary can be done at one time—one patch. The outlet into the roadside ditch is going to be addressed somehow—as in reference by Jenny Chapman to follow with Kent Ward. Nothing additional from comment letter. Mark Swanson said he received a letter from the Regional Waste District requesting petitioner address sanitary sewer to existing manhole—the only existing manhole is at the intersection of Park and Ruckle—this must be clarified. Possible to run storm and sanitary in the same trench? Steve Broerman says “No,” would be one patch in the road rather than two—reiterate petitioner cut once for storm and sanitary. Another issue—stormwater into existing swale. Petitioner is splitting half the water to the east in existing catch basin—on the west to a ditch along roadside. The discharge on Pak is OK into existing drain. Direct Outlet Permit to legal drain needed. Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE asked if there would be a construction trailer—petitioner responds “Probably Not.” Jim requested pre-submittal meeting and gave petitioner a checklist. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept. sent comment letter—building sprinklered? Petitioner responded in the negative. Building will be two stories, about 27 feet to the parapet with an extended stairway higher for access to rooftop mechanical equipment. Knocksbox requested—petitioner will comply. John Duffy, Carmel Utilities, no comment Scott Brewer, Urban Forester, 7 more shrubs needed on both east and west sides. Parking areas located in side yard need to be screened from the street with a 6-foot right-of-way—planting strip to consist of 3 shade trees and 30 shrubs per 100 feet. The property is short 15 shrubs across front—petitioner will look at. Scott says landscape buffer required across north side of lot. Petitioner will work with Scott Brewer. John South, County Soil & Water, gave comment letter to petitioner—does not have to meet requirements of Rule 5, NOI, etc. for erosion control on construction site. However, John South recommends some erosion control practices to be shown on plans as far as construction. Construction entrance, perimeter silt fence, inlet protection, etc. should be included on the plans. Dick Hill, Carmel Engineer’s Office, project outside City jurisdiction. Jon Dobisiewicz gave petitioner comment letter/memo from Bill Akers, Communications—recommend petitioner contact Bill Akers directly. Jon D, DOCS said Ordinance requires 5-foot sidewalk to path along 106th Street, corner cuts to be prepared and dedicated to County for right-of-way. Request curve past pathway connection—concrete approach to street on both sides of path—setbacks are good. Jon requests petitioner plant something to create a hedge along corners. Ordinance requires bike parking at some locations. Jon has not received building elevations and photometrics/cutsheet—Jon requests flat lens, shoebox fixtures—needs to know height of poles. Petitioner is permitted 3 signs; square footage is a little large—proximity to right-of-way applies. Towne Pointe (Primary Plat) The applicant seeks approval of a Primary Plat for a 28-lot residential subdivision on 25.1± acres. The site is located on the northeast corner of West 131st Street and Towne Road. The site is zoned S-1/Residence - Estate. Filed by the Elliot Wright Group, LLC. Present for Petitioner: Chuck Wright, Elliott Wright Group, Engineer of Record; Terry Quillman, associate with BCZ Group. Proposal is for a new subdivision on the northeast corner of Towne Road and 131st Street. Property has low points in a couple of areas, the watershed is the centerline of Towne Road. Path for stormwater outlet is across Brenwick’s property to the east into shallow open swale—temporary. Petitioner trying to follow S-1 Zoning, 115-125-foot lots. One variance requested for length of cul-de-sac, 600 feet to 850 feet. Lots are mostly one-half acre, home prices one-half million dollars. The plat incorporates two properties, one to the north, one to south, (Block A and B) NOT subject to covenants and restrictions. Petitioner will work for right-of-way on the opposite side of site. Jenny Chapman, County Surveyor’s Office, says this will be a regulated subdivision. Will send comment letter. Petitioner will submit info for waivers. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy says gas located at 131st Street—will come up Towne Road for service. Steve Broerman, County Highway says petitioner will also need a variance from the County Board of Commissioners—petitioner will contact Kim Roesch in the Auditor’s Office for date and time. Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE asks if there are any existing structures to be demolished—petitioner says there are wells, septics in area; sub-surface drain installed by Weihe Engineers about 60 feet off back property line—petitioner will intercept somewhere along the line. Jim Blanchard asked the petitioner to contact Morris Hensley, City Utilities regarding abandoning wells. No model home proposed. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept sent comment letter. Petitioner states this will not be a gated community and no amenity building proposed. Purpose of cul-de-sac length? Petitioner does not want another entrance into the subdivision—Fire Dept would prefer another entrance off 131st Street of at least emergency access pavers from cul-de-sac to 131st Street. Petitioner said they have addressed sanitary sewer invert. Brenwick could come in and follow the same line and that would help petitioner with slopes and Brenwick is interested in pursuing that, probably within the next year or so. Gary Hoyt requested an emergency turn-around at the east end of President’s Street in the event Brenwick’s project does not meet the petitioner’s timeline. JohnDuffy, Carmel Utilities, can service from main north or west. Petitioner will set up meeting with John Duffy for service. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester requests separate open space plan, labeled. Scott also needs a separate landscape plan showing numbers and species—must coordinate with emergency exit. John South, Hamilton County Soil & Water, concerned with dry basin effectiveness—suggest petitioner use wet, mazic plants. John will send Terry a drawing of existing tiles; John recommends tile under wet basin—each house site should have access to sub-drainage. Some thought should be given to future connections to existing lots when laying out the sewer line—septic does not last forever. The proposal is a neat, in-fill project. John South said the soil types are very wet and basements are NOT recommended. Dick Hill, City Engineer, property is out of Carmel jurisdiction. Does timing of development coincide with annexation? Jon Dobosiewicz responded property will be annexed February, 2004 and is currently to County Standards. Bill Akers, Communication, comments submitted to petitioner in memo form--requests monumentation between subdivisions indicating change. Jon D., DOCS said the Ordinance along Towne Road and 131st Street calls for maximum improvement, one-half right-of-way. Jon asked developer to prepare an engineer’s estimate between County requirements and maximum level of improvements. Jon asked for commitment from petitioner for close proximity of development or work with neighbors for right-of-way. Wexley Chase (Secondary Plat and Construction Plans) The applicant seeks approval of a 40-lot residential subdivision on 29.974± acres. The site is located on the north side of West 126th Street, ½ mile west of Towne Road. The site is zoned S-1/Residence - Estate. Filed by David Warshauer for GWZ-2 Development, LLC. Present for petitioner: Mark Zukerman, Glenda Garrison, David Warshauer of GWZ Development and Lance Ferrell of Banning Engineering. Letters have been received from most TAC members. Project is on the north side of 146th Street, just west of Towne Road. Proposal is for a 40-lot subdivision. Jenny Chapman, County Surveyor’s Office sent letter. Proposal is regulated subdivision, off-site easement required. Upstream/off-site—acreage required. Petitioner states the corner by the Creek is being left natural and undisturbed. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy said project has been assigned to design. Gas will come from east, down on the south side, and across Shelbourne Road—no problem with layout. Steve Broerman, County Highway, has nothing further to add to letter. Developer is pursuing coordination with school. Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE has no further comment. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept., says all OK and nothing further at this time. John Duffy, Carmel Utilities has awarded bids for water main to school from the south side of the road. Scot Brewer, Urban Forester requests a copy of the plans for review. John South, County Soil & Water, sent FAX to Lance Ferrell. John South mainly interested in sequencing and perimeter controls. The plan does not very well indicate how sediment will be kept out of the open ditch. Petitioner will submit something. Dry basin along corner makes sense, probably temporary diversion swale would be good. Culverts along 126th Street to be protected—petitioner will specify to contractor. John South recommends permanent erosion control blanket between two structures; needs to be some inlet protection. Detail needed for flared in-sections 115 and 120—more detail requested on individual home sites. There is strong possibility of existing wells on the property and these should be abandoned properly through the County and Clay Township. Jon D., DOCS requests petitioner add area map to the plat as well as Docket numbers and public access to pathways. Jon D says that based on entrance detail across from school, paths are outside the right-of-way and additional right-of-way needs to be dedicated to bring them within. Due to additional capacity of traffic entering school, Jon D requests petitioner extend decel lane and taper to allow for more stacking for left turn into school. No additional comments at this time. Petitioner states product will probably be Pulte Homes. Ballantrae Subdivision (Primary Plat) The site is located on the south side of 146th Street 1/4 mile west of Spring Mill Road. The site is zoned S-1/Residence – Very Low Intensity. Filed by David Barnes of Weihe Engineers, Inc. TABLED Eagle Ridge Subdivision, Section 1 (Secondary Plat and Construction Plans) The site is located on the north side of West 116th Street, 1/4 mile east of US 421. The site is zoned S-1/Residence - Estate. Filed by David Sexton of Schneider Engineering for Dura Development, Inc. Present for Petitioner: Dave Sexton of Schneider Engineering; Craig H. Lintner, Paul Shoopman, and Ernie Reno of Dura Companies; Charlie Frankenberger, Nelson & Frankenberger attorneys. The development is located on the south side of 121st Street between Shelbourne and Michigan Road. The first section consists of 122 lots; plans were prepared three years ago and are now being re-submitted to go through the process. Jenny Chapman, Hamilton County Surveyor’s Office said this is a regulated subdivision—sent comment letter. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy, regarding Section I off 121st Street, will extend facility from west to east and then make another connection to the final section. Steve Broerman, Hamilton County Highway, has not yet finished review. Would like to see the entire entrance on 121st Street constructed—will want right-of-way dedicated. Same way with 116th Street, would like to see all improvements made when the entrance is constructed. Steve requests a meeting with petitioner to bring every one up to speed. OK to extend sanitary/storm drain, concern for damage, however. The draining of the existing pond through the road location—will take a long time to dry out. The petitioner’s plan was to drain the lake to the ease, create a dam, then construct the road. Steve Broerman will send comment letter. Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE asked about structures on the property—petitioner says “none.” The size of the homes and cost are not yet set—when, as, and if, petitioner will meet with Jim Blanchard for master permitting. There will be a model home on site. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept asked if West Road was built in first phase? Petitioner responded in the affirmative and said it matches up with the existing road to the north. The proposal will not be a “gated” community, and at this time, no amenity is proposed. John Duffy, Carmel Utilities would like to serve this project. Will bring water to entrance on 121st Street—main extension coming from Shelbourne Road—timeline will be needed. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester has not seen landscape plans—petitioner will submit. Jon D said to locate swales outside the landscape easement. John South, County Soil & Water sent FAX—there are unresolved issues. In original submittal, there is a considerable amount of dirt work beyond Section I—is this still the case? Dave Sexton responded there is little off-site disturbance to the east and south—will not mass grade at this time. Draining the pond—a lot of earth work previously done on site—don’t know if earth work was compacted, how it was placed, etc. Soils wise, there are a lot of unknowns. John South recommends a geo-technical engineer or firm review the soils during the construction process. Comment regarding “de-watering” of southern lake—contractor should NOT pump to the south. Need sediment/trap basin. Proposed pond at south end of the property water level is higher than existing grade to the north—need to show grading and filling on the plans. Petitioner could use existing dam. Design correctly and provide calculations. John recommended temporary seeding in segments with smaller chunks than 55 final. Offsite utilities need to be improved. Jon D., DOCS says Docket number, monumentation, key map, all need to be added to the plat. Lot 142 area not identified as easement; up-date legends, areas involving construction activity within the right-of-way need to be included in the plat and submitted as part of review. Instrument number to be added as source of title. Acquisition of right-of-way on 116th Street for passing blister—any progress? Petitioner states south side of 116th Street—no right-of-way as yet. Will have to clarify and get back to Jon. Steve Broerman, County Highway says when entrance is to be built, improvements need to be done at that time. If right-of-way cannot be acquired on south side, prefer to pull to the north side for improvements and petitioner would provide left and right turn lanes. State Highway will be taking out part of the hill on 421 at the west end of the property—unsure of the timing of that project. Easement procured for sanitary sewer across front of property? Petitioner responds in the negative. Easements/improvements need to show—directional walks need to show at intersections. Current specifications for pathway are 10-foot asphalt path—current sidewalk specification within subdivision is 5-foot walk. One half right-of-way on 116th Street is 70 foot half. Outlet for the pond along 116th Street—pretty step bank—10 foot asphalt path needs attention—pathway improvements should be kept inside right-of-way. Meridian Music (Development Plan and Secondary Plat) T he site is located at 100 Providence Blvd. The site is zoned OM/V (Old Meridian / Village). Filed by Frederick A. Simmons of Simmons & Associates for JAM Musical Properties. Present for Petitioner: Fred Simmons, Simmons & Associates, architects; Tim Seitz, landscape architect, Simmons & Associates; Paul Donica and Gary Murray, Paul I. Cripe, Engineers; and David Lazenby, Buckingham . The proposal is for a 2-story, 20,000 square foot retail building on the southeast corner of Providence Boulevard and Old Meridian. The petitioner is in the process of purchasing the adjacent property to the north as a future building site. Jenny Chapman, County Surveyor’s Office, sent comment letter. Property is in the Fertig drain watershed—outlet permit needed. Jenny requested drainage calculations. Gary Murray said the water goes through Providence at Old Meridian apartments and not outletting into a legal drain. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy asks if project will be serviced by gas—petitioner thought probably so. Petitioner given contact sheet for service. Jim Blanchard, DOCS/BCE asked if any structures were to be removed from the property; Petitioner responded in the negative. No exits on north or south side of building; petitioner will probably have a construction trailer. Jim Blanchard gave petitioner a checklist for pre-submittal meeting. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept. sent comment letter. Petitioner states building will be sprinklered—will NOT have a basement—two stories only. Gary Hoyt will meet with petitioner for hookup location—requests knocksbox—petitioner will comply. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester did not receive landscape plans. Scott said the large Oak tree at the entrance is dead or dying, and petitioner will probably want to remove it. John South, County Soil & Water, faxed comment letter to Paul Donica at Cripe Engineering. The project comes under Rule 5 and items must be submitted. Construction sequence needed. Temporary seeding is needed after main grading is done. John South recommends silt fence protection along Old Meridian. Is petitioner disturbing the existing swale? Only to get grading at the front and will be coordinated with Old Meridian layout. If swale is to be disturbed, show it seeded and blanketed, also show construction limits on this side of the swale. Storm pipe to be run north to catch the next lot? Petitioner responded it has been set up to extend. Petitioner will show parking lot. Jon D, DOCS said plat should be titled Providence at Old Meridian, Plat I. Right-of-way should be dedicated at northeast corner consistent with plans approved for final development for townehome area. Issue with improvement to Old Meridian—“Streetscape developed by City” adjacent property owners will have to develop site according to City Streetscape, level of detail not yet known. Petitioner will enter into agreement with Engineering Dept. to construct improvements. Carmel City Center Parcel 2A, Kosene & Kosene (Development Plan) The applicant is proposing office and retail buildings. The site is located at the southwest corner of 3rd Avenue SW and City Center Drive. Filed by Bob Olson of CSO. Laurence Lillig present for DOCS. Present for petitioner: Les Olds and Bob Olson of CSO Architects representing the Redevelopment Commission. This project is condominium and a part of the City Center Complex, referred to as Parcel 2A—three-story townhomes with underground parking, two parking spaces per building. The construction materials are wood frame, brick veneer, developed according to City Center guidelines per the site plan. The Redevelopment Commission would like to close on this purchase as soon as possible, and needs direction from the Plan Commission as far as approval is concerned. This will be a one-way road system with parking on one side for guests. The project will be built in phases. If project doesn’t go (marketed) with the first two buildings, the petitioner will return to the TAC committee for a redesign. Jon D, DOCS, Horizontal Property Regime (HPR) for condo guidelines. Parking on one side—18 foot street is narrow to start—this is an issue. The petitioner may jump to 24 feet and allow parking on one side. Roll curb on the outside, mono-sidewalk will be chairback curb. Les Olds says Kosene & Kosene will be putting this project together. Jon D said the County Auditor’s office requires the DOCS to “sign off” on HPR—standard language available from DOCS and Communications. Sales cannot commence until HPR is done. Scott Brewer, Urban Forester asked if any preliminary landscape details had been discussed. Les Olds responded in the negative—a Streetscape will be developed for Third Avenue—CRC responsible for Streetscape work—will develop a separate package from internal landscape package. John South, County Soil & Water sent comment letter highlighting soils on site. John South has not yet received construction plans for comment. Gary Hoyt, Carmel Fire Dept met with “Bob and Bob”—no additional comments at this time. Mike McBride, Carmel Engineer’s Office, unsure if Kate Weese has comments available at this time. Les Olds says they are working on median cuts and pricing—will return to TAC. Chuck Shupperd, Vectren Energy, asks if project is to be gas—Bob Olson says assumption is gas, but not sure. Chuck looked at project briefly, there probably will be a dedicated utility easement. If gas is to be used, plan out ahead, contact gas representative early. Jenny Chapman, County Surveyor’s Office, says project is in the Fertig watershed and will need calculations. Laurence Lillig, DOCS, has gone over with petitioner. However, will need more detailed plans, landscape, lighting, etc. for review prior to public hearing. DOCS will also need construction documents, erosion control plans, etc. Jon D, DOCS commented on drainage—only two inlets for entire project? Olson says no, there are more. Inlets intersect at odd angles—Olson says preliminary, will get final plans that will also show property lines and setbacks, etc. END MEETING