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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes SpecStdy 05-13-03 o City of Carmel CARlVlEL/CLA Y PLAN COMMISSION SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE TUESDAY, MAY 13, 2003 MINUTES The Special Study Committee of the Carmel/Clay Plan Commission met in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall at 7:00 PM on May 13,2003. Members present: Jerry Chomanczuk; Dan Dutcher; (late arrival) Ron Houck; Nick Kestner; Dianna Knoll, Chairperson; and Wayne Wilson, thereby establishing a quorum. Laurence Lillig attended the meeting on behalf of the Department of Community Services. Mike Hollibaugh, Department Director, was also in attendance. The following items were considered: u The Agenda was re-ordered to hear item 7, Docket No. 37-03 ADLS, Ritz Charles Accessory Building, as the first item of business. 1. Docket No. 53-03 ADLS Amend; Tom Wood Ford Petitioner seeks amended Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping & Signage approval for one wall and three ground signs. The site is located at 3130 East 96th Street. The site is zoned B-3/Business. Filed by Tim Kinglespaugh of Sign Craft. TABLED 2. Docket No. 57-03 ADLS Amend; H & R Block Applicant seeks amended Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping & Signage approval for on wall sign. The site is located at 3003 East 98th Street. The site is zoned B-3/Business and is within the Keystone Avenue Corridor Overlay. Filed by Kevin Phillips of Freeman Sign Co. for H & R Block Financial. Kevin Phillips of Freeman Sign Co. appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. The applicant is requesting approval of a wall sign located at 3003 East 98t11 Street. NO logo will U' be on this sign. The petitioner is aware that a second sign on this elevation would require a variance from the Board of Zoning Appeals; to date, no application has been filed. S:\PlanCommission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003may13 1 ONE CIVIC SQUARE . CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 The proposed sign will incorporate a new green logo box. The letter face is clear acrylic, day/night channel letters, with white, fluorescent-tubing illumination. Currently, there is existing D signage on the northwest elevation identifying the Keystone Office Park. That signage is not a part of H&R Block. . Jerry Chomanczuk moved for approval of Docket No. 57-03 ADLS Amend, H & R Block, conditioned upon BZA approval for any additional sign. The motion was seconded by Ron Houck and APPROVED 5-0. 3. Docket No. 43-03 CA, 44-03 ADLS Amend; Indiana Development Training Center (Commitment Amendment & ADLS Amend) The applicant seeks to construct a building addition. The site is located at 11075 North PeIlllsylvania Street. The site is zoned B-5/Business. Filed by Richard F. Steldt of Richard F. Steldt and Associates. Richard Steldt, Architect, and Bob Doster of Schneider Engineering appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. The current proposal is for a building addition at the existing Training Center located at the southeast comer of III th Street and PeIlllsylvania Street. The site is within the Home Place Overlay; however, no variance is needed for the buffer. The predominant use of the proposed addition is classroom space for developmentally disabled youth that reside at this facility. All of the existing architecture will be repeated. A 30-foot one-half right-of-way was requested to the north of the site (Pennsylvania Street) and the petitioner will comply. The petitioner has also agreed to work with the City Engineer regarding a 10-foot asphalt path along collectors and arterials, and will submit written commitments to the Department for recording. o Ron Houck asked about the lighting proposal. The photo-metrics look to be in excess of that which is required. Laurence Lillig pointed out that there is no residential development within close proximity of this location. However, the petitioner has agreed to comply with the lighting requirements. Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket No. 44-03 ADLS Amend, Indiana Development Training Center, subject to the petitioner meeting the lighting requirements, seconded by Jerry Chomanczuk and APPROVED 5-0. Note: Docket No. 43-03 CA was approved at full Plan Commission on April 15, 2003. 4. Docket No. 45-03 DP/ADLS; Mark Swanson Building The applicant seeks to construct a multi-tenant building. The site is located at 550 East 106th Street. The site is zoned B-5/Business and is within the Horne Place District Overlay Zone. S:\PlanCommission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003may 13 D 2 ONE CMC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 u l u Filed by Mark A. Swanson. Mark Swanson, Architect, and Dennis Lockwood of Mark A. Swanson & Associates appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Drawings were exhibited for the proposed multi-tenant building between Park Avenue and Ruckle on the north side of l06th Street. The facility will be 13,260 square feet, two stories. The exterior of the building is brick and stucco. Laurence Lillig noted that approval of the Development Plan would require dedication of additional right of way under the Thoroughfare Plan and the submission to the Department of a re-plat for Secondary Plat. An access easement should also be provided between the parking areas and the lot to the north, owned by the applicant, with sufficient grade to allow for future connection. Mark Swanson referred to a letter he had written to Jon Dobosiewicz on April 30th, a copy of which was received by the Department May 2nd. Mr. Swanson though if there were something in the letter that was objectionable, they would have heard from Jon Dobosiewicz. Dianna Knoll asked Laurence Lillig if the petitioner was sent the Department Report that was also sent to Committee members. The Department specifically refers to open items and those items should not be news to anyone. However, the Committee is spending time on issues that may have already been resolved. The Committee did not receive a copy of the letter from Mr. Swanson, and the Department Report makes no mention. Laurence Lillig said the petitioner was provided with a copy of the Department Report. Typically, the Department Report would reflect the issues item-by-item and they do not. Nick Kestner asked about the multi-use path and pedestrian access between the path and the parking lot. Laurence Lillig responded that the Ordinance provides for a lO-foot asphalt path within the right- of-way of 106th Street. The applicant has provided for a 5-foot sidewalk. Regarding the ADLS portion of this Docket, the plan initially submitted to the Department and reviewed by the T AC committee provided for a building with a flat front. The current proposal does not coincide with the initial plan. AB currently designed, the building-architectural element) encroaches into the front yard setback along 106lh Street and the Department is not in support of this design. The petitioner must file with the BZA for approval of the encroachment. Ron Houck asked for clarification of the lighting design and where the fixtures would be used. Ron also asked ifphoto-metrics were an issue. This will be addressed further on June 3rd. Jack and Janet Edwards, 10475 Cornell, were in attendance as interested residents of the area. Nick Kestner moved to recommend approval of Docket No. 45-03 DP, Mark Swanson Building, to the full Commission, subject to the following. 1) Approval from County Highway; S:\PlanConlmission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003may 13 3 ONE CIVIC SQUARE 317/571-2417 CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 2) Written commitment from the petitioner in recordable form for dedication of right-of-way for the path; and 3) Upon request by the City, the petitioner will install the path at his expense. The motion was seconded by Ron Houck and voted 5-0 favorable recommendation. Note: The ADLS portion of this petition will remain at the Committee level for further review on June 3, 2003. D 5. Docket No. 48-03 DP/ADLS; Meridian North Medical The applicant seeks to construct a multi-tenant building. The site is located at the southwest comer of 136th Street and US 31. The site is zoned B-5/Business and is within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Adam Dehart of Keeler-Webb Associates for F.C.C. Development Corp. Adam DeHart, project manager for Keeler-Webb Associates, Frank Cosmas, FCC Development; and the current landowner were in attendance. Also present was attorney Steve Plopper representing Diamond Investments and Dr. Beeson in a sale/lease-back of the Beeson property. The petitioner has filed two subdivision waivers that will be held for public hearing at the full Commission meeting of May 20th. The Primary and Secondary Plat will also be heard at that time. Briefly, the site is bracketed on three sides by the future Illinois Street extension, 136th Street to the north, and Meridian Street and future interstate to the south. The plans have been slightly 0 modified in order to bring the plans into compliance with comments from T AC members and conversations with the Department. This project has been modified slightly in order to accommodate the prior commitment for alignment made by Dr. Beeson in 1996. The entrance onto 136111 Street is to be abandoned and access is provided for both sites to the western property line that will align with the future Illinois Street. The petitioner is also providing dedication of right-of-way in order to accommodate the City's future access for Illinois Street. Also, there is an irregular-shaped piece of property that will help accommodate the future right-turn movements across the property and tbe petitioner is committing to dedicate 45 feet of right-of- way along 136th Street. There is an existing easement and common agreement between both property owners for the single access; the petitioner intends to maintain the access easement. The petitioner is in negotiations with the new property owner as to whether or not the existing easement and 5 additional parking spaces will stay in place. As the site is configured currently, the petitioner is 4 spaces over that which is allowed. At the time the informational packets were issued to the Plan Commission, the adjoining property owner, Dr. Beeson, was also supplied with the information. Dr. Beeson engaged Nelson & Frankenberger, attorneys, to review the project and materials. The day of the meeting, Nelson & Frankenberger was released from counsel. Scott Wiatt, attorney for Dr. Beeson, attended the public hearing and asked for additional time to review the proposal. A meeting was scheduled for May 9,2003 between the Departrrlent and Dr. Beeson to go over the right-of-way and easement issues so the plat would be performed with S:\PlanCommission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003may13 u 4 ~_""~.;.":.:.r:- ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 L l u both lots involved as opposed to two different O'Wllers filing plats. The plat is necessary because both properties are under 5 acres and in violation of the Subdivision Ordinance. Dr. Beeson has since sold his o'Wllership to Diamond Properties LLC. One item of concern at the public hearing was the location of the trash dumpster. The dumpster is now located on the US 31 side and is directly incorporated into the mechanical enclosure, a part of the wing-wall. The driveway is open-ended. The commitment in 1996 provides that at such time as Carmel obtains the right-of-way to install Illinois Street, a curb cut will be provided on the subject property at a location matching the ingress/egress location. At that time, Carmel will vacate and eliminate the current entrance. These recommendations were the subject of a report from A & F Engineering in 1996, conunissioned by Dr. Beeson. Both of these properties are better served off the future drive to the west. The plan had a minor revision regarding the sanitary, and this issue has been resolved with the Board of Public Works. Regarding the trees, Adam DeHart said the trees are not necessarily typical woodlands, they were not planted-they grew wild. The varieties are Willow, Sycamore, sub-standard variety of trees, and are ornamental. There are also some crah-tree-type bushes located within the area. The existing tree line along US 31 will be maintained. There is a large amount of fall from the Beeson building to the Creek and a 6- foot difference in grade along US 31. The issue of traffic was expressed as a major concern with the adjoining property owners. In the future, when Carmel makes the Illinois Street improvements, much of those traffic issues will cease to exist. In the meantime, the petitioner is drafting a design that will meet the approval of Carmel Engineering. Hopefully, an approval letter from the City Engineer will be forthcoming. Scott Brewer has reviewed the landscape plan. The trees along US 31 are adequate; however, additional detail will be added to Scott Brewer's satisfaction. The fencing will be kept in place in order to provide protection for the existing tree line and woodlands on the side of the site. The 31 Overlay requires a building height of 38 feet calculated to the mid-point of the roofline. The applicant has made a number of changes. At the time the previous owners bought and sold, there was no mention of the 5-acre rule and this waiver is extremely conducive to keeping the existing site from being an illegal split. It also allows the petitioner to go forward with the permitting process, and the review and approval process. There are no known issues with building material and structure/design. A ground sign was requested west of the entrance. The building has two frontages, one on l36lh Street, the other on US 31. A ground identification sign will be typical masonry with wide, individual letters, colored to match the existing building. The petitioner is also proposing a wall sign. The wing walls are indicative of the way the sign will appear. The wing wall encloses the mechanical equipment, electrical equipment and trash dumpster. s: \PlanCommission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003rnay 13 5 ONE CMC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571c2417 Department Report, Laurence Lillig. The Department is requesting tbe deceleration lane be extended. Also, there do not seem to be any photo-metrics or cut sheets in the informational materials. Adam DeHart said the photo-metric contour plan is a part of Addendum No.1. The light pole cut-sheets are also included in the Addendum. o Nick Kestner asked whether or not the view from US 31 could be improved so that it does not look like the rear of the building. Adam responded that Dr. Beeson bas an entry facing US 31. Additionally, as previously stated, there is a six foot grade cbange across the end of the site. Dormers wrap tbe building, and the gable to the rear is the same that is towards the front of the building. A portion of the parking is within the flood plain. There is less than one square mile of surface runoff on tbe site and DNR has no jurisdictional floodway-there is no open creek or ditch-and it is under Hamilton County jurisdiction. There is a legal drain that was installed in association with O'Malia's store and development to the northeast and does cut across Dr. Beeson's property and ends up on the State right-of-way and makes a connection point-that portion of the site is a legal drain. Steve Ploppner, attorney representing Diamond Investments, Inc. addressed the Committee. Diamond Investments is purchasing Dr. Beeson's property and has no objection to the design of the building. There is a concern regarding the signage, the 5 parking spaces within the easement and across Dr. Beeson's property. A determination must be made as to whether or not it is in Diamond Investment's best interest to plat Dr. Beeson's property or sell it. The issues will be 0 addressed this week. Laurence Lillig commented that the dual plat does not affect the Plan Commission's ability to move forward on the DP/ADLS. It will affect their ability to get an Improvement Location Permit for this property. It will also impact the Beeson property ability to get any permits for remodeling, additions, etc. Ron Houck moved to recommend approval of Docket No. 48-03 DP/ADLS, Meridian North Medical, to the full Commission, seconded by Jerry Chomanczuk, and Approved 5-0. 6. Docket No. 46-03 ADLS; Providence at Old Meridian, Lot 1 - Meridian Music The applicant seeks approval to construct a commercial building. The site is located at 100 Providence Blvd. The site is zoned OMN (Old Meridian I Village). Filed by Frederick A. Simmons of Simmons & Associates for JAM Musical Properties. Fred Simmons, Architect, Simmons & Associates, Indianapolis, appeared before the Commission representing the applicant. Also in attendance was Craig Gigax of JAM Musical Properties, owner of the property and owner of Meridian Music. S:\PlanCommission\..MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003may13 D Informational booklets, renderings, and exterior elevations were distributed to the Conunission 6 ONE erne SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 u u u prior to the full Commission meeting. There is one other Amendment and that is the parking lot light fixtures, two in number. Initially, the carriage lamp fixtures were to be used, but they did not meet the photo-metrics and they were not deemed compatible with this type of project. The "compromise" was circulated among the Committee. The brick used on the adjacent apartment buildings is a reddish-green and blends with the brick used on the Providence at Old Meridian. The proposed brick for the Music building is a blend of the same hues, and the jumbo brick is anticipated for use. The shingle color on the roof of the two elevations will match what was utilized on the apartments. The stone and EFIS are in the beige range as well as the brick mortar. The aluminum storefront and aluminum windows will be a champagne color. One sign is allowed on the building-no monument sign is allowed. One sign is suspended and is 20 square feet. A hanging sign is limited to less square feet. The petitioner displayed a blow- up of the proposed sign. The blue color is corporate to Meridian Music and the blue awnings on the first floor windows reflect the same color. Printed on the awnings is the same logo. There will be variances needed either in regard to the size of sign or the logo, and no decision has been made thus far. Committee comments: The printing on the awnings is considered a sign and therefore not allowed. The petitioner is not here to discuss the signage-that will be dealt with later. Laurence Lillig stated that as currently presented, the awnings will need a variance for the printing. The height of the windows is a question. The light issue has already been addressed. Jerry Chomanczuk asked if there were much pedestrian traffic expected at this location. Fred Simmons commented that once the design has been finalized for Old Meridian Street, Greg Gigax will then be installing landscaping, sidewalks, etc. The limestone is used for accent. Mr. Simmons said Currently, the petitioner is in negotiations regarding the purchase of a second lot. Nick Kestner said he has a slight problem with the jumbo brick that has a tendency to look like concrete block. Fred Simmons said that by Ordinance, the retail portion of this development must be entered off of Old Meridian Street. From the third floor of the music building, you will see small sections of the apartments next door. The mechanical units will be clustered as closely to the center of the building as possible. Jerry Chomanczuk moved for Approval of Docket No. 46-03 ADLS, Providence at Old Meridian, Lot 1, Meridian Music, seconded by Ron Houck and APPROVED 6-0. S:\PlanCornmission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyConunittee\SS2003may13 7 ONE CIVlC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 Note: Any signage on the awnings would require a return to the Plan Commission, possibly the BZA. 7. Docket No. 37-03 ADLS; Ritz Charles Accessory Building The applicant seeks approval to construct an 8,000 square foot accessory building. The site is located at 12156 North Meridian Street. The site is zoned B-6ffiusiness and is within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by E. Davis Coots of Coots, Henke & Wheeler for Ritz Charles. u Dave Coots, attorney with Coots Henke & Wheeler, 255 Carmel Drive, Carmel appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Also in attendance was Chuck Lazarra of the Ritz Charles. The proposed accessory building will consist of 8,00 square feet and be utilized for weddings, seminars, and receptions. Concerns expressed by the Committee included the view of the accessory building from US 31, and blending the design of the proposed building with the existing Ritz Charles. Computer generated drawings were provided to Committee members. The changes in design of the accessory building included raising the front canopy area and enhancing the windows. The design. now mirrors the appearance of the existing front door of the Ritz Charles; the design focuses more on columns and windows. Jerry Chomanczuk. commented that he was initially concerned with the amount of visible 0 rooftop. Dave Coots responded the existing tree line would not be disturbed. No parking is being added, no exterior lighting is being added, and no signage is being added. Nick Kestner was not entirely convinced that the accessory building was to his liking, but did say he would not hold up the project. Wayne Wilson woved for final approval of Docket No. 37-03 ADLS, Ritz Charles Accessory Building, conditioned upon the tree line remaining intact. The motion was seconded by Ron Houck, and APPROVED 5-0. 8. Docket No. 71-03 ADLS Amend; First Indiana Bank Petitioner seeks amended Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping & Signage approval for a wall sign. The site is located at 10333 North Meridian Street. The site is zoned B-5ffiusmess and is within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by Steve Granner of Bose McKinney & Evans, LLP for First Indiana Bank. Steve Granner of Bose McKinney & Evans appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. Brian Corbitt of First Indiana Bank (previously Metro Bank) was also in attendance. S:\PlanCommission \MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyComrnittee\SS2003may 13 u 8 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 u ';; u u Informational materials were mailed to the Committee members. There are three office buildings in this area and all of the signs on the buildings are green. The Metro Bank signs are being changed to First Indiana Bank. Due to landoWner requirements for the tenants, the signs will be the same-green with white lettering; the illumination will be the same. The size of the sign does comply with the Sign Ordinance. The sign is only visible by southbound traffic on US 31. Laurence Lillig reported for the Department. Jon Dobosiewicz had mentioned that the sign is in compliance. Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket No. 71-03 ADLS Amend, First Indiana Bank, seconded by Jerry Chomanczuk and APPROVED 6-0 9. Docket No. 75-03 ADLS Amend; The Beauty Center Petitioner seeks amended Architectural Design, Lighting, Landscaping & Signage approval for wall signs. The site is located at 3940 West 96th Street. The site is zoned B- 2IBusiness and is within the US 421 Overlay Zone. Filed by Bill Humphries. Bill Humphries, architect, appeared before the Committee representing the applicant. There are two objectives with this filing-one is to correct a situation with the existing sign; the second is to make it easier for prospective tenants for their signage. Laurence Lillig commented that the original ADLS limited each tenant sign to 40 square feet; the current request is for tenant signage to be subject to the chart in the Sign Ordinance rather than having a set, 40- foot maximum for all tenants. Mr. Humphries said there are currently 3 tenants, and the request is for an unknown fourth tenant. Nick Kestner asked that either the color or the type-face be consistent, maybe both, but at least one. Ron Houck moved for approval of Docket No. 75-03 ADLS Amend, The Beauty Center, seconded by Dan Dutcher and APPROVED 6-0 10. Docket No. 150-02b OA; (TABLED INDEFINITLY) Amendments to the CarmeVClay Zoning Ordinance - Patch #4 The petitioner seeks to add new provisions to and make several corrective amendments to the Zoning Ordinance. Filed by the Department of Community Services. 11. Docket No. 162-02 OA; 163-02 CPA (TABLED INDEFINITLY) Amendment to the Carmel/Clay Zoning Ordinance - Agricultural District Amendment to the Carmel/Clay Comprehensive Plan - Agricultural District S:\PlanCommission\MemoOtM:eeting\SpeciaIStudyCommittee\SS2003may 13 9 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 The petitioner seeks to add a new zoning district to the Zoning Ordinance. Filed by the Department of Community Services. There being no further business to come before the Committee, the meeting was adjourned at 10:20 PM. ~~~CJt~l RaJnona Hancock, Secretary ;f}~Ub-l:4-.{/ P Dianna Knoll, Chairperson S:\PlanCommission\MemoOfMeeting\SpecialStudyCommittee\SS2003may13 10 ONE CIVIC SQUARE CARMEL, INDIANA 46032 317/571-2417 . D o u