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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes Hearing Officer 03-25-03 w u q~~: , , \, n., ~,,';' i(=^"\ ~", ! ,/j il:' \\//5 , W ' \; !/ J ,~;!! l;il <-eel, ((~~)'11i r' '<;;;'1r!l Jj ~~--..,~ / .'::-~~-.Jf ~--.~ I" 1.;5 I 1 ?- \ T ( \<--:Jl', "'~i~'-'*;"" "" /-:, UV~'V'=-I ":~" ", rr',! .s.'" '\ \ ~\UI'Uj(~)", j J J <',::::,;dJ DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES CARMErJCLAY ADVISORY PLAN COMMISSION C...l/eITY CENTER DISTRICT HEARING March 25, 2003 Location: Caucus Rooms (2nd Floor) Carmel City Hall One Civic Square Carmel, Indiana 46032 Time: 9:00 AM Agenda A. Docket No. 41~03 DP/ADLS; Carmel City Center, Parcel2B ~ Pedcor Petitioner seeks Development plan and Architectural Design, External Lighting, Landscaping, and Signage Approvals to construct 2 ~eneral office buildings southwest of the intersection of City Center Drive and 3r Avenue Southwest. The site is zoned C-l/City Center District. u u Carmel City Center Parcel 2B (Development Plan) The applicant is proposing office and retail buildings. The site is located at the southwest comer of 3rd Avenue SW and City Center Dlive. Filed by Greg Snelling of CSQ. Greg Snelling with CSO and Steve Sturtz of Cruz & Sturtz Architects gives an overview. This site is within the City Center project. We are proposing two office buildings. Our development is approximately two of the four acres on the south end just north of the reflecting pond, which is currently under construction. Alan confirms the petitioner has received the fire depaltment comment letter. This will be a sprinkled building. Gary Hoyt would like to set a meeting to discuss location of fire department connections. We would like to see a hydrant at the entrance of the service road located on 126th Street on the east side. The height of the building is 54'. The parking garage is in the lower level. It is noted approximately 60 vehicles can be accommodated in the garage. Gary will discuss other requirements during the meeting. We will ask that you illstall four Knox box. Chuck handed infonnation to the petitioner. Our facility is just south of your location. Please call our 800 number to get your service request into our system. Jerry Breeck will be your contact to get things going. 1l100ks like this project will start before the end of the year. Scott has not sent a letter. I do not have planting details. I will need a graphic detail also. My species comments: it would be good if you can replace the red maples with taller shade trees. They have maintenance issues and do not work well on these sites. The ornamental pears are short lived as well. For a shade tree you can go with a European Hombeam or a 'Fastigiata". There are some buffering issues. It looks like the shrubs are bunched in one location. You have 40 to 50 yews in an area that is 7' wide by 20' long. Greg notes this may have been an attempt to incorporate that with the architecture of the AMLI building. We will go back and review this with our landscape architect. Scott, the idea is to have those views into the parking areas blocked. It looks like an error. There are some other errors as well. They need to be reviewed. We talked about the west side buffer issue. On the south side there is nothing along the building. At the reflecting pond it would be nice to buffer the street and get some shade trees in that area. Greg wants to try and maintain the area properly. There is a coordination issue with stOffi1 water surface drainage. We want to make sure the water does not flow onto the reflecting panel. This is a concern of the CarnIel Redevelopment Commission. We want to keep that flat and sloping onto our parking lot. If we start filling trees in, we need to be sure we can get the water out and not block any drains. After we receive your letter, we'll have our landscape architect get with you and resolve these issues. As a suggestion, we could possibly funnel around the trees. Sod perhaps might be more desirable. Jon, my preference would be that they clo a hedge along the area. This \'liouId separate u u the reflecting pond from the parking area. I don't think the aesthetic that the eRC is going for is a stroll along the pond next to the parking lot. To provide some type of transition between the parking area and the walk along the reflecting pond, would seem to make all the sense in the world. I don't think we were looking for a view of the pavement on one side and the reflecting pond on the other side. Kelli Lawrence has joined our discussion as the liaison to the Carmel Redevelopment Commission. This is especially true where the spaces actually back right up to the pond. Greg notes Les Olds has been an advisor on this project. Les suggested that we not have mulch or shrubs in that location. I believe he received this directive from the eRe. If this begins to drain, it will flow right into the middle of the pond. We will point out to the eRC that there is not a buffer or transition between the walk along the pond and the parking lot. Kelli suggests a buffer at the parking spots to the east where it comes up to the courtyard. Scott would like to note there is a possible mechatllcal solution. I will detail that in a letter to you. If you have trees with ground cover, you will need to have someone weeding or mowing around each one of those trees. ill areas like that you could just edge with mulch and eliminate the maintenance bassle, tree damage, and wear and tear on the plants. If Les wants any suggest, \ve can have another meeting. Jenny sent a letter. No comments. This is in city limits. Steve No Comments. Dick apologizes this has not been reviewed at this time. We will get with you as soon as possible. Bill, this is a two story all office building. We will meet with the Address Committee later to discuss the addressing. Later when you have the tenants and know who will occupy each office, I will need to assign the suite numbers. Dean passed along his business cards. On the south edge the easement by the reflecting pond has, I believe, a 10' for the transformer. Down the road, will you individually meter the buildings? Will tenants have their own meter? I have a concem whether there is enough room for metering stmctures along that line. I win make myself available whenever you are ready to get together. I'm sure we would all like to avoid any conflicts. The same is true if your tenants use gas. We will need to see some elevations to see how much space we have to work with. Sharon will forward the Hamilton County Soil and Water comment letter. Kelli has a few sidewalk concerns. We would like to see the jog in the walk on the northwest side of the building eliminated. There is no connection to the south side of the u u building. There is the potential to bring the walk just west and then south along the western property line. Please confirm and illustrate on the plans the 70' half right-of-way at City Center Drive. Do you have plans for signage for the building or directional signage for the driyearea? I will work on getting you some direction on the signage. We most assuredly need one-way signs to show people where this begins. Steve Sturtz, we were going to be told what we should do regarding the ground sign. We were told this would be unique. There would be a resemblance to the Colonial Williamsburg signs that stick out of the buildings. Greg, we have two Stop signs and one Do Not Enter sign. We felt no more would be needed. Kelli, the parking space on the east side is very close to the east entrance. I realize you are limited on parking on the site. Perhaps this would avoid backing into a complicated area of enter/exit. Steve Sturtz, there is concern about parking and we hope to address that very soon. Greg, I believe the Redevelopment Commission did not want to connect this. Jon, we cannot solve all the problems here. We're not asking you to eliminate those two spaces. A queuing area might help. Kelli asks for a lighting plan. I have some standards we used from the Shapiro proj ect. Jon would l.ike to see more correspondence from Les as to how this will drain. You need to check with the CRe regarding parking and the pond and what the end result will be. This will make them aware when they make their decision about the ADLS DP. Greg, if we work out all the issues in the next week or two, what would be the procedure for allowing us to start site work. Jon, after you close we don't need a site pemlit. We need the building permit. As long as you don't pour concrete, you're not under construction. You can do everything but pour concrete. Greg confmlls after we just close on the property. 'vVe will have the staging area oUsite. Once we get the foundation release, we can take it to Jeff Kendall. Jon, you will go through a presubmittal process. There will be some intemal routing. You are looking at 7 to 10 days. Steve Sturtz is concemed about getting the base down, but the timing looks possible.