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CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION Meeting, Monday, March 26, 2001
President Rick Roesch called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. Members present were
Luci Snyder and Ron Carter constituting a quorum. Also present were Steve Engelking,
Director, Kate Weese, City Engineer, Karl Haas, Wayne Wilson, City Councilman, Les
Olds, from CSO. Also present from Ryland Homes were Alan Goldsticker, Steve May,
Joe Harvey, Kenny Windler and Jim Thomas from AMLI. Sherry Mielke and Phyllis
Morrissey as support staff.
Approval of Minutes
The minutes from February 26th meetings could not be approved since Ms. Snyder was
not at those meetings. Approval will be tabled until the April 11th meeting.
Report from the Mayor
No report since Mayor Brainard is out of town.
Report from Director
Mr. Engelking reported he will have updated information before the next meeting about
the surveys from Artec and Brian Vargas. He will have the information sent to the
commission members prior to April 11th so it can be discussed at that meeting..
Financial Report
Ms. Mielke distributed the financial report. Balance at the end of February is $4,075,758.
Estimated balance for end of March is $3,768,000.
Report from Attorney
Mr. Haas reported he has received a reimbursement agreement with Merchants Pointe
Associates and the Linder Company. Both have agreed to sign. “I want to make sure we
end up with an entity that has assets. It’s in the same form almost exactly as the last
reimbursement agreement we had with Duke Weeks.”
Mr. Carter made a motion that Mr. Roesch be authorized to sign the agreement.
Following a second by Ms. Snyder the motion was unanimously approved.
Mr. Haas reported he has received a claim for $1,650 from the tenant farmer for damage
to soybean crops when the CRC or the BPW was doing work on the Mueller property.
Ms. Snyder moved the CRC approve the claim. Following a second by Mr. Carter the
motion was unanimously approved.
Mr. Haas reported he had received no further contact from the Hamilton Group. He
notified them that there would be a meeting tonight at which the CRC could discuss a
counter proposal but they did not respond.
Sherwin Williams litigation is proceeding. The trial is postponed till fall. Their expert has
stated the valuation of $230,000, which is a significant improvement over the court
appointed (residential) expert.
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Mr. Carter thanked Karl for the role he played in the March 14th meeting at the public
hearing, “…giving us your opinions on such short notice. It was certainly helpful to the
Commission overall and to us getting our business done that night.”
Mr. Roesch and Ms. Snyder also called Karl to thank him the day after the meeting.
Report from the Architect
Mr. Olds reported that regarding Parcel #3, the site will be ready for Mr. Kestner’s
contractor approximately the first of May. Mr. Kestner still needs some approvals from
the State.
Mr. Olds continued: Regarding the plaza area and the involvement of the Rotary Club in
terms of some changes to the plaza, costs for these have been given to Mr. Kestner and
Mr. Carter and they are going to be talking to the Rotary Group regarding whether they
want to make these upgrades and changes. Once they start construction of the wall those
decisions will need to be resolved.
Mr. Roesch asked if a special meeting will need to be held to do that. Mr. Olds felt the
April 11th meeting would be soon enough.
Reports from CRC Members
Mr. Roesch asked Mr. Carter to discuss the Rotary Plaza.
Mr. Carter: It appears we will be receiving a letter back from the Rotary after they meet
with their board next Friday. We had Karl put together a letter for Rotary to send back to
us that in effect is an offer to us as to what their participation would be. The total cost of
the first phase was approximately $35,000. There are additional phases to the plaza that
would cover the walls, landscaping, etc., which would take the cost of the plaza up to
$56,000. Right now it appears that changes to the plaza for Rotary to have their name and
other materials on it would total about $14,000, taking the cost of the plaza to right at
$70,000 in total.
It appears Rotary will propose to us that they will provide $35,000 towards the cost of the
project (about half of the project) to a maximum of $35,000. We hope to have that back
from them in that form for the Commission to look at at the next meeting and decide if it
and the whole project meets our needs.
Mr. Roesch announced that Amy Boldt has resigned from the Commission effective
immediately due to her husband being transferred to Chicago.
Mr. Roesch noted Sherry Mielke received a courtesy call late Friday afternoon, March
23, from Greg Silver saying there would be a lawsuit against the Redevelopment
Commission filed in Judge Barr’s court in Noblesville. This was done today (March 26)
and we will probably receive a copy of that suit tomorrow.
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Approval of Invoices
The invoices totaling $26,733.26 were for legal services and repair of one of the audio
tapes from the March 14th meeting.
Ms. Snyder moved the invoices be approved. Following a second by Mr. Carter the
motion was unanimously approved.
Old Business
Mr. Roesch noted the Ryland Project Agreement was sent out to CRC members prior to
the meeting. The closing is set for June 21st.
Ms. Snyder moved the CRC approve the Ryland Project Agreement. Mr. Carter seconded
the motion.
Before approval of the motion, Mr. Haas asked Mr. Olds to explain about any costs
involved.
Mr. Olds: The expenses would be for streetscape and landscaping the right of way (which
includes the lighting) for the full length of Parcel 6, all for approximately $100,000.
Autumn Drive needs to be extended about 130 feet for a cost of $40-50,000 to make
Ryland’s plan work.
Mr. Roesch asked if that wasn’t to be done by the City.
Mr. Olds: That’s where part of our problem lies. The original plan was that the City
would also do the streetscape for City Center Drive but there are no funds available for
that.
Ms. Weese: That was probably part of the City’s intentions ultimately to landscape just
like we’ve done Hazel Dell and we’re planning to do our other streets. I’m not too sure
about the street lighting because that needed to be done in the course of how City Center
developed. I’m not saying what you’re saying is not true, but I don’t recall the road
project having a second phase immediately to follow.
Mr. Olds: We’ve been carrying it in the budget in terms of cost for the CRC to be
responsible only because we had no clarity from the City. And the same is true about the
work that goes on the south side of City Center Drive from the west end of the AMLI
property over to Third Street.
There’s also the other issue. On the south side of the street there is currently kind of a
wandering asphalt walking/bike path. We think that’s out of character with what’s
happening. Our proposal has always been that that would be a concrete and brick
sidewalk package to match the other side of the street, so it’s uniform all the way down
from Range Line Road with the same type of lighting, landscape details and sidewalks on
both sides.
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Discussion followed at length about the asphalt paths and sidewalks.
Mr. Carter was concerned about the safety of bike riders and roller bladers when using
the sidewalk and because of being forced out into the street to get to the Monon. Mr. Olds
said there was not a lot of brick being used, just small areas for decorative detail. Mr.
Thomas requested the decorative sidewalk be used on the AMLI parcels.
Mr. Olds noted there was always the possibility of having a continuous strip of hard
surface from the sidewalk area to the street, eliminating a grass strip. He said this might
still happen on Parcel #2.
Mr. Carter reluctantly agreed to have the decorative sidewalk if it was at least 6’ wide
and had only small areas of brick.
Getting back to the Autumn Drive issue, Mr. Roesch said he believed that was addressed
at another meeting when the Mayor was present and the Mayor said the City was taking
care of it.
Mr. Haas introduced the Ryland representatives who were here to make a presentation.
Mr. Goldsticker presented the Ryland Homes site plan for the town homes proposed for
City Center on Parcel #6: seven town homes with a total of 41 units. The outside was
designed to meet the requirements of the CRC.
Mr. May, the designer, explained the town homes are designed to fit in with the existing
City buildings. He pointed out some details such as circular windows, keystones over
many windows, brick banding.
The interior homes are 1700 square feet; the exterior homes are 2,050 square feet. Price
range will be from $159,000 (interiors) to $195,000 for the exterior homes.
Ms. Weese expressed a concern about the water line which is under one of the buildings,
and asked if that had been addressed. Mr. Goldsticker noted the buildings will be moved
around so the water line falls between two of them.
Ms. Snyder asked how close the buildings are to the front walkways. The response was
that they are between 25-30 feet from the front walkways. No fences were planned for
the front yards.
Mr. Olds has reviewed all the exhibits presented by Ryland Homes. He noted they have
made every effort to be compatible with the other projects and the City buildings.
Ms. Snyder again moved the CRC approve the Ryland Project Agreement. Following a
second by Mr. Carter the motion was unanimously approved.
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Ms. Snyder asked for renderings of the project to give to people who are inquiring about
it.
New Business
Ms. Weese explained at length the site work problems encountered in Parcel #1. She
referred the members to the memo she distributed.
The problem occurred in the southwest corner of Parcel #1, when the site was first
surveyed and the survey was off by three feet. The area is three feet lower than first
thought which creates a problem with the amount of fill dirt which will now be required.
Approximately 17,000 to 24,000 cubic feet of dirt will need to be located and hauled in to
bring the site up to where it needs to be for the building pads.
Different solutions to the problem were suggested and rejected because of cost or other
complications, such as the wetlands.
Ms. Weese noted she has been working closely with Mr. Olds. The survey was first done
by ACE. CSO, who wrote the specifications for Parcel #1, based their specs on the
survey done by ACE. ACE has also been very helpful in trying to solve the problem. The
main problem right now is finding the dirt.
Work is also being done on the wet areas. Possible solutions are adding stone or liming
those wet areas. The goal is to deliver the correct site to AMLI on time.
Mr. Thomas noted if the delivery date slips a week or so that would not be a problem.
Mr. Olds said he has discussed this problem with ACE and if there are delays and
penalties, ACE has been told they are responsible. “They have stepped forward and said
they are willing to do whatever is necessary.”
Mr. Roesch asked if we should be revising our cost estimates. Ms. Weese replied that it
was too soon to tell what the cost would be.
All surveying measurements are being rechecked but at this time it is thought the error
was isolated to the one area.
Mr. Haas said the CRC could expect ACE to pay for the difference in what has to be paid
now and what otherwise would have had to be paid.
Mr. Roesch expressed appreciation for everyone getting on this problem so quickly.
Ms. Weese said she hoped to have the work done and know the final cost by the April 11
meeting.
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New Business
The CRC has been notified, as adjoining property owner, of an addition being planned for
the Carmel United Methodist Church. No one expressed an interest or a concern about
the project.
Adjournment
Ms. Snyder moved the meeting be adjourned. Following a second by Mr. Carter the
motion was approved and the meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.