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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
Minutes - Regular Meeting
Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:00 PM
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals met at 6:00 PM on Monday,
August 25, 2008, in the Council Chambers of City Hall, Cannel, Indiana. The meeting opened with the
Pledge of Allegiance.
Members in attendance were Kent Broach, James Hawkins, Earlene Plavchak and Madeleine Torres,
thereby establishing a quorum. Christine Barton-Holmes, Rachel Boone and Mike Hollibaugh
represented the Department of Community Services. John Molitor, Legal Counsel, was also present.
Mrs. Torres moved to approve the minutes of the July 28,2008 meeting as submitted. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Hawkins and APPROVED 5-0.
G. Reports, Announcements, Legal Counsel Report, and Department Concerns
Mrs. Barton-Holmes gave the Department Report. Items 2-5h, St. Vincent Sports Performance Center,
the Department requested tabling until September 22, 2008. Item 12 h, Sales Diesel-signage, needed a
two-day waiver for public notice in the newspaper; all their other notices were correct. Under Old
Business Items 2-3i and 4-5i, Monon & Main, Units 3D, 3A & 4F, the Petitioner had submitted a letter
to withdraw those items. Items 6-12i Circle KlShell has requested tabling until October 27,2008. In
light ofthe fact there would only be three Board members available to hear the request, Item Ih St.
Vincent Heart Center Hc1ipad has requested to be tabled until September 22, 2008. With regard to that,
the Petitioner was present to answer any questions.
Mr. Molitor stated that as discussed previously, Mr. Hawkins would need to recuse himself from any
discussion of Item Ih S1. Vincent Heart Center Helipad.
Mr. Hawkins recused himself.
Mr. Broach, Vice President, conducted the hearing. He asked about the mles for tabling in the case
where there are only three ofthe five Board members present.
Mr. Molitor stated that under Article 7, Section 6 of the BZA Rules of Procedure, if only three out of
five members are available to hear an agenda item, the Petitioner can request an automatic continuance
lmtil such time as there are four or five members available. This would fall under the category of an
automatic continuance and he suggested the Board make a motion to that effect.
Mrs. Torres moved to continue Docket No. 08060008 UV, St. Vincent Heart Center Helipad to the
September 22, 2008 hearing. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Plavchak and APPROVED 3-0.
Mr. Broach stated this ItenuDocket would be continued to the September 22 hearing. He thought in
order to avoid another automatic continuance; the Board would have two substitute members for this
matter. This would give another thirty days for discussion in the interim.
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The Petitioner confirmed they would be ready to present on September 22, 2008.
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A couple minutes recess was taken. Mr. Hawkins rejoined the Board.
Gl. Report on 1993 Use Variance status - UV-35-93
Mr. Molitor continued the Legal Report. At last month's meeting they had discussed the potential need
for an enforcement action regarding UV -35-93 granted to Mr. and Mrs. Mylin. He had been in
conununication with their counsel. They have agreed and executed written commitments concerning
the use and development of the real estate. It contains their commitment that they will comply with all
the obligations and conditions that were imposed upon the approval of the Use Variance in 1993.
Therefore, he and the Staffrecommended that the Board should need to take no enforcement action
against the landowners. If the Board so agreed, he requested amotion be made to that affect that no
further action would be taken in this matter. lfthe Board wished to discuss it further, he recommended
the item be continued until the end of the meeting.
Mrs. Plavchak stated summer is over, school has started and next summer is a long time away. So it is
very well and good to say they will not do it anymore. She felt something needed to be done now to
make sure that it does not get forgotten by the time next swim season comes around. She was not
comfortable with just letting it drop because thetules were there and they were not abided.
Mr. Molitor suggested they move the matter to the end of this agenda and the Board could have further
discussion as to whether or not anything else needed to be done. Copies could be made of the r l
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H. Public Hearing:
lh. St. Vincent Heart Center Helipad TABLED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22
The applicant seeks the following use variance approval:
Docket No. 08060008UV Appendix A: Use Table Helipad in B6/US 31 Overlay District
The site is located at 10330 North Meridian Street and is zoned B6lBusiness, within the US 31 Overlay
District.
Filed by Robert A. Hicks and Paul E. Clendenen for St. Vincent Heart Center.
2-5h. St. Vincent Sports Performance Center TABLED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 08070002 V Section 23.B.09.D Sloped roof exceeding 100' without change in plane.
Docket No. 08070003 V Section 23.B.8.05.B.1.a Increase in maximum first floor gross floor area
over 40%
. Docket No. 08070004 V Section 27.03.02 Elimination of straight concrete curbs on parking
islands
DockeJ No. 08070005 V Section 23.B.12.a Parking between US 31 & 90' build-to line
The site is located at 13400 North Meridian St and is zoned S2/Single-Family Residential in the US 31 U
Overlay.
Filed by Paul Reis of Bose McKinney & Evans LLP for Bremner Duke Healthcare Real Estate.
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6-11h. Old Meridian Plaza - Bldg 2
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 08070006 V Section 20G.05.04(B)(1)(a) BIdg height/occupiable tloor reduction from
required 28' /2 stories
Docket No. 08070007 V Section 20G.05.04(B)(2)(b) Reduction of required front yard setback
Docket No. 08070008 V Section 20G.05.04(B)(4) Reduction of minimum side yard setback
Docket No. 08070009 V Section 20G.05.04(B)(5) Reduction of minimum rear yard setback
Docket No. 08070010 V Section 20G.05.04@(3) Reduction of 75% minimum street frontage
Docket N n. 08070011 V Section 20G.05.04(G)(3) Location of parking in front of building
The site is located at 12863 Old Meridian Street and is zoned Old MeridianlMixed Use within the Old Meridian
District.
Filed by Charles Frankenberger of Nelson & Frankenberger for Old Meridian, LLC.
Present for the Petitioner: Charles Frankenberger. Also present were members of the development
team, including architects, engineers and representatives from the owner. An aerial view of the parcel
with the site superimposed was shown. The real estate comprises about 2.5 acres and is located on the
east side of Old Meridian Street between East Carmel Drive on the south and Main Street on the north.
A rendering of the site plan was displayed. They intend to erect two free-standing buildings. One of the
buildings will be on Old Meridian Street. It will be 60,000 square feet, with four stories of 15,000
square feet per floor. This approved building was presented at a previous meeting for variances. The
building that is the subject of these variances will be east of and behind the approved building. It was
indicated as a possible future building on the prior site plan in connection with the review of the
approved building. As general background, a Use Variance was granted for a veterinary hospital with
an indoor kennel to be located within the approved building. It was later decided to relocate the
veterinary hospital from the approved building to the proposed building further from the frontage of
Old Meridian. The veterinary hospital is currently located at the site of the Stout Shoe building
recently approved for the northeast corner of Main and Old Meridian Streets, In addition to the
developmental standards variances requested, the proposed building also requires approvals from the
Plan Commission. The requests pending before the Plan Commission are ADLS approvall Plat
Amendment, Subdivision Waiver and ZoningW aiver. Renderings ofthe proposed building were
enclosed in the packets. The Plan Commission had comments and suggestions regarding the
architecture. They were referred to the September 2, 2008 Special Studies meeting. Regarding the Plat
Amendment and the Waivers, it is anticipated the veterinarians will own the proposed building and the
land immediately beneath it. The lot lines of the parcel are the footprint of the proposed building. The
establishment ofthis second lot by the veterinarians necessitates the Primary Plat Amendment.
Because the proposed building will not have frontage on Old Meridian Street, but will be accessed
through cross easements, a Subdivision Waiver has been requested. Because the proposed building is
within the Old Meridian Overlay, but does not have frontage on Old Meridian Street, a Zoning Waiver
has also been requested. In this regard the Old Meridian Overlay does contemplate buildings on the
back of property. They have requested the Waivers in order to clarify the proj ect and to err on the side
of caution. Because the perimeter of the lot for the proposed building is the same as the building
footprint, they requested the Developmental Standards Variances with respect to front, side and rear
yard setbacks. Because front, side and rear yard setbacks are measured from lot lines, there are
technically no front, side or read yard setbacks for the proposed building. This does not change the real
distances between the buildings and the perimeters regardless of where they draw the lot line around
the proposed building. Developmental Standard Variances were also requested to allow a parking lot in
front of the proposed building, which puts the parking in back of the approved building along Old
Meridian. Variances were needed to allow a reduction in height and occupiable floor requirements and
to provide relief from the requirement that 75% of all buildings on the site face Old Meridian Street.
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On this site that would be impossible because the approved building occupies most of the frontage on
Old Meridian Street. These variances, like some of the requests pending before the Plan Commission, U
are necessitated by the fact that although the proposed building is behind the approved building with
frontage on Old Meridian, it is nonetheless within the Old Meridian Overlay. It was their . . .
understanding that they had addressed all concerns of the Urban Forester and the Engineering
Department at this stage of the process.
Members of the public were invited to speak in fav0f or opposition to the petition; no one appeared.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Mrs. Barton-Holmes gave the Department Report. These variances are due to the unique site design of
the proj eel. The building came up in discussion when the fust buil~ing was before the Board with the
vet's office in it. This request would move the vet's office to the building in back which would help
further screen the use and any potential noise. The building does meet the Old Meridian Overlay
standards as far as building design. Because of the site design it does not meet the requirements for the
site design within the Old Meridian District. But it is a unique case and would share landscaping and
parking. The parking and landscaping are adequate for both buildings and meets the requirements of
the Overlay. The building does not actually have frontage on the Overlay, but it does meet the design
standards. The parking in front of the proposed building would be screened from Old Meridian by the
approved building. The overall intent of the Overlay is met by this request. The Department
recommended positive consideration.
Mr. Hawkins remembered some commitments were made with the original approval of the front 0 (..
building about maintenance of the area with walking dogs, etc. Were they included in this project?
Mrs. Barton-Holmes acknowledged a couple of the commitments might still be an issue. She believed
there was a conunitment to provide waste stations for people walking their dogs before or-after
appointments. The majority ofthe discussion was about noise, screening and odor. That is less of an
issue since it has become a stand-alone building rather than in the approved office building.
Mr. Frankenberger stated there was also discussion that the two veterinarian offices would not be in
operation at the same time. This would be a relocation of the vet's office. There might be some
overlapping during the transition and moving.
Mrs. Torres remembered that once they were out of the old veterinarian office, the old building would
be razed.
Mr. Frankenberger thought that commitment had come from the Stout Shoes project.
Mr. Broach moved to approve Docket Nos. 08070006 V through 08070011 V, Old Meridian Plaza-
Bldg 2. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Plavchak and APPROVED 4-0.
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12h. Sales Diesel- Signage
The applicant seeks the followingdevelopment standards variance approval:
Docket No. 08070017 V Section 25.07.02-05 (b) Number of signs facing right-of-way
The site is located at ] 1590 N. Meridian St. It is zoned S-2/B-6, Light commercial and office uses adjacent to
limited access highways.
Filed by Amanda Gates of Sign Craft Industries.
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Mrs. Plavchak moved to suspend the Rules to allow the Public Notice in the newspaper which was
two days late. The motion was seconded by Mr. Hawkins and APPROVED 4-0.
Mr. Dierckman arrived.
Present for the Petitioner: Amanda Gates. Dee from Sales Diesel was also present. Sign Craft has been
in Indiana for fifty years and has enjoyed a long relationship with several Cannel businesses. Their
main objective is to provide a quality product to the reputable businesses in the community to not only
identify the business but to add to the aesthetic value. This variance is for an additional wall sign to
face US 31. Photos of comparable signs in the area were shown. The architecture of the building has
several bump-outs and insets at various angles. Even though some of the signs are classified as north-
facing, most of them appear to be east-facing toward US 31. They were requesting an appropriate place
for the sign due to the length of the fayade and the architecture of the building. Photos of the building
facades facing Illinois Street were shown. The Staff comments stated that within two years it is
projected that many businesses will want their signs facing Illinois Street. She felt that projection was
as important part of business decisions, but in this instance they did not have the luxury to wait two
years for Illinois Street to boom with traffic. They would appreciate the opportunity to be able to place
their sign facing US 31 where they can insure that the business will get the visibility it needs to
succeed within the community. A rendering of the proposed sign was shown. They were upholding all
the standards within the Ordinance and sign package as far as size and color specifications. The only
deviation at this point is the additional sign facing US 31.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Miss Boone gave the Department Report. The proposed sign does fit within the specified sign package
for this center. It will be about 90 square feet; ivory in color with bronze returns like the other signs in
the center. The Staffs main concern is that allowing an additional sign to face US 31 will enhance the
retail appearance of the corridor instead of the business/office corridor the City is trying to keep
consistent in looks and feel. Also Illinois Street is slated to be continued and completed from 116tl1
Street south to 106th Street. They felt once this was completed the businesses facing Illinois Street will
ask for additional signage. They were trying to keep consistent with the Sign Ordinance. This building
would be allowed an additional sign facing Illinois Street.
Mr. Hawkins asked if Sales Diesel was an office use. He wanted to know if any ofthe owners of the
building were present. He was concerned if this sign was approved then they would come back for a
sign on Illinois Street which he would not be inclined to approve. That could impact the owner's
wishes for the building.
Ms. Gates stated Sales Diesel is a marketing company. The owner has seen and approved the signage.
They understand this variance for a third sign would be maxing out signage they would be allowed on
the building.
Mrs. Torres moved to approve Docket No. 08070017 V, Sales Diesel-signage. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Ha\vkins and DENIED 2-3, with Mr. Broach, Mr. Dierckman and Mrs. Plavchak
casting the negative votes.
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13h. . Brunson & Co Office
The applicant seeks the following use variance approval:
Docket No. 08070024 UV Appendix A: Use Table Office uses in residential district/building
The site is located at 2050 East 96th Street and is zoned S2/Single-family residential.
Filed by Michael Godfrey and Kumiko Brunson, owners.
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Present for the Petitioner: Mike Godfrey. Kumiko Brunson was also in attendance. They currently have
a home business at this location. He shared a picture of the house.which was a rental when they
purchased it in 2002. The maintenance had been ignored, but they saw value in the size and location of
the parcel. They received a sign variance for the parcel. A picture was shown indicating the
improvements they had made to their home. They run a successful real estate and insurance business
from their home. Their business has grown. They have no intention of making any physical or
cosmetic changes. They intend to continue to occupy the property and will not be changing any way
they operate the business. They have already been approached and have had part of their frontage taken
through eminent domain by the City. They have continued use of the property, but a sewer drain was
placed down the south property line. They were asking to protect the value of the property by getting a
Use Variance. They have received notifications from either the State or Marion County on changes and
improvements that will be taking place on 1465. They have no intentions of moving or selling the
property. They believe the changes they have made have been an asset to the area.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition.
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Ron Schafer, 9604 Maple Drive, three houses east of this residence. About a year and a half ago
another residence on 96th Street applied for a Use Variance and it was denied. He did not understand .
some of the reasons for why they wanted the Use Variance. He had lived there for 29 years and
maintained his property. It .was his understanding you could have a business in a residence as long as
you lived in the residence.
Mr. Hawkins stated the Department would better be able to answer that. There are certain criteria to
have a home-based business.
Mr. Schafer felt this was just like a cancer. If this one goes to a business/commercial facility. it will
spread down the street. Mr. Godfrey stated in his information in three different places that the
surrounding area is currently predominately residential with some residential office conversions. He
would be interested in the location of these places. He mew there was one next door to him. Very few
mow they are running a business in the house and no one is living there. They maintain the property
and there is very little traffic in and out. He Was just not interested in commercial starting on the street.
They had gone through this a few years ago with the Comprehensive Plan which raised a ruckus in
their neighborhood. Mayor Brainard had told them before the last election that the Comprehensive
Plan was dead. He was not aware of anything happening on 96th Street as far as the widening. He heard
a rumor they were talking about putting a bridge over Westfield Boulevard that would run at some
angle across 1465 from the roundabout. He had talked to the State Highway Department earlier in the
day, but they mew nothing aboutit. They were just starting to talk about plans for 1465 and nothing
will start on it until 2012. He did not want a business to start on the street.
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Rebuttal:
Mr. Godfrey felt the complexion of 96th Street was changing. Most ofthe growth has taken place east
of Keystone Avenue. With the current improvements on Keystone Avenue north of 96th Street and
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Meridian in the near future, it will continue to drive more and more traffic across 96th Street. It will not
be as conducive for residential use. They run a quiet and successful business. They felt they will
continue to be an asset to the area. They own and maintain other residential pieces of real estate in
Hamilton County. He felt this was a good reflection of what they do. He had a high respect for Mr.
Schafer and the other neighbors. They will continue to operate a nice responsible business.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Mrs. Barton-Holmes gave the Department Report. The difference between this variance and the
variance referenced by Mr. Schafer is this one has been in operation and continues to operate with very
few if any complaints on file with the City. This is also a comer lot which is considered to be better for
a residential/commercial conversion. It is typically less disturbing than a mid-block lot. This variance
would legally establish and pennit some growth within the house itself. A home-based occupation is
permitted within certain parameters and percentages of the building. Typically a living room or dining
room is permitted to be used. They were granted three variances in 2005 for signs related to the home
occupation. Typically the Department does have some concerns with intermingling office and
residential uses. In this instance there are a few other conversions on both sides of the street, stretching
between Westfield and Keystone. Further east 96th Street becomes more commercial. It is a very low
intensity commercial use within a residential area. It does not generate a great deal oftraffic. The use
could serve as a buffer.
Mrs. Torres asked if the expansion would be strictly offic,e use and no residential or would it just be
expanding into other rooms in the house.
Mr. Godfrey stated they did not have an expansion proposal or project. They would not be making any
physical changes. They only thing that will happen is the continued natural growth of their business
through word of mouth. Their marketing budget is very thin. They will not expand into bedrooms or
hire employees. They are the only employees.
Mrs. Torres was confused as to what they were approving since the business and sign already exist.
Mrs. Barton-Holmes stated this variance would give the Petitioner the ability to hire an additional
employee. A home-based occupation is limited to one part-time employee in addition to family
members and a very small space within the house. This variance would permit their business to grow
without continuing to come back each time the business was to expand. They would still need to
maintain the residential appearance of the structure. The variance would legally establish the existing
commercial use and it would permit expansion only within the house. Any thing additional expansion
would need a variance.
Mr. Dierckman moved to approve Docket No. 08070024 UV, Brunson & Co Office. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Hawkins and APPROVED 3-2, with Mr. Dierckman and Mrs. Torres casting the
negative votes.
Mrs. Torres pointed out to Mr. Schafer that the Comprehensive Plan is back on the table. Ifhe has
access to the website, he could check it out because it is in discussion again.
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14-15h.Beriault Pool
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 08070028 V Section 7.04.03.D(i) Reduced rear yard setback
Docket No. 08070029 V Section 25.01.01.B.3(b)(i) Reduced setback from easement
The site is located at 13820 Smokey Ridge Drive and is zoned RlISingle family residential.
Filed by Bill Lambert ofPermaPools for Greg and Ann Beriault, owners.
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Present for the Petitioner: Bill Lambert. These variances are for a residential backyard pool. The
placement of the pool abuts a ten-foot drainage/utility easement in the back. There is a twenty-foot rear
setback. The Ordinance requires it to be three feet from an easement. This approval would allow them
to place the pool within the twenty-foot setback and up to the easement. It would not be within the
_ easement. A site plan was shown. He had met with Fred Gla,ser in the Carnlel Engineering Department.
They had walked this easement and some of the easements in the neighborhood. He had a~sured Mr.
Glaser that the swale ofthe easement would not change. This is a one piece fiberglass 15 by 38 pool.
The rectangular portion is 15 by 32 with two small benches on each end. A picture was shown.
Pictures of the backyard were shown with the location of the pool and property line indicated. It will
be behind the screening between the Beriaults and their neighbor and entirely behind their house. They
will have a registered surveyor mark the lines and the easement lines.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition; no one appeared.
The Public Hearing was closed.
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Mrs. Barton-Holmes gave the Department Report. There are several existing pools and similar
structures on adjacent parcels in the subdivision. The lots are relatively small in portion to the size of
the house and oddly shaped. Without the grant ofthe variance or building a much smaller pool, the
Petitioner would not be able to install the pool they would like to build. If the variances are approved,
the Petitioner will need to appear before the Board of Public Works through the Engineering
Department for approval to encroach because the pool deck would be immediately adjacent to the
drainage/utility easement. The pool would not actually be in the easement and is similarto existing
structures and improvements within the subdivision. The Department recommended positive
consideration.
Mrs. Plavchak asked why the pool could not be located elsewhere on the lot. On the diagram it looked
like there was room in another area. That way they would not be encroaching on any easements.
Mr. Lambert said there were two reasons. There is .ill existing 25 feet of screening which would be
very helpful. Further down there is no screening, making the pool would be out in the middle of the
view of the neighbors. They wanted to leave the remainder of the lot open for other types of use.
Mrs. Torres moved to approve Docket Nos. 08070028 V and 08070029 V, Beriault Pool. .The motion
was seconded by Mr. Dierckman and APPROVED 4-1, with Mrs. Plavchak casting the negative vote.
Mr. Hawkins reminded Mr. Lambert he would need to contact the Board of Public Works for
encroachment.
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Mr. Lambert stated he had spoken with Mr. Glaser and he was not sure an encroachment was needed.
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Mrs. Barton-Holmes stated he would need to confirm with Gary Duncan in the City's Engineering
Department.
I. Old Business
1-2i Ditch Rd Horse Stables
The applicant seeks the following special use and development standards approvals:
Docket No. 08060007 SU Appendix A: Use Table Horse boarding & lessons in S1 District
Docket No. 08060019 V Section 25.0 1.01 (B) (8) Riding arena/stables .excccds square footage of
primary dwelling
The site is located at 13403 Ditch Road and is zoned SllResidential.
Filed by Karen and Kevin I-lammeran, owners.
. Present for the Petitioner: Karen Hammeran. Kevin Hammeran. Drs. Leslie and Sandeep Ahluwalia,
contract buyers, and Mary Slade, Legal Counsel, were also present. An aerial of the area was shown
with existing riding stables. In the packet she had provided an update since last month's meeting and
reference documents. They had made an effort to resolve the concerns of proximity to the existing
homes, manure management, traffic and the number of horses. They had changed the design and
configuration of the arena and riding stable, Illet with the concerned parties, provided literature-based
educational materials, provided frequency of traffic information and written commitments. In the
packet was also an email they had sent after meeting with the concerned parties. They requested to be
advised whether or not the commitments provided would resolve their objections. They stated they
would be open to any specific additions or revisions for resolution. They had received an email from Jo
Bojrab stating she still felt of the operation was too large. They had not received any response from the
Wilhelms. The first thing the contract buyer had done was look at alternative configurations for the
arena and riding stable that would address the Wilhelm's concerns. They are the neighbor immediately
to the north and were concerned about a pasture or parking lot with dumpster being near their home. In
the new design the parking area has been moved away from the fence they share with the Wilhelms.
The parking, horse trailers and dumpster are now visually shielded from the property lines within the
V-shaped area of the newly designed arena and stables. It will be 207 feet from the fence line and
approximately 280 feet from the Wilhelm's house. The setback will be in excess of 1,000 feet from
Ditch Road and 1,200 feet from the entrance to the Estates of Clay West. They met with the involved
parties on August 10 and those minutes were included in the packets provided to the Board members.
All comers of the arena and ridiJ;1g stable were staked out so that all the parties could walk the yard to
see the physical location of the layout of the site. An aerial view of the layout of the property was
shown, indicating the new facilities. She indicated the tree lines that would shield the facility. The u-
shaped facility will fall within the 35% parcel coverage guideline. There will be minimal traffic created
by the facility. The dumpster will be emptied once per week; the grain delivered once per month; the
hay delivered 3 to 4 times per year; lessons would be two to three days per week; the number of
boarders present at any given time would be two to three. Only about ten percent of horse owners
compete, therefore out of 20 horses boarded only one to two would be going to shows between the
months of June and October. She shared the traffic count obtained from the City of Carmel; Ditch
between 13151 Street and 136th (includes their driveway and one entrance to the Estates of Clay West)
was 1,921 cars; 131 st between Ditch and. Towne (includes the south entrance to the Estates of Clay
West) was over 5,000 cars. Their property was pointed out on the aerial map. They are surrounded by
subdivisions. In 2002 when they bought the property, it was very cornman to see people riding their
horses up and down Ditch Road. A lot ofthe traffic comes from other sources. She felt the impact of a
riding stahle on their property would be extremely limited. A copy of the written cornmitments was in
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the Board member's packets. She highlighted the main points: the existing tree line would stay in
place, location and configuration of the arena/riding stable to U-shaped design, limiting the hours of U
the recreational access and lessons to 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM with a maximum of four horse trailers on
site, private riding lessons would be one hour with a maximum of five in any group lessons, no
competitions held on site, boarding limited to 20 horses rotated out on pasture with a maximum of
three horses per acre of pasture, a vet clinic wilInot be on the premises, the stalls will be cleaned daily
with the waste removed weekly, dumpster screened with stockade fencing a minimum of 100 feet from
the property line and 200 feet from the existing homes, exterior lighting would be for safety and
maintenance and consistent with theresidential character.
Dr. Leslie Ahluwalia has bred, raised and trained horses most of her life and is a practicing
veterinarian. She was hired by the Indiana Horse Racing Commission to work at the two Indiana
racetracks for aboot three years. A letter of support from another veterinarian was included in the
Board's packets addressing the issue of20 horses on just over six acres. Material was also included in
the packets regarding horses, their management and numbers per acre. The requested boarding stable
would be one of the smallest in the area. A boarding stable usually has about 40 or so horses, such as
Lucky Farm, Rinehart Farm, etc. The number of horses per acre is an issue when they receive their
nutrition from the field grasses. When the nutrition is addressed with grain and hay that is no longer
the case. When exercise is addressed through an indoor riding arena or all weather exercise, then it is
not an issue. The manure will be handled with removal once per week. With regards to delivery traffic,
it would be the same for 10 or 20 horses. The boarders and visitors would not cause a lot of traffic.
Mrs. Hammeran reiterated a recreational Special Use for a riding stable in the S-l zoning district is C
permitted under the Ordinance. They are not asking for the property to be rezoned for business, but
only to be able to provide boarding and riding lessons. She felt their findings of fact had been met. .
Accommodations had been made to the design of the arena and riding stable to address the objections
and concerns from the last meeting.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the petition.
Remonstrance:
Dave Coots, attorney, represented the Wilhelm family and the Estates of West Clay. The application
requires the Petitioner to establish the Special Use will not be injurious to the public health, safety and
general welfare in a substantially negative manner. They believed this use was too intense for the size
of the property. From the diagram shown earlier, it was apparent that the area to be occupied by the U-
shaped arena/riding stable and pasture is substantially less than one-third ofthe six-acre parcel. The
entryway constitutes an acre by measurement. The house, the pool and the area outside of the horse use
area is approximately two acres. The calculation for the area for the stable and horse-use equals 1.56
acres. They felt that was too intense to house 20 horses within that area. It is beyond the scope of the
uses within the area. Mr. and Mrs. Fleming on 136th Street, who submitted a letter, house 3 to 4 horses
on 10 acres; He felt policing the commitments put a burden on the adjacent properties. He also
believed the use would affect adjacent land llse and value because.ofthe items that had to be addressed
within the conmlitments. The fact they had to be addressed, pointed out the significance of the impact.
This is a developing residential area with one lot per acre developments. The Special Use has to be L
consistent with the district. There are horse farms within the district, but they are not confined
operations with 20 horses operating on less than a 2-acre parcel. n
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Andrea Kester, 24 Circle Drive. She had no connection to the Wilhelms or the Petitioner. She was
present for another item on the agenda. They were in the same position in 1993. A lot of promises were
made and not kept. She did not want the same situation to be propagated in Carmel.
Rebuttal:
Mary Slade, attorney with Plunkett Cooney, Indianapolis. When the Hammerans bought this property
in 2002, the character of this neighborhood from 136th Street, 13151 Street, Six Points and Ditch Road
was the horse community. This area was annexed into Carmel in 2003. She felt it was totally
inconsistent to say this petition would be inconsistent with the character and use in the neighborhood.
There are eleven existing stables and farn1s within that area. Two ofthose eleven stables have riding
stables. They range from farms having small barns with small animals to farms with large operations
of 40 horses on ten acres. The packet had outlined the strength of the proposed commitment and also
the potential purchaser's background. The proposed purchaser/resident is a licensed veterinarian who
must maintain her integrity. It is physically suitable for the premises because of the character and
nature of the surrounding area. She felt that basically the City of Carmel has inherited horse country
and this property is in the middle of it. There would be economic detriment if the Board decided
against this petition in the middle of horse country. Then horse country would start deteriorating in this
area that was dedicated to this type of use before and after the annexation into Carmel.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Mrs. Barton-Holmes gave the Department Report. Any riding arena or stable would require a special
use and variances based on the size of the animals and size of the building needed for a riding arena.
TIllS area is characterized by small farms with bams and stables and other horse fanns wlllch vary in
the amount of acreage and number of horses. This particular six-acre site would be heavily screened.
The buildings are not visible from Ditch Road. With the tree line, the back of the property is not visible
from the road. The buildings would be visible primarily by the adjoining property owners. The
proposed V-shaped arena would screen any horse trailers and dumpster to further mitigate any
potential impact on adjoining property. The Petitioner has committed several restrictions regarding the
an10unt of traffic, number of lessons, size of lessons, and types of uses on the site. While the number of
horses proposed is high, the Petitioner does seem to be qualified to be able to manage that number of
horses on the site. The use would be consistent with the surrounding area. With the recorded
commitments, the existing screening which is to be preserved, and the close configuration of the arena,
the Department recommended positive consideration.
Mr. Dierckmanasked how many horses were in the Petition at last month's meeting.
Mrs. Barton-Holmes confirmed it was also 20 horses, same as presented at this meeting.
Mr. Broach asked for a review of some of the other operations in the area and how many horses, how
many acres, etc.
Mrs. Hammeran pointed out the arenas and riding stables within their block. Rinehart's is on 141 st
Street with 50 stalls on 10 acres with an indoor arena and stable. There is a subdivision located across
the street. Lucky Farms is at 96th and Ditch with 40 horses on 10 acres. A new gated community is
being built on adjoining property. She did not feel.developers would be putting in new gated
communities and subdivisions next to the properties, if the horses would be a detriment to their
property values.
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Mr. Broach asked Dr. Ahluwalia ifher veterinary practice was off-site. If so, what would happen when
she was away from the property during the hours of8:00 am to 8:00 pm? Would boarders still come, il
would there still be lessons? U
Dr. Ahluwalia confirmed her job was off-site. There could be lessons while she was away, but she did
not plan for that at this time. The boarders could come any time between 8:00am and 8:00 pm to ride
and bathe their horses, etc.
Mr. Dierckman wanted to see the aerial view of the Rinehart property. How long had they been there?
Mrs. Hammeran stated they had been there before the subdivisions were built. The saple was true for
Lucky Farms.
Mr. Dierckman moved to approve Docket Nos. 08060007 SU and 08060019 V, Ditch Rd Horse
Stables. The motion was seconded by Mr. Hawkins. Docket No. 08060007 SU was APPROVED 5-0.
Docket No. 08060019 V was APPROVE)) 4-1, with Mr. Dierckman casting the negative vote.
2-3i. Monon & Main, Unit 3D. WITHDRAWN
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket Nos. 08030016 V SeCtion 15.26 ofPUD Z-462-04 non-residential uses on 2nd & 3rd floors
Docket Nos. 08030028 V Section 2.13.B of PUDZ-462-04 2-car garage requirement
The site is located northeast of Third Ave NW and Main St., and is zoned PUDlPlanned Unit Development. 0
Filed by Mr. and Mrs. Ardalan for Soori Gallery. , .
4-5i. Monoo & Main, Units 3A & 4F. WITHDRAWN
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approval:
Docket Nos. 08030014-15 V Section 15.26 ofPUD Z-462-04 l1:on-residential uses on 2nd & 3rd floors
Docket Nos. 08030026-27 V Section 2.13.B ofPUD 1..,-462-04 2-car garage requirement
The sites are located northeast of Third Ave NW and Main St., and are zoned PUDlPlanned Unit Development.
Filed by Mr. and Mrs. Ardalan for Soori Gallery.
6-12i. Circle KJSbeU TABLED UNTIL OCTOBER 27
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 08030019 V Section 23F.05.01B Build-to line greater than 10'
Docket No. 08030020 V Section 23F.07.02 Height under 26'
Docket No. 08030021 V Section 23F.07.01 One occupiable floor
Docket No. 08030022 V Section 23F.08.01 Floor Area Ratio minimum 0.5
Docket No. 08030023 V Section 23F.06.02 Frontage minimum 70%
Docket No. 08030024 V Section 23F.15.02 Parking located in front of building
Docket No. 08030025 V Section 23F.l1.03 Landscaping & screening
The site is located at 1230 South Range Line Road and is zoned B3/Business, within the Carmel Drive/Range
Line Road Overlay.
Filed by DonaldPisher of Insight .Engineering for Mac's Convenience Stores, LLC.
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Gl. Report on 1993 Use Variance status - UV-35-93
Discussion was held regarding Item G1. UV-35-93.
Mr. Molitor stated he had given copies of his letter to the Mylins Counsel to Mr. Hollibaugh for
review, along with the Commitments to be executed. In addition there was a Department Report. He
recommended the Board make a motion to conduct a Public Hearing on the matter.
Mrs. Torres asked ifthe Mylins were present.
Mr. Dierckman moved to conduct a Public Hearing for UV-35-93. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Hawkins and APPROVED 5-0.
Mr. Broach asked if the neighbors had seen the commitments. Had the Mylins already agreed to
the cormnitments at the Department's request?
Mr. Molitor stated in his opinion and the Department's opinion these commitments reflect the
conditions that were imposed by the Board in 1993. However, there were no written commitments
. signed or recorded at that time. All they have gone on in the last fifteen years are the recollections of
what the Board had imposed at that time. At this point they have been reduced to a written form
exactly as the conditions the Board had imposed in 1993. The public can make comments as to
whether the commitments are adequate at this point.
Mr. Broach asked if there was anything additional or was this just reflective of the 1993 agreement.
Before the public got an opportunity to cormnent, he wanted them to know what they were
commenting about.
Mr. Molitor summarized the commitments. "The owners acknowledged that the Board granted them a
variance of use on or about August 23, 1993 which allows them to utilize the real estate, in particular
the outdoor swimming pool located on the real estate, to conduct private swimming lessons. As a
condition of the Board's approval and in accordance with Indiana Code 36-7-4-9-18.5 the owners
commit that all lessons will be conducted between the hours of9:00 am and 12:30 pm and during a
period of not more than nine consecutiv~ weeks each season between the dates of May 22 and
August 15. The owners further commit that they shall instruct all persons with whom they do business
that they shall comply with all parking and traffic regulations of the City of Carmel." The
commitments go ob and indicate that they are binding on the owners and subsequent owners of the real
estate if the real estate would ever be sold. The Staffis authorized to record the commitments with the
County Recorder. It gives the Board formal authority to enforce the commitments, as well as the
Department without the Board's approval. He thought the Department's approach was to get the
Board's input, feedback and direction before taking action on its own. The original commitments were
signed earlier in the day. They had not been recorded, but were in suitable form for recordation.
Dave Coots represented the Petitioner. The commitments presented by Mr. Molitor had been signed
and encumbered the property. They were premised upon the use variance that was granted in 1993.
Since that time there has been considerable variation over the summers from year to year as to the
length oflessons. It grew out of the fact that the school became more and more popular with more
students. Mr. and Mrs. Mylin are Cannel teachers and use their summers for swim instructions. They
have expanded the school. When it was brought to their attention hy Mr. Brennan at the behest of
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adjoining property owners, an agreement was worked out with the City. The agreement would allow U. ~..
the Mylins to fulfill the commitments they had made to students and also the commitments they had
made in 1993 would be acknowledged and reverted to. Those are the commitments that are ready to be
recorded after approval by the Board.
Members of the public were invited to speak in favor or opposition to the commitments.
Remonstrance:
Jay Craig, 22 Circle Drive, across the street from the Mylins. An aerial of the area was shown. Fifteen
years ago they had supported the Mylins and their request to give swimming lessons, because of the
limited hours, number of students and just three instructors. They had been amazed at the Mylins
success. They have grown a few lessons into a major business without regard for the impact on the
neighborhood. The neighbors have not been able to enjoy their suIirrners for many years. With the
success ofthe Olympics there is no doubt they will be able to expand their lessons even further by
going to another pool in the neighborhood. All the adjacent property owners were at this meeting
because the Mylins refuse to recognize that the business is no longer a small summer sideline business
for teachers. As a small business owner he knew how hard it was for someone to make the
commitment to move to a new facility that can accommodate an increased clientele. They are sorry
they have been forced to ask the Board to enforce the commitments and revoke the variance.
Robert Lennon, 26 Circle Drive, across the street. He indicated the street on the aerial. It has become a
blind comer with overgrown bushes in the City easement along the Mylin's property. Their
commercial swimming operation runs seven day a week, starting at 8:00 am and ending at lJ
approximately 4:30 pm, sometimes 5:30 pm. The street has become their parking lot with a minimum
of five cars and up to eight to twelve cars. The Mylins place 15 to 18 orange cones along their property
line all summer. They had permission from one neighbor to park one student's car in their parking lot.
Now that neighbor's lot has five or six cars ata time. There is a furniture refinishing business at the
end of the street. Customers park there and walk down the street. They also parkin front of his house
and walk across the Mylin's property to an adjacent swimming pool that does not have a variance..
They congregate in the street for up to 30 minutes after lessons. The lessons ate supposed tobe 30
minutes long, so every thirty minutes there is another eight to twelve cars coming in. When he tries to
get into his own driveway, he is treated rudely by the customers. They change their clothing in the
streets. There are five to twelve cars at a time with two to three kids in each car. This goes on all day
long. There are kids screaming in the pool all day long. The swimming instructions can be heard all the
way back to the Mcnon. This is a major commercial swimming operation; it is not a school. It is a big
money machine. There is no one policing this operation. No one comes by at 12:30 pm seven days a
week and tells them they have to stop. Carmel Police have been called for parking violations. The cars
park in front of the fire hydrant. One afternoon two police officers came through and there were four or
five cars. About ten minutes later the fire hydrant was blocked. He has not seen one ticket written. It
was completely out of control. They do not abide by the set rules. There is no one to call at 12:30 pm,
2:00 pm or 8:30 am to report violations. They will be back next summer doing what they want, when
they want and however they want. The neighborhood is tired of being bullied. He wondered about
liability. He cannot back out of his driveway because cars are blocking it. Parents pull up and let the
kids out who run across the street. It is a narrow street. His trash has not been picked up several times U
this summer because the trash truck cannot get through. His yard has ruts from the UPS truck, trash
truck, utility trucks etc. going through the lawn to get around the cars. Should he take his trash to City . .u .
Hall or to the Mylin's when the trash truck cannot get tltrough? Do the neighbors need to get umbrella
policies to take care of the liability? He felt the City had some liability because they have allowed the
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Mylins to ignore the variance. There was no one to call to get this stopped.
Andrea Kester. 24 Circle, adjacent to the pool area. She had a copy of the Mylin's application for the
variance in 1993. They very explicitly state that their hours will be 9:00 am to 12:30 pm, only eight to
nine weeks, only Mr. and Mrs. Mylin would teach and possibly one other certified instructor. She also
had a copy of the minutes from the hearing with Mr. Coots confirming these conditions. Also there
would be three students maximum, and parking would be in the Mylin's driveway. These were the
conditions established in 1993. They agreed that teaching children to swim was a good thing. No one
wants a child to drown. Even though their children knew how to swim, they sent them to the Mylin's
for lessons. As the closest neighbor to the pool, they felt they could live with the conditions stipulated
by the Mylins. But then the Mylins turned their good intentions ofteaching children to swim into a big
business by operating outside the conditions of their variance. This affected the safety of their
neighborhood and disrupted their lives. That was when it became obvious that the Mylin's business
needed to be removed from their residential neighborhood. The Mylins started teaching on Saturdays
and Sundays and expanded their business hours from 8:00 am to 5:00 pm, they increased the number
of instructors, they increased the number of students, they increased the number of weeks of
instruction and this year they even increased the number of pools they used. That caused the neighbors
to be at the mercy of the Mylin swimming schedule all summer. Ever since the Mylins started this
business, the neighbors never have a quiet holiday. They teach on all those days. Kids are constaiJ.tly
crying and screaming and the instructors are yelling over them. It makes it unbearable to outside iiI
their yard. Over the years when they have had outside work done, they couid not stand in the driveway
to talk to contractors because of the noise coming from the poo1. They have to have those discussions
inside. If the Mylins had adhered to the hours of operation, they would schedule appointments before
9:00 am or after 12:30 pm. The Mylin's business clients attest to the wonderful job they are doing
teaching children to swim. But these clients are only affected by the noise, traffic congestion and
parking issues for 30 minutes a day for five days. How many of them would tolerate this activity in
their neighborhood all day, every day, all summer? The Mylins have ignored multiple warnings from
the City and an appeal from the neighbors. They have made promises to comply with the variance
conditions, but they have continued to demonstrate they have no intention to comply with their
variance conditions. On March 1 st at a neighborhood birthday luncheon, Linda Mylin had said they
would only teach until noon. But when the lessons started in May, they ran from 8:00 am until
5 :00 pm. Their actions indicate they care only about the money the business generates and are
oblivious to the hardships created for the neighborhood. This was. why the neighbors felt the Mylins
will never comply with the conditions of their existing variance. The business needs to be moved out
afthe neighborhood and into a facility that can better accommodate it. The only way to insure the
business was moved out of Circle Drive was to revoke the 1993 Valiance. They felt if the Mylins
were given another chance to honor the variance conditions, they will overstep the conditions again
next May. She gave the copy ofthe variance application to the Department to be copied.
Alice Craig, 22 Circle Drive. She showed a layout ofthe subdivision of29 homes. She indicated all the
neighbors who were present for this hearing. The owner of the driveway being used for parking is a
95-year old gentleman who is in the hospitaL A residential neighborhood should not be impacted by a
business. The Mylins have taken over this neighborhood.
Rebuttal:
Mr. Coots stated what they had heard at this hearing pointed to the execution and entry of the
commitments that are recordable and do have more of an enforcement mechanism, He was aware of
one letter last year sent to the Mylins about the extended hours of operation. There was one letter in
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June of this year that brought this matter before the Board at this hearing.
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Mr. Broach asked if the Board could revoke avariance.
Mr. Molitor stated they could not revoke a variance granted fifteen years ago on their own initiative.
He would prefer to discuss in Executive Session the Board's authority to initiate litigation with regard
to enforcement ofthe conditions that were imposed fifteen years ago.
Mr. Broach pointed out the commitments covered the time period, May 22 to August 15 and it covers
the time during the day, 9:00 am to J 2:30 pm. But it did not cover the number of instructors and the
number of students for intensity. He wondered why that was not incorporated .into the commitments.
Mrs. Torres stated the original variance did cover the intensity.
Mr. Hawkins wanted a copy of the original application and minutes for that reason. If the original
stated three students and parking in the driveway, he would like to see that incorporated into the new
commitments.
Mr. Broach felt another disturbing issue to him and possibly the other Board members was the fact that
they adopt commitments and no one enforces them. There are City employees in the Department
whose job is to enforce these commitments. There should be a better mechanism, so that the 0-
commitments the Board insists on are adhered to by the Petitioner. .
Mr. Dierckman stated there is not enough Staff to enforce these commitments all over the City. They
need to approve things that can be enforced. They cannot revoke the variance, so what can they do
other than sue on the City's behalf?
Mr. Hollibaugh stated the Department had talked about putting a time limit on any Use Variance. Then
the Petitioner would have to come back to the Board. They could check to make sure that everything
was being conducted according to the variance qr commitments. They do have to rely a lot on the
public to let the City know about violations. When that happens the Department does the best they can.
They work with the Petitioner to either come back to the Board for a review/update or use the Court
for compliance.
Mr. Dierckman asked ifthe neighbors could sue on behalf of the City;
Mr. Hollibaugh did not know what the neighbors could do. The City can write tickets or site them in
City Court.
Mr. Hawkins confirmed it clearly stated ~hese would be one-half segments with three students per
class, occasionally employing a third teacher, with parking spaces in the drive to accommodate those
present for each one-half segment. However, in the overlap period there have been cars parking along iU _
the roadside at the end of Circle Drive and traffic flow is not impaired. That was the fifth paragraph on I
page 13 of the minutes of the August 23, 1993 meeting. It ;;eemed to him that at a minimum, these
should be entered into the current commitments. Or the commitments should not be recorded because
it appeared the minutes from the hearing were more restrictive.
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Mrs. Torres was extremely frustrated to know the Board approved something expecting people to
uphold their commitments. She felt the Mylins just wanted to get the Use Variance and they knew all
along they were not going to obey the commitments. The Board was stuck because they could not
revoke the variance. What action could they take? Why was the Board hearing this? The situation
needed to be remedied.
Mr. Molitor was sorry to put the Board off, but he would prefer to convene in Executive Session to
discuss what action they might take with respect to litigation, instead of discussing it in a public
seSSIOn.
Mr. Dierckman moved they meet in Executive Session. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Plavchak
and APPROVED 5-0.
Mr. Hawkins preferred the commitments not be recorded. He was afraid they would supersede what
the hearing reflected which was more restrictive.
Mr. Molitor reminded them it required 48 hours notice for an Executive Session.
Mrs. Plavchak asked if it was something they needed to act on right now or were the Mylins back in
school and it would be an issue that needed to be addressed before next year.
Mr. Hollibaugh was informed the lessons were to end on or about August 15th.
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New Business
There was no New Business.
K. Adj oununent
Mrs., Plavchak moved to adjourn. The motion was seconded by Mr. Hawkins and APPROVED 5-0.
The meeting adjourned at 8:4'0 PM.
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