HomeMy WebLinkAboutRemonstrance letters
~-f 'I~S\ &.tV\T~ -+h1,Al CL-
tyJJJ I' ~: ,tJ (D2.h"\er ~t \ I ~b R..
-\y"tf c 1 ~S4 5; IN Nil .b:,":iT
{A )105fltO \ ' "
I \ (P'f0 ~ }'f'w h d I Of VI I 0::;
, ".j- C\ I Q\.~ -f...L Sa tlfle (Cvi7 L
'OJ )r J , LJ s:
V QJ--I DVlE:, +vi k!5~ 1U , lP. ""'
L, J v 1'1 eJ)/tI rfI/J() ~ VJl.II, t --t1\ ~ J\
1~ ,',.. l"'crt' ~ -""_\\~ '-"~_ r'\l'..tl ClIO" '\'" -r'
?;> G~~ U "\:I> \ .-\f'I~' '
"'" ~'~'~~ 6\-o:r' 1J-~II}d0?::> .
Proptl~ed medical "facility
By Beth Douglass Siloox
Star correspondent
Traffic was on the minds of
many of those who attende~ the
Carmel Clay planComm.is::don
meeting Tuesday.
Their attention was focused
on a propqsl;!d multitenant medi-
calb~i1dingat the southwest cor-
ner of u.s. 31 and 136th Street.
judyMiller opposes Meri~an
l':!'orthMedica1 because sb,e fears
it wW ~~an already bad traffic,
situation worse.
raises traffic eo,ncerns .
, '
ber David Cremeans doesn't be-
lieve 'Meridian North Medical
will cause a dramatic increase fu
fraffic. ,Many other us~s would
cause fax more traffic, he said.
"I don't' kn9w how this peti-
tiorler could fix it. It ]:!eeds the
city engineer to.fa: it/, Creme;n;l.~
said.
Another concern came from
Bill Beeson,a phys!~iau whose
.medicaL facility adj~ins the pro-
posed site:
~eight requirements for the:'
area,set forth by the city, call for
two-story builcUngs. Beeson,
through,his attprney, Scott Wiatt,
voiced, concern that .the two-'
story Meridlan, ,N(lttb lVl~diCal
would make,i~ difficult for his pa-
tients to flildhis one-story build-
ing. . '
Wiatt said his client doesn't
want to appear to'be inthe "back
lot"
, l\. speciaLseIWices colIUIli,ttee
S8eTrafflc, Page NA2
:~-
Traffic
CARMEL
Developer Frank. Cosmas 'said
he's tried to address the issue'by
granting the city easements for
road improvements - including,
a possibleroundabou! on Qlinois
Street --" meant to reduce tramc
congestion. But the city h~s I!ot
formwated any plaIis. .
\Vbile planners 'a~eed im"
pr9vementsare needed at the
intersection, commission mem-
;"1
~
waS sehCon to the commission's
Subdivision Committee for <,:on-
slderation 91'\ ,May 13, as we!).:
Tl:iis came only after Mark
Hartman, who .lives neat the
proposed s,!bdivision, ques-
tioned t,he necessity of a road
. .that deacl"ends into his property,
as well as drainage issue's he
inightJace ilS' a result ofrerouted
runoff Water.
,iWe all' know. what a 'water
front' piece of property thatis,'"
Hartman saicL .
Commission member Cre-
means concUrred. "It's the wet.
test part in Clay Township. tm
sJ1I1Prised les not a t~e."
The subdivision's drainage
plan includes storm sewers, a.
football field-sized, dry ret~n-
t~on pond. and the disch;n:ge 'of
runoff-into Elliot creek.
Exactly what that runoff water
might contaln is' of co~cern to
commission .member Rat Rice.
She asked developer Chuck
Wr~ght to provide more infqrma"
tion to the Subdivision Commit"
tee.
. Planner doesn't believe
facility will be a problem.
From NA1
will addtessall these concerns
May 13. , .
. Also Tuesday, thepr,inlary plat
for Towne Point subdivisiQn -
:1 WhiChi,,$, p,r,oP,osed for, 2, 5 acre,s, on,'
the northeast cornet of West
131st Street and' Towne Road -
._-~-----_. -~, - -~ --
t,
Christine Mytelka
12280 Creekwood Lane
Cannel, IN 46032
r: !
Subdivision Committee
c/o Ramona Hancock
One Civic Square
Cannel, IN 46032
I(/::--. ~c
1t~~0" (,1)///;,0
1" CI
/)0;; ~1~~,'
Re: Clarian Hospital PUD Request for 116th Street between Meridian and Spring Mill
My concerns:
1. A Hospital is Not the Right Use for this Property
. The traffic is already difficult at 116th and Spring Mill
.. The use is much more intensive than anything else on the west side of Meridian
.. There is no overwhelming need for a hospital here
I think we're talking about quality of life here. It already often takes three traffic light
cycles to get through 1 16th and Meridian at rush hour. If this increases everyone's
commute by just 5 minutes, it will still be a daily detrimental effect on thousands of
workers. To justify this cost to the community, the planned development should fill an
urgent need of the community. This has not been shown.
2. Reject the Proposed Rezoning for the Property along Spring Mill
II Spring Mill is a fast county road that cannot handle commercial traffic
. Much ofthe conunercial property already on Meridian is underutilized
. There is no other commercial property on Spring Mill from Kessler all the way
north
. Almost all the property on Spring Mill is thriving single family. The only
residential property more intensive than single family is a portion of West Park
(Dorset and Spring Mill)
The only difficulty with single family housing on this spot is the proposed hospital itself
(who wants to live next to a hospital with sirens going at all hours ofthe night?). But I
tliink this problem only underscores the basic inappropriateness of a hospital on this
property. And if the hospital is built, it needs to be counterbalanced with strong buffers ~
all trees left intact and other property left largely undeveloped. This may help a little to
balance the very high intensity use represented by the hospital itself
3. No Curb Cut Directly from the Hospital to Spring Mill
One of the proposed plans shows two lines of egress from the center of the hospital, one
south to I 16th and the other west to Spring Mill. Hospital traffic on Spring Mill would:
o Cause a lot of congestion
o Cause a traffic hazard - making a left turn south onto a fast country road (40 mph
posted, but 60 is not uncommon) is a dangerous maneuver for ambulances or
people disoriented from recent surgery or illness
I:
The above-mentioned West Park subdivision that contains some town homes was
wisely denied a curb cut on Spring Mill (egress is onto IllinoislDorset). How much more
important it is to keep hospital traffic off Spring Mill.
Respectfully yours,
~~
Christine Mytelka
L~
.II.:
. Rrrn\/F:O
DOCS
12360 Creekwood Lane
Carmel, IN 46032
April 9, 2003
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing a letter on behalf of my family who currently reside at 12360 Creekwood
Lane to oppose any rezoning plans to accommodate the proposed.-.Clarian Hospital
building, etc at SpringmiIl Rd. and 1 16th Street. If rezoning has passed I continue my
opposition to the proposed plans of building a hospital, Illinois street extension, helipad,
retail, and multi-family housing. All of the above would be devastating to the
surrounding residential neighborhoods and subdivisions. We would welcome the
opportunity to talk with you further regarding this matter. Thank you for your time.
S incerel y ,
7,jf~
Kevin K. Schmidt
tR.u~-ohah 4.J. Jc/vmLdt
Elizabeth H. Schmidt
03/24/03 MON 09:04 FAX 3176306691
la]002
March 23, 2003
~~~~
,~ A\ <~\
'-..' 'J.~ \~~
ii:iI F/~ECF;Vr.D ~;~,h'J
/1',11 24 -
I 2003 """,
DOCS /:1
A,1
~:'\ y
~
Members of the Subdivision Committee
Carmel City Hall
One Civic Square
Carmel, IN" 46032
Dear Members of the Subdivision Committee,
As a homeowner in Sprint Lake. Estates, ~e appr~iat~d the ~ommittee's attention to our
concerns at the March 18 meetmg regarding theCla:flan proJect.
As you heard, there are many emotional and financial reasons our community is
concerned with the development of those 100+ acres for a hospital and with the
introduction of Illinois Street. We do feel it would adversely affect our quality of I ife and
property values where we have invested much. A 4-1ane road where there is currently
none, a 24-hours of operation commercial facility, a helipad, siren~ and a daycare center
in our backyards aU combine to make it an unappealing proposal for nearby residents.
However, there are also reasons to give careful consideration to the current proposal that
affect the Carmel Community as a whole.
As noted by Members of the Executive Committee of the Plan Commission March 18th,
using the land on the Meridian corridor for a hospital may not be the best economic use
for this resource. The State of Indiana is struggling financially, and a hospital may bring
some short-term benefits but prevent more substantial long-term gains brought by a
different type of business .
You also heard that those of us living on the woods bordering the Clarian project are very
attached to tbem for the wildlife it sustains, the peace and beauty of them, and tbe screen
from US 31 noise it provides, as well as from any future development of that land, And
aesthetically, it benefits an of Carmel to have green spaces maintained. But from a
practical standpoint, we also know our lots have poor drainage, as does the woods. It is
likely that stand of trees remains and was never farmed because it was too wet. If if
becomes necessary to develop part of the woods, we ask that the Subdivision Committee
assess its suitability to be built on before any woods are needlessly destroyed.
And some may argue that if only we home buyers had tenaciously investigated the
possibility of Illinois Street, we would have known better. But, the bottom line is this is a
very YOWlg development, approved by the City of Carmel for development. When we
looked at the end of our quiet street, it bordered a Ritz parking lot. It never occurred to
us to look into the possible introduction of a road. There was no room for one. And it
certainly never occurred to us that our properties could be taken to make room for one,
especially since those lots are still being sold as home sites. As it stands, this is a very
smaH neighborhood of 44 home sites. Encroaching on the lots oftlte cut-de-sacs for a
road would make them unbuildable and undesirable. This would make OUT neighborhood
unduly sman and awkwardly truncated. As a small neighborhood, we need those home
03/24/03 MON 09:05 FAX 3176306691
(gJ 003
sites for a sense of community and the manpower and homeowners dues they bring to
neighborhood goals.
Examination of the Illinois Street proposal shows that it bas been successfully routed
around existing neighborhoods - with the exception of S2ring Lake Estates, the
neighborhood directly north of us, and one home on III Street. There are altellk1.tive
options that would spare us as well. We ask the Subdivision Committee to give the same
consideration to our neighborhoods and route DJinois Street in front oftbe Ritz Charles as
it was originally planned. We also ask that consideration be given to tbe need for a 4-
lane road with a median. This encourages higher speed traffic and requires more space.
For a road that does not have enough north-south distance to be a major traffic artery, it
should not have enough traffic to require 4 lanes. A 2-lane road would require les~: land
and provide more options for placement.
As for researching the land under question for the Clarian project prior to purchasing a
home here, investigation of zoning for that area indicated it was S-2 Residential. Again,
it did not occur to us that it couId be completely rezoned for Commercial development.
We can only ask questions if we know that we need to question beyond what is apparent.
And now we are asking - for you to'carefully represent our concerns during this decision
making process you have been given.
Thank you for your tim~ and attention to our concerns.
Sincerely,
1~t'^' ~.
Jan and Randall MiUer
325 Mallard. Court
Carmel, IN 46032
(317) 848-6416
....
03/17/0.'1 MON 1'3:57 FAX 3176.'106691
F
I(l]002
Members of the ExeculiveCommiltee of the Plan commission
Carmel City Hall
One Civic Square
Cannel, IN 46032
~
March 17, 2003
Dear Members of the Plan Commission,
We are home owners in the Spring Lake Estates neighborhood. just north of the proposed Clarian project at the
northwest comer of 1.161h Street and Meridian, We have several concerns regarding this project that we would
appreciate your consideration of pliOI' to the Plan Commission meeting in Marett
We have three primary areas Of concern:
1. Illinois Street
On Clarian's plans, Illinois street is shown being completed right up to our neighborhood property
and in line to run through existing residential lots in Spring Lake Estates. We request that
1:1 Illinois Street not be aligned to run through existing residential property, and
o Illinois street on Clanan property be truncated prior to the tree line to avoid unnecessary
destruction of woods since the exact location for future expansion oflHinois Street has not
yet been finalized.
2. Tree border on I'lorth end of CHarian project
Our understanding is that Clarian intends to leave 100 feet of tree-line between the residential
property and their development. We request that
o This footage be maximized as a natural, existing, attractive buffer betWeen a residential
neighbOltJoodand a highly commercial development
o No walking trails be placed within this buffer zone to maintain neighborhood privacy
o Additional space in Area 2-8 be designated as Tree Conservation as the homes on the
cul-de-sac will be most adversely impacted by the loss of woods, hospital light and noise,
the introduction of Illinois Street expansion, and the business proposed for placement in
Area 2-8.
3. Area 2-8
At the public meeting held by C1anan in January, C1ansn representatives were proposing a Day
Care CenterforArea 2-8. In the detailed Clarian North Hospital Campus PUD (January 17,2003,
page 11), several other options are also proposed. We request that
o One of tile alternative buSInesses be placed in Area 2-8 and that the Day Care placed in
another sight Day Cares with outside play areas can be extremely noisy. We believe
the noise from a Day Care placed directly behind our homes would adversely affect our
neighborhood quality of rife. There is plenty of a1temative space to locate this facility. and
those of us closest to the proposed Illinois street expansion with properties baddng up to
the woods already stand to lose the most from this project In terms of substantial quality
of life and property value.
03/17/03 MON 13:57 ~~ 3176306691
(
141 003
March 17. 2003
ell Page 2
1:1 The Plan Commission Commiltee members give special attention to location of parking in
Area 2-6 and how those plans will affect headlight direction towards existing homes.
We sincerely appreciate your attention to our concerns. We have only been homeOwners in this neighborhood for
7 months and have serious concerns regarding potential changes in quality of life and property values in that short
period of time. We chose to live in Carmel based on its history of being sensitive to neighborhOod and business
appearances and the concerns of its residents.
Respectfully yours,
~
Jan and Randall Miller
325 Mallard Court
Carmel, IN 46032
(317}~18
March I G, 2003
City Of Carmel
Clarian Hospital
lntctested Parties
Mr. & Mrs. David W. Shell
12225 Teal Lane
Carmel, In. 46032
Gentlemen:
As residents of Springlake Estates we would like to express our opinion on the proposals to alter the
subdivision Please accept tlllS letter as our voice as we are unable to attend the March 18th meeting.
We would be unhappy to find out that an)' decisions had been made to change any of the subdivision's
common ground, the berm on the East End o(the lake, the streets, or any of the existing lots. We are
against the use of Eminent Domain to obtain control of any part of the'subdivision.
We paid a premium price for our lot on the lake because of the views that the lot afforded us Any changes
to the above mentioned areas "Ilill affect our views and the value of our home.
We are also not happy that most the woods to the south of Mallard Ct. are possibly going to be destroyed
and tllat Illinois Street is scheduled to be so close to our homes. Most of the people who have built their
homes in tillS small subdivision have done so because tItey appreciated the beauty and nature of the lake
and the woods. Please don't start taking these treasures away from us and our neighbors.
Sincerely /8 a~ 1t/ Jlu.le
David W Shell
./-:'.1 ".
~....\ \. "'
/6.",~""\
l<:,/ {\
t"-'l A
!:-:j RECF,11,;TD
\--,,"1 I: ,j' Ii) 2(iJ3
\'-'~
p~\ DOCS
'(--~
v../),
'\6~'h '
'<L18TTC~\ '
--...-,,~-
03/17/2003 17:01
"
1317578~~~~:=--=--4
ROCKLER INDIANAPOLS
PAGE 01
March 16, 2003
Dear Member of Carmel Plan Commission:
We are writing as concerned homeowners In Spring L.ake Estates. As you are aware,
the March 18 Carmel Plan Commission will hear information regarding the petition of
Clarion Hospital's proposed project for the Northwest corner of Meridian and 116th
,treet. Spring Lake Estates is directly to the north oHhis property. Upon first 'earning of
this plan several months ago through the newspaper, we were quite relieved when 9
Clarion source was Quoted as saying that the existing wood& would remain untouched.
The woods is between our neighborhood and the property. During attendance at the
January 8th public meeting with Clarion, we learned that the wood would be reduced to
100 feet of tree.line. This is less than one-fifth of the existing woods. We were told that
this was quite generous as the legal requirement is much le&s than this. We feel it is
important to have this assurance SInd others properly documented. As a neighborhood
we are concerned that the 100 feet of tree--Iine will not remain since Clarion will re-sell
the property not required for the hospital. Even though Clarion may feel it is
unreasonable to ask, we believe that keeping the entire woods intact would be a very
beneficial agreement for our neighborhood. Since the hospital will be a 24 hours/365
days a year operation, we ask that you empathize and consider the amount of privacy
and solitude we will be losing .
During the Janu81')fpublic meeting it was also stated that there would be no access
roads to SpringmiU. However, the current PUD proposal discuss~s one major and two
minor acceSS roads between IllinoiS and Springmill. The current property purchased by
Clarion,that runs along Springmllt Road is zoned residential as are the surrounding
properties along $pringmilL During the meeting we were told by Clarion that this
property was very expensive to buy (we alread knew that) and if the zoning is not
chan~ed then th~ deal is off. We still want to ask that prior to making a decision, the
~Iann.lng .C~mmittee encourages discussions and potential compromises that will result
10 maln.talnlng the neighborhood feeling not only of Spring lakes Estates; but also for
the reSidents and visitors driving along Springmill Road.
La~tly, a :najor concern is the expansion of Illinois street. The combination of these two
proJects, If not ha~dled with great care will negatively impact the quality of life of Spring
Lakes.Esta:tes r~sld8nts and diminish the property value of our homes. We realize that
man~ Imp~rtant Issues need to be considered. We appreciate your time and
conslderatlon.
SinbdJr /4
Paul and Kathy Haag ~
~':---i'...
~ \, -~-!. /"-
.' t '......
. . , .
ci). QCrn\J'C.\) '\~\
~LJ ?~n~ .~\
,\~\\ \~ ~\l\li) ~~":'i
Dr\r'~ ...)
v'v,) /(,-:/
'~"/
~~- {f/
~6~~
March 16, 2003
Dear Member of Carmel Plan Commission:
We are writing as concerned homeowners in Spring Lake Estates. As you are aware,
the March 18 Carmel Plan Commission will hear information regarding the petition of
Clarion Hospital's proposed project for the Northwest corner of Meridian and 116th
street. Spring Lake Estates is directly to the north of this property. Upon first learning of
this plan several months ago through the newspaper, we were quite relieved when a
Clarion source was quoted as saying that the existing woods would remain untouched.
The woods is between our neighborhood and the property. During attendance at the
January 8th public meeting with Clarion, we learned that the wood would be reduced to
100 feet of tree-line. This is less than one-fifth of the existing woods. We were told that
this was quite generous as the legal requirement is much less than this. We feel it is
important to have this assurance and others properly documented. As a neighborhood
we are concerned that the 100 feet of tree-line will not remain since Clarion will re-sell
the property not required for the hospital. Even though Clarion may feel it is
unreasonable to ask, we believe that keeping the entire woods intact would be a very
beneficial agreement for our neighborhood. Since the hospital will be a 24 hours/365
days a year operation, we ask that you empathize and consider the amount of privacy
and solitude we will be losing.
During the January public meeting it was also stated that there would be no access
roads to Springmill. However, the current PUD proposal discusses one major and two
minor access roads between Illinois and Springmill. The current property purchased by
Clarion that runs along Spring mill Road is zoned residential as are the surrounding
properties along Springmill. During the meeting we were told by Clarion that this
property was very expensive to buy (we alread knew that) and if the zoning is not
changed then the deal is off. We still want to ask that prior to making a decision, the
Planning Committee encourages discussions and potential compromises that will result
in maintaining the neighborhood feeling not only of Spring Lakes Estates; but also for
the residents and visitors driving along Springmill Road.
Lastly, a major concern is the expansion of Illinois street. The combination of these two
projects, if not handled with great care will negatively impact the quality of life of Spring
Lakes Estates residents and diminish the property value of our homes. We realize that
many important issues need to be considered. We appreciate your time and
consideration.
Sincerely,
Paljl and Kathy Haag