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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
Regular Meeting
Monday, Apri127, 2009
6:00 PM
Council Chambers
Present: James Hawkins (President)
Kent Broach
Leo Dierckman
Eazlene Plavchak
Madeleine Torres
Connie Tingley (Recording Secretazy)
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Staff members in attendance: Mike Hollibaugh, DOCS Director
Christine Barton-Holmes, Planning Administrator
Rachel Boone, Planning Administrator
Legal Counsel: John Molitor
Previous Minutes
On a motion made by Madeleine Torres and seconded by Earlene Plavchak:
The Minutes for the meeting dated March 23, 2009 were approved as circulated.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Department Report: Christine Barton Holmes
Tabled to May 18, 2009: Conseco -Higher Education, Docket No. 09030003 UV
Legal Report: John Molitor
Reminder Executive Session scheduled immediately following this meeting
Item 2i, 646 Johnson Drive Appeal, Docket No. 09020014: Plan Commission authorized
attorneys to initiate litigation against building owner
o Two BZA members also members of Plan Commission (Dierckman and Torres)
^ Recommended to recuse themselves; both left meeting
• Mr. Dierckman tried to mediate settlement between building owner and
neighbors
it
• Two alternate members needed before further action
Discussed situation with building owner; no objection to tabling
Plan Commission might be able to resolve dispute
Motion:
On a motion made by James Hawkins and seconded by Eazlene Plavchak:
Docket No. 09020014 V, 646 Johnson Drive Appeal, would be tabled to the May 18, 2009
meeting. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
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Carmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
Apri127, 2009
Public Hearing:
lh. Uptown Partners Feuce Commitment Amend
The applicant seeks the following commitment amendment:
Docket No. 09020004 CA Amend recorded commitment To permit fence design modification
The site is located 531 South Guilford Road and is zoned B7/Commercial
Filed Justin Moffett of Uptown Partners.
Present for Petitioner:
Justin Moffett, Uptown Partners, development company and Highline Construction, builder partner
• Handouts distributed
• Aerial view in packet shown
• Developmental Standazd Variances approved 2007
• ADLS/DP approval from Plan Commission
• Screening and buffering requested by neighbors east of development
• Approved privacy fence to be built in accordance with US 421/Michigan Road standazds
o Overlay requires 8-foot fence with 24 inch brick or stone columns every 24 feet and
cedaz fence panel between columns
^ Fence options did not have adequate life span
• Wood fence portions appear wom after a few seasons
o Want maintenance-free fence for this zero-maintenance community
o Want quality landscaping and fencing
Fence product found for solution
o Manufactured and installed by SimTek '
o Polyethylene with lifetime warranty against fading, cracking and breaks
o Designed to eliminate sagging between posts
o Maintenance free
0 8-foot tall fence panel sections; picture shown
o Both sides have same finished look for aesthetics
o Designed with own column system
^ Problematic to install masonry column every 24 feet
• Difficult to find masonry column to match fence
o SimTek fence not chosen because it is cheaper; $10,000 more than cedar fence
Favorable:
Ann Ihrer, 1046 Timber Creek Drive, Unit 8, adjacent property owner
• How tall; 6 or 8 feet?
Remonstrance: None
Public Hearing closed
Department Report:
Christine Barton-Holmes
• Required fence more commercial style to screen parking lot, building and caz lights
• Proposed fence more residential in appearance and scale
o Would accomplish same end and not detract from overall impact
Department recommended positive consideration
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Carmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
April 27, 2009
Discussion:
• 8-foot fence required by US 421 Overlay
• SimTek fence 8 feet as approved
• Vegetative Swale along property line
• 6-foot fence provide little benefit
Motion: On a motion made by Leo Dierckman and seconded by Eazlene Plavchak:
Docket No. 09020004 CA, Uptown Partners Fence Commitment Amend be approved.
MOTION APPROVED 4-1 (Hawkins negative vote)
2h. Conseco -Higher Education TABLED UNTII. MAY 18
The applicant seeks the following use variance approval:
Docket No. 09030003 UV Appendix A: Use Table Private higher education institution in M3
District
The site is located at 1289 City Center Drive and is zoned M3/Industrial Park.
Filed by Jeff Groth of Conseco for Franklin University
3-6h. Blackwell Park
The applicant seeks the following development standards variances for eight parcels:
Docket 09030007 V Section 8.04.02.D Reduction of minimum lot area
Docket 09030008 V Section 8.04.03.A Reduction in minimum front yard setback
Docket 09030009 V Section 8.04.03.E Reduction in minimum lot width
Docket 09090010 V Section 8.04.03.F Increase in maximum lot coverage
' The sites aze located at 3`d Street NE and aze zoned R2. They are not in the Old Town Overlay District.
Filed by Justin Moffett.
Present for Petitioner:
Justin Moffett and Jeff Langston, Heartwood Custom Homes
• Handouts distributed
• Two yeazs ago purchased three platted building lots from Blackwell family and built three
semi-custom homes on 3`d Avenue NE
o Each sold for approximately $350,000
• Obtained First Right of Refusal for remaining Blackwell property
o Desirable area for appropriate development
• Aerial location shown of 3`° Street and 3`° Avenue NE; northwest of Carmel High School
o Approximately 2.7 acres
o Contains 5 platted lots
o Currently zoned R-2
• If vaziances granted, will seek Plan Commission approval for minor subdivision in compliance
with Subdivision Control Ordinance
• Met with Planning staff for development of property
o Most obvious to develop lots sizes in harmony with adjacent Old Town lots
• Old Town Carmel Overlay District defines lot size, setbacks and azchitectural standazds
o Old Town Chazacter map does not include all properties in Old Town
' o Believe pazcel inadvertently left out of Zoning Ordinance for the Overlay
• Proposed site plan
• Three additional platted, buildable lots bought from Blackwell family
o Included in variance requests to be in conformance with remaining lots
• Variance area is also platted, buildable lots
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Cannel Board of Zoning Appeals
Apri127, 2009
• Unimproved alley will be paved to offer rear-loading gazages
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• One existing 65-foot platted lot on proposed extension of 3`
Avenue NE
• Six 50-foot lots on the west side
• Two 60-foot lots on right side
o Larger to offer rear-load garages
• Existing platted pazcel in bottom right corner of map
• Proposed pazk azea of 180 feet by approximately 148 feet; .6 acre
o Low spot for natural drainage
o Park azea and detention area for storm water
^ Vegetated dry azea to retain storm water; not wet pond
• One-third of pazk area
o Green space key for neighbors
o Work with Urban Forestry and Engineering to determine azea with least impact
o Minor subdivision not required to offer green space
• If approved, would be platting lots 1-8 at Plan Commission level; 2.2 acres
• 13 total lots, 5 already platted and buildable
• Variances attempting to mirror Overlay standard of lots in general area:
o Minimum lot area from R-2 standard of 10,000 squaze feet to 6,500 squaze feet
o Minimum front yazd R-2 setback from 35 feet to 20 feet
o Minimum lot R-2 width from 80 feet to 50 feet
o Maximum lot R-2 coverage from 35% to 45%; typical of urban development
• Development within established neighborhood source of debate
o Residential land will be developed by someone because of proximity to core of Carmel '
o Lot density has support within the Zoning Ordinance
o R-2 standard is 3.9 units per acre for base density
o Proposed density is 3.7 units per acre
o Proposed C3 Comprehensive Plan labels Old Town density at 4 to 8 units per acre
• Concept elevations shown
o Comply with lot size and azchitecture requirements in Old Town Overlay
• R-2 standazds do not need to comply with architecture guidelines of Old Town
o Approximately 2000 squaze feet with 3 bedrooms and 2 baths; basement optional
o $350,000 to $400,000 sales price
o Reaz load garages off alley or driveway behind home
Jeff Langston, 5243 Woodfield Drive
• Have built lazge luxury custom homes
• Trying to bring something special to Old Town
Justin Moffett
• Chose Heartwood Custom Homes because of quality of homes
• Langston Development will be site developer
o Awazds for tree preservation
o Quality site development work
• C P Morgan subdivision on 151 Avenue NW developed in 1990's '
o Cul-de-sac of approximately 15 vinyl-sided range homes
o Allowed by R-2 standards
• Will work to meet chazacteristics of neighborhood
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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
Apri127, 2009
Favorable:
Joshua Kirsch, 220 2nd Avenue NE
• Main concern with maximum density
o Resolved by detention pond and flow into City system
• No cleaz standazds for neighborhoods
• Support tasteful development with respect to neighborhood
Sally VanOvermeiren, 135 Audubon Drive
• No problems with aesthetics
• Concern about development of Sylvan Lane into 2"d Avenue NE
• Traffic horrendous due to the high school
o Rectified with Ninth Grade building
• Alleyways intersecting into Sd' Avenue; could be hazazd
• Area does not want to become subdivision
o Insulated from Audubon and Sylvan side which has greater acreage
• Otherwise acceptable idea
Remonstrance:
Brian Borlik, 145 Audubon Drive (PowerPoint did not work)
Laura Corry, 340 2"d Avenue NE helped with overhead presentation
• Old Town azeas do not have Homeowners Associations
' o Area has organized neighborhood group; Friends of Old Town
• Petition signed by over 100 residents; many in attendance
o All abutting and contiguous owners signed; except Blackwell and Moffett
• Met over dozen times to discuss proposed development
o Some meetings included Mr. Moffett
• Many different home styles and lot sizes in Old Town
o Brick, wood and stone
o Lot sizes have varying setbacks from the streets
o Most homes are one or two-story, with no three-story
• Picture of Blackwell woods shown from 2"d Avenue view
• Not in opposition to property development
• Most trees will probably be lost in the development
• Numerous varieties of wildlife also on property
• Current R-2 zoning rules should be upheld and enforced
• Prefer minoring existing neighborhood or development in harmony
• High density is next to low density
o Blackwell Woods property provided transition
o Need transition of lot sizes to maintain look and flow
• Large lots aze wooded with historic homes
• Pictures of transition azea shown
• Proposed view shown
' o Three homes already built
• Higher density does not preserve green space
o Fir trees were not preserved as promised with construction of the previous three homes
o Very few trees left on properties
• Location and mature trees aze important for perspective buyers
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Cazmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
Apri127, 2009
• Concerned about exterior stairs
• Height of buildings not in keeping with transition neighborhood '
• Changing paint, flipping doors and windows does not keep houses from looking like "soldiers"
or "triplets" in a row
• Sub-chazacter appropriate for area
• Development too dense; more house on a smaller lot
o No room for trees between homes
o Satellite image of 8 homes in the woods; 3 homes on 2°d Avenue; 2 homes on 3rd Street
o Creates PUD; inappropriate subdivision not in keeping with neighborhood
• Only hardship is trying to create more homes to create more dollazs for developer
• Mr. Moffett not willing to compromise on 8 homes in the woods
o No room for buffer zones
o Four or five homes would have lazger lots; more appropriate
• Pazk should be called Blackwell Detention Basin
o High school detention basin is muddy pit with gravel and weeds
o All trees within 20 feet would be destroyed to create detention basin
o Area is lowest .57 acres; .22 acres (40%) for detention basin
o Serious drainage problems; 3 to 6 inches standing water after rains
o Trees already being removed and causing drainage issues
o Pumping station already overworked for azea
• City comes with pumping trucks
• Traffic big problem
o Parked cars on both sides of street ,
o Large vehicles cannot pass through
o High school events cause entire neighborhood to become parking lot
• Existing R-2 correct zoning for azea
• Correct to not be included in chazacter sub azea with higher density
• Need compromise for less homes with 80-foot lots
Jay Darman, 13506 Belford Court, Plan Commission member
• Friends in Friends of Carmel group
• No reason for variances
• Less than enthusiastic with other Moffett projects on the Monon and on Guilford
Public Hearing closed
Rebuttal:
Justin Moffett
Monon project not developed because of mazket conditions
Mr. Dorman voted in favor of Guilford project
Never met Mr. Borlik; no efforts for discussion
o He had attempted to meet with neighbors to share thoughts and ideas
o Has been mob mentality '
o Lives in neighborhood, but not invited to neighborhood meetings
o Asked to attend meeting to provide content and feedback; told he could not attend
o Mr. Kirsch called for details and facts which changed his opinion; rather than heazsay
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Carmel Board of Zoning Appeals
April 27, 2009
o Was invited to one meeting for presentation, but did not receive any reciprocation of
' dialogue for on-going dialogue to make situation better
o Remonstrators had one plan and wanted no further discussion
• Sylvan Lane and Audubon Drive not pazt of area
0 3rd Avenue has right-of-way stubbed into property as if it would continue
o Sylvan and Audubon not part of grid pattern for Old Town; meets and bounds
properties
• Minoring properties on 2°d Avenue NE
• Lots of petition signers have lot sizes similar to proposed development
o One home torn down on 51.9-foot lot; new home covers at least 45%
o Attitude of no development
• Never promised to save trees on 3 previously developed lots
• Exterior stairs to serve home office
o Home built and appraised at $374,000 two years ago.
o Sold in 4 days at $360,000
o Home values faz exceed current homes in Old Town azea
• Neighbors do not like the three new $350,000 homes with front-loading garages
o Following Old Town azchitecture for new project for scale to match the neighborhood
o Front-loading garages would not be allowed
• Low spot mentioned in presentation would need detention basin
o Department of Engineering will need to sign off on drainage plan
o Existing problems will not improve until detention basin is created
t • Sewer capacity
0 2007 new sewer lines installed by Carmel Utilities to serve the 3 new homes
o Capacity included for future development of the land
• Minor subdivision not required to have green space
o Many residents requested park space
• Proposal meets density allowed under Zoning Ordinance
o Could fit 10 lots with no park space; use easement for detention area
o Fee150-foot lots meet gird system in Old Town
0 50-foot lots aze standard in Old Town; 60-foot for corner lots
Department Report:
Christine Barton-Holmes
• Develop existing wooded area with 13 home sites on 5 pazcels
o Outside Old Town Overlay
o Platting process would require Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) review
• Engineering, drainage and utility issues would be reviewed
• Four variances to maintain existing R-2 zoning
• Lots would not be in Old Town Overlay; would conform to Overlay
• Heavily wooded with significant trees
o Work with Urban Forester for overall tree preservation
o And for individual trees on future home sites
' • Handouts provided by Department to show context guide for azea, photos of site and houses in
surrounding area
o Majority of houses aze one and one and one half stories with a few two-story houses
o Strongly urge petitioner to use architectural design requirements of Old Town Overlay
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Cazmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
Apri127, 2009
o Use existing house design and sizes for designing houses in this project
Platted as subdivision within Old Town grid layout
o Should be designed as part of the overall grid
o No significant fencing or signage
o Administrative approval process per Chapter 23D.04
• Context sensitive and continue neighborhood feel
Department recommended positive consideration subject to previous suggestions.
Discussion:
• Three homes on 3`d Avenue
o Front-load garages do not comply with Overlay
o Materials conform with standards of Overlay
o No market dissatisfaction
o Taste issue for neighborhood; out of the norm
o Buffer
• New architectural features alleviated neighbors' concerns
• Lot sizes compazed
o Mirror R-3 lot sizes along 2"d Avenue NE in the proposed extension of 3rd Avenue NE
• Allows for duplexes; commitment to not make duplexes
0 5~' Street NE lots aze 80 feet down to smaller sizes
o Norm for downtown Carmel lots aze 50 to 66 feet
• Buffer '
o Proposed alley
o Existing row of pine trees
o Offered to provide additional landscape buffering for lots 6 and 7
o Landscape buffer standards will be set at the Plan Commission meetings
0 20% greenspace in subdivision developments with 30% of that in detention pond area
o Here six-tenths of 2.2 acres will be park area; exceeding percentage expectations of
Zoning Ordinance
• Without any vaziances
o More creative for storm detention within lot easements
o Possible to build on lots 7 and 8; but not best design
o R-2 permits 3.9 units per acres as base density
o This development will be 3.7 units per acre; 10 lots on 2.7 acres
• Petition addressing C3 Plan (Comprehensive Plan)
o Did not want 8 units per acre
0 5 units per acre should be maximum for Old Town
o Second part of petition did not want any development of Blackwell Pazk azea
^ Not consistent with favoring 5 units per acre
• With variances
o Addresses need for green space
o Brings lots into conformance with general lot size of neighborhood
• Should be more discussion with neighborhood '
• Drainage issues need to be addressed
o Would park area become a detention pond?
o Weihe Engineers will complete civil plans
o High school project caused water problems
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Carmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
April 27, 2009
o Bonds posted; storm water system must work
' o Development of site will help address and handle storm water
• Cul-de-sac design will be determined at Plan Commission level
o No intent to connect to Sylvan
o "T" hammerhead endings aze discouraged
• Any R-3 lots on 2"d Avenue NE could have duplexes
o Those lots not included in these variances
o Pre-existing platted lots
o Commitment offered so as not to increase density
• Committed to Old Town Overlay standazds zone character
0 23D.03 Character sub-area
0 23D.04 Approval process for all pazcels
• Will work with Department of Engineering to development low-impact for alleys
o Not private alleys; public right-of--ways
o May be pervious pavement
• Waiting for soil report
o Alt-Witzig Engineering doing study
• Confirmed some soil hazd to develop
• Not federal jurisdiction
o No local or state statue would prohibit development in permitting process
o Useable ground because of small size
• C3 Plan recommends 8 units per acre; this would be a compromise
' Action: Board suggested the Petitioner get together with the neighborhood. They also wanted copy of
soil report to determine feasibility of building on parcels.
Motion:
On a motion made by Leo Dierckman and seconded by James Hawkins:
Docket Nos. 09030007 V through 09030010 V, Blackwell Park would be tabled until the next
meeting, May 18, 2009.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
I. Old Business
li. Community Health Pavilion - Signage
The applicant seeks the following development standards variance approvals:
Docket No. 09020007V 25.07.02-09 (b) Two signs facing East ROW
The site is located at 11911 N. Meridian St. It is zoned B-6/Business, within the US 31 Overlay Zone. Filed by
Don Miller of A Sign By Design.
Present for Petitioner:
Don Miller, A-Sign-By-Design
Kelly Woodburn, Community Health Pavilion
' • Last month received 2-2 tie vote
• Made some concessions
• New proposed signage reduced by 34.56 square feet
• Other sign facing right-of--way is ground sign at north end of property
• Two entrances to properly
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Cazmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
April 27, 2009
• Front two-story building makes it difficult to see Community Health Pavilion building
• Mature trees and parking lot also make it difficult to see ground sign from south entrance '
• Identification not visible from south drive/entrance
• New signage would be visible from south entrance
• Directional sign was changed to meet City Code; no variance needed
Kelly Woodburn, 14156 Avalon East Drive, Fishers, IN, manager Community Health Pavilion
• Patients and tenants notice lack of signage at south entrance
• North sign says Med Check which is a part of the building
• Most physician services aze at south entrance
• South entrance is marked "Penn Medical Plaza"; does not help Community Health Network
• New building blocks Community Health Pavilion building
• Additional signage at south entrance extremely helpful
Favorable:
Dr. Patricia Wesly, 1321 Helford Lane, tenant of building
• Frequently patients do not see building
o Non-descript building behind other taller buildings
o Numerous patients not from Carmel azea
o End up in roundabout at Old Meridian
• Entrance difficult to see when approaching from the south
Gary Erskine, 8357 Tequista Circle, Indianapolis, North Regional Practice Director for Community '
Physicians of Indiana
• Three practices in building
• Patients comment on difficulty in finding building
• Traffic has increased on Pennsylvania
Public Hearing closed
Department Report:
Rachel Boone
• Last month additional north wall sign for Med Check
o West Med Check sign to be removed
o South bound traffic would have ground sign and wall sign
• Third wall sign would be fourth lazge sign on site; two permitted
o May help northbound traffic
o Second opportunity at designated north entrance
• Newer building has signage at the south entrance; giving equal signage for both buildings
• Vaziances are for the ground sign and extra wall sign to both face east towazd Pennsylvania
• Department feels number of signs and squaze footage for this site aze growing excessively
o Newer building chose to split allowable squaze footage among four signs in addition to
ground sign '
o Department gave favorable recommendation for third sign
Department recommended negative consideration of this fourth sign
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Carmel Boazd of Zoning Appeals
April 27, 2009
Discussion:
• Location of new and old signs on site plan
o North elevation approved April meeting
o Proposed second sign facing east
o Ground sign
o Directional sign for additional parking; reduced size
o Directory signs on the facility
Physician/medical practices located in the building
o Two Community Physicians of Indiana internal medicine groups
o Meridian Orthopedics
o Diabetes and endocrinology group
o Med Check Urgent Caze
o Imaging center
o Sports medicine/physical therapy
o Pediatric group
o Allergy/asthma group
Motion:
On a motion made by Madeleine Torres and seconded by Kent Broach:
Docket No. 09020007 V, Community Health Pavilion - Signage be approved.
MOTION DENIED 2-3 (Dierckman, Hawkins, Plavchak negative votes)
2i. 646 Johuson Drive Appeal TABLED UNTIL MAY 18
The applicant seeks the following permit issuance appeal:
Docket No. 09020014 Appeal Appeal of Permit No. 09010003 Accessory Structure Size
The site is located at 646 Johnson Drive and is zoned Rl/Single-family residential
Filed by: Howazd & Holly Green; John & Beryl Colosimo; James & Laura Dunn; Judy Wagner; and Michael &
Susan Shaw, neighbors.
Action: Executive Session in approximately ten minutes in the Department of Community Services
Conference Room on the third floor.
Motion: On a mofion made by Leo Dierckman and seconded by Madeleine Torres:
The Meeting be adjourned.
The meeting adjourn/ed at 7:45 PM. ,~, `
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MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
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